Well I did google, I always here people talking about JfV and whatnot, but I can't seem to find a definitive resource letting me know exactly what it is and what it does? I know where to find it and see the instructions on how to install it, but noone seems to ever say what it has/does.
Another question I have is about auto starting apps. On Android, is it possible for me to set an app to auto start when i boot my device? this would be useful for some of the apps i use like Hello IM, twidroid, email, etc. I don't post much here but I'm hoping you guys can help me out and get me settled with Android and the G1. Thanks
- Q
The JesusFreke builds are edits of the official builds with root access along with a couple of useful applications like a terminal. Root lets you take advantage of some things like tethering and gives you control to edit and break your phone at your hearts desire.
Autostart seems to be app specific. My weather app autostarts and stays in the background but others don't. Not sure how to make them do it but maybe someone else know.
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welcome. JF's modified roms also add auto rotate for your browser and multi-touch which is nifty.
Lite Glossary...
I've seen a lot of questions like this and I vaguely remember someone trying to give a quick explanation in another thread but I couldn't find it.
So here's my attempt to clear some things up based on terminology.
Android OS - Like Windows Mobile but based on Linux, using a Java based front end.
Linux - Open Source operating system used instead of Windows XP/Vista, Mac OSX etc... it's free (as in beer).
Root (as in access)- root is like the administrator account on a windows machine. It allows you to have complete access to the underlying OS of a linux or *nix based machine.
Root (as in location)- the 'root' of a folder or drive is the top most area of that location. In windows, C:\ is the 'root' of your hard drive. The 'root' of your SD card just means you haven't moved into any subfolders.
JFV1.## - Is a specific Version of a JesusFreke ROM. JesusFreke is a developer on this website that has graciously spent his time to modify the G1 OS to allow us to have root access to our phones. This gives us the ability to explore and modify our phones via a command line. It allows for the use of themes, native backup functionality, manually selecting which apps can utilize root access, auto-rotate screen, multi-touch in browser, moving applications/caches to the sd card and I'm sure some other things I'm forgetting.
That's all I can think of right now. Maybe I'll add more later.
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I've seen a lot of questions like this and I vaguely remember someone trying to give a quick explanation in another thread but I couldn't find it.
So here's my attempt to clear some things up based on terminology.
Android OS - Like Windows Mobile but based on Linux, using a Java based front end.
Linux - Open Source operating system used instead of Windows XP/Vista, Mac OSX etc... it's free (as in beer).
Root (as in access)- root is like the administrator account on a windows machine. It allows you to have complete access to the underlying OS of a linux or *nix based machine.
Root (as in location)- the 'root' of a folder or drive is the top most area of that location. In windows, C:\ is the 'root' of your hard drive. The 'root' of your SD card just means you haven't moved into any subfolders.
JFV1.## - Is a specific Version of a JesusFreke ROM. JesusFreke is a developer on this website that has graciously spent his time to modify the G1 OS to allow us to have root access to our phones. This gives us the ability to explore and modify our phones via a command line. It allows for the use of themes, native backup functionality, manually selecting which apps can utilize root access, auto-rotate screen, multi-touch in browser, moving applications/caches to the sd card and I'm sure some other things I'm forgetting.
That's all I can think of right now. Maybe I'll add more later.
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Thanks a lot for the nice overview! I'm going to go ahead and do my G1 first thing in the morning (I don't wanna do it at night while I'm a tired mess and end up bricking it ) The auto-rotate is something I wished the G1 had. Does the autorotate in JesusFreke's rom go multiple directions? or is it just the 2 directions like on the default android rom?
And does it work for every app at all times? I know that the functionality exists in the phone as one of my apps implements the auto rotate feature, as well as several games in the android market that utilizes the accelerometer for gameplay. Would be cool to be able to roate my phone at any time using any app (espcially the browser). Thanks for any more help. And I already head RC33. Does that mean I have to downgrade or has an easier method arisen for RC33?
JF's roms V1.41 and up have autorotate in the browser. DroidSans has the app for root users that impliments autorotate for the rest of the phone except your stock picture viewer. both rotate to the same landscape direction like when you open the keyboard.
Don't forget the ability to move apps to your SD card
No, the auto-rotate only goes landscape like 13bjunkie said and he is also right that you need to download DroidSansTweak to actually activate the feature, accept for the browser (once you have root, of course).
