Running CM6-RC1, and in areas with weak signal, my phone will say "emergency calls only" and have full bar strength and no data connection. Does this mean its connecting to a different provider's cell tower for purely emergency call purposes and showing that signal strength?
I would actually like to know this as well. I noticed this earlier today hadn't happened before. That is what I think it is because Telus does have better reception in this area.
That's exactly it. When you lose signal with your regular network the phone will find the next best, but unless you have a roaming agreement all you can make are Emergency Calls.
Slightly annoying when you don't have the network name visable for most of the time. Would rather have an alt icon.
I have this same issue too. However, I need to reboot my device in order for it to work normally again, it does not appear to automatically re-connect to my network, even though it has signal, unless i restart the device.
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I sometimes get a triangle icon in the taskbar, next to the E / 3G icon.
Any idea what it means?
I cannot click it ... or better: nothing happens.
This is the Roaming indicator.
Mmmmh.
And why am I seeing this in Beverly Hills and the network is "AT&T"?
call up AT-T and ask lol.. But that is the roaming Icon sometimes phoines will pick the closest tower to use since it has the best signal and just maybe t-mobile owns that tower Only AT-T will know.
Not an isolated problem
I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.
you are picking up T-Mobile. AT&T users can still use T-Mobile towers currently as a result of the deal they made when AT&T (Cingular) sold them the 310-170 network in CA/NV. (its now properly renamed to 310-260 by TMO)
the phone's alpha tag says AT&T regardless of what carrier's network you're on when you're roaming. unless you have the 4EON code applied to your account, in which case it would say Off Network when on non AT&T towers.
any idea how I can fix this?
I am fine with it roaming if there is indeed not 3G network but my issue is that it doesn't drop the roaming as soon as it could.
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I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.
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I have the same issue - sometimes I have "3G Telstra" (no roaming symbol, and will use HSDPA if needed) and other times I have "3 Telstra" and the roaming symbol displaying. One thing - as I understand it, you are not 'dropping back to HSDPA' - this is actually a service that is on top of the 3G networks, and provides greater download speeds.
I checked with my Telstra reseller who said that this would not change the call rates or data rates. Not sure what causes this though...
Have put this question on Whirlpool as well: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=846691#bottom
Telstra
I have the same issue on Telstra. Hope a new ROM fixes this.
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Hmmm, I hate it when stupid people post garbage about which they know little. Problem is, this time the stupid person was me!
The 3G symbol shows the phone is within range of a UMTS signal. The H symbol means it is in range of a HSDPA signal, the high speed data version of UMTS so "H" is better than "3G". Oops, so my phone was roaming to a better signal.
This roaming issue appears to only affect a small number of people whose service providers have a crossover deal with another provider. This appears to apply to those with the AT&T/T-Mobile crossover in the US and here in Oz where the phone will pick up either the Telstra Next G network (UMTS 850Mhz, shown as 3G Telstra) or, in big cities, the Hutchinson "3" Network, (UMTS 2100Mhz with HSDPA, shown as 3 Telstra). I was uncertain about this as I never saw the roaming symbol with my Dopod 810, which always showed 3G Telstra. I think the TyTN II, like the original TyTN, has some different software seetings which means that the phone will try the "3 Telstra" network when it can, and this shows as roaming, whereas my D810 either didn't roam to 3 Telstra, or, if it did it didn't show it as roaming. In any case, it's not actually a problem, and as Telstra have indicated, it makes no difference to the data/call rates. I'm chilled on this. Now if they can fix the "hang-up" bug...
I've been wondering about the elongated triangle pointing up too. I have very poor/no reception in my office at work... though sometimes enough to get a voicemail notification (not enough to be able to call and check, usually don't have a missed-call notification).
I'd thought it might have to do with being connected to Active Sync. Sure would be smart if the phone could get notifications of even calls over an alternative data connection when the cellular couldn't connect... even if ATT charged regular minutes for it would be so much better than no signal, period.
I'm having this issue for some reason on my second Tilt that has been sent to me. The first doesn't show it at all but the second does. I don't understand what its doing.
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Hi all, I'm wanting to know if anyone else seems to be experiencing an issue where during a call the signal icon will change from H to G and the quality of reception / voice also drops to what resembles a non-3G phone.
This seems to happen quite often regardless if the call is inbound or outbound. I can be sitting at my desk and have what appears to be full reception with the H icon, then 2-3 minutes into a call (still sitting at my desk) the icon will change to G and from the quality degradation it must be reducing to 2G... why is this? I could understand if I was walking around but it happens regardless and will never go back up to H during a call only once the call has ended... is this a limitation of the cell network/carrier?
I'm using Dutty's v4, radio 1.09.25.23, Olinex 1.93 hardspl. Network carrier is Optus and I'm located right in the middle of the city - Melbourne, Australia.
I'm wanting to try some of the newer Raphel radios but need to get Security Unlocked first - already PM'd Olipro... just waitin
Any comments ?
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Same problem to me... downtown of the fifth biggest city in France...
