Can I flash my X1i with a X1a ROM?
I have an UK phone and I am trying to make the 3G working in Brazil which operator uses GSM 1800 & UMTS 850.
Thanks for the help in advance!
wcrov
Sure not a problem. dont forget hard spl
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
Fulgore69 said:
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
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Thanks for your reply!
So, you are saying that after flashing I'll be able to use X1a's band only? Please clarify...
I know that the X1i comes with:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
So, according to the bands above, the X1 is able to connect in FOUR GSM bands and FOUR UMTS bands, but unfortunately has only two combinations (the ones above) for X1i...
For my X1i's 3G network to work in Brazil, I need to use a combination like 1800's GSM band & 850's UMTS band.
Please correct me if I am wrong... thanks!
wcrov
yes you can flash an x1a rom.
however, IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE 3G BANDS.
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
figurine said:
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
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Sorry, but that doesn't make sense... why my X1i shows FOUR bands for GSM and FOUR bands for UMTS?
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
Looks like the X1i is 850 capable but only on 1900 GSM networks...
So it must have a way to combine the GSM(1800) with UMTS(850)...just wondering...
it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
you're on a pointless endeavor, my friend. people have tried.
figurine said:
it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
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if we just think this way, we never would have the hardSPL, cooked ROMs, etc...
figurine said:
people have tried.
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Maybe the RIGHT people haven't tried yet...
I am not convinced yet... I still believin that might have a way to combine GSM(1800) & UMTS(850) on a X1i...
Please someone show me technical sources to proof that I am wrong!!!
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why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
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Newton is mad now!
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So, with what deviece Radio is the Xperia Compatible?
Only Blackstone or also diamond etc.?
xmoo said:
So, with what deviece Radio is the Xperia Compatible?
Only Blackstone or also diamond etc.?
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As far as I know both of them.
Has someone tried it?
Is there any hope at all of a radio firmware upgrade that might bring T-Mobile's 3G to the Xperia?
How about the hope of bringing the 850mhz UTMS band to X1i users?
scar45 said:
How about the hope of bringing the 850mhz UTMS band to X1i users?
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What does 850mhz UTMS cover?
xmoo said:
What does 850mhz UTMS cover?
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Sorry, not sure what you mean xmoo...here in Canada, Rogers uses 850/1900mhz for GSM and UMTS, but I can't seem to get on the 1900 UMTS network. It always hops on 850, so I wanted to have the ability to get 3G on 850mhz UMTS.
My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs
White_Hair said:
My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs
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This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
I have a question on this, when SE 1st released info about X1, they mentioned that it's Quand band GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/3G 850, 900, 1900, 2100. Why when they released it, they had to make 2 versions to support different networks? I think that this is stupid, they can do that for branded phones but not for SE unbraded phones, exactly like HTC and the HD, Diamond and Pro. We pay a lot of money for these for so at least give us full functionality... especially that these phones are more of business phones, so it's expected that people travel with these phones....or am i wrong about that?
thanks
I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)
rwholden said:
I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)
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In what part of the USA are you?
George Knighton said:
In what part of the USA are you?
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yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.
Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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White_Hair said:
Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
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Please read and search before asking...
You answer is HERE (google search, first link displayed for "wikipedia rogers 3G": the band has always been there waiting for you to read it under "Services": Rogers 3G 850MHz) so you need the X1a, the X1i won't pick that band
Sorry to bother but this has been posted before (read and search before asking)
mrabie said:
yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.
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I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.
40oz2Freedom said:
I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.
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Gr8 thanks for the info
yeah, I don't get any 3G in canada with my X1i.
I live in Vancouver BC, always in Edge.
I have had an occurence once, but only once! =[
I get HSDPA in the Dallas\Ft. Worth Area, and in Lawton, OK. Everywhere else I go I'm on Edge. And this is with a X1a on ATT.
ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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Nobody in the US uses 2100MHz, AFAIK, and I'm pretty sure Canada follows the same frequencies.
1900, on the other hand, is supported by the X1i, which is used by AT&T, Rogers, and Bell.
The downside is that if you're unfortunate enough to use T-Mobile, the network uses 850MHz only, and you're stuck with EDGE.
man guy this is too simple to find and you open a thread for this??!!??!?! STOP CLOGGING THE FORUMS!!!!!
My understanding is that there are people who have the TP2 activated here in the US...
but 3g doesn't work since it uses a different band in EU
so...the million dollar question...
is this hardware or software issue and eventually fixable with a rom upgrade in the future?
thanks for your input
eigerzoom said:
My understanding is that there are people who have the TP2 activated here in the US...
but 3g doesn't work since it uses a different band in EU
so...the million dollar question...
is this hardware or software issue and eventually fixable with a rom upgrade in the future?
thanks for your input
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Since the hardware is very much like the Raphael hardware I would guess that the correct hardware needs to be in place for US 3G. I hope I am wrong since I have a euro version TP2 here in the states.
yeah...its looking like hardware...
It is a hardware thing. They are on different bands (Quad band and tri-band).
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It is a hardware thing. They are on different bands (Quad band and tri-band).
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I dont think it is even bands...my TP2 is quad band I believe and can not get 3G with AT&T.
