So I had my G1 for a day and I decided to root it and put a custom rom in it; I am used to the way you do it on windows mobile so I found this pretty tricky and I did something wrong from a tutorial : I first installed Danger-spl without radio. So I wanted to know if there is anyway to force it to enter recovery mode ( it can't with the key combinations ) or I heard about the ORT and some other tools that could fix it. Could anyone clear things up a bit? Thank you in advance.
Nope, you have the famous Danger SPL brick. The issue is an incompatibility with the radio, recovery and SPL. Basically, it has a recovery boot flag that can't be erased, but the recovery can't boot.
Yep thats the reason they call it danger spl.
i forgot exactly, but i remember reading some where on forums that if you have a second G1 you can revive yours transfering some hardware, so you might get a cheap fix if you buy a g1 with broken screen or something.
In the instructions it says the following;
"DO NOT SKIP THIS NEXT STEP OR YOU WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE
You must have the latest radio "2_22_19_26I" or "2_22_23_02" to flash this SPL if you already have the latest radio you should not have to flash it again but it will not hurt if you do flash it again. When in doubt flash it anyway. "
I found that in the four or five times I have rooted phones I have always had Radio 2.22.12.26I, so I once decieded I didnt need to flash and subsiquently flashed and BRICKED my phone.
Always flash radio before spl regardless of whether you think you have the latest radio or not.
G1 Bricked
Okay so I can't fix it the easy way, before switching parts, what about the ORT?
Never heard of it, only fix I know without replacing parts is JTAG, which involves ~$50 of equipment and soldering to the motherboard.
I also did the exact same brick on first day I got my G1. I know the feeling it's the worst.
I took a month learning about the JTAG method and buying the parts in stages (G1 JTAG adapter shipped from Poland so took a while). Eventually I built it and I was able to successfully unbrick my G1.
It cost ~£135 to buy all the bits but I was determined to do it regardless of the cost.
There are a few on here with G1 JTAG for unbricking so maybe one who is relatively near you can help you out?
Tony_SpaZ said:
Never heard of it, only fix I know without replacing parts is JTAG, which involves ~$50 of equipment and soldering to the motherboard.
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No soldering to the motherboard is required when using the G1 JTAG adapter.
Ah, my bad. Did little more than glance at the wiki.
I believe that they have identified the jtag points but as yet I dont think anyone has found a way to do it yet. Search for (de-bricking dreams) on here.
I think if you live in America there is a place you can try, they say there is a 80% chance of debricking, however, to do it yourself you would need the equiptment and that would cost you more than the phone is worth.
You best bet is to buy a donor g1 from ebay and replace the mainboard that cost me about £40 to do.
You could also try sending it back to t-mo and hope they just repair it, thats what happened to me and I ended up with a phone with a crack screen as a spare. Sorry for your loss I was gutted when it happened to me
P.S there is a method of changing the motherboard without soldering tutorial here: http://www.portatronics.com/guide/T-Mobile-Smartphone-Repair-Guide/
JTAG
Okay so what exactly is JTAG and how does it work? any change of finding these tools in a phone service?
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Okay so I can't fix it the easy way, before switching parts, what about the ORT?
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There is a JTAG guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/JTAG_DREAM_AND_MAGIC
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I believe that they have identified the jtag points but as yet I dont think anyone has found a way to do it yet. Search for (de-bricking dreams) on here.
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It's been done by at least five on here. Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
Update
I gave it to a phone service and the guy said he'll see what he can do and that he hopes it isn't physically damaged. I will tell you what happened and if it is fixed maybe someone can learn from this; As for myself,I learned my lesson xD
Confirmation
Could anyone confirm that if I replace the motherboard with a new one ( http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Dream-Mothe...d=ViewItem&pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3caee067e9 ) The phone will work ?
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G1 Bricked? or not I think Yes...have you Solution for me
hi, i'm new on this forum
G1 Bricked? or not I think Yes...have you Solution for Me?
no fastboot access
no recovery access
press home and power nothing
press camera and power nothing
logo t-mobile stay on the screen
when i press scroll and power blue led mode appear
i have flash my phone many times and no problem
to day big problem, after flash my radio 1.5 for a radio 1.0, because problem with wireless connection, and Now after the reboot my phone no respond
do you have any idee for my problem
perhaps: goldcard solution or.....???