Don't worry if I may say so: the phone is the problem. it has crappy reception, probably the crappiest of all time... I have tried any possible Radio ROM available, none of them changed a signle thing...
Worst HTC phone ever made for reception... All my friends with way cheaper phones have at least four to five bars when they are at my place, I don't get that... but all my other phones do.
Eve worse: the phone totally disconnects from network when I have one or two bars of H or 3G... I receive NO phone call, no SMS and I am notified two days later (30 voice msgs, fifty SMS... all sent two days ago). I even had issues at work becaus eof all this, people complained they couldn't reach me for hours and days...
I now have to set it back to G alone (switch off H or 3G that I want to use all the time...), which is a shame for such an advanced device...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not supposed to get a H during calls, maybe for video calls, I'm not sure. But for regular 3G calls, you shouldn't get a H, H should only appear when there is data transfer, like when using Internet for example.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not supposed to get a H during calls, maybe for video calls, I'm not sure. But for regular 3G calls, you shouldn't get a H, H should only appear when there is data transfer, like when using Internet for example.
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I'm not really qualified to comment except from my own experience... My phone always has the H symbol, when there is no data activity then the H symble is faded/semi transparent and becomes solid as soon as I make a call or transfer data (eg. updating weather) and I never have the 3G icon - always H or G. I belive this may be related to the operator and the frequencies they use for both HSDxA and 2G modes.
Probably for about 80% of my calls I'll keep the H symbol, but when it drops to G it's really annoying as the quality turns to sh*t
My phone never seems to be able to hold a signal.
I'm on the 3 network in Australia & my phone doesn't stick to the network. If I choose options under the phone and press 'find network' a couple of times it will lock on, but then minutes later I get the 'searching for network'. Over & over again.
My phone is unlocked using the Olinex method, my radio is current & I can't even recieve incoming calls or texts...outgoing is fine (when I've got network0 & I can use browse the internet & use GPS etc...just nothing incoming...
i have a theory on this its called " crap design"! i thinks its because the internal antenna is towards the bottom of the device so when you hold it you are covering the antenna.
try holding the phone with just two fingers trying not to cover the back (below the battery ) this works for me! i only say this out of observation
Could just be the way the network is configured for HSDPA. Voice traffic can be pushed on to 3G (or release 99 as it is sometimes called) to reduce the loading on the HSPDA carrier / layer.
See it as a good thing
Most handsets I have owned usually drop from HSDPA or 3G or GPRS during a voice call, probably just a design feature to save battery life. Should latch back on after call though. I have to say though, I had the MDA compact IV and the reception is positively shocking! dropping signal is soon as I picked it up and i'm in a good signal area! On its way back to T-MO as I speak as this wasn't the only issue. Shame, great form factor as well.
Symbols on your phone are just that symbolic, they don't always mean what you think they mean.
If a UE is on your desk in idle mode and it looks like you have a great signal and a H displayed, great. It means that it is measuring the quality of the network and you have the ABILITY to hold a HS data session should you want. The reception barrs on most 3g UE's aren't a measure of the radio reception but of the amount of noise. More bars less noise, less bars noisey environment.
If you make a voice call, there is no way any decent network would use HS to carry your call as it is wasting resource somebody else could use and of course pay for. Once in a call the UE has to monitor many things and also maintain that call or data session. In simplistic terms if the conditions do not allow the call to be carried over 3G it will step down to 2G. If it was a data session it could go from HSDPA to 3G, then 3G to GPRS.
Also a network could easily by the swap of a 1 or a 0 carry your voice call over 2G without you knowing at all, freeing up that 3G network that cost billions to roll out and pay licence fees for, for data which they can charge more for.
idrisito said:
i have a theory on this its called " crap design"! i thinks its because the internal antenna is towards the bottom of the device so when you hold it you are covering the antenna.
try holding the phone with just two fingers trying not to cover the back (below the battery ) this works for me! i only say this out of observation
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I think they made a mistake in the International English manual where it says the antenna is located at the bottom. Either that or it's different for different regional phones. If you download the HTC Touch Diamond_Asia_English_Manual_Manual_080521.pdf or HTC_Diamond_User_Manual_Asia_WWE.pdf from HTC's site, it shows the antenna being at the top next to the camera.
simpsoa said:
Hi all, I'm wanting to know if anyone else seems to be experiencing an issue where during a call the signal icon will change from H to G and the quality of reception / voice also drops to what resembles a non-3G phone.
This seems to happen quite often regardless if the call is inbound or outbound. I can be sitting at my desk and have what appears to be full reception with the H icon, then 2-3 minutes into a call (still sitting at my desk) the icon will change to G and from the quality degradation it must be reducing to 2G... why is this? I could understand if I was walking around but it happens regardless and will never go back up to H during a call only once the call has ended... is this a limitation of the cell network/carrier?
I'm using Dutty's v4, radio 1.09.25.23, Olinex 1.93 hardspl. Network carrier is Optus and I'm located right in the middle of the city - Melbourne, Australia.
