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Difference between CM / BB / Saphire

Please help...
I am about to take the plunge into rooting my Droid. I was hoping someone could offer up some advice.
I really just want a rooted stock 2.2. I dont really want to overclock past 800 Mhz. Of the most popular ROMs, which one will get me closest to what I want. I want one that doesnt have too much overhead...really just the stock 2.2 w/ wifi tether.
Also, of the most popular ROMs, what is the main differences between them. I am not referring to the aesthetics...I am more referring to the underlying code (source code???). I mean were these ROMs built from one source code and severely altered or just altered enough to modify the UI and add a couple features here and there.
Thanks.

To binging, both cm and sapphire are from the frf91 build. Both have wifi tether but sapphire which out of all three seems to be the most stable. Its more customizable than all three, which cm and sapphire you can use adw launcher or stock launcher, I don't like adw my self, it's laggy. Bb though comes from frf84b build which is older and is not from source build, its from a leak or so I read in a forum. Don't take that wrong, before I had switched to sapphire bb had been my favorite, its pretty stable just takes a little more work to customize or theme. Which you said isn't a big deal to but just a little info. All have developer apps that come with the rom. To upgrade or tweak the rom. Just a little note though, for wifi tether, you might have to install a custom kernel for it to work. Some roms state its needed but not all. Just flash and try I guess and if it doesn't work try different kernel. As far as closest to stock you might want rom check bb frf84b virgin froyo rom. Not too sure of the spacifics but may be rooted with tether. The other main bb rom would be bb v0.4. Sapphire is at version 0.8.4 for froyo which I might add again is very nice. The other thing to consider would be installing a stock froyo theme after flashing the rom. I know 928droidblackglass has one whick works with most roms. As far as cm I only had flashed for a couple minutes and didn't like it. It runs display mainly off adw launcher, was very laggy but customizine was a plus. As far as wifi and kernel, if the tether doesn't work. Most devs have an 800 MHz lv kernel whick should work. Also most roms are already overclocked to 800 MHz just the wifi maybe little issue. Also with kernel I would always recommended make sure it is compatible with the rom, I had tried a lot on bb but only a few worked. Sapphire is a little more spacific to there kernels but the ones that do work, I've had no issues what so ever with. Also I recommend a lowvoltage kernel for battery life, it helps alot. If your looking for more stock roms it may take a little more searching, there out there but not as popular I believe. Try looking in alldroid.org, droidforums, Droid life and there are others but the ones I mentioned are a little more moto Droid active. Other than that that most I can tell without writing a book but hope it helps
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Thank u so much for the very robust reply...if u had to choose between cm and saphire...which one would u go with...
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Well I tried both and found I liked sapphire more as well as being more stable. Just follow the instructions closely and install the Google apps as well as market hack app made for rom. Have had no issues and overclocked to 1.2ghz which I was never able to do with bb. Cm lasted about 5 minutes on my phone and switched again. Your welcome, any time.
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There are also more people who are much more experience in this, they've tried more roms and might have a better opinion as well as more info. Alldroid and droidforums are much more active for Droid rom support and etc. You might get quicker responces. Xda doesn't have as much support for Droid. Just a little extra for ya.
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CM has more tweaks, bb is moRe stable, and faster. Another stable, pretty rom is jrummys. Lots of customizations. These all come with a very conservative 800mhz base kernel that is plenty fast and has great battery life. Rom manager pwnz for the newb flasher.
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Simple Rom is by far the best on my phone at 800mhz it's blazingly fast ... That being said, as soon as CM6 is ready for full release, I'm sure that will be the best out there. They're taking their time and getting everything perfect. The release candidate is not quite ready for prime time... but throw Simple Rom on... you'll be very happy.
I know it isn't one of the choices but it's worth adding in.
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thanks alot guys...really appreciate it...
is there a difference in LINPACK scores between ROM's or does it really only depend on the source code???
I might give Simple ROM a try...for right now I have Sapphire 0.7.0 and it seems extremely stable and pretty fast.
Thanks...

cnp112 said:
thanks alot guys...really appreciate it...
is there a difference in LINPACK scores between ROM's or does it really only depend on the source code???
I might give Simple ROM a try...for right now I have Sapphire 0.7.0 and it seems extremely stable and pretty fast.
Thanks...
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Sapphire 1.0 is even better.

