Heya people,
i was just wondering, is there or will there be a European radio for nexus one froyo? or is the radio always global? if there will be one, will it be better for UMTS networks?
Thanks in advance
bump =/ noone answers and no answer on whole of the forum
No, there won't be, and never was. Different radio versions, but nothing to do with location. Any version works anywhere. It's the antennas that make a difference.
No, they all use the same hardware and the same radios. Just make sure to set ro.ril.hsxpa=2 in build.prop to enable HSUPA (and HSDPA too of course).
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Does anybody knows if it will be possible to change the bands from Asian verision to American version just by changing the ROM, or is it a harware matter. I was wondering, because I saw in my Asian version the American bands but do not connect.
Thanks,
Not possible.. its a hardware issue. No antenna for those bands.
do a search in the forum for a more full explanation.
Can I flash my X1i with a X1a ROM?
I have an UK phone and I am trying to make the 3G working in Brazil which operator uses GSM 1800 & UMTS 850.
Thanks for the help in advance!
wcrov
Sure not a problem. dont forget hard spl
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
Fulgore69 said:
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
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Thanks for your reply!
So, you are saying that after flashing I'll be able to use X1a's band only? Please clarify...
I know that the X1i comes with:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
So, according to the bands above, the X1 is able to connect in FOUR GSM bands and FOUR UMTS bands, but unfortunately has only two combinations (the ones above) for X1i...
For my X1i's 3G network to work in Brazil, I need to use a combination like 1800's GSM band & 850's UMTS band.
Please correct me if I am wrong... thanks!
wcrov
yes you can flash an x1a rom.
however, IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE 3G BANDS.
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
figurine said:
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
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Sorry, but that doesn't make sense... why my X1i shows FOUR bands for GSM and FOUR bands for UMTS?
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
Looks like the X1i is 850 capable but only on 1900 GSM networks...
So it must have a way to combine the GSM(1800) with UMTS(850)...just wondering...
it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
you're on a pointless endeavor, my friend. people have tried.
figurine said:
it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
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if we just think this way, we never would have the hardSPL, cooked ROMs, etc...
figurine said:
people have tried.
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Maybe the RIGHT people haven't tried yet...
I am not convinced yet... I still believin that might have a way to combine GSM(1800) & UMTS(850) on a X1i...
Please someone show me technical sources to proof that I am wrong!!!
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why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
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Newton is mad now!
I've Googled around for the better part of the morning and not found an answer.... forgive the noob question. I'm a programmer, but I don't know much about mobile tech/programming.
I have an unlocked Treo 750 I use on T-Mobile. Software Treo750-2.25-ATT Firmware 1.54.27.00. I'd like to know if it's possible to use the T-Mobile US 3G network. I was told it wasn't possible due to T-Mo using 1700/2100 band, which the Treo can't access.
Would upgrading the radio version allow me to do this? If so, is that the only piece that would need to be updated? Which radio version? From what I've read, it and the ROM talk to one another but radio capabilities aren't determined/defined by the ROM. Is that correct?
Many thanks in advance,
Richard
Not sure but I think it will
Radios do not work like that. The antennas in the phone are calibrated to work on certain frequency ranges. It's the same reason that a normal FM car antenna would work poorly for shortwave or CB.
The radios in the phone are approved (at least for the US) to work on preset frequencies by the FCC as well, so they will not even have the capability to work on any other bands because if they were broad-spectrum radios, the phone would fall into another category of device as mandated by the FCC.
Thus, any phone will only work on the bands that it is designed to.
I'm wondering if all ROMs and radios are compatible with both the X1a and X1i or just one of the two. Thanks in advance!
Yes. All ROMs and Radios are compatible with X1a and X1i.
Thanks! And also, all radios are compatible with all carriers, correct?
Yeah thats right.
Although, I would note that in my experience, the Radio that came with my X1i last year (probably the oldest one and original Stock Radio for the device), did not keep signal with the UK Hutchison 3G Network (2100MHz UMTS/HSDPA)... But Radios from 1.10 to 1.14 are fine. ... Thats just an observation I made.