Please thank's for help
Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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thanks you for your rapid ask, but i sure , exist a solution for the brick.
my phoneis not guaranteed because I bought it used
SNIFFF
There's no current solution for a brick. A brick is a brick and you're done. Sorry
I had the same issued as you are having i was also stuck on the t-mobile logo screen because of the radio update, and yes my phone got brick. but since i had insurance on the phone i took it to my local t-mobile made up some excuse that my phone stop working and they gave me a brand new one in store for free. gotta love the extra at 5 dollars you pay for insurance saved me from buying a new one lol.
Yup, you've got a brick. Most common brick actually, downgrading radio 9/10 times seems to leed to a brick. Currently there are no working fixes. There are rumors that either a serial->USB cable might help fix a brick or wiring up a jtag setup. There's info about both on the interwebs but neither has been proven to work on the dream yet afaik.
Here is my question. What were you doing before the brick happened? By chance did you install the special spl?
alritewhadeva said:
Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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This is horeible advice you never want to tell them you droped the phone, that's not covered under warranty. Just tell them the phone won't boot. But yeah sound like your phone is fubar.
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This is horeible advice you never want to tell them you droped the phone, that's not covered under warranty. Just tell them the phone won't boot. But yeah sound like your phone is fubar.
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How is it bad advice? Hardware problems are covered by warranty, software are not. the brick is a SOFTWARE problem. T-Mobile does not give replacement g1s that are screwed up because of something you installed that wasn't issued by T-Mobile themself. If you tell them you dropped it , its a HARDWARE problem and they provide replacements...
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How is it bad advice? Hardware problems are covered by warranty, software are not. the brick is a SOFTWARE problem. T-Mobile does not give replacement g1s that are screwed up because of something you installed that wasn't issued by T-Mobile themself. If you tell them you dropped it , its a HARDWARE problem and they provide replacements...
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Telling them you dropped the phone and it no longer boots is your problem and they will say so. "Was it working before you dropped it?" Yes it was "Then it soulds like when "YOU" dropped the phone you messed it up" Hope you have the phone insurance that's the only way you are most likely going to get a new one but it's going to cost you.
While it's a software problem if you drop the phone and break it they do not have to replace it.
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Telling them you dropped the phone and it no longer boots is your problem and they will say so. "Was it working before you dropped it?" Yes it was "Then it soulds like when "YOU" dropped the phone you messed it up" Hope you have the phone insurance that's the only way you are most likely going to get a new one but it's going to cost you.
While it's a software problem if you drop the phone and break it they do not have to replace it.
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Oh god, fine then. You come up with a better story and post back I don't understand your last sentence...In the official tmobile g1 forums they state that they are not responsible for anything you do software wise to your phone ( root, ROMs, spl, brick, etc..)
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Oh god, fine then. You come up with a better story and post back I don't understand your last sentence...In the official tmobile g1 forums they state that they are not responsible for anything you do software wise to your phone ( root, ROMs, spl, brick, etc..)
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simple The OTA got to you for cupcake and you went to install it when the phone rebooted it was stuck at the G1 screen. they will walk you through a few steps and confirm it's messed up. At that point they will send you out a replacement. You do not have to say anything about it being rooted. I just did this for my friends moms phone. He messed it up I called and got her a replacement sent. Now if you are not a T-mo customer you are out of luck though which sucks :/
Hell I had to do this for 2 phones. 1 G1 and 1 Shadow this past week (both phones were modded by me/friend) Shadow was a true hardware issue though and not the mods fault though.
just tell them your phone wont boot up if you cant get to recovery or android screen neither can they on your phone so they will never know what u did to it
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simple The OTA got to you for cupcake and you went to install it when the phone rebooted it was stuck at the G1 screen. they will walk you through a few steps and confirm it's messed up. At that point they will send you out a replacement. You do not have to say anything about it being rooted. I just did this for my friends moms phone. He messed it up I called and got her a replacement sent. Now if you are not a T-mo customer you are out of luck though which sucks :/
Hell I had to do this for 2 phones. 1 G1 and 1 Shadow this past week (both phones were modded by me/friend) Shadow was a true hardware issue though and not the mods fault though.
