I noticed this on FRF83 and it is still happening on FRF85B.
Basically I'll update/add/delete a contact on the web interface, and my phone will take literally hours before showing the change.
It is incredibly frustrating when I update a bunch of info and it doesn't update on my phone for hours.
I know on 2.1 it updated darn near instantaneously, and I am wondering why Froyo doesn't behave the same way?
What is your scheduled sync time?
Changes are supposed to be pushed instantly, are they not?
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OK I've had this issue for a little while since trying non-stock firmware but it seems really inconsistent. The issue seems to be network related but that's my basic diagnosis. The problem is that I seem to only get notifications if I wake the phone up to check manually.
The best example of this is using any Twitter application where I have it set to check every 15 minutes and it seems like half the time that works fine and notifications come through fine. The rest of the time, something that that happened not long ago too, I looked at my phone and nothing there. I opened Twitter app (I Tweet in this case), refreshed and messages from an hour or more ago popped up.
There's a similar issue I've had where notifications would be there but I wouldn't get the sound notification unless I wake the phone up where they'd be waiting for me. I put that down to using the Hero ROM though.
I thought it might be down to using the Hero ROM but now with Cyanogen's 3.8.9.1 the same thing happened. It's a big issue to me but I don't see anyone else having it. Any thoughts? The only thought I had on it is a data connection issue where nothing is pulled in regardless of settings unless I manually witness / do it. Halp
Damn, i thought i was the only one. I guess not, funny thing is im on JF V 1.51 ADP with HTC Hero theme V1.3.5. Same thing with me, sometimes the texts and other notifications come through fine...other times, i wont get nothing for hours and be like wtf, ill manually unlock my phone and as soon as i touch the button my phone starts vibratin, ringtones go off, a million pop ups and my phone goes nuts. I thought it was just me but i guess not, i wonder what this could be? Maybe its a specific something, lets see what we have in common...
Phone: Black T-Mobile G1
ROM: JF's ADP V1.51 Cupcake
Theme: HTC Hero V1.3.5
Text Messaging Apps: SMS Popup, ChompSMS
Facebook App: Bloo
Also, i have to re-do my email always after awhile because at first it will be fine and ill get the email notifications fine but then after a day or two it always stops working and i have to go through settings, into applications, then to email and delete cache/data. Go back into Email, re type my email, password and everything and then it just starts all over.
Little stupid ish like this is drivin me nuts.
Oh thank gawd.. at least we know that we're not going insane and imagining it! Unfortunately I don't see anything on the phone we have in common other than both ROMs being based on 1.51
Phone: Black T-Mobile G1 (UK)
ROM: Cyanogen 3.8.9.1
Theme: Running Open Home
Text Messaging Apps: None currently
Facebook: Spawn of the debil! Don't use it
I don't use e-mail other than GMail on my phone right now and that works fine as far as I can tell but I get so few e-mails I can't say for sure.
This is a known bug with Android, started before Cupcake. Reboot usually will fix it for a while, I usually reboot my phone once a week or so.
I'm crossposting this from the official N1 google forums in the hope that someone smarter than me knows an answer.
I installed the dev release of Froyo right when it was available and noticed immediately that my normal 48 hours of battery life had been reduced to ~ 5. Thinking it was just the development release I went back to Eclair and waited for the OTAs to happen. After FRF72 came out, I tried froyo again in conjunction with cyanogen's mod. I still had massive battery drain issues. I decided to wait more. After I heard that FRF91 would be final, I completely wiped the phone back to factory and let it OTA to FRF91. I then installed no mods, no kernels, used factory recovery, everything was factory (except the bootloader of course). I was STILL having massive battery issues. The phone essentially drains from full to 0 in less than 6 hours, and then when plugged in would take over 10 hours to charge to full.
I finally decided to try specifically removing features until I stopped having battery issues. I removed google apps, then all my contacts, then all features of the OS (animations etc) until my last step was stopping my push email from my work outlook server (this was hard for me as I use my phone all the time for work email).
As soon as I tried the phone without Exchange push the result was noticeable. I have even better battery life then I ever did with 2.1 and am now running Cyanogen 6.0 along with several other applications and maintaining excellent battery life. I am really torn though, as I need to have outlook access (and the calender sync is a much needed feature after coming from a blackberry). Am I doomed to run on Eclair forever?
What about sync frequency? Can you lower it?
