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Hi all!!!
I'm considering to buy the Moto X, I have a couple if questions though:
If I unlock the bootloader through Motorola, does root become easier (I realize that it isn't simple otherwise)
Is the bootloader relockable?
If I unlock a brand new phone, I won't lose anything, correct? You only lose what you install other than stock, is that correct?
Thanx all in advance...
shaya4207 said:
Hi all!!!
I'm considering to buy the Moto X, I have a couple if questions though:
If I unlock the bootloader through Motorola, does root become easier (I realize that it isn't simple otherwise)
Is the bootloader relockable?
If I unlock a brand new phone, I won't lose anything, correct? You only lose what you install other than stock, is that correct?
Thanx all in advance...
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1. Yes if you unlock all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and supersu. Pwnmymoto is pretty easy too, though.
2. Yes but I don't think that will give you back your warranty
3. Unlocking will basically do a factory reset in the device. So if it's brand new and you haven't used it yet you won't lose anything. But if it's already set up and being used be sure to save anything important before you unlock.
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Thanx!!! Isn't there an issue with PwnMyMoto with the camera update? Also it's safe to assume that once rooted WiFi tethering (like with FoxFi) will work, correct?
shaya4207 said:
Thanx!!! Isn't there an issue with PwnMyMoto with the camera update? Also it's safe to assume that once rooted WiFi tethering (like with FoxFi) will work, correct?
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i would suggest replying to someone if you want them to respond to you otherwise it won't show up in their notifications if they aren't subscribed to the thread.
PwnMyMoto didn't screw up the camera update. It was built for the android OS that came stock on the phone. Maintaining root through the OTA/ camera update is difficult currently. But that is partly because all of the info on the updates haven't been released yet. As time goes on and things develop and those smarter than me decide to get things done we should be able to maintain root through the update and future updates with no problems. Also, safestrap was recently released and is working through bugs but it will be fully functional soon and we will be able to use roms through them and not take the updates.
wifi tethering only matters on vza at least if you have unlimited data. Otherwise, they don't charge to wifi tether anymore. you just can't go above your data limit. But yes, rooting allow those 3rd party tethering apps to work. They may even work without root actually. But with root you can change the stock tethering app and keep your carrier from knowing you are tethering.
@jayboyyyy Thanx!!!
I've searched high and low for a root for my new galaxy note 3. I've seen somethings say the las vegas one or whatever but it couldn't be done on 4.4.2 kitkat. I've seen something about kingo. Which is the best method to root and unlock my boot loader so that i can flash roms.
Samsung galaxy note 3
Android version 4.4.2 kitkat
model- SM-n900a
Thank you in advance for your help! :good::laugh:
No rooting yet and there hasn't been unlocked bootloaders on the AT&T Note 3 yet.
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really???? bummer
A root method for 4.4.2 will be found eventually, so try to tough it out until its found. Not having root sucks, but it will hopefully come soon. An unlocked bootloader will most likely never happen unless someone holds the CEO of AT&T hostage (any volunteers?), so no custom kernels or AOSP for us unless someone gets Loki working.
Face_Plant said:
A root method for 4.4.2 will be found eventually, so try to tough it out until its found. Not having root sucks, but it will hopefully come soon. An unlocked bootloader will most likely never happen unless someone holds the CEO of AT&T hostage (any volunteers?), so no custom kernels or AOSP for us unless someone gets Loki working.
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I'm glad your that positive that a root method for 4.4.2 will be found, however (not to be a negative nelly) KK has some security features that Google has added, that would make it even harder to achieve root. That, with the added AT&T "updated" locked bootloader, would make it almost impossible to obtain root. Then, adding salt to the wound, the new S5 has just been released, so every DEV that's worth their salt would want to hop on the new tech bandwagon and tackle something new.
I personally don't care about root. I never rooted my Note 3 until the OTA update, which kept getting stuck at 27%. I followed the instructions to obtain root, installed the OTA update, but FORGOT TO UNROOT my phone!!! That stupid SU app is in the way, and I can't uninstall it! When it comes time for me to upgrade my Note3 to a Note4, anyone can simply look in my app draw and see SU app. Even ISIS wont work because it thinks my phone is rooted. I want to simply root my phone, delete that SU app, and un-root. It's that simple. If I can do this using ADB, i'll try it in a heartbeat.
awe that sucks..hopefully someone comes up with some thing soon. Thanks for your replies. When they do come up with a root method would we still be able to flash roms being that our bootloader is locked?
dunn816 said:
I've searched high and low for a root for my new galaxy note 3. I've seen somethings say the las vegas one or whatever but it couldn't be done on 4.4.2 kitkat. I've seen something about kingo. Which is the best method to root and unlock my boot loader so that i can flash roms.
