I've been a WM fan for years but recently a friend got the Droid on Verizon's network and I got to play with it and really liked it.
I know I can get an Euro Milestone but don't want to give up 3G speeds here in the US.
Are there any talks of getting this phone or the new updated one on TMO?
forget it man in US if you want to buy a motorola droid the only way is verizon
Yeah, it's basically Verizon's version of the iPhone (since when they released it/a short while before they released it it they made all the comments on how the Droid could do so and so and the iPhone couldn't do so and so (which of course since it's the iPhone, there's quite a few things it won't do that the droid will xD) so it's Verizon's major competition with the iPhone), chances are they won't give it up. T-Mobile gets the Nexus one though, which is a fantastic phone (with the exception of the lack of a keyboard, but you'll get used to a touch screen keyboard after a while).
hiu guys i have a question qith so many phones out there and so many OS mobile platforms, i would like to know: first of all im currently with T-Mobile US Prepaid Iphone 4.0.1 Jailbroken and unlocked
i would like to know should i stay with T-Mo and get an android phone with them, or get the EVO 4G and go with Sprint?
what do you guys think cause i want a fast and reliable phone
thanks in advanced
Depends on where you live. If Sprint is faster and more reliable in your area go with that, and vice versa.
Now if you are in NYC, then thats a whole different story because all the carriers here suck. lol
Evo? You mean that phone that they cloned after our beloved HD2 that we had in 2009? In your case since your on TMoUS I say you get MT4G or G2. Its almost same so see which you like as G2 has keyboard, also stay away from SamSUX device like old.Vibrant 4G or Nexus S.
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Yep, G2 is awesome, and I'm unlocked on AT&T. lol
I'd rather an EVO 4G,
Does anyone have a feel yet for how much Verizon dogged down the Droid 3 with bloatware, bad hardware decisions, and/or just generally screwed up the specs from what Motorola originally intended it to be...?
For instance:
- is the GPS locked so Google Maps can't access it?
- is there Crapware that I won't want yet won't be able to uninstall?
- can't make it a hotspot?
- can't tether it without fees or 3rd-party software?
- are there other things Verizon has "branded" that will make me crazy(er)?
Should I hold out for an unlocked version on Ebay, or go for the one from Verizon and unlock it myself..?
Or...is the locked version kinda ok enough to deal with that unlocking it isn't worth it?
Thanks.
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Ok so as about what you asked here is what i see on my system.
There is some verizon apps preinstalled that cant be removed
V Cast Media Manager
V Cast Music
V Cast Tones
V Cast Videos
VZ Navigator.
they do not however seem to bog the system down at all.
it can be a hotspot but until rooted you will have to pay for it i assume. I never use this feature so not sure how all that works
I would also say you cant tether it without the verizon software to do so but again i do not use that feature
Maps uses GPS just fine, i have never heard of moto blocking the GPS from google maps before.
I personally think it is a great phone. i have hated the last couple versions of blur but this one i could live with just would like to have root to remove some of the verizon stuff. The system is snappy i think if you could get a staight vanilla rom like apex it would be even faster but i have yet to see the system lag or force close anything.
I would also be willing to bet someone will find a way to root it in the next couple weeks.
I would get it but just my opinion
XT860?
It looks like there will be a Canadian version on Bell in a few weeks too.
I'm in the UK, and all reports suggest that the Milestone 3 (as presumably it would be called) isn't getting a UK release, so I'm looking at all these other international models and am wondering which would be most appropriate.
My assumptions so far are:
1. Droid 3 is primarily CDMA, and although it has some GSM capability, I'm not sure that it's going to work terribly well in the UK.
2. The XT883 (Chinese Milestone 3) is primarily CDMA too, and will also potentially suffer from language issues, and also things like inability to access the Android market?
3. The XT860 from Bell might be a contender - I think I'm right in saying that Bell operate a GSM network, and obviously the phone will be in English/French out of the box.
I guess the hardest part will be making sure the device is unlocked, i.e. not tied to a network, and will operate in the UK before buying one from abroad.
Does anybody have any thoughts?