Yeah that does suck though, I have two online IMAP mailboxes in K9 mail (and weather, google accounts, random other little stuff) and my idle battery usage is around 2%/hr.
I actually noticed this issue on 2.1 when I deleted an exchange account and got dramatically better battery life. I, too, had calendar sync enabled.
khaytsus said:
What about sync frequency? Can you lower it?
Yeah that does suck though, I have two online IMAP mailboxes in K9 mail (and weather, google accounts, random other little stuff) and my idle battery usage is around 2%/hr.
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I had it set to push, which you would think is the least battery intensive. I have tried longer frequencies, but too long defeats the purpose, and the other settings didn't make a difference as fat as I could see.
Hmm... strange. Exchange push for me isn't that bad, I get about 20-25 hours of battery.
It's the Exchange NOT on push (5, 10 minute interval check) that destroys it. Every once in a while exchange sync process would go into a CPU death-spiral, taking up 100% CPU ALL THE TIME, until I manually kill the process. Needless to say, battery is just destroyed like that.
So as for me, I'm stuck to have to use Push on Exchange =(
have push enabled on my exchange address for work and its still about the same ~20-24 hours.
This is a technical issue that has already been identified with Google.
We have three code tickets that relate to this. Mine was with the SSL certificates. The way that Froyo handles SSL on exchange with or without push can create an infinite loop. This loop keeps your CPU and 3G running constantly.
I have worked with Google to address these issues and they have added the item to the Future Release.
I promise you, this is an identified bug that has been fixed in the future releases.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9455
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This is a technical issue that has already been identified with Google.
We have three code tickets that relate to this. Mine was with the SSL certificates. The way that Froyo handles SSL on exchange with or without push can create an infinite loop. This loop keeps your CPU and 3G running constantly.
I have worked with Google to address these issues and they have added the item to the Future Release.
I promise you, this is an identified bug that has been fixed in the future releases.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9455
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Thats really good news, thanks. I spoke to a guy at google tech support and got a "huh what" kind of response.
since its an issue that will be fixed later...
have you tried setting up a task killer that will kill exchange every x amount of hours. since its the cpu death lopp that's draining the bat and exchange should restart itself, closing it every x hrs should give you somewhat of a useable phone...
I would create a second gmail account. Have your work email forwarded there, and then see if you can get your exchange calendar to sync to that secondary google account as well. Then just stick to the pushed gmail. I currently have two set up and its working fine, although I did not have to link the calendars.
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I would create a second gmail account. Have your work email forwarded there, and then see if you can get your exchange calendar to sync to that secondary google account as well. Then just stick to the pushed gmail. I currently have two set up and its working fine, although I did not have to link the calendars.
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For most companies that would be a huge security violation.
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For most companies that would be a huge security violation.
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Ok, I didn't see that mentioned. If that is your case, I would get a blackberry than. I need my work email. 6 hours of battery life does not cut it, I hope google fixes this soon. I have seen careers ruined by the iphone 3g.
I can confirm I have this issue as well. I hope Google fixes this quick as its a pretty serious flaw with an important feature.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9455
If you are rooted there is a libactivator.so you can push to your phone that fixes the issue.
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Looks like i solved the problem.
I removed and added my exchange account and now everything seems fine.
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Yesterday i updated my SGS yo Android 2.2 and after doing that the phone is so slow i can hardly use it.
My phone hasn't been problematically slow on 2.1, small lags here and there but over all performing good. Examples of the issues are the alarm app hanging and eventually crashing upon setting an alarm, LauncherPro crashing after unlocking.
When typing something in to Google or any other web page it takes forever for the keyboard to appear. Opening the email app also takes very long and sometimes crashes.
The crashing applies to all software that is slow, now and then it crashes. Before the update i hardly ever experienced crashing, now it happens 10 times + a day.
The phone is not rooted and i haven't done anything but use the official update through kies.
I'm running Juice Defender and Advanced Task Manager.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Anyone else find the official Twitter client slow to update ? Sometimes I just give up and switch it off, the iPhone on the other hand pulls updates instantly so I'm not sure what's going on here. The HD7 in general seems to have network issues in general
Ian
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Anyone else find the official Twitter client slow to update ? Sometimes I just give up and switch it off, the iPhone on the other hand pulls updates instantly so I'm not sure what's going on here. The HD7 in general seems to have network issues in general
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yea same with facebook..takes some time to update.. id like to try the focus on att.. tmo slow
I'm assuming both of these apps, as well as others, will release updates to improve their experiences...it has nothing to do with the network, as both apps are slow over wifi as well...they just aren't optimized yet...
its a general problem with most apps, and something i hope they fix very very soon. The fact that the apps cant freeze there state when you leave (i.e mobile 'multitasking') it makes them almost useless. If you exit to answer a text for example, you're forced to wait a minute or 2 to reload the entire app.
