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Lots of ROMs, not so much info

So, I have been using roms for some time now and I see new ones coming out in plethora.
Which are built on the official sprint release of 2.1??
Which ones enable over clocking? I see a few that say that they are OC'd, but the others just do not mention it, is it safe to presume that if it does not say that it is OC'd then it is not?
I love damage control, having a few issues with fresh toast, but I don't believe that I can go back from an overclocked rom, the speed differences are one of the main reasons I went OC'd in the first place.
What is your favorite ROM and why?

enfurno said:
I love damage control, having a few issues with fresh toast, but I don't believe that I can go back from an overclocked rom, the speed differences are one of the main reasons I went OC'd in the first place.
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You can flash an OC'd kernel on top of DamageControl, you know.

I'm using DamageControl OC'd. Quick, Sense UI, and works with almost no issues (except random, non-reproducible ones)

I've run most of the ones here. Usually if they are already OC'd then it will say in the OP. If not, you can flash the OC'd kernel over the ROM. For instance I flashed REGAWMOD ROM and really liked it. So I then flashed the honeybun kernel over it and saw a significant increase in speed.
My daily ROM is Aloysius 2.1. I downloaded the non-OC version and then used OC widget and the OC kernel to dial it up to my specs (730). I think it is the best of both worlds. The OC version is already scaled up at 710 so you wouldn't really need an OC app unless you want to go higher (my hero freezes anything higher than 730).

derekwilkinson said:
I'm using DamageControl OC'd. Quick, Sense UI, and works with almost no issues (except random, non-reproducible ones)
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Which OC'd kernel are you using? I see that there are issues with almost all of them. Either certain features don't work, like receiving phonecalls, or you have to deal with latency when coming out of sleep mode.

the oc kernel pretty much has no isssues now. You're seeing some old info. If you use a recently updated rom (last month or two), you're probably not going to have any consistent issues. Maybe once in a while, but I have less issues on zen slide and darch droid than I did on stock.

I belive this is the kernel with the least amount of issues right now, as it was made specifically to address most old issues.
DarchKernel aka DarchHoney aka "toast's OC Kernel" (though I don't know why people call it that, there is another kernel like OC Kernel Godm0de or something with the same name, and with the problems the one below addresses) i don't know why people give so many names. it's confusing. everyone should just call it DarchKernel, as it is called in the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074

c00ller said:
I belive this is the kernel with the least amount of issues right now, as it was made specifically to address most old issues.
DarchKernel aka DarchHoney aka "toast's OC Kernel" (though I don't know why people call it that, there is another kernel like OC Kernel Godm0de or something with the same name, and with the problems the one below addresses) i don't know why people give so many names. it's confusing. everyone should just call it DarchKernel, as it is called in the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
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Lmao darchkernal is its name but there r two versions.
One for the damage/fresh roms...darchshiz
And one for honeybun roms by ghbil and beezy420. Darchhoney
Some roms run better off the darchhoney rather than darchshiz and vice versa. Very minor differences but still they r different.

And to add to this: Both Darkshizz and Darchhoney run the .34 kernel. Toast has one as well (ToastKernel) that runs .29 kernel. Both overclocks.
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Lmao darchkernal is its name but there r two versions.
One for the damage/fresh roms...darchshiz
And one for honeybun roms by ghbil and beezy420. Darchhoney
Some roms run better off the darchhoney rather than darchshiz and vice versa. Very minor differences but still they r different.
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[Q] Speed mod is SLOWER?

Hello everyone, I have a Captivate flashed with a darkytt3r v8.1 ROM. I ran a quadrant standard benchmark and got a pretty good 1105 Mhz. Then I realized I hadn't even flashed speedmod-kernel-i897-k12o-500hz-CWM. After I flashed it from the SGS kernal flasher and then i did another benchmark and got 1018. Did that ROM come with a better speed mod that I overwrote with this one? Can anybody suggest a good speed mod to put on my phone? I like to have my phone push the boundary's of going so fast it combusts so the faster the bester

Am I seeing double?

As long as you try to fix it you can see whatever you want haha

Stop using quadrant!!!
Use whatever kernel feels fastest.
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I am sure that soon there are going to be anti-quadrant lynchmobs comprised of more than half the people in the SGS forums.
Dupont, the succinct fact of the matter is that quadrant means nothing.
As far as I know (and am concerned), Linpack is the only somewhat worthwhile benchmarking utility, second only to simply how the UI feels in your hands.
Also, before we jump to conclusions, do you enable any lagfixes?
Beyond what I've already stated, it doesn't take all that much to quickly look over the 5 or so worthwhile kernels in the development section and make an educated decision on your own.