Bands for my phone Quad Band 850/900/1800/1900
yah plenty of US ppl have them but the euro models only have 3g on 2100mhz (basically wifi???)
usa 3g is on different band...
the quad bands are for phone use (i think...but i'm a noob)
att 3g is 850.1900 tibble is 1700 and telstra is 850/1900
so if i understand it right...to gain 3g on different band besides 2100 (wifi/eu) you are looking at hardware
eigerzoom said:
but the euro models only have 3g on 2100mhz (basically wifi???)
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what does wifi have anything to do with this?
cmonex said:
what does wifi have anything to do with this?
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uh...lol...dont mind me
im just a nub
i should have said wcdma
astain hellbinger (im sure i mispelled that) has been home schooling me...
and he represents any knowlede i have tried to represent here...
forgive my crude interpretation
some of it is sticking though...lol
If you purchased a quadband unlocked TP2, you will never be able to get US 3G on it unless you can get the hardware modified (which in all likelihood, you can't).
If you have a TP2 with triband then it will either support AT&T (850/1900/2100) or T-mobile USA (850/1700/2100). A phone model will probably not come out that supports both T-mobile and AT&T 3G frequencies. This would require a quadband phone with (850/1700/1900/2100). A phone with all four of those frequencies has never been made.
EDGE will work on almost all carriers, world-wide, on a quadband phone EDGE will work on most carriers world-wide on a triband phone.
850 is mostly used for EDGE (both up and downlink). 1700/1900 are commonly used for uplink 3G. 2100 is commonly used for downlink 3G.
I hope that this clears things up.
As mentioned above, internal hardware is almost identical as the Raphael.
This thread gathered the most information for 3G Raphael in the US.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40
So probably hardware and no go although LTxda mentioned bricking his Raphael trying to get 3G working with Elite's team and cmonex, so maybe she as something to add !? =Þ
skyler17 said:
If you purchased a quadband unlocked TP2, you will never be able to get US 3G on it unless you can get the hardware modified (which in all likelihood, you can't).
If you have a TP2 with triband then it will either support AT&T (850/1900/2100) or T-mobile USA (850/1700/2100). A phone model will probably not come out that supports both T-mobile and AT&T 3G frequencies. This would require a quadband phone with (850/1700/1900/2100). A phone with all four of those frequencies has never been made.
EDGE will work on almost all carriers, world-wide, on a quadband phone EDGE will work on most carriers world-wide on a triband phone.
850 is mostly used for EDGE (both up and downlink). 1700/1900 are commonly used for uplink 3G. 2100 is commonly used for downlink 3G.
I hope that this clears things up.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I have recently ordered an x1a and was doing some reading preparing on what rom I will flash, then it dawned on me that my favorite rom; EnergyRom is actually made for a x1i...
I was trying to find out if it will be ok to flash the roms made for a x1i on a x1a.
And would the 850Mhz and 1900MHz 3g bands both still work.
And would that allow it to record video at [email protected]?
Since i heard that x1a's are limited to [email protected], or [email protected]
anyone?... I can't belive this question has never come up.
Yes the rom will work fine on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467656&highlight=flashed+x1i+x1a
Regards,
WC
Stalix said:
And would the 850Mhz and 1900MHz 3g bands both still work.
And would that allow it to record video at [email protected]?
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Yes you will keep 850MHz and 1900MHz
No it does not allow 30fps recording
Both are hardware designed so rom can't change them
Yes. As Mopral said. Alas, most killer ROMs here and elsewhere are for X1i. But that hasn't stopped us X1a owners to use or enjoy them.
thanks all, i knew it would work, but i was hoping to make sure that my umts bands were using both 850 and 1900.
I have started another thread asking for a way to test these bands individually to make sure the 850mhz works, and that te x1i rom hasn't disabled it.
aren't the radio things cleared / defined by the radio rom u use?
Hi!
I was looking foward to replace my X1a for a X2a.
My question: Is this a X2a or X2i?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Smartpho...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265734518&sr=8-1
Cheers.
"Supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900"
I think the 850Mhz band support would mean it's X2a as only USA use that band as far as I know
Rudegar said:
"Supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900"
I think the 850Mhz band support would mean it's X2a as only USA use that band as far as I know
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it could be an x2i as well. these are just the gsm-bands, which almost every phone supports. (it's called "quadband")
they differ in the supported 3g-bands: i-version = 900+2100, the a-version would support 1700 for 3g (and i think 900 as 3g as well).
another thing:
the X1a was somehow limited in video-recording compared to the X1i, the reason being some patent-restrictions in the US. i think it had something to do with limited video-framerate. but that's not stated either. (using the same qualcomm-cpu it should be the same for the X2)
so, you can't tell from the info on amazon. ask the shop to be sure?
Jolo_ said:
Hi!
I was looking foward to replace my X1a for a X2a.
My question: Is this a X2a or X2i?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Smartpho...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265734518&sr=8-1
Cheers.
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I'm pretty sure the X2a has been released yet, so my guess is X2i. The bands are the gsm bands as mentioned above, so they don't tell you which it is. Additionally, like with the X1, I wouldn't be suprised if most just called the european version the X2, and only differentiated when actually mentioning the american "a" version.