Database Develop

noob cannot Overclock Captivate

Ok I have searched and searched this site and found some threads on overclocking however what I see is different ways to do it which involve flashing a custom rom which I do not want to do now that I have Froyo. I have seen some things about frequency voltage file on the phone which I am not sure where it is located. Also there is some mention of SetCPU which some people say its good and others say no do not use it. I could not change the settings either on setCPU to make a difference. Is there 1 specific way to overclock the captivate for total n00b's like myself?

You will not be able to overclock it without a custom kernel. See the thread for my kernel in the development subforum, or the Cognition ROM if you decide you do want a custom ROM. Cognition also add some nice things, like the Mobile AP feature that AT&T removes from their ROMs.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Unhelpful said:
You will not be able to overclock it without a custom kernel. See the thread for my kernel in the development subforum, or the Cognition ROM if you decide you do want a custom ROM. Cognition also add some nice things, like the Mobile AP feature that AT&T removes from their ROMs.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm so tired from sub-8 hour sleep nights...so, I admit, I'm being a bit lazy and this is prob a stupid question, but...using Cog 2.1.7, which has your most recent kernal, is device over-clocked by default, or do I have to mod the table (s) referred to in your posts?

I do have the Cognition 2.2 Beta. At this point though I think I am going to just not worry about it. Froyo actually made my phone faster than before so besides the fact that it would just be for status it does not seem worthwhile to me.

if you are running FroYo, then you cannot overclock at this time, as there has not been any kernel releases to support it yet.

Ug... I've run out of stuff to do since Froyo... lol Anyone come up with a celtic/tribal dialer skin?

do you think you're reqady to OC? doesnt seem like it.

Pirateghost said:
if you are running FroYo, then you cannot overclock at this time, as there has not been any kernel releases to support it yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've read a bunch of stuff about the lack of a cyanogenmod and oc kernels for the Captivate and I'd like to hear your opinion about why they aren't developing for that particular Galaxy S model when there seems to be tons of stuff for the Vibrant.

mtritsch said:
Ok I have searched and searched this site and found some threads on overclocking however what I see is different ways to do it which involve flashing a custom rom which I do not want to do now that I have Froyo. I have seen some things about frequency voltage file on the phone which I am not sure where it is located. Also there is some mention of SetCPU which some people say its good and others say no do not use it. I could not change the settings either on setCPU to make a difference. Is there 1 specific way to overclock the captivate for total n00b's like myself?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm fairly noobish myself but I know we need a custom kernel to overclock and according to one of the replies to your post, there are no kernels for the Captivate yet. We'll just have to wait until the dev's get around to it but don't ask them when that will be, they don't like that. Maybe we should have gotten a Vibrant...

You can use unhelpfuls hernel or setiroNs. The seti kernel is overclocked by default. I really didnt notice any difference when overclocked. I would say its not needed much. But anyhow yes there are a few kernels for captivate that overclock. Sure they are really for I9000 but they do work for us.

LOL. i love it when people dredge up old threads. a month ago, we didnt have any oc/uv options for 2.2. now we have reoriented i9000 kernels that work beautifully.
to answer your question MoonPieDave, there is NO source released for the captivate 2.2 kernel AT THIS TIME. once source is released, you will see an onslaught of kernel options from the devs, but until then, we will have to live with reoriented kernels and hacks to get the most out of our systems.

Overclock Widget
There is an app called Coverlock Widget. Will it work on the Captivate?

ROM Manager and Devs

I know I am probably going to get some heat for posting a "Question" in the Devs section, but I did attempt to ask it in the Q&A section, but have not received any responses from any of the developers (not sure if they regular that section).
My question is why none of the Captivate developers utilize ROM manager as a place to download (and update) their custom ROMs? I know many of us have purchased the premium license, and wonder why you haven't utilized this feature? Is it more of a hassle? Is there costs involved that inhibit Devs from wanting to post there? I know EVO owners have a wide variety of ROMs on their device available for download right from manager.
Thanks in advance, and if this tread needs to be moved or deleted after, I won't be offended.
........and thank you Devs for your AWESOME Roms!