Yeah, I flashed 1.0 when it came out previously on 0.8.4. 1.0 is great nice customization and overclocking is built into rom in the gem settings. I'd recommend tryinging after reading the only difference so far seen between the frg22 build and frg01b build is some language files pretty much the best you'll get right now is the frg01b considering that's the base for Droid 2.2 upgrade.
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You only need a 800 MHz kernel to tether.
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noob cannot Overclock Captivate

Ok I have searched and searched this site and found some threads on overclocking however what I see is different ways to do it which involve flashing a custom rom which I do not want to do now that I have Froyo. I have seen some things about frequency voltage file on the phone which I am not sure where it is located. Also there is some mention of SetCPU which some people say its good and others say no do not use it. I could not change the settings either on setCPU to make a difference. Is there 1 specific way to overclock the captivate for total n00b's like myself?

You will not be able to overclock it without a custom kernel. See the thread for my kernel in the development subforum, or the Cognition ROM if you decide you do want a custom ROM. Cognition also add some nice things, like the Mobile AP feature that AT&T removes from their ROMs.
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You will not be able to overclock it without a custom kernel. See the thread for my kernel in the development subforum, or the Cognition ROM if you decide you do want a custom ROM. Cognition also add some nice things, like the Mobile AP feature that AT&T removes from their ROMs.
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I'm so tired from sub-8 hour sleep nights...so, I admit, I'm being a bit lazy and this is prob a stupid question, but...using Cog 2.1.7, which has your most recent kernal, is device over-clocked by default, or do I have to mod the table (s) referred to in your posts?

I do have the Cognition 2.2 Beta. At this point though I think I am going to just not worry about it. Froyo actually made my phone faster than before so besides the fact that it would just be for status it does not seem worthwhile to me.

if you are running FroYo, then you cannot overclock at this time, as there has not been any kernel releases to support it yet.

Ug... I've run out of stuff to do since Froyo... lol Anyone come up with a celtic/tribal dialer skin?

do you think you're reqady to OC? doesnt seem like it.

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if you are running FroYo, then you cannot overclock at this time, as there has not been any kernel releases to support it yet.
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I've read a bunch of stuff about the lack of a cyanogenmod and oc kernels for the Captivate and I'd like to hear your opinion about why they aren't developing for that particular Galaxy S model when there seems to be tons of stuff for the Vibrant.

mtritsch said:
Ok I have searched and searched this site and found some threads on overclocking however what I see is different ways to do it which involve flashing a custom rom which I do not want to do now that I have Froyo. I have seen some things about frequency voltage file on the phone which I am not sure where it is located. Also there is some mention of SetCPU which some people say its good and others say no do not use it. I could not change the settings either on setCPU to make a difference. Is there 1 specific way to overclock the captivate for total n00b's like myself?
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I'm fairly noobish myself but I know we need a custom kernel to overclock and according to one of the replies to your post, there are no kernels for the Captivate yet. We'll just have to wait until the dev's get around to it but don't ask them when that will be, they don't like that. Maybe we should have gotten a Vibrant...

You can use unhelpfuls hernel or setiroNs. The seti kernel is overclocked by default. I really didnt notice any difference when overclocked. I would say its not needed much. But anyhow yes there are a few kernels for captivate that overclock. Sure they are really for I9000 but they do work for us.

LOL. i love it when people dredge up old threads. a month ago, we didnt have any oc/uv options for 2.2. now we have reoriented i9000 kernels that work beautifully.
to answer your question MoonPieDave, there is NO source released for the captivate 2.2 kernel AT THIS TIME. once source is released, you will see an onslaught of kernel options from the devs, but until then, we will have to live with reoriented kernels and hacks to get the most out of our systems.

Overclock Widget
There is an app called Coverlock Widget. Will it work on the Captivate?