I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any

Dupontrocks11 said:
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
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That quadrant disparity you might be experiencing might be due to darky 8.1 having a preinstalled, enabled by default lagfix that disappeared when you installed the speedmod kernel.
I don't mean to be a tough-love welcome party (by the way, welcome to the android community), but I know I did a lot of reading about, messing with, and messing up my phone before I even joined the captivate forums.
Do yourself a favor and read some of the dev stickies about ROMs, kernels, and modems just to get a bit better of an idea of their basic purpose/function, then look through the rest of the dev threads for kernels that might be what you're looking for, but (more importantly) would be compatible with your ROM.
It seems like a PITA, but knowing more about how your phone works will benefit you a great deal in the long run. Put in the time, reading, and careful experimenting right now, and you'll be flashing ROMs like a pro in no time.

Speedmod is also just the name of a Kernel. It is not a type of thing that goes on your phone. If you want the fastest speed, use an overclocked Kernel. I have used them in the past, but have always came back to Speedmod because it gets updated so regularly and also has the Voodoo Sound fix.

Thanks guys. I have no problem flashing roms as I watched many video on how to and read many articles on it. Also it might help that my father is senior member of this site with more than 10000 posts . I'll search through and see if I can't learn more about it.
Thanks again, Richard
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Requesting a Voltage Control App

Hey all,
I am new to the fascinate (but coming from Captivate) and I was curious if any of our Devs could make a simple app that could allow us to customize how we undervolt our overclocked kernals. There is one that I have for my captivate but support for it was dissolved when the dev who created it decided to only focus on specific i9000 kernals, and unfortunately the version that still works on my captivate will not install on the fascinate. The newest version will however install, but it requires one of the supported i9000 kernals
Does anyone have the know-how to develop an app for this purpose? I found that when undervolting my over-clocked kernals to my phone's ability I could maximize battery life as well as the internal heat, while still having the phone in beast mode with OC's around 1.3ghz.

Can you link the source for it? I personally can't dev, but it may interest some devs.

I've seen it for the GSM kernels, but I don't know if it would work for our phones as the way the CPU frequency and power management is setup is entirely different from the GSM models. I agree that it was a great idea, but it looked to be over my head on how it was done.

RacerXFD said:
Can you link the source for it? I personally can't dev, but it may interest some devs.
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Sorry I know how to flash roms, kernals, etc. but no clue how to do anything else
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Can you link the original thread?

There wasn't one, it was included in a few roms until he decided to partner with a certain dev to only support specific kernals. I have a several of the different versions including the older one that still works for all of the captivate kernals, I could post the apk if that would help. Would that be wrong to post his work though?
Nevermind, found this, hope it helps!
http://code.google.com/p/voltage-control/
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when i stumbled across this when forum browsing, i brought it up to adryn...i think he and jt talked it over or something....i dont remember what came of it, other than it couldnt work with our kernels as is...either it would take .32 or they d have to build the kernels different or something...i dont recall

nitsuj17 said:
when i stumbled across this when forum browsing, i brought it up to adryn...i think he and jt talked it over or something....i dont remember what came of it, other than it couldnt work with our kernels as is...either it would take .32 or they d have to build the kernels different or something...i dont recall
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Probably due to VZW_AUTH stuff.

Debating on overclocking my phone

I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.

jamezz23 said:
I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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TBHIMO , i wouldn't overclock because it's fast enough even at 800Mhz (what i'm running at) . i like having a longer lasting phone .
BUT if you are not content with 1Ghz , then i think you should flash a kernel with Xan's Undervolting App compatible and overclock so you can undervolt at higher clock speeds .
not too sure what the temps would be when overclocked since i never OCd my phone . OCing decreases the battery life of the processor FYI .

Okay thanks for your opinion. Like you I also don't want to decrease my phones lifespan. But I have also read people saying if your phones temp stays normal that it does not harm your phone anyway at all. Looking to get a few more opinions.