I, too, was disappointed after purchasing ROM Manager Premium that there were no ROMs available to download. I was under the impression that this would open up a load of ROMs for me to download and try out.

Personally, I think the purchase was well worth it considering how much I've used it. I did it to support the guy. I can find roms on my own.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

majinzen said:
Personally, I think the purchase was well worth it considering how much I've used it. I did it to support the guy. I can find roms on my own.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, I completely agree. I was just wondering why our devs haven't utilized it. Maybe it has to do with the file type system that the Galaxy S's use? I know it is probably safer using Odin to flash back to stock first, but maybe there was another reason? Or maybe that isn't even a reason?

Gr8Danes said:
Oh, I completely agree. I was just wondering why our devs haven't utilized it. Maybe it has to do with the file type system that the Galaxy S's use? I know it is probably safer using Odin to flash back to stock first, but maybe there was another reason? Or maybe that isn't even a reason?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not an expert but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that rom manager does not work with the captivate as it does with other devices such as the evo. For whatever reason when you simply try to flash a new rom, old remnants remain and you often experience problems especially when the new rom is based on a different build/kernel, etc. That is the reason everyone recommends flashing stock using odin first as it eliminates all remnants of the previous rom.
It is nice to be able to use the full functionality of rom manager on my evo but honestly I usually research here on xda first anyway.
I have yet to see a full explanation as to why we have the issue on the captivate and hopefully someone who understands the exact reason will take the time to explain.

It's related mainly to the Kernel and Modem I'm sure. The evo community doesn't use a kernel and modem file designed for an entirely different (albeit very similar) device; we do.

Rom manager needs to be more clear on how many ROMS will be available before purchase. The way it's worded makes it seem like you'll have roms to choose from regardless of your device.
I also upgraded to premium and spent time"trouble shooting" trying to figure out what was wrong.
I knew every popular rom wouldn't necessarily be listed but I certainly expected something.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I896 using XDA App

Well atleast u helped out the dev who created this recovery that makes flashing incredibly easier for all of us.
sent from my cappy running Di11igafs Rom 2.5 overclocked at 1280 with JK4 modem!!!

For sure. I just came to my SGS frim an htc legend and have gotten more than my moneys worth from them. It is a good app, for sure.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I896 using XDA App

Meant to quote just about everyone...
silverslotcar said:
Well atleast u helped out the dev who created this recovery that makes flashing incredibly easier for all of us.
sent from my cappy running Di11igafs Rom 2.5 overclocked at 1280 with JK4 modem!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not the point of the question. Incase it needs to be reiterated, what he wants to ask is: Developers. Why are your ROMs not available via Rom Manager directly?
If there is a reason why you don't use it, it would be nice of you could elaborate. Not everyone has money to throw at something that they don't see beneficial. (Paid vs unpaid.) Donations are nice, but they are donations for a reason. Any "Oh, but you should contribute to Rom Manager creaters anyway." chat is beside the point and not the focus of this thread, so please keep your opinion on purchasing donate versions out of the equation.

I cant say why but it is their chose as if they want to use it or not. Please dont open more then one thread on the same subject.
I deem this thread closed

next flash: Darky's or Insanity? Recommendations/endorsements?

have tried just about every custom out there with the exception of insanity and darkys roms.
Pondering both for my next flash....anyone have recommendations for which they prefer.
all comments welcome and encouraged but would doubly appreciate feedback from those who have used both.

Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?

Miami_Son said:
Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I apologize if i am in error. I didn't realize there was any problem asking for specific feedback or recommendations on a particular rom or roms.
According to the forum rules what is wrong with my post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#td_post_81
If i am in error please delete thread.

Just look through both Dev threads. That will give you lots of information on what people like about each one. And if you have flashed about everything under the sun flash both because chances are you will eventually.

I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.

I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.

Assonance all the way.
Sent using smoke signals.

Miami_Son said:
I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. I was asking for feedback most specifically from people who has used both roms. This wasn't a Whats the best rom ever thread.
2. The developer thread definitely would not have been a place to post this and in my extensive use of the forum and reading and re-reading of the rules i fail to see how this post violates them. So again if i am mistaken...my apologies to all and i beg on the mercy of a mod to just delete the thread. (i have read both threads for the two stated roms....was hoping to hook more direct compare and contrast from users who have played with both.