So any news on 1700-2100 3G support for T-Mobile US? Are there any radios available that are compatible with this network?
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So any news on 1700-2100 3G support for T-Mobile US? Are there any radios available that are compatible with this network?
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no update? im still waiting to see if i can speed up my all powerful X1 to my scrawny g1's speed
Radios are from I gather are merely firmware updates for the communication radios (GSM, 3G, GPS, Wifi, BT) in your device. You can't change from a X1i to a X1a with a flash, you'd have to change the hardware.
I had an 1Xi it broke, sent it into SE here in the US. They could not fix it so they sent me a new phone today an X1A. The phone says X1A on the sticker behind the battery. But everywhere else on the phone it says X1i
Phone name is Xi1, Rom says Generic_UK
and i only get H connection on my 3g att sim.
What can i do ??
Does this even matter as i am planning on dowloading some of the custom roms here
Same here says x1i instea od x1a while I ahve x1a replaced
this is really really weird.
But the question does it matter what rom phone comes with if one is going to flash a new rom to it anways ?
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this is really really weird.
But the question does it matter what rom phone comes with if one is going to flash a new rom to it anways ?
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Does not really matter as you can flash any ROM that you want to try. I suggest that you try reading the tutorial on how to flash ROM's before proceeding. Have fun!
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Does not really matter as you can flash any ROM that you want to try. I suggest that you try reading the tutorial on how to flash ROM's before proceeding. Have fun!
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Laurence, im watching the videos right now how to do it. One thing is was curious is about all the roms dont distinguish between xi or xa how do the phones work in the various networks then ??
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Laurence, im watching the videos right now how to do it. One thing is was curious is about all the roms dont distinguish between xi or xa how do the phones work in the various networks then ??
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Well, you will only find out which one works for you once you try the ROM's cooked in theis forum. I suggest that you try the one created by Agent_47. For me, and at the moment, it's one of the fastest and most stable ROM so far. Try this link and download version 2.9 FS-G. If that does not work, you can try others. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
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Well, you will only find out which one works for you once you try the ROM's cooked in theis forum. I suggest that you try the one created by Agent_47. For me, and at the moment, it's one of the fastest and most stable ROM so far. Try this link and download version 2.9 FS-G. If that does not work, you can try others. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
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Yes, it does work on various networks. As you can see, i'm from the Philippines and was flashing different type of ROM's and they all work.
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Yes, it does work on various networks. As you can see, i'm from the Philippines and was flashing different type of ROM's and they all work.
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laurence got another quick question for ya
so im following the video doing step 1 backing up original rom.
I am at the step of the pdocread -l
i do it but it does not copy a file to my x1 like it does on what the video shows any ideas ??
running windows 7 if that matters
tweety82 said:
laurence got another quick question for ya
so im following the video doing step 1 backing up original rom.
I am at the step of the pdocread -l
i do it but it does not copy a file to my x1 like it does on what the video shows any ideas ??
running windows 7 if that matters
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Sorry but could not help you there. I did not back-up my ROM when i first flash my device. If, for some reason, you do not want the cooked ROM that you flash, there is always an available original ROM on this forum.
and H connection under 3G icon place is showing you have HSDPA connected, what is alot faster then 3G
So from what everyone is saying it does not matter LOL
especailly with me putting custom roms in the phone.
Just funny how SE cant get their crap together and give u wrong rom with a phone model.
But what i dont get is the X1i and Xia has different hardware right. So how do does the same rom wrong on both models, regarding getting 3g. As in the usa we have different band from the rest of the world. Would that not mean u would need to download a custom rom that supports x1A ?? i dont see any roms out there that says they are for x1a or x1i.
Whoa hold on there. It certainly does matter if you had an X1a and they gave you an X1i! For ROMs it does not matter. They are interchangeable between the two. But it does matter in terms of network coverage.