Cheers,
Steve.
The Canadians get the XT860 Motorola Milestone 3 4G, or should we say Faux G since its not 4G and everyone knows it.
Unlocking the Droid 3 is a *****, If you do not have account with them it is near impossible all the codes only do not work since the phone goes to a subsidy mode.
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With locked bootloaders on Motorola/Verizon devices, what implications does this have for customers/xda-community?
Thinking about switching to Verizon and getting a Motorola phone but I'm not sure what having a locked bootloader really means and what implications it has for us.
Does this prevent custom rom development? Can it eventually be easily unlocked?
It essentially limits how much a rom can be customized and prevents the use of custom kernals. In general, it does restrict development for the device.
If the bootloader does get unlocked somehow, there will probably be an easy way for the end user to do it.... the problem is getting it unlocked in the first place. It's not impossible, but it definitely is not an easy task.
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It essentially limits how much a rom can be customized and prevents the use of custom kernals. In general, it does restrict development for the device.
If the bootloader does get unlocked somehow, there will probably be an easy way for the end user to do it.... the problem is getting it unlocked in the first place. It's not impossible, but it definitely is not an easy task.
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Got it.
So have you guys been able to get the bootloader on Bionic unlocked?
I'm really thinking about switching to Verizon, and Bionic & Razr were two phones I was looking at, but the locked bootloader has me a little worried.
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Got it.
So have you guys been able to get the bootloader on Bionic unlocked?
I'm really thinking about switching to Verizon, and Bionic & Razr were two phones I was looking at, but the locked bootloader has me a little worried.
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I have the Bionic and have been able to flash pretty much anything I want. Only thing we're missing is a custom kernel, but the thing is so snappy stock that you don't really need it.
I'm running Liberty right now and it's wicked quick and the themes are pretty cool too. I was even able to change my boot image from the Droid stock to The Matrix. If your wanting to root right now then Bionic is awesome, but you probably won't have to wait very long for the Razr to be rootable as well. Just personal preference I suppose.
Good luck with your decision to switch, but if you are going to I refer you to this post.
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I have the Bionic and have been able to flash pretty much anything I want. Only thing we're missing is a custom kernel, but the thing is so snappy stock that you don't really need it.
I'm running Liberty right now and it's wicked quick and the themes are pretty cool too. I was even able to change my boot image from the Droid stock to The Matrix. If your wanting to root right now then Bionic is awesome, but you probably won't have to wait very long for the Razr to be rootable as well. Just personal preference I suppose.
Good luck with your decision to switch, but if you are going to I refer you to this post.
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Thanks. I just wish that 4gb promotion would still be around when the Galaxy Nexus comes around. I'm considering that phone also, but I don't like that it doesn't have a microsd slot.
If verizon doesn't support voice and data at the same time, does that mean you can't use Google Navigation in your car at the same time while talking on the phone? That might be a reason I don't switch to Verizon. I like having navigation running on the screen while I'm on the phone.
An unlocked bootloader is nice but not necessary. I went from a Droid X (locked bootloader) to a thunderbolt (better specs and an unlocked bootloader) and my X was just as fast with better battery life. Now I have a bionic and its great, the only issue for me is the screen.
I've found phones with unlocked boot loaders seem to stand a test of time, more Dev's work on them, and when more dev's work on them, the higher value (IMHO)... My D1 was/is awesome, the only reason I upgraded was for the 4G finally coming to VA.
The Nexus is DEFINITELY going to be the next big thing, zero doubt in my mind. Hell, its not even out and its already been rooted. Samsung products (although cheap feeling) are always pretty open.
what about data and talk at the same time on verizon?
My other concern is about the Verizon network itself.
Using Google Navigation/maps requires constant data stream for the directions and map tiles, re-routing, etc.
If Verizon doesn't have voice/data at the same time, does that mean if you are in your car talking on bluetooth, google nav won't run correctly in the background because of no data network access?
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My other concern is about the Verizon network itself.
Using Google Navigation/maps requires constant data stream for the directions and map tiles, re-routing, etc.