Updates will trickle down eventually, remember the OS is less than a month old. *Officially
Whats it like on WIFI? i was getting annoyed at mine being a bit slow and gave up on the facebook app and since then I change networks from O2 to Three (didnt realise just how **** O2s reception was till I moved to three!) and they are nice and quick at updating now.
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its a general problem with most apps, and something i hope they fix very very soon. The fact that the apps cant freeze there state when you leave (i.e mobile 'multitasking') it makes them almost useless. If you exit to answer a text for example, you're forced to wait a minute or 2 to reload the entire app.
Updates will trickle down eventually, remember the OS is less than a month old. *Officially
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not quite true. You could press the windows key from within the twitter app. Start the messaging app and do what you need to do. When done hit the back key until you are back in twitter with the state restored. Its not that fast and not really intuitive but its there.
please forgive me if this has been asked before. i have seen a few posts and been searching for 24 hours but cant get a definitive up to date answer so here goes.
i have just purchased my first windows phone the hd7 to see if its worth spending on a more expensive one.
i hacked the phone and installed HD7 ROM: Windows Phone 7.8 Deepshining v8.1 (build 8862.144) on it.
for some reason i dont get ANY notifications at all on anything except for email. this includes
1. facebook
2. me live tile
3. zune player now playing.
there is probably more but i dont know as its still new. now i need facebook pushes more than anything as i do a lot of buying / selling / trading on facebook and need to be informed the minute someone posts. i dont care if its in the facbook app or the me live tile, anything would be ok. setting up email notifications isnt an option as its a business email and need to keep it clean of facebook crap and need to know the difference between an email and a facebook update.i noticed that the HD7 ROM: Windows Phone 7.8 Deepshining v8.1 (build 8862.144) says it fixes the live tile bug. was this bug the bug i am mentioning now?
so any advice would be welcome on how to get it set up. i have linked my facebook account to my live account and tried installing / uninstalling facebook with a reboot inbetween and also tuned pushes off then on again with a reboot inbetween. i havent done a hard reset as it took me ages to add photos to my 200+ contacts and dont want to restart doing all that again.
*edit* bit the bullet and did a hard reset and still the same..lost all my contacts as well even though i backed them up to windows live account.
*edit2* just found out searching that hd7 defaults to using 3g instead of wifi for most things, i dont have a data package on my phone and rely on wifi as i have it here and at work. could this be the problem?
i am starting to think its something simple but then again its very annoying. i have bought an all singing all dancing windows phone that is advertised as being able to personalise and recieve notifications from various sources keeping me up to date and connected. where as in this state i have a phone that can make calls and look pretty..
please somebody help me. even if its not for facebook push notifications just a live me tile would do.
*edit3 just flashed dynamics 2.0 rom and still same..no push notifications at all.
and to make matters worse i thought i would set up email notifications from facebook as a quick dirty fix. i sent myself an email which took 10 mins to arrive. so attempted it again from gmail and its been 20 mins so far and still hasnt arrived. i have noticed that the wireless icon only comes on when i click a live tile..could that be a problem or is there a way of keeping wifi on at all times while the phone is awake
think i may just sell the phone lol..this has put me off a windows phone for good. how can ANY phone take that long to recieve an email lol..not acceptable on an old nokia brick from 2000 never mind a £100+ top of the range windows phone..absolutely disgraceful
*edit4* found the setting for time frame for email. it was set to check every hour. settings ranged from 1 hour to 15 mins to instant. after setting to straight away emails got sent instantly from live, although for some strange reason gmail can only be set to 15 mins as its lowest setting.
Hello. Apologies. Windows Phone has gone through quite some changes and fixes keep coming. We have support till next year. HD7 is a wonderful device. I have a new on too. I have the same issues on whatsapp notifications that don't show up but it might be some minor flaws that they will fix in the next updates. MS is aware. HD7 and HD2 will be good for testing updated software as "it entry level" specs prove to be powerful enough to update OS. Keep hanging on to it.
Thanks.