Info about upgrading captivate to Froyo

Ok, so from my reading, I've gathered that there are different kernels which are configured differently for different purposes. I've also read that there are different ROMs.
From what I've read, Android build (eg Eclair or Froyo) is changed by installing ROMs, not kernels.
So, I want to upgrade to Froyo because its iptables are updated for Wifi Tethering. However, I actually like most of the Samsung setup as is, and would like to keep the home screen as is with the four softbuttons (Phone, Email, Browser, Applications) along the bottom and the same basic home layout. I can't seem to find a ROM that has that though. Most have Launcher Pro on them. Why so? Is there a real big advantage to this?
I know, this is a lot of reading lol, so thanks for bearing with me.
In short:
-Samsung's UI or Launcher UI
-What's closest to stock but with Froyo instead of Eclair
Those are my primary concerns lol
Thanks
Regards
Smith

Well, there is advantages to using alternative launchers. More customizable, cleaner, less intrusive. Closest froyo to stock is obviously JI6, which is the leak that started it all for us.
As for the default launcher, there is a customizable version of the TW launcher compliments of gtg465x, check it out here.

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Well, there is advantages to using alternative launchers. More customizable, cleaner, less intrusive. Closest froyo to stock is obviously JI6, which is the leak that started it all for us.
As for the default launcher, there is a customizable version of the TW launcher compliments of gtg465x, check it out here.
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Awesome, that link and quick response basically answered my entire, long paragraph haha thank you!
Regards, and happy new year!
Smith

Why dont you download Launcher Pro now and check it out, you can put whatever 4 buttons on the bottom as you wish, it works much better than touchwiz.
When you change to froyo it wont be the same as far as the factory homescreen so just try out launcher pro now and see if u could deal with the change

One last concern. I've seen a lot of issues with custom ROMs like the bottom lights for the buttons not working, GPS being messed up, etc. Are those a real concern?
Is there anyway to upgrade to froyo without flashing a custom ROM?

Negative. Froyo IS a form of rom. The method that worked best for me was to install the froyo leak through odin...and then pull the kernel out of DG'S cognition 2.3b8 and swap it into my phone using neldars sgs kernel flasher. the reason for the kernel swap was to incorporate the voodoo lagfix which is by far the most stable and effective program of its kind. Eliminates most system lag. Theres still a minor lag when going to home screen sometimes....(2 seconds) for all the apps to pop up....but it makes navigating the phone and launching apps a LOT faster. It also improves your quadrant (if you care) to 1500's...and your linpack (again if you care) to 14 mflops

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Negative. Froyo IS a form of rom. The method that worked best for me was to install the froyo leak through odin...and then pull the kernel out of DG'S cognition 2.3b8 and swap it into my phone using neldars sgs kernel flasher. the reason for the kernel swap was to incorporate the voodoo lagfix which is by far the most stable and effective program of its kind. Eliminates most system lag. Theres still a minor lag when going to home screen sometimes....(2 seconds) for all the apps to pop up....but it makes navigating the phone and launching apps a LOT faster. It also improves your quadrant (if you care) to 1500's...and your linpack (again if you care) to 14 mflops
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I don't know what quadrant or linpack means lol could you explain briefly?
Ok, I'll try a different kernel for speed, the one I have now is... meh at best lol.
Regards
Smith

quadrant and linpack are benchmark tests obtained from the market that guage device speed/efficiency. Stock speeds on eclair are 800 ish quadrant and 8ish mflops.....froyo is a big boost....but beware....installing froyo has one known issue....bluetooth is comprimised.....although i havent tried it after the kernel swap

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quadrant and linpack are benchmark tests obtained from the market that guage device speed/efficiency. Stock speeds on eclair are 800 ish quadrant and 8ish mflops.....froyo is a big boost....but beware....installing froyo has one known issue....bluetooth is comprimised.....although i havent tried it after the kernel swap
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Great thanks, that's good info!
Alright, that's fine. I don't use bluetooth a whole lot. I'm still messin around with ROMs right now, I don't even have one I'm in love with yet lol. But hell, coming from WinMo, I love ALL of these comparatively haha

I've been using froyo ROMs on my phone (cognition and axura) for the past few months have had zero problems with Bluetooth.
Transferring files works as does streaming audio and headset functionality and headset controls.
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cognition and axura are custom builds with modifications....bluetooth is "fixed" on those.....I was talking about the leaked rom itself that came out in early october. Bluetooth on that is a disaster

Debating on overclocking my phone

I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.

