My XT701 can not use EDGE, only use GPRS. I know many people have the same problem.
you sure? which network?
I thought that some, like AT&T only had edge, no gprs...
they *should* be compatible standards...
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In the past HTC disabled 3G support on the S710 and S730 for use in the US because no US carrier 'supported' this phone. So although both were decent phones we couldn't use them at EDGE speeds.
Does anyone know if the Touch Diamond quad-band model works at 3G speeds with the US AT&T network?
Thanks!
Bill
Oh yes, beautifully.. Better yet, the Diamond is able to use HSDPA with AT&T, which is faster than 3G, as alleged as 3.5G
Mine is working too!
Didn't work at first but I woke up this morning and the E turned into an H.
Thanks for the feedback!!
I bought the unlocked US version from Best Buy, they matched web price, and I had the phone up and running on AT&T very quickly. There is an auto setup for AT&T users. Solid performance, H in my area, auto changes elsewhere.
It can beat my home dsl speeds while tethering when I am on the road. That rocks pretty hard imo. Just be aware that the euro version of the diamond which can be found on the internet and in the used market cannot be flashed to light up the US 3G freqs, it really is a hardware issue.
Does anyone know if this will also work with T-Mobiles 3G network or is the frequency on this phone not capable? I want to check before I bite the bullet on picking one up. Thanks!
Unfortunatly, it won't due to different bandwidth. AT&T uses UMTS 850/1900, whereas T-Mobile uses 1700. More details can be found in "US 3G First Look" in this thread.
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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trippster said:
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
The T-Mobile you refer to is European
It does not run on the same 3G as the US T-Mobile. The US T-Mobile uses 1700 Mhz and 2100 Mhz, I believe. The Tilt does not use the 1700 Mhz band. There was a rumor going around that there would be a new version of the Kaiser (KAIS140) that would use the US T-Mobile 3G bands but it was never released for sale. I don't think it will since it is pretty much at the end of the life cycle of the phone. They (HTC) have moved on to newer models with more features. If you would like to use the US 3G and live in an area with 3G, The T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) uses T-Mo 3G and has its own section on this forum.
bleh. newer models should still freaking tilt. that is the coolest thing about this phone. and it's pretty solid construction. my friend has had his over a year and its still going strong.
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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True but T-Mobile uses the 1700 for upload and 2100 for download. ATT uses 1900 for both.
since the tilt is 3g, if i unlock it and use it on Tmobile does it still pick up tmobiles 3g or is it different? thanks alot
It won't grab T-Mo's 3G. The Tilt can find "standard" 3G, in the 1900 band, but T-Mo's runs on the 1700 band. There's a hardware difference as well dealing with the radio.
Basically, you'd be stuck on EDGE, like the rest of us Tilt users are.
ya i thought they were different thanks alot for the fast reply
I've searched google many times and still cannot find a clear answer on how T-mobile's HSPA+(aka 4g) works. If anyone could help me understand how this works I think many people including myself would appreciate it, and also is there anyway these Android phones can be hacked to upgrade as the networks upgrades. For example the G2 and Mytouch 4g have been branded as 4g yet they are not as fast as the Galaxy S running the 21MBps capability. I dont understand the technology let alone marketing on this. Is it UMTS, LTE, or HSPA+? I have found no good articles that really know what they are talking about. Im just curious so I as the consumer know what I'm paying for. Anyone can say 3g or 4g but it seems mysterious that these phones just happen to only be able to use only 14.4mbps vs the galaxy s uses 21mpbs. Along these lines is the new Voip technology. Some say you can do it and I here other places that the phone needs specific hardware to use. Is it just me or does there seem to be a hugeee breakdown in information be released that is relevant from the carrier to the consumer encompassing plans, network, and phones. Sorry if this seems to be off topic or all over, but my main question is on the "Galaxy S". I am just trying to figure out how we are supposed to figure out if a phone says HSPA+ and the frequency says 1700/2100, how fast it actually is.
1. wrong section
2. att's/tmobiles 4g is simply a faster version of 3g aka hspa+, real 4g is lte advanced which nobody has.
I have a US T-mobile Galaxy Tab which was officially unlocked by T-Mobile.
I took a data plan with ATT, but I am only getting Edge, no 3G
Doing some research I read that T-Mobile uses a different 3G than ATT therefore the issue I guess.
My question: Is there a way to configure the T-Mobile Tab so that it can Connect to ATT 3G or is there a Hardware impossibility?
Apreciate the help
scrambler3 said:
I have a US T-mobile Galaxy Tab which was officially unlocked by T-Mobile.
I took a data plan with ATT, but I am only getting Edge, no 3G
Doing some research I read that T-Mobile uses a different 3G than ATT therefore the issue I guess.
My question: Is there a way to configure the T-Mobile Tab so that it can Connect to ATT 3G or is there a Hardware impossibility?
Apreciate the help
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Hardware limited, unfortunately. T-Mobile uses 1700mhz, whereas AT&T uses 850mhz and 1900mhz for 3G
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Thanks, its a bummer as their data plans are more interesting for me ...
May be if they merge they will straighten things out in the plans. One can dream
Look in the dev section, rotohammer has a modem switcher, which gives 2G+voice or just 3G alone.
There is a bounty searching for a cook to work on the modem.bin for us, but no takers.
Look at the Dev section or get an ATT Mobile Hotspot and share the conection thru wi-fi to the tab, the only bad side of doing that is that you can't use Gps navegation
Thanks all.
Dont realy want to go the custom rom yet as I may not keep the tab (waiting for newer models).
So I'll see how good or bad it is on ATT Edge, and switch to Tmobile 3G if it is really bad.
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Hardware limited, unfortunately. T-Mobile uses 1700mhz, whereas AT&T uses 850mhz and 1900mhz for 3G
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I thought that the SGT used software defined radio (baseband) for it's cellular modem and therefor isn't it possible to flash the at&t modem.bin onto the SGT and take advantage of at&t's 3g services (with the appropriate frequencies)?
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isn't it possible to flash the at&t modem.bin onto the SGT and take advantage of at&t's 3g services (with the appropriate frequencies)?
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nope, which is why I thought the AT&T Gtab to be the most desireable, as it can do AT&T 3G plans, but also take advantage of Tmo's $1.49/day DayPass (EDGE only). The Tmo Gtab cannot use the DayPass (Tmo has locked it out).