Connor1 said:
Assonance all the way.
Sent using smoke signals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol have used assonance so i was just looking for feedback and comparison between darkys and insanity.
flashed darkys earlier and its a pretty rom but don't think i am liking it any more than Doc's or Chronus so i may give Insanity a run before going back to chronos or doc's.

alphadog00 said:
I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey thanks for being one of the first to post feedback thats actually relevant =)
i had went with darkys and what you said is right on. I think i still prefer Chronus Rom and Doc's most recent so will probably flash back to one of them but may give insanity a quick trial before.

So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?

matt310 said:
So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
appreciate the link. had already trialed darkys...nice but i went back to chronus 2.0 for now.
funny i had just flashed it when i saw my other favorite rom (doc's) posted an update.

I'd go with the non-racist sounding one.

Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha

netnerd said:
Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I am partial to the breaded chicken sandwich with cheese and bacon. It is quite the treat, and you should only eat one per year to avoid heart conditions, lol.
On topic... I've been looking to start venturing into custom ROM's on my Cappy, but I am tempted to wait and see if Cyanogen ever devs their 6 or 7 for Captivate now that they are dev'ing for Nexus S...

I have used pretty much every ROM out there, even the ones that do not make it to the Captivate forum and so far Darkys is my usual go to ROM.
For some reason, when selecting the Gallery images, it is the only one that does not lag before going to the zoom in and out window.
I am not using Lag fixes btw with any 2.2.1 rom.

have had a chance to play with both....no more recommendations needed.

wow, 10 chars

magnumrt562 said:
If Obama is the answer, how stupid was the question?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best sig ever

I am on the dark Rom with the 2.2 no oc/uv death and its fantastic. One of the best battery i have had on a Rom.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

[Q] Speed mod is SLOWER?

Hello everyone, I have a Captivate flashed with a darkytt3r v8.1 ROM. I ran a quadrant standard benchmark and got a pretty good 1105 Mhz. Then I realized I hadn't even flashed speedmod-kernel-i897-k12o-500hz-CWM. After I flashed it from the SGS kernal flasher and then i did another benchmark and got 1018. Did that ROM come with a better speed mod that I overwrote with this one? Can anybody suggest a good speed mod to put on my phone? I like to have my phone push the boundary's of going so fast it combusts so the faster the bester

Am I seeing double?

As long as you try to fix it you can see whatever you want haha

Stop using quadrant!!!
Use whatever kernel feels fastest.
Sent from my phone

I am sure that soon there are going to be anti-quadrant lynchmobs comprised of more than half the people in the SGS forums.
Dupont, the succinct fact of the matter is that quadrant means nothing.
As far as I know (and am concerned), Linpack is the only somewhat worthwhile benchmarking utility, second only to simply how the UI feels in your hands.
Also, before we jump to conclusions, do you enable any lagfixes?
Beyond what I've already stated, it doesn't take all that much to quickly look over the 5 or so worthwhile kernels in the development section and make an educated decision on your own.

I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any

Dupontrocks11 said:
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That quadrant disparity you might be experiencing might be due to darky 8.1 having a preinstalled, enabled by default lagfix that disappeared when you installed the speedmod kernel.
I don't mean to be a tough-love welcome party (by the way, welcome to the android community), but I know I did a lot of reading about, messing with, and messing up my phone before I even joined the captivate forums.
Do yourself a favor and read some of the dev stickies about ROMs, kernels, and modems just to get a bit better of an idea of their basic purpose/function, then look through the rest of the dev threads for kernels that might be what you're looking for, but (more importantly) would be compatible with your ROM.
It seems like a PITA, but knowing more about how your phone works will benefit you a great deal in the long run. Put in the time, reading, and careful experimenting right now, and you'll be flashing ROMs like a pro in no time.

Speedmod is also just the name of a Kernel. It is not a type of thing that goes on your phone. If you want the fastest speed, use an overclocked Kernel. I have used them in the past, but have always came back to Speedmod because it gets updated so regularly and also has the Voodoo Sound fix.