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I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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TBHIMO , i wouldn't overclock because it's fast enough even at 800Mhz (what i'm running at) . i like having a longer lasting phone .
BUT if you are not content with 1Ghz , then i think you should flash a kernel with Xan's Undervolting App compatible and overclock so you can undervolt at higher clock speeds .
not too sure what the temps would be when overclocked since i never OCd my phone . OCing decreases the battery life of the processor FYI .

Okay thanks for your opinion. Like you I also don't want to decrease my phones lifespan. But I have also read people saying if your phones temp stays normal that it does not harm your phone anyway at all. Looking to get a few more opinions.

I tried it and couldn't be patient enough to get it stable even at 1200MHz, so I left it as is. It's quite fast already, but needed to try it out to make sure I wasn't missing out. To be honest I was more interested in UVing the phone to increase my already good battery life on Serendipity.
Most if not all Captivates can do 1200Mhz at stock voltages. This will however raise your temps just a bit, hence the reason to UV.
If I were you just try it at 1200 and see where that gets you. If you can get that going, you can always write down your settings and push it a bit further. Here's the oft-circulated guide to OCing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then be happy knowing your phone is plenty fast already

Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.

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Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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umm, you aren't running stock right? You have to be running a kernel that supports oc/uv

Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol

shaolin95 said:
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.

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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.

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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.

Well, my cappy is 2 weeks old, I'm running Serendipity and LOVING it. Do a lot of reading b4 doing any rom's. It's not that simple. I suggest titanium back up, from the market, as well as rom manager. Back up ur apps. I just flashed paragons kernel, search this site for it. It had 3 or 4 versions of it from stock to oc'd to 1400. I started with a 1280 oc and now running 1360? Approx. I am blazing fast and no problems at all. If you have a custom rom oc'ing shouldn't be an issue, just read, read, read. Good luck.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.

you dont need to overclock unless you do heavy processing, such as running 3d games and emulators. i only overclock when gaming and throw it back down to 1000mhz under normal conditions.

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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
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And aside from being a little complicated, CM7 isn't in it final release yet so it will be buggy, which if you are new to Android isn't a good ROM to start with. Check out the Android Development section. The top ROMs (based on visits to their Topics, but not in Order) are Serendipity, Cognition, Firefly, Phoenix, Darky's......there are more but that is off the top of my head.

Darkys is a little complicated for a beginner. Don't forget Continuum. Cezar just released v4.
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly

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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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+1 on trying cognition. If you like the stock look and feel it's a good place to start. I personally dont see much of a difference when I have my phone overclocked to 1500. Maybe thats just me though.
Im running serendipity 6.3 now and I think my phone is very fast. I had an inspire and an atrix and to be honest my captivate is almost if not as fast as they were.
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
Google "xda captivate won't boot", gotta put some effort in man!
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Thanks for all the replies. My buddy has done some flashing before and we are gonna do this process together so I don't mess anything up. We are going with cognition 4.3, looks to be most stable and has the no lag fix and some other cool stuff. The videos that we will be following is for a older cognition, version 4 I believe, the process should still be the same right? Also the videos was published by mobiletechreviews, I believe that he is part of the xda community. So this is what I'm leaning on doing tomorrow when my buddy comes over, but if someone mentions something better we'd definitely like to hear about it. The person that said they prefer wirefly or I think that's what he called it, can you tell me why you like that better? Thanks for the help so far.

[Q] Captivate Custom ROM Noob!!