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Lol okay then. Still think that if you report a hardware issue like you broke it, T-Mobile will still replace it as long as you still have the 1 year warranty that came with it. Like Cyanogen's issue where his touchscreen was messedup. HARDWAREE issue and T-Mobile replaced it
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Lol okay then. Still think that if you report a hardware issue like you broke it, T-Mobile will still replace it as long as you still have the 1 year warranty that came with it. Like Cyanogen's issue where his touchscreen was messedup. HARDWAREE issue and T-Mobile replaced it
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I work for T-mobile and telling them you broke the hardware on the phone is NOT covered under warranty. The manufacture's warranty only covers phone defects not people dropping their phone. A touch screen going out is an example of hardware covered under warranty. Software is covered under warranty as well and all you have to say is the phone won't boot past the G1 screen. Thats all you have to say.
All right. I rest my case then O mighty T-Mobile worker. No sarcasm haha.
Yeah its true, you do have to be careful if you plan on using the warranty route if its not totally legit, but then I suppose it differs depending on region. Over here in the UK it covers quite a few things like accidental dropping of the mobile, water damage etc. Which reminds me, I need to add my mobile to my monthly insurance policy...
The insurance isn't really worth it =/ Even if you claim it you still have to pay 130$ here in NY
Blimey... I pay £6/m (thanks to my credit card policies) instead of the usual £9/m that covers the mobile phone over accidental damage, theft, water damage, software damage etc. However if I do make a claim I think its £30-£40 for a replacement G1.
HELP! Is my g1 bricked?
After reading a few other thread I believe my g1 is bricked.
I was trying to install Superhero G3. After installing the radio provided in this thread:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f56/official-hero-g3-build-rom-18471/
My phone hung at the T-Mobile g1 boot logo.
I can't get into recovery or anything.
I bought the phone from craigslist, so I don't have a warranty or anything. My parents would kill me if they found out I have to buy myself a new phone.
PLEASE I hope there is something I can do to fix this.
Hey I was just looking on eBay and found this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-G1-ANDROID-...ell_Phones?hash=item439b98bb44#ht_2866wt_1168
He says he can fix radio bricked G1's
I don't believe it but who knows
THIS IS A REPAIR SERVICE FOR ALL HTC G1 PHONES. IF YOUR PHONE IS BRICKED OR THE SCREEN GOES TO G1 LOGO AND FREEZES. ALSO IF THE PHONE POWERS ON AND IT GOES INTO THE BOOT MENU THEN A TRIANGLE WITH EXCLAMTION POINT THEN IT CAN BE FIXED. I BRICKED MY PHONE AFTER I INSTALLED THE RADIO TWICE AND I WAS WITH OUT A PHONE FOR 2 DAYS. AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH AND READING ALOT OF FORUMS. I FOUND A WAY TO UNBRICK MY PHONE.
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EDIT: What mode does the G1 go into when you press the scroll ball in and power. I did it just now and a blue LED popped up, could this be a way to unbrick? I'm sure someone else found that out though.
CrazyEye said:
Hey I was just looking on eBay and found this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-G1-ANDROID-...ell_Phones?hash=item439b98bb44#ht_2866wt_1168
He says he can fix radio bricked G1's
I don't believe it but who knows
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he offers no proof, no explanation, and he's just annoying by typing with all caps. even if he did have a way to unbrick a bricked g1, i wouldn't let him near mine because i'd be afraid his poor internet etiquette would attach itself to my phone and infect me.
My thoughts exactly, I wonder how the people in HTC flashes the boards. I was looking up and found out about jtag a long time ago but thats probably it. I'm no pro though lol.
There is still something inside saying "what if..." haha. Well I'm glad my G1 isn't bricked *knocks on wood*
Ebay is a place where a bunch of low life people go in hopes they can rip off people who dont know any better.
Unfortunatly it just shows us that a lot of humans are scum.
No need to post this here, if it happens you will probably hear about it here first.
yeah ebay can get pretty sketchy. and besides, for 75 dollars? he's probably just gonna buy another g1 and replace the motherboard which can easily be done for under 50.
Today I bricked my captivate and tried various methods to try to unbrick it.