I tried it and couldn't be patient enough to get it stable even at 1200MHz, so I left it as is. It's quite fast already, but needed to try it out to make sure I wasn't missing out. To be honest I was more interested in UVing the phone to increase my already good battery life on Serendipity.
Most if not all Captivates can do 1200Mhz at stock voltages. This will however raise your temps just a bit, hence the reason to UV.
If I were you just try it at 1200 and see where that gets you. If you can get that going, you can always write down your settings and push it a bit further. Here's the oft-circulated guide to OCing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then be happy knowing your phone is plenty fast already

Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.

jamezz23 said:
Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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umm, you aren't running stock right? You have to be running a kernel that supports oc/uv

Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol

shaolin95 said:
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.

jamezz23 said:
Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.

studacris said:
If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.

Well, my cappy is 2 weeks old, I'm running Serendipity and LOVING it. Do a lot of reading b4 doing any rom's. It's not that simple. I suggest titanium back up, from the market, as well as rom manager. Back up ur apps. I just flashed paragons kernel, search this site for it. It had 3 or 4 versions of it from stock to oc'd to 1400. I started with a 1280 oc and now running 1360? Approx. I am blazing fast and no problems at all. If you have a custom rom oc'ing shouldn't be an issue, just read, read, read. Good luck.
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jamezz23 said:
All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.

you dont need to overclock unless you do heavy processing, such as running 3d games and emulators. i only overclock when gaming and throw it back down to 1000mhz under normal conditions.

shaolin95 said:
Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
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And aside from being a little complicated, CM7 isn't in it final release yet so it will be buggy, which if you are new to Android isn't a good ROM to start with. Check out the Android Development section. The top ROMs (based on visits to their Topics, but not in Order) are Serendipity, Cognition, Firefly, Phoenix, Darky's......there are more but that is off the top of my head.

Darkys is a little complicated for a beginner. Don't forget Continuum. Cezar just released v4.
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly

studacris said:
I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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+1 on trying cognition. If you like the stock look and feel it's a good place to start. I personally dont see much of a difference when I have my phone overclocked to 1500. Maybe thats just me though.
Im running serendipity 6.3 now and I think my phone is very fast. I had an inspire and an atrix and to be honest my captivate is almost if not as fast as they were.
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
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zanywood said:
My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
Google "xda captivate won't boot", gotta put some effort in man!
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Thanks for all the replies. My buddy has done some flashing before and we are gonna do this process together so I don't mess anything up. We are going with cognition 4.3, looks to be most stable and has the no lag fix and some other cool stuff. The videos that we will be following is for a older cognition, version 4 I believe, the process should still be the same right? Also the videos was published by mobiletechreviews, I believe that he is part of the xda community. So this is what I'm leaning on doing tomorrow when my buddy comes over, but if someone mentions something better we'd definitely like to hear about it. The person that said they prefer wirefly or I think that's what he called it, can you tell me why you like that better? Thanks for the help so far.

[Q] Fastest Kernal

What is the fastes Samsung Captivate Kernal Out there

Oh, that's an easy one. It's the feature-packed "Search Button" Kernel. Guaranteed to give you lightning-fast results.
In all seriousness, there isn't a one-kernel-fits-all answer to this. A lot of it will depend on your device, your rom, whether you oc/uv, and a whole host of other factors. Your best bet is to find the ones that work for your device and give them a spin.

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Oh, that's an easy one. It's the feature-packed "Search Button" Kernel. Guaranteed to give you lightning-fast results.
In all seriousness, there isn't a one-kernel-fits-all answer to this. A lot of it will depend on your device, your rom, whether you oc/uv, and a whole host of other factors. Your best bet is to find the ones that work for your device and give them a spin.
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I'm on stock looking for the fastest kernal
And the captivate :|
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Because not all phones react the same way to new software, we can't really tell you what the fastest kernel will be for your phone.
Just find what what kernel will be compatible with your rom and try them to see what you consider to be the fastest.
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I'm on stock looking for the fastest kernal
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Captivate (main Phone) running Serendipity 7
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I'm a little confused because of the discrepancy in your post and your signature.
Which stock are you referring to? Eclair/Froyo/GB? True Samsung stock or a ROM that you haven't touched (e.g. freshly flashed untouched Serendipity 7)?
If you're on a true Samsung stock, your kernel options would be pretty limited. If you're on Serendipity 7, I would check around in that thread to see what other people are using and give that a try.

Dude, you've been here long enough to know that threads like this are pointless (and often swiftly closed). Too many variables between ROMs and loaded software and use for any comparison to be valid for anyone but the person doing it.