Hi,
I have a few questions about Custom ROMs:
1. I have a basic idea about custom ROMs, but what why are there different Kernels for the same hardware? And is one better than the other? What makes a certain Kernel, better? As I understand with custom ROMs, you don't really have a choice in choosing the kernel you run, because each ROM is built on a specific kernel - am I correct about this?
2. I am looking to put a gingerbread 2.3 ROM on my Samsung Captivate, and I am looking for a ROM which is minimalistic Android and doesn't come with, shall we say 'bloatware' - for the lack of a better word. Of course, I would be looking for something stable and optimized for performance. Any recommendations?
Thanks.

1) Different kernals do offer different features. But they are swapable. That is why the kernals are available in seperate threads in the dev section. The biggest feature that is kernal dependent is overclocking. I have never been a fan of overclocking, don't think its needed on this phone. I also have never had good luck flashing different kernals. Whenever I have tried that the ROM runs buggy, freezes, lots of FCs. While you can change the kernal at any time, I have always found best performance with the kenal the dev chose to include with their ROM. I'm sure there are a hundred people here that would disagree with that. Just like ROM choice it's a personal decision.
2)ALL the ROMs here 2.2 or 2.3 will be de-bloated. I have tried all the 2.3 ROMs, and the only thing that is consistent with them is their unstableness. I can't get more than 2 hours of use without a freeze that needs a reboot, or it rebooting on it's own. The only reason I a sticking with a 2.3 ROM is Netflix. The app works on the 2.3 ROMs, but I cannot get it to work on 2.2. If you want something stable and optimized for performance: stay on FroYo. I recommend FireFly. If you want to take the plunge to 2.3 (after you have read EVERY GB sticky twice, paying attention to the bootloader info, or you'll have an expensive paperweight) I recommend GR, Perception II, or Mosaic. Mosaic was the most stable for me, but runs the same touchwiz as froyo, so it just feels like buggy froyo. The other two run touchwiz 4 from the SGS II.

[email protected] said:
Hi,
I have a few questions about Custom ROMs:
1. I have a basic idea about custom ROMs, but what why are there different Kernels for the same hardware? And is one better than the other? What makes a certain Kernel, better? As I understand with custom ROMs, you don't really have a choice in choosing the kernel you run, because each ROM is built on a specific kernel - am I correct about this?
2. I am looking to put a gingerbread 2.3 ROM on my Samsung Captivate, and I am looking for a ROM which is minimalistic Android and doesn't come with, shall we say 'bloatware' - for the lack of a better word. Of course, I would be looking for something stable and optimized for performance. Any recommendations?
Thanks.
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I have to respectfully disagree with quarlow. He is right about the the kernel swapping, and whatever kernel that comes with the ROM is gonna work and work well. The thing that distinguishes different kernels from one another is again the ability to OC and there is also BLN features and UV capabilities, so it is all user preference. HOWEVER it is the same as flashing a ROM. I have NEVER had an issue or seen a ROM get freezes or FC's because of flashing a different kernel. Not unless your are OC'ing. But it could just be my luck too (with the exception of the trident kernel which came OC'd to 1.4ghz, which was silly because if your phone can't handle that, it won't boot.. luckily mine can)
As far as the 2.3 ROMs go, again I have to disagree. I have been running CM7 for weeks without a single issue. As a matter of fact it keeps getting better. I'm not gonna talk up CM7 but I will say if that other user cannot get more than 2 hours without a freeze or having to reboot, then he is doing something wrong. I have tried Perception (beta2), and C5 RC3.. both are nice. Especially if you want a samsung ROM with all the features you are used to. CM7 is completely different built from AOSP. IMO, they are all really stable to use on a daily basis. Again, if my phone was freezing or needing a reboot every couple hours i would NOT be telling you they are stable.
All the 2.2 ROMs are sweet.. all user preference. Like the quarlow said, make sure you read the OP and re-read the instructions. Bootloaders are something you don't want to F up But, CM7 just got easier, and you don't have to flash any i9000 bootloaders.
Just my 2cents
...no offense quarlow