It doesn't work on all apps at all times. Apps/games can disable the feature.
You will have to downgrade to RC29 still... Just follow the sticky in the development forum and you can't go wrong. Just follow it to the letter or all bets are off.
I have an actual WP8 device that I've backed up to skydrive (contacts and sms). I would like to be able to pull that down into the WP8 emulator which I have installed and running fine.
Am I correct in that you can only restore a WP8 from skydrive backup on the first cold boot after a reset?
When I try to reset the emulated phone via the Settings/About page, the emulated phone shuts down and restarts, but hangs when it restarts.
1. Is there a way to get the emulated phone to restore from skydrive without doing a full reset?
2. Is there a way to make the emulated phone do a full reset and bring up the initial first boot screens so I get the restore options?
Thank you.
The Emulator does not support setting a Microsoft-Account which also means that SkyDrive access, Backups or Marketplace Downloads don't work.
Well.. That's unfortunate.
No way to mount the flash and hack on a xml/etc file? Also, I was mistaken about the emulated phone hanging on restart after the reset. It does come back up after about 5 minutes. and I very briefly see some text on the screen right before the windows start screen, but it flashes by so quick I can't make it out. It looks like it may be the initial welcome information, and the emulator is automagically bypassing it?
The emulator can't do anything other than eating away at your resources and fool new developers into buying new hardware to support hyper V. The only useful thing you can do with them is check how the layout looks under different resolutions.
When you re/start it, you need to have the entire OS image do a complete OS boot. It takes so long because it is emulated (obviously, on a phone is a lot faster). It also uses different architectures (x86 compared to ARM on actual devices)
As I said, you can't do anything useful with it other than basic stuff like UI interaction and UI display.
Ehh I dunno about new hardware. Runs just fine on my i7 windows 7 gaming machine in a win8 vm in vmware
But yeah, completely ridiculous that it needs hyper-v and win8.
Hmm probably worthy of a different post, but do you know of a way to pull backed up sms from skydrive onto a PC?
As Long as you don't work with the Camera of NFC the Emulator actually works quite well. You can also simulate bad Network connectivity and so on which you can't do properly on the phone. The UI sometimes seems rather slow in the Emulator but actually it does outperform the phone quite a lot with CPU bound code (at least on my Core i7). Having Multitouch Support implemented in the Emulator is also a nice Addition.
I don't know of any way to Access the SkyDrive backup from anywhere but an actual device.
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As Long as you don't work with the Camera of NFC the Emulator actually works quite well. You can also simulate bad Network connectivity and so on which you can't do properly on the phone. The UI sometimes seems rather slow in the Emulator but actually it does outperform the phone quite a lot with CPU bound code (at least on my Core i7). Having Multitouch Support implemented in the Emulator is also a nice Addition.
I don't know of any way to Access the SkyDrive backup from anywhere but an actual device.
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You forgot SD cards, media elements, any sort of audio playback, umm...well thats about it xD
I just download windows phone application and game (*.XAP) from some website, but how to install it to my Nokia Lumia 920?
anyone know please help :angel:
regards,
dane
If you downloaded it from windowsphone.com, you can't install it because you need a MicroSD slot....
If you downloaded it from a "questionable" site, this is not a place to talk about it but, you need a dev unlocked phone and install the dev kit (needs Windows 8) to be able to install it..
Talking about pirated software here is a good way to get yourself banned so watch it.
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If you downloaded it from windowsphone.com, you can't install it because you need a MicroSD slot....
If you downloaded it from a "questionable" site, this is not a place to talk about it but, you need a dev unlocked phone and install the dev kit (needs Windows 8) to be able to install it..
Talking about pirated software here is a good way to get yourself banned so watch it.
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Thanks DavidinCT,
Nokia Lumia 920 doesn't have the card slot, so how can i install (.XAP) files that i download from windowsphone.com?
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Thanks DavidinCT,
Nokia Lumia 920 doesn't have the card slot, so how can i install (.XAP) files that i download from windowsphone.com?
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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thanks again!! DavidinCT,
"the only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit", could you show me to do it?
it was hard to download the big game from the phone, it seem like the "resume" of windowsphone doesn't work properly.
thanks,
You can't install XAP-Files downloaded from the Store using a developer unlock. They get encrypted when being put into the Store and developer deployment only works with XAP files that are unencrypted (which you get when building Apps yourself).