But looks like it is really bricked and was wondering if RIFF JTAG would help
http://www.jtagbox.com/?s=captivate
They seem to have added support for captivate today itself. So not sure how many folks would have used it to unbrick captivate, but in general has anyone used the RIFF jtag to unbrick any phone?
Or has any one used the JTAG to unbrick captivate?
Interesting find. I have very little experience with JTAG so can't really help but I am curious to know what you find out. Keep us posted.
I too have truely bricked my captivate. Quite upsetting but I have been wondering about these options as well
Me too, Me too, Mines bricked from bad bootloader, I can't get anything to show up, not even the (phone --- ! --- PC) thing.
Found a forum that people have successfully unbricked with the JTAG, but I have yet to get in touch with any of them to see if I can get them to unbrick mine for me.
If anyone is willing to do this, I'd be willing to pay some $ for it, I don't trust my soldering skills, or I'd buy the JTAG and attempt it myself.
Thanks!
- Greg C.
I was skeptical at first, but when I saw the device itself and its specifications I can believe it does what it says for sure. Would be interested to know how much it costs though. Has anybody inquired as to its cost yet, by chance?
It costs $150 US including delivery. Tempting...
No JIG no JTAG
psyonide said:
Me too, Me too, Mines bricked from bad bootloader, I can't get anything to show up, not even the (phone --- ! --- PC) thing.
Found a forum that people have successfully unbricked with the JTAG, but I have yet to get in touch with any of them to see if I can get them to unbrick mine for me.
If anyone is willing to do this, I'd be willing to pay some $ for it, I don't trust my soldering skills, or I'd buy the JTAG and attempt it myself.
Thanks!
- Greg C.
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I was skeptical at first, but when I saw the device itself and its specifications I can believe it does what it says for sure. Would be interested to know how much it costs though. Has anybody inquired as to its cost yet, by chance?
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You guys don't need JTAG.. If you don't wanna mess around with soldering and Jig, try the method in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889128
Takes a little time but cheap and no soldering or breaking a usb cord required..
Tried that resistor trick, didn't work on my bricked phone, but it did work on my replacement.
I'd love to get my brick working again so my fiancee can have it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
And it does work, there is a JTAG forum that one particular person has unbricked over 20 phones, a few of which were Captivates
Sent from my Captivate
rickysa2000 said:
You guys don't need JTAG.. If you don't wanna mess around with soldering and Jig, try the method in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889128
Takes a little time but cheap and no soldering or breaking a usb cord required..
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Ricky, you think I'd spend $150 if it only fixed Captivates when I can easily fix it with a jig on a soft brick? It advertises that it can unbrick most modern phones including Androids and Iphone. That is tempting, imo.
Cozmo1 said:
Ricky, you think I'd spend $150 if it only fixed Captivates when I can easily fix it with a jig on a soft brick? It advertises that it can unbrick most modern phones including Androids and Iphone. That is tempting, imo.
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If a Jig doesn't fix it, i'd sell my Captivate for parts rather than a JTag
Hey, I'm in Belgium and can unbrick model you want...
Most of cases you do not need a JTAG. You may want to try a jig first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...47234&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_511wt_1139
I own a RIFF BOX!
Hi there!. Any members that are having this same issue please contact me if you need help. I own a RIFF box and have succesfully unbricked several now.
I am in Madison, WI USA. If members need unbricking i will do it for very inexpensive. Cover shipping and a pack of smokes. I own a cell/computer repair business and I am legitimate so no worries there. I can also give anyone the guerst login to our security camerasa if you would like to see the shop our the reassurance you will get your phone back alive and kickin.
Just wanna do something for the forum community that has helped me out so much mastering the Droid world.
So... long story short, I bricked my Nexus One. There is no LED while charging and the phone doesn't boot. I figured if I replace the motherboard, the phone will start functioning again.
From my understanding, HTC charges $196 to replace this piece, which is quite expensive considering I paid $175 for this Nexus. But I found a part on eBay which I think is the motherboard, but I want to make sure before I purchase it.
Attached is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flex-Cable-Ribbon-Membrane-Ribbon-4-HTC-Nexus-One-N1-G5-/260679869783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1bb2557
I would appreciate if anybody can confirm that this is the motherboard and if it will resurrect my phone.