Samsung galaxy note 3
Android version 4.4.2 kitkat
model- SM-n900a
Thank you in advance for your help! :good::laugh:
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At this time there is no way to root KitKat, period, either with De La Vega, or Kingo. In addition, the bootloaders are totally locked down. There currently is a petition here, to see if we can get AT&T to unlock them
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dunn816 said:
awe that sucks..hopefully someone comes up with some thing soon. Thanks for your replies. When they do come up with a root method would we still be able to flash roms being that our bootloader is locked?
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Search through the forum, there is a way to flash custom ROMS, just not in the typical way
lawalty said:
I'm glad your that positive that a root method for 4.4.2 will be found, however (not to be a negative nelly) KK has some security features that Google has added, that would make it even harder to achieve root. That, with the added AT&T "updated" locked bootloader, would make it almost impossible to obtain root. Then, adding salt to the wound, the new S5 has just been released, so every DEV that's worth their salt would want to hop on the new tech bandwagon and tackle something new.
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It still doesn't hurt to look up. The S5 is locked down tight just like the Note 3 so I don't see why devs would dump the Note 3 just to work on another locked device. The Note 3 is still relatively new and pretty popular so I doubt it's going to be given up on just yet.
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
Belongs in the Q&A section
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Belongs in the Q&A section
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You're right im sorry guys
Any possbility of a mod moving it?
marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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Root if something you want needs it, otherwise there's not any need. Do you need tomatoes? I dunno.
marcustdu said:
Hey guys, im stuck on deciding whether i should root my note 4 or not. What's really bugging me is that i will trip knox and will it devalue the phone?
Any benefits of rooting it right now? vs nonroot
i've seen some threads of rooting problems with some apps and such and im not sure if i should wait or not. Im coming from a rooted s4 and i kinda miss being rooted. Come on guys post what you think here!
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As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!
I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.
mgbotoe said:
As stated above, root if you have the NEED to root. For me, I got plenty. Smoothness, debloating, batterylife, awesome rooted apps out there (I know..only three reasons.) For others, they need a specific app they need to run on their phones and it will need root.
If non of these are an issue to you, do not root. If you cannot think of a reason to root without having the benefit of root vs non root listed out to you, I will advice you do not root because that tells me you actually do not have the need to root. Make sense?
As far as knox is concern...I will say only trip if if you have no need to send it straight to Samsung while your phone is still functioning. I say this because they will send it right back to you. Now if your phone is fried, how will they check exactly if knox is tripped? The carriers do not care, tmobile do not care. Most of the workers think nova is a rooted app. Thats how much they know about root.
You go to a carrier, simply do not give them a reason to think you are rooted. People like to take a phone with custom roms and custom kernels on there...thats not smart. They boot your phone, a message at the top most left of the phone will tell them you are rooted. Always go to the store with stock ^.^
Hope that helps!
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Thank you for your input, yes I do have things such as you listed for rooting! Merry Christmas!
chong67 said:
I have the Note 4. I root it about 2 weeks later after I got it. My reason: get ride of all the bloat junk that I dont need; now I can write to my SD card; unlimited hotspot; lean machine and good battery life. Its good to have su access.
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Thanks for the response! I think I know what I'm doing now [emoji14]
Merry Christmas!
Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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donnyp1 said:
Im in the same boat, sorta. Ive always rooted. Everything i had, even the old windows phones. This is the longest ive lasted non rooted. Im getting the itch. My question, if i root, flash twrp, does it erase my data? Not a big deal really, but im on level 110 on ea sports king of the course. Would suck to start over.
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Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away
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Neither rooting nor flashing a recovery will wipe your data. Some phones ship with the unlockable bootloaders and the unlocking process wipes the data (for example, on Google Nexus devices). But the bootloaders on T-Mobile Samsung phones are unlocked by default, so flash away
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Thanks dude, im on tmobile. Root then backup!
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Its done. I voided it!
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Rooted is the way to go! Only reason I haven't rooted yet is because I'm waiting for Android 5.0 to drop next month hopefully ! Then I will gladly root. Phone is much better when it is under your control.
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT
Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix (old fix)
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.
Updated previous post with some links to possible fixes.
virtualdj said:
Those of you who rooted the Note 4, can you confirm if root disables:
Private mode - Possible fix?
S-Health (maybe only if using Xposed) - Possible fix?
Screen Mirroring (wireless) - Possible fix?
Recording calls (?)
I would want to root mainly to gain access to the external SD card, possibility to enable/disable flight mode using profiles and wouldn't mind about OTA ora Knox 0x01.
But it's annoying to lose those functions for me.
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I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health. I guess the issue is when you're only rooted on stock ROM. But apparently there's walkarounds for those issues.
shook187 said:
I rooted but on a custom ROM and I have zero issues with private mode or S-health.