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...no offense quarlow
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I take no offense, that's why I said there are probably a hundred people that will disagree with me ... the kernel game is not a game I enjoy. I have never had trouble until I had a ROM with OC enabled, and got the sleeping death, flashed a different kernel, and got freezes, general buggyness, and FCs. I ended up downgrading to the older non-oc version to avoid the sleep death, and had no problems. I have only flashed a kernel a few times before that, and because of that experience none since. Maybe my experience was a fluke ...
I have never tried CM7 because the last time I looked at the installation instructions I didn't feel I understood them well enough ... because of how different it was to the FroYo ROMs of the time (Recovery then install ... 2 steps). Looking at it now, it's not nearly as unusual after all the i9000 GB ROMs. I really have had bad stability with the i9000 GB ROMs. Not that it freezes every two hours, but after two hours of constant use it freezes, and needs a reboot, or every once in a while while listening to music the music stops and I look at my phone to see it have rebooted for no reason. All of the i9000 GB ROMs I have tried did this (some worse than others): Perception, Continuum, GR, Mosaic, Symply, subpression, etc. I've gone back to Stock eclair with a Master Clear, wiped the various caches, nothing I do seems to fix this. I have attributed it to the Beta tag that is still attached to most of the ROMs. Maybe this weekend I'll give CM7 a try.

quarlow said:
I take no offense, that's why I said there are probably a hundred people that will disagree with me ... the kernel game is not a game I enjoy. I have never had trouble until I had a ROM with OC enabled, and got the sleeping death, flashed a different kernel, and got freezes, general buggyness, and FCs. I ended up downgrading to the older non-oc version to avoid the sleep death, and had no problems. I have only flashed a kernel a few times before that, and because of that experience none since. Maybe my experience was a fluke ...
I have never tried CM7 because the last time I looked at the installation instructions I didn't feel I understood them well enough ... because of how different it was to the FroYo ROMs of the time (Recovery then install ... 2 steps). Looking at it now, it's not nearly as unusual after all the i9000 GB ROMs. I really have had bad stability with the i9000 GB ROMs. Not that it freezes every two hours, but after two hours of constant use it freezes. All of the i9000 GB ROMs I have tried did this: Perception, Continuum, GR, Mosaic, Symply, subpression, etc. I've gone back to Stock eclair with a Master Clear, wiped the various caches, nothing I do seems to fix this. I have attributed it to the Beta tag that is still attached to most of the ROMs. Maybe this weekend I'll give CM7 a try.
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Yeah, i guess now that i look back on C5, there was some lagginess to it- but having the samsung cameras back were a bonus CM7's install is now done from froyo ROMs.. Much easier than the Odin stuff before. Don't even need a computer now

Quarlow ... I think you got a lemon..
If everything was as buggy as you make it out to be I don't think the captivate would have as much dev support as it does. Or as many flashers, If all of us are running fine on our phones and you are the only one with these huge issues that I've never even heard of (force closing from swapping out a kernel) maybe your phone has got a less than adequate component in there, inconsistent builds are a very real thing and looks like yours sucks...

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Quarlow ... I think you got a lemon..
If everything was as buggy as you make it out to be I don't think the captivate would have as much dev support as it does. Or as many flashers, If all of us are running fine on our phones and you are the only one with these huge issues that I've never even heard of (force closing from swapping out a kernel) maybe your phone has got a less than adequate component in there, inconsistent builds are a very real thing and looks like yours sucks...
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How do I fix that? Go to att with "Bad GPS"? My GPS has been fine. I have a build 1006, had this on hold for me the day they released. Never had shutdown issue except that OC kernel I tried. My warranty is going to be up in a month, think I should try to swap before that runs out?
Sent from my Captivate running GR-12

I'd say so ... I have never had the issues you have. I have run every rom with every kernel, never once caused a force close and all the gb roms I've been on have been pretty stable 2 days without even charging let alone reboot.
Does your phone actually have ****ty gps cause if you use that excuse you're gonna have to prove it ... if however your phone for some "strange reason" doesn't boot at all you could use the "i was using kies and it never came on" excuse....
But if you have bad gps while on stock that should be enough to swap it out.

My GPS has always been fine. Longer time to get a lock than my iPhone before, but with 15 seconds it always gets a lock. Would I be better to go with random shutdown?
Sent from my Captivate running GR-12