Thanks guys. I have no problem flashing roms as I watched many video on how to and read many articles on it. Also it might help that my father is senior member of this site with more than 10000 posts . I'll search through and see if I can't learn more about it.
Thanks again, Richard
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

[Q] Which ROM is right for me?

There are a ton of ROMS out there for the Captivate and I've tried quite a few of them. However, I'm not sure what the differences are or which one is right for me.
I've heard of:
Cognition, Perception (by Designgears)
FireFly, Phoenix (seems like these are by the same person)
Serendipity
I haven't tried Serendipity or Perception, but I've tried the others I listed. Various ROMS say they are based off of KB1 and JP6 (I probably have these wrong) as well as various other 3-letter names. I'm not really sure what these mean, but I think they relate to the ROM being based off of Android v2.1 or Android v2.2.
Here are a couple of things I'm looking for in a ROM:
Battery life is important to me. Most roms so far have been very good at this so long as I change the Wifi sleep policy to "Only when plugged in". If WIFI is on permanently, my battery life is crap.
I prefer a good theme. FireFly's theme is pretty good. It looks great and has nice window animations.
Must be at least Android v2.2. Gingerbread would be awesome but not a requirement.
Stability. Specifically, all phone/hardware features need to work and there should be minimal bugs. For example, using CM7 for Captivate at this point would be out of the question since it's still so young and I've heard it is unstable/buggy.
Based on what I've tried and my requirements, Cognition probably isn't going to be an option. The last time I used Cognition (when it was v3), it wasn't themed and was just an optimized version of stock.
Firefly, Phoenix and Serendipity all seem to be the same thing but with a slightly varied theme. I'm most confused by this. What are the differences here? If there are technical differences, I'd like to know those too. I think each are based off of different firmwares, right?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.

I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
Sent from my Captivate using XDA Premium App

mcord11758 said:
I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
Sent from my Captivate using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?

void.pointer said:
This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The best place to find any info abt any ROM/kernel would its OP. Try looking there.
Plus there won't be so much use of anyone compiling the differences 'cos a new version would be out every now n then. This is one of the reasons why there is no such thing.
Rather than asking for something generic like this, u could ask more specific questions like say. That way u wud get ur answers sooner.
mcord11758 said:
I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
Sent from my Captivate using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am with this. Cos a kernel that works on mine might not give the same results on urs.
void.pointer said:
Here are a couple of things I'm looking for in a ROM:
Battery life is important to me. Most roms so far have been very good at this so long as I change the Wifi sleep policy to "Only when plugged in". If WIFI is on permanently, my battery life is crap.
I prefer a good theme. FireFly's theme is pretty good. It looks great and has nice window animations.
Must be at least Android v2.2. Gingerbread would be awesome but not a requirement.
Stability. Specifically, all phone/hardware features need to work and there should be minimal bugs. For example, using CM7 for Captivate at this point would be out of the question since it's still so young and I've heard it is unstable/buggy.
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. wifi always has phone searching for it all time the screen is on. So keep it in when screen turns off, or the option u selected.
2. Themes are personal choices. Based on the ROM u choose, u can select theme of ur choice, or make a theme urself. There are guidelines posted.
3. Most ROMs now are 2.2.1. Would be mentioned in the OP.
4. Custom ROMs cannot guarantee that. Devs take all care and iron out issues when they find or when someone tells them abt them.
Check out a few ROMs and settle for one that suits u. And if u plan on putting on custom ROMs, don't bother on keeping ur hands clean. I think I flashed more than a dozen different ROMs before settling for what I am on now. And since I now found what suits me best, been sticking to it.
This is the normal process most people follow here.

void.pointer said:
This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, mcord11758 and diablo009 are right.
The differences are minimal, and you need to research each ROM. The very basics are.
MOST roms right now are running Froyo 2.2.1. Some are still 2.2. The JPY, JS3, JS5, KB1(Stock 2.2) Are, for lack of a better definition, are build numbers.
What you'll need to do is, quite frankly, read up on one that has your interest, flash it and if it doesnt work well for you try another. Each Captivate may respond to a ROM differently to the ROM/Kernel/Modem combination. So you literally have to try it