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Thanks, but actually I was interested on (possible) issues on stock ROM and, most importantly, if the walkarounds really work.
Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
paulsmcin said:
Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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If you want root, first thing you should do is unlock the bootloader. Second thing you should do is read all the threads regarding root in the SuperSU subforum. Third thing is you want marshmallow because battery life, in my experience, is far better.
I haven't experienced any buggy WiFi or BT with either of my N6s. Just because you had bad luck in the past doesn't mean you'll have the same experience with this phone. The only bad luck you'll encounter would come from your own inexperience.
paulsmcin said:
Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Its a Nexus. Even Verizon ota's won't lock it. Update it, unlock the boot loader before or after. Flash back, flash forward, flash sideways. It is all up to you. The entire os/image is downloadable from Google, it is a fully ipen phone.
There are no widespread problems with Marshmallow. It is great. You get that impression because only the people with problems post.
So I would stop reading threads about problems and just read the threads about flashing and customizing.
Take the ota's up to the current version.
Unlock the bootloader.
Flash TWRP.
Flash systemless root version 2.65 from chainfire.
That will get you started.
Thanks for the advice all, did the updates, unlocked the boot loader & rooted. Easiest phone ever to mod !
First of all, hi everyone owo/
Well, as the title says, my dad bought two unlocked S5's from Amazon and both of them come from AT&T and we use them here with Personal which is an Argentinian network carrier
Everything works fine, 4G works great, but one of the issues is this one
Since it passed 3 years when KitKat got the latest update (4.4.4, on the phone is 4.4.2 .-.) some apps do not want to upgrade at the Play Store since sometimes on Android when is not upgraded, some apps lose compatibility with the device (On this I doubt, I'm not 100% sure) and I want to ask to you guys if you can help me with steps to at least upgrade my mom's phone and mine (since my dad is getting a new one and gives me his S5) to Lollipop without rooting the device, because here on XDA I saw a post on how to do it but it requires root and I'm not going to do it just to be safe, so I was curious to see if there's a possibility of upgrading the system through Odin, which I do have a little bit of experience (I did have it with an older Sammy phone, not the newest ones) without losing the carrier unlock thing
If you guys can remember there was a code to let you know if the network was unlocked or not but sadly it does not work anymore so I don't have any idea if it is permanent or not other than switching the cards, so my question is, I will lose the unlock if I update the system through Odin??
Also I don't have a AT&T specific SIM card to do the upgrade (Which for me is BS having only the AT&T card to do system updates) and I saw some posts on XDA on how to update it but only I saw the root method to update fom KK to Lolli and I don't want to root it, I want to do it just normally through Odin saving me some time
I'm not against root, is fine but I always prefer a much safer way instead of tinkering with some important system stuff and also I'm new into this forum (And I visited XDA since 2012)
Have a good day
Rodoko (my username is old, so I use this one written here, my account was made in 2013 so... I am unable to modify it u.u )
Meipuru Kuurisu said:
First of all, hi everyone owo/
Well, as the title says, my dad bought two unlocked S5's from Amazon and both of them come from AT&T and we use them here with Personal which is an Argentinian network carrier
Everything works fine, 4G works great, but one of the issues is this one
Since it passed 3 years when KitKat got the latest update (4.4.4, on the phone is 4.4.2 .-.) some apps do not want to upgrade at the Play Store since sometimes on Android when is not upgraded, some apps lose compatibility with the device (On this I doubt, I'm not 100% sure) and I want to ask to you guys if you can help me with steps to at least upgrade my mom's phone and mine (since my dad is getting a new one and gives me his S5) to Lollipop without rooting the device, because here on XDA I saw a post on how to do it but it requires root and I'm not going to do it just to be safe, so I was curious to see if there's a possibility of upgrading the system through Odin, which I do have a little bit of experience (I did have it with an older Sammy phone, not the newest ones) without losing the carrier unlock thing
If you guys can remember there was a code to let you know if the network was unlocked or not but sadly it does not work anymore so I don't have any idea if it is permanent or not other than switching the cards, so my question is, I will lose the unlock if I update the system through Odin??
Also I don't have a AT&T specific SIM card to do the upgrade (Which for me is BS having only the AT&T card to do system updates) and I saw some posts on XDA on how to update it but only I saw the root method to update fom KK to Lolli and I don't want to root it, I want to do it just normally through Odin saving me some time
I'm not against root, is fine but I always prefer a much safer way instead of tinkering with some important system stuff and also I'm new into this forum (And I visited XDA since 2012)
Have a good day
Rodoko (my username is old, so I use this one written here, my account was made in 2013 so... I am unable to modify it u.u )
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It is highly suggested that you root with towelroot and upgrade with flashfire. You can't root on Lollipop and you can't downgrade back to KK. May as well root now just in case you ever need it. Root doesn't modify system files on its own, the end-user does that.