So basically: you can only download from the PC and install using a SD Card. Or download and install directly on the phone. Everything else only works for Homebrew Software or for stuff you have developed yourself.
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You can't install XAP-Files downloaded from the Store using a developer unlock. They get encrypted when being put into the Store and developer deployment only works with XAP files that are unencrypted (which you get when building Apps yourself).
So basically: you can only download from the PC and install using a SD Card. Or download and install directly on the phone. Everything else only works for Homebrew Software or for stuff you have developed yourself.
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Y'all telling me that if I get my hands on a Developer Edition Lumia 920 I can install XAPs via the Windows Phone SDK's Application Deployment for Windows Phone 8? I use the hell out of that on my HD2 and Titan (HSPL).
@berrywr: There's no such thing as a "Developer Edition" Lumia 920 (or any other phone) that I'm aware of; it's just a matter of using the official Developer Unlock feature on Windows Phone (which is done using the "Windows Phone Developer Registration" utility installed with the SDK, but requires having a developer account with Microsoft, sometimes called an AppHub account). Once you have the phone dev-unlocked, you can install .XAPs using Application Deployment, yes.
However, bear in mind that the vast majority of WP7 homebrew is completely non-functional on WP8. The internals of the OS are too different. WP8 is even more locked down than WP7 (much, much more locked down than on a custom ROM such as the HD2 uses to run WP7) and we haven't broken that yet.
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@berrywr: There's no such thing as a "Developer Edition" Lumia 920 (or any other phone) that I'm aware of; it's just a matter of using the official Developer Unlock feature on Windows Phone (which is done using the "Windows Phone Developer Registration" utility installed with the SDK, but requires having a developer account with Microsoft, sometimes called an AppHub account). Once you have the phone dev-unlocked, you can install .XAPs using Application Deployment, yes.
However, bear in mind that the vast majority of WP7 homebrew is completely non-functional on WP8. The internals of the OS are too different. WP8 is even more locked down than WP7 (much, much more locked down than on a custom ROM such as the HD2 uses to run WP7) and we haven't broken that yet.
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@GoodDayToDie This is why I like to take my time before jumping all in with a new smart phone; homework! Is the Windows Phone Development Center the same entity as what use to be the AppHub? I see from their website they're offering an annual subscription to WPDC for $19 until August 27, 2013. My memory serves me correct it use to be $99 unless you had a student (.edu) email address which I do coincidentally have...was for Windows Phone 7.x Since my Titans are HSPL I never had a need for it. So what is being advertised around the web as a Developer Edition is not necessarily bootloader unlocked it simply means pentaband or for example you can go to a Canadagsm.ca and get the same thing for about $400 US; yes? Thanks!
I have a Lumia 720 ....it has SD card option....so can anyone tell me how to install apps from SD card ??
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@berrywr: You're correct. The $19 account will get you a 1-year Dev Center account (same as AppHub) and that will allow you to dev-unlock your phone and sideload XAPs. You can certainly try using the school account, and it may work and save money, but historically school accounts were relatively locked down by comparison (maximum of three sideloaded apps at once, which was relaxed but nore removed for paid accounts).
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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I'm in the same boat, I have removable SD card and I cant install apps off it on my Nokia.
@orbitalschool: Did you even read the post you claim to be "in the same boat" as? I don't think you did, because if you *have* a microSD slot, then you are explicitly *not* in DavidinCT's boat.
In any case, the "install apps from SD card" is for marketplace apps that you downloaded using a PC, to save phone bandwidth. Nothing more, nothing less (well, It might work for enterprise apps too, but you can just email those to yourself or send them via Bluetooth). You still need a valid license to install apps that way, too. Homebrew apps can be installed using the dev tools. Pirated apps can't be installed at all, generally speaking, though that (and the fact that asking about it is against the forum rules) hasn't stopped people from complaining that it's not working...
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@orbitalschool: Did you even read the post you claim to be "in the same boat" as? I don't think you did, because if you *have* a microSD slot, then you are explicitly *not* in DavidinCT's boat.