I'm wanting to try some of the newer Raphel radios but need to get Security Unlocked first - already PM'd Olipro... just waitin
Any comments ?
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it's not the phone its the operator fault i have the same prob even with nokia's...if the person on the other part of the line is on gsm the operator will switch u on gsm network...they do this because they don't wont to use often the 3g network
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it's not the phone its the operator fault i have the same prob even with nokia's...if the person on the other part of the line is on gsm the operator will switch u on gsm network...they do this because they don't wont to use often the 3g network
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The operators do not do this. Do they switch you to a land line when you call a land line, no. It is all down to radio quality where you are making the call and not what number or type of line you are calling. The phone networks are not that intelligent
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The operators do not do this. Do they switch you to a land line when you call a land line, no. It is all down to radio quality where you are making the call and not what number or type of line you are calling. The phone networks are not that intelligent
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Actually, they are, they know what types of numbers you're calling. This is why even for long distance prices, there is a different between calling a land line and a cellphone number. Either way, the system can tell what type of line you're connected to.
Its kind of hard to explain, I have reasonable signal at home but its like sometime it can't find my network at sits at no signal, if I manual scan it finds every network but my own, I have to restart the phone and all is fine again until I go into an area with no signal, the only way to get the signal back is a restart. Even when I do have signal however it can't be trusted either, late messages, missed calls etc, its almost like cell scanning or whatever just locks up
update ur baseband version to latest(i mean radio)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129014
I had reception problems when I bought mine. They advised me to change my sim card since it was an old one.
Did that, reception got better.
hello, I have a new t mobile htc one I got as gift (never opened). My old phone was an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus using a tmobile prepaid sim. I resized this sim to fit the htc one and everything worked fine( full bars for signal). Problem with this sim is that I could not make wifi calls. So I called tmobile and had them activate the new sim which I got with the htc one (Same prepaid plan, no data). i can now make wifi calls. Problem is once wifi is disconnected I only have 1 bar. If I attempt to make a call all bars raise in full, even if i attempt to check my balance the bars automatically jump from 1 to full and back to 1 bar after i see my balance. Is there a setting i need to change or is this normal? i am worried I may be missing calls like this. (All this happens when the wifi is disabled)
Sorry if the post is confusing, I tried to provide all the details but will be happy to provide anything else if necessary.
Thanks!
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hello, I have a new t mobile htc one I got as gift (never opened). My old phone was an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus using a tmobile prepaid sim. I resized this sim to fit the htc one and everything worked fine( full bars for signal). Problem with this sim is that I could not make wifi calls. So I called tmobile and had them activate the new sim which I got with the htc one (Same prepaid plan, no data). i can now make wifi calls. Problem is once wifi is disconnected I only have 1 bar. If I attempt to make a call all bars raise in full, even if i attempt to check my balance the bars automatically jump from 1 to full and back to 1 bar after i see my balance. Is there a setting i need to change or is this normal? i am worried I may be missing calls like this. (All this happens when the wifi is disabled)
Sorry if the post is confusing, I tried to provide all the details but will be happy to provide anything else if necessary.
Thanks!
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This happens with me sometimes as well...if it is in LTE mode, the signal bars are less...1 , sometime 2, and sometimes 4... as soon as i make call, the data connection is OFF for that moment, and the signal bars are full....as soon as the calls end, the data connection is activated.... the bars are less again.... try changing the data connection modes from LTE to 3G only and to 2G....and see what happens
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This happens with me sometimes as well...if it is in LTE mode, the signal bars are less...1 , sometime 2, and sometimes 4... as soon as i make call, the data connection is OFF for that moment, and the signal bars are full....as soon as the calls end, the data connection is activated.... the bars are less again.... try changing the data connection modes from LTE to 3G only and to 2G....and see what happens
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Awesome this helps. Thanks. In my situation I have no data plan setup. No need for any internet on my phone atm. So all I use this phone for is calls and an occasional sms. Will I have a longer battery life if i disable lte and have it on gsm only? Would the call signal drop?
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Awesome this helps. Thanks. In my situation I have no data plan setup. No need for any internet on my phone atm. So all I use this phone for is calls and an occasional sms. Will I have a longer battery life if i disable lte and have it on gsm only? Would the call signal drop?
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i am not sure, but when you dont use Mobile Data on your HTC one, there is no need to select the LTE mode.... you can select the other option always. and it might save battery as well....."might"
You will definitely save on battery if you switch to 2g if you don't use data at all. Switching to 3g frequency takes more battery even when there's no data connection.
I switched it to gsm only then disabled mobile data. Full bars now. This should work. The next option is wcdma which i dont think tmobile uses.
Just want to ask if your smt 705 ever displays a no signal? The reason I'm asking is I noticed that on my device, the signal bars are always full even when there's no sim card.
Also if I'm on an area with no signal for a long time then went back to an area with a signal, my tab will show full bars of signal strength. However when you try to send a text, it will you that there is not connected to a mobile network.
Anybody having the same issues?
It depends whether you are connected to a WiFi network or not.