Is your phone out of warranty or something?
pwig said:
Is your phone out of warranty or something?
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I don't believe it is; but would that change anything?
ill give ya 20$
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ill give ya 20$
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Thanks for such generosity; but I'll pass.
JohnnyFeet said:
So... long story short, I bricked my Nexus One. There is no LED while charging and the phone doesn't boot. I figured if I replace the motherboard, the phone will start functioning again.
From my understanding, HTC charges $196 to replace this piece, which is quite expensive considering I paid $175 for this Nexus. But I found a part on eBay which I think is the motherboard, but I want to make sure before I purchase it.
Attached is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flex-Cable-Ribbon-Membrane-Ribbon-4-HTC-Nexus-One-N1-G5-/260679869783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1bb2557
I would appreciate if anybody can confirm that this is the motherboard and if it will resurrect my phone.
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That's just the flex cable NOT the mother board.
baseballfanz said:
That's just the flex cable NOT the mother board.
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Do you know where I can source the motherboard?
I might try buzzing HTC tomorrow for a warranty repair (or swap) for a different issue with the phone. Maybe I can escalate it to the proper person if they give me any problems.
I have searched almost everywhere for it; and it's nowhere to be found.
My options remain:
1) Hope HTC replaces my Nexus for another issue
2) Have HTC replace my motherboard for $196
3) Replace it myself, assuming I can source one
4) JTAG it back to life
5) Sell it in its current state
Do you mind sharing the story of how you bricked it? I'm really interested.
google a method to un brick it. One hacker actually did that already. It might help you.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Do you mind sharing the story of how you bricked it? I'm really interested.
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I unrooted the phone and started proceeding with the respective steps. I just flashed CW recovery and was using it to flash gapps, CM, and a radio image. I then rebooted the phone, but it never turned on.
Now, I have a beautiful non-functioning Nexus One! Does not boot at all, no LED when hooking up to A/C, nothing...
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google a method to un brick it. One hacker actually did that already. It might help you.
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Would you mind sharing the link? The only method, from my understanding, that will un brick the phone is jTAG it.
Well I read the article long ago and don't remember exactly what the name of it is. But one hacker used his usb cable to trick his nexus one to wake up and it was successful.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Update: I called HTC and mentioned a completely unrelated issue, which was a small speck of dust under the screen. I chose the swap option and didn't mention the phone didn't turn on, or was bricked. I just checked the tracking update and it says "service is completed." Checked my card; nothing was charged.
GO HTC! They are the absolute best!
u probably bricked it with the radio update.. did you check the MD5 checksum before u flashed it? And was it even a proper Radio?
You need to be very careful while flashing a radio... it's like flashing a BIOS on a PC.
You should flash it through fastboot and not recovery, it's safer.
Just so you know when you try to do it again.
mkrmec said:
u probably bricked it with the radio update.. did you check the MD5 checksum before u flashed it? And was it even a proper Radio?
You need to be very careful while flashing a radio... it's like flashing a BIOS on a PC.
You should flash it through fastboot and not recovery, it's safer.
Just so you know when you try to do it again.
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Yeah, I think you're right. It probably bricked while flashing the radio. I will not attempt to do this again or will be extremely careful next time...
I have rooted multiple G1s. I think this is my fifth or sixth one and I managed to brick it. The 2708 radio kit I installed via recovery failed and , not paying attention I ran the Hardspl. Boom brick! Stuck on G1 screen.
I was wondering if anyone is still using JTag out there that can unbrick it for me for a price? Its an almost mint G1, hate to give up on it. I also have a spare G1 motherboard, screen, shell, keyboard, and more. myabe we can work something out?
Have you checked in your local area for phone repair shops? It's rare, but sometimes some of them do offer JTag services. I bricked mine as well a couple months ago..looked everywhere and finally found 1 place that offered JTag..I didn't de-brick it because of the cost. Ended up buying the MyTouch 4G.. lol point is..look around, I'm sure there's at least 1 place that might offer what you're looking for.
IF not, you mentioned you have a spare motherboard?? Just swap it out with the one in your phone right now. It'll be..almost..back to where you want it to be..good to go