First, to explain the H, UMTS is 3G. HSDPA and HSUPA are upgrades for downlink and uplink speeds to UMTS. Is you have both HSDPA and HSUPA, it is then just said that you have HSPA in which case you will see 'H' instead of '3G'. HSPA is sometimes called 3.5G.
ATT uses 1900mhz for 3G in some places and 850mhz in others, though most of the time it is 1900mhz. The X1i supports 3G on 1900mhz but NOT on 850mhz. The X1a supports both. So with an X1i there are some places that may have 3G and you wont get it. It sounds like 3G is on 1900mhz in your area so you see no difference but if you want to get 3G everywhere ATT has is you need your 'a' back. I have ATT and an X1i and dont mind. I get 3G in hampton roads and northern VA, as well as in NY. I am satisfied. Hopefully they will roll it out here in bburg soon (I was told by the store rep when I signed up that it would come this year) and hopefully on 1900mhz. YMMV.
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Looks like I read it wrong. You had an 'i' and they gave you an 'a'? Not such a disadvantage there but there is another issue. The X1i is capable of 30fps VGA video recording while the 'a' can only do 15fps and QVGA (due to a lawsuit on Qualcomm in the US; their video compression technology infringed on Broadcomm's IP). So advantages and disadvantages to each.
So physically i have XiA
i guess at the repair center they screwed up and installed the generic_uk rom.
So its better to have H, then the 3g logo? I live in houston texas and when i had my old x1i it also said H.
So when i install a custom rom this weekend(firestom 2.9 looks great)
I will still have an H instead of the 3g logo?
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Whoa hold on there. It certainly does matter if you had an X1a and they gave you an X1i! For ROMs it does not matter. They are interchangeable between the two. But it does matter in terms of network coverage.
First, to explain the H, UMTS is 3G. HSDPA and HSUPA are upgrades for downlink and uplink speeds to UMTS. Is you have both HSDPA and HSUPA, it is then just said that you have HSPA in which case you will see 'H' instead of '3G'. HSPA is sometimes called 3.5G.
ATT uses 1900mhz for 3G in some places and 850mhz in others, though most of the time it is 1900mhz. The X1i supports 3G on 1900mhz but NOT on 850mhz. The X1a supports both. So with an X1i there are some places that may have 3G and you wont get it. It sounds like 3G is on 1900mhz in your area so you see no difference but if you want to get 3G everywhere ATT has is you need your 'a' back. I have ATT and an X1i and dont mind. I get 3G in hampton roads and northern VA, as well as in NY. I am satisfied. Hopefully they will roll it out here in bburg soon (I was told by the store rep when I signed up that it would come this year) and hopefully on 1900mhz. YMMV.
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Looks like I read it wrong. You had an 'i' and they gave you an 'a'? Not such a disadvantage there but there is another issue. The X1i is capable of 30fps VGA video recording while the 'a' can only do 15fps and QVGA (due to a lawsuit on Qualcomm in the US; their video compression technology infringed on Broadcomm's IP). So advantages and disadvantages to each.
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tweety82 said:
So physically i have XiA
i guess at the repair center they screwed up and installed the generic_uk rom.
So its better to have H, then the 3g logo? I live in houston texas and when i had my old x1i it also said H.
So when i install a custom rom this weekend(firestom 2.9 looks great)
I will still have an H instead of the 3g logo?
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Yes H is better than 3G. On most phones with stock/carrier branded ROMS, the H symboly is disabled so that even if you have HSPA you will still see a '3G' icon. This is done because customers may not know what 'H' means and therefore may complain that they are not getting 3G coverage. Most custom ROMs leave the 'H' logo enabled.
So I take it you are sticking with the X1a? It is a toss up for me. I used to have t-mobile which does not have 3G on 1900 or 850 so it did not matter which X1 I got. I therefore opted for the one with better video recording. Now I switched to ATT. I get 3G signal in all the 3G covered areas that I have visited. As long as 3G here in Blacksburg (where I spend most of the year) comes in the 1900 flavor Ill keep my 'i'.