In any case, the "install apps from SD card" is for marketplace apps that you downloaded using a PC, to save phone bandwidth. Nothing more, nothing less (well, It might work for enterprise apps too, but you can just email those to yourself or send them via Bluetooth). You still need a valid license to install apps that way, too. Homebrew apps can be installed using the dev tools. Pirated apps can't be installed at all, generally speaking, though that (and the fact that asking about it is against the forum rules) hasn't stopped people from complaining that it's not working...
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The Apps, I downloaded manually from Microsoft site. Put them on the SD card. I re-factory set the phone, as wp8 started downloading my hotmail emails and I didn't know how to uninstall or turn that function off. Every question is easy if you know the answer, I had no idea you could send apps to the phone via bluetooth, thanks for the info.
Its all irrelevant now, I put two tutorial.avi videos on the SD card. Phone wouldn't play them, I'm sure more knowledgeable people could easily rectify this, I tried a SD avi player app but couldn't get that to work, I must admit I really liked the Nokia 820, butter smooth and looks and feels great...Its just been repacked as I'm sending it back. Such a shame as I can do everything I want on my HTC wm6.5....so wp8 for me is going backwards.
orbitalschool said:
The Apps, I downloaded manually from Microsoft site. Put them on the SD card. I re-factory set the phone, as wp8 started downloading my hotmail emails and I didn't know how to uninstall or turn that function off. Every question is easy if you know the answer, I had no idea you could send apps to the phone via bluetooth, thanks for the info.
Its all irrelevant now, I put two tutorial.avi videos on the SD card. Phone wouldn't play them, I'm sure more knowledgeable people could easily rectify this, I tried a SD avi player app but couldn't get that to work, I must admit I really liked the Nokia 820, butter smooth and looks and feels great...Its just been repacked as I'm sending it back. Such a shame as I can do everything I want on my HTC wm6.5....so wp8 for me is going backwards.
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you can dev-unlock the phone with the studio 2013 preview for free.
sireangelus said:
you can dev-unlock the phone with the studio 2013 preview for free.
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Thanks, at the moment I'm new phoneless.
Let me adjust me tin hat, my frustrations as a not very technology minded person; I just want things to flow. I don’t want to feel everything I do is governed by big business. On my wm device, select file explorer, find app, install and watch avi. WP8…???
Here is the legal way to do this
All you need to do is follow these steps:
tiptotrick.net/install-apps-on-windows-phone-8-for-free
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All you need to do is follow these steps:
tiptotrick.net/install-apps-on-windows-phone-8-for-free
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And all what you say, is written here. :laugh:
Unlock using Devkit may void our windows phone warranty.Is this true?
installing through sd card is not successful.WHERE TO COPY XAP FILE IN SD CARD ?File is not showing in phone file manager to install.Help?
i intend to run lumia 535 on my laptop can anyone guide me and give me the required details
I'm tempted to start this comment with a snarky suggestion about seeing your psychiatrist... The short version is that what you are asking for is not really possible. First of all, nearly all phones (including Lumias) run on an ARM processor, which executes ARM instructions; PCs run on x86/AMD64 processors, which execute x86 instructions. The two are completely incompatible; the CPU in a computer will have no idea how to execute code from a phone ROM. Next, phone ROMs are carefully customized for their target platforms, and don't include drivers for anything not present on the phone in question (this saves storage space and boot time, among other advantages); even if you could get the OS to begin booting, it wouldn't know how to drive your PC's display, or read from its USB ports or touchscreen (if it has one), or access its network card, or... you get the idea. There are probably other issues you'd run into, but those should be quite enough to demonstrate the problem.
Now, if you just want to test out WP8 apps and make sure web sites will render correctly on a Lumia 535, you can do that using the WP8/WP8.1 emulator that comes with the Windows Phone Development Kit (free download from Microsoft via http://msdn.com). The emulator is actually running x86 code, nor ARM code, so it runs at native speed on a PC, and it's only *most* of the WP8 OS (some stuff, like the ability to download Store apps, is missing), but it works well enough for the purposes it's intended for. If you just want to run WP8.x apps on your PC (the way Bluestacks lets you do with Android apps), you may need to wait for Windows 10; Windows 8.1 can run PC/tablet *versions* of some recent WP8 apps (and if you buy the app on either platform, you can access it on both) but most phone apps, especially the older ones, don't have a PC/tablet version yet.
Doesnt he mean project my screen?
Then he just need to download this aplication
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1GzY4evB5M