If Verizon doesn't have voice/data at the same time, does that mean if you are in your car talking on bluetooth, google nav won't run correctly in the background because of no data network access?
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If you are on 4G, data and calls work at the same time. I think the thunderbolt is the only phone to have the dual 3G radios allowing it to do both on 3G, but then again I have not tried with my bionic. I am always in a 4G area.
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If you are on 4G, data and calls work at the same time. I think the thunderbolt is the only phone to have the dual 3G radios allowing it to do both on 3G, but then again I have not tried with my bionic. I am always in a 4G area.
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Oh really...on Verizon 4G LTE you can have voice and data at the same time? I didn't know! Great!
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Thanks. I just wish that 4gb promotion would still be around when the Galaxy Nexus comes around. I'm considering that phone also, but I don't like that it doesn't have a microsd slot.
If verizon doesn't support voice and data at the same time, does that mean you can't use Google Navigation in your car at the same time while talking on the phone? That might be a reason I don't switch to Verizon. I like having navigation running on the screen while I'm on the phone.
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confused...bionic.. On vzw obviously... I can talk and use data all day? What you Talkin about willis!!
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What he's talking about is Simultaneous Voice Data Optimized or SVDO for short. SVDO is the ability to do voice and data at the same time. This is not a problem for a Verizon 4G phone as long as you're on a 4G network. The game changes if you're on a Verizon 3G network though. To my knowledge the HTC Thunderbolt is the only Verzion phone that can do SVDO on the 3G network. This feat takes a special antenna and radio setup that is unique to the Thunderbolt.
You may recall many of the AT&T commercials that boasted the AT&T iPhone was the only iPhone where you could talk and browse the web at the same time. They were able to say that because the Verizon iPhone was not capable of SVDO over 3G.
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I have the Bionic and have been able to flash pretty much anything I want. Only thing we're missing is a custom kernel, but the thing is so snappy stock that you don't really need it.
I'm running Liberty right now and it's wicked quick and the themes are pretty cool too. I was even able to change my boot image from the Droid stock to The Matrix. If your wanting to root right now then Bionic is awesome, but you probably won't have to wait very long for the Razr to be rootable as well. Just personal preference I suppose.
Good luck with your decision to switch, but if you are going to I refer you to this post.
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Will miui come to this phone
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Actually, in a 3G scenario, once you start the navigator you can talk all you want and still navigate. The only time it needs to pull data is if you miss a turn and need to re-route.
Personally I want to see CM9 on the Bionic asap. While I (sadly) prefer the "Motorola Enhancements" to stock Gingerbread, I think I will prefer stock Ice Cream Sandwich from the looks of it.
Hopefully we see it sooner as opposed to later.
Just wait for the Galaxy Nexus
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I would wait, being unlocked diff. limits the device, biggest thing personally is the ability to overclock the device, I speed this thing would diff fly as dual core and has the potential but with no unlocked bootloader to run custom kernel it sucks
So, I'm on tmobile, ad want to switch because it's too expensive for a phone I don't like that much (Mytouch 4g slide; crappy keyboard, sense infected 2.3, glitchy, etc.) I was thinking of witching to Boost mobile because they are cheaper, and have the Samsung transform Ultra, which despite being "low end" works great software wise and is stock, good keyboard, I know this from experience.
But then i thought about the Droid 4. I might be able to stomach the capacitive front keys (maybe) and its pretty high end. so I figure i'd try it, but I see it's GSM is not unlocked for US GSM carriers yet. but i wonder, would it be possible to unlock for Boost? that's a Sprint subsidiary, if that helps.
Also, Looking up info, I see there's supposed to be an international GSM version coming out, the XT898, announced a few months ago but nothing else announced yet that i've seen. anyone know about that?
P.S. does the mobile Chrome browser work on the Droid 4? It works on My iconia tab but not my 4g slide, so I figure it's an issue with the firmware version.
*edit* meant to say "this phone" in the title. damn arthritis. this is why I need a better keyboard.
Seems like some folks have been able to move Verizon CDMA phones to Sprint's network in the past. Have no idea how difficult that would be for the D4.
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