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Jesus, there's like two or three of them a day now. Between all the "Don't download this, I'm just testing" apps and those ****ty $5 apps by Khalid Shaikh the market is rapidly going down the toilet.
Really y'all, stop that. Just sayin.
I can see why they'd publish them. I can't, however, see why they leave them for more than 5 minutes. On my first publish I did exactly that. Tested to make sure that I could do it properly, and that it could download and install properly. Of course, I published my finished app and not a test version... I agree though...
yah i hate it. especially since google's plan is for a user managed market place.
That Khalid Shaikh is getting annoying with his lame apps indeed.
I have to agree with you guys. True, its a user-managed market, but I think users really ought to realize that if they want a good market, they gotta put up good apps! I don't want to be hating on Shaikh, considering he actually knows how to make apps and has the SDK environment all setup and I have absolutely no idea how, just, he really oughta do a quality check.
I can understand as a developer wanting to get your apps on the market asap to have all of your hard work recognized. But yeah, releasing apps before they're at least usable and pretty stable does nothing but hurt your reputation. You only get the "Sort by date" promotion once. I made that mistake on my first app..
You only get the "Sort by date" promotion once.
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So true... And if you waste that opportunity with unfinished work (particularly more than one unfinished work) you can really screw up acceptance of future works... Oh well, i guess that's up to those devs, I just wish I could weed them out of my view.
Right, why dont we just have Market Sections specifically for things like test apps, and fart apps, so we dont hafta sit there and freakin look through an infinite list of fart apps to find anything good? I mean, seriously, there should be some kinda category besides "Apps" and "Games on the main market page that you can lump all those LAME, annoying, USELESS apps into so that serious android users dont hafta filter through fifty fart apps to see decent work by serious devs...we should Just have a category called "Nonsense Apps", and all those apps should be kept separately from the regular apps section so you can browse through frickin fart apps all day long if thats what floats your boat, but if you actually wanna find something USEFUL, all that nosense crap will get filtered out...And honestly, its freakin 2009, people, there are Gays and Lesbians everywhere, openly expressing themselves as such, theres a black man running the white house...and somehow FARTS ARE STILL FUNNY?! I guess i didnt get the memo, cuz if i wanted to laugh at a fart id just fart, considering that the human anatomy is a generator of such sounds...why waste all that effort writing a program that makes fart sounds, when you can jusr rip one whenever, and its WAY funnier than a stupid phone app, cuz ppl can actually smell it...so what is the problem with all these moron devs that come out actin like they didnt know anyone else had put out a fart app? I agree with OP...JUST STOP IT...
Memo to bmfc187. Farts will always br funny. Fart apps, on the other hand, are pretty lame.
No farts were ripped during the creation of this reply.
/Liar
They do have a demo section for random bullcrap like this.
-bZj
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Memo to bmfc187. Farts will always br funny. Fart apps, on the other hand, are pretty lame.
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I'm not sayin i cant appreciate a good rip, but why go to all that trouble to digitize a fart sound that your own body already makes naturally, knowing full well that your little sound machine could NEVER reproduce the funk from those Supreme Burritos i had last nite at El Tapatio...
-BMFC
Right on, the G1 speaker doesn't seem to have enough "low-end" sound to do a good rip justice.
I must confess, I did get a kick out of one of the apps that let me put a fart alarm on my phone when anyone moved it. My girlfriend wanted to kill me after I set it and went to the mens room at Outback. Guess she moved it when the waitress brought out my salad, aanf well, many lols were had at her expense.
I sent an email to Jay at Cyrket.com to see if he'd be willing to do anything to allow us to apply filters to the data provided by his site. In the mean time, I set up a Yahoo Pipe for myself that filters out all apps with the words theme, skin, fart, or soundboard.
My "big idea" being an interface to the market which uses allows for very customizable seort and filter settings. Of course the actual market app would be used for purchases/downloads. This would only be a market browser.
It would be nice if we had the option to filter out certain developers (IndiaNIC, LLC and Khalid Sheikh) who are flooding the market with nonsense that obviously isn't selling.
ryan75: My Pipe does that.
The main problem with the Pipe approach though is that it's a work-around and as such is limited. Particularly in the case of sorting... You have to get all of the data first before you can reliably sort it, that can take a really long time with Pipes.
These developers should just provide links to themes, comics and icon packs etc. Test apps should go in the demo section. Finding 50 comics/books/storys/bs or themes or icons a day is friggin annoying. The farts I can deal with because there aren't 50 a day.
I browse the market every day and I see this guy putting apps that consistently get low reviews. His highest ranking app is 3 stars. He spams the market with apps that are overpriced photo galleries that show pics and play sounds of one specific thing. I think we should help him get the message that his high refund/low ranking rates are not giving him. Please reply if you agree that his apps need to stop spamming the market. If you have not tried one yet, look here. I am not doing this to be mean, but he needs to be told not to quit his day job.
Where's the option for "No. I dislike spam apps, but I hate censorship more." ?
So if his apps were malicious would you vote to have them removed? Do you feel spam filters on email are censorship? They fill your box with junk in hopes of making a few dollars off of you. I am against censorship but his apps are rediculous.
So if his apps were malicious would you vote to have them removed?
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There are rules in place for the Market in regards to malicious apps. There would be no need to vote because the gatekeepers of the Market have already said malicious apps would be removed.
Do you feel spam filters on email are censorship?
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Of course not. The key difference is who gets to decide what is removed. With a spam filter, each user gets to decide whether he wants to see content or not. Any system that removes apps from the Market (that aren't infringing the basic rules as stated above) without your knowledge and consent is basically censorship, whether the decision is made by ten people at Google or a hundred people on xda-dev.
Not if your email provider passes your email through spamhaus you dont. Also I would ****LOVE**** to have a configureable filter but I doubt we will. As an acceptable alternative, I would like for consistantly low rated and highly returned items to be removed. Guess what walmart does if a product gets returned 80% of the time it is sold. Do they ask you?
Also, I am not trying to start a fight with anyone, just stating my view on the subject.
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Also, I am not trying to start a fight with anyone, just stating my view on the subject.
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I don't care to start a fight either; I'm just pointing out that what you are proposing is a path down a slippery slope, and it generally goes against the "open participation" ethos of Android. You should also keep in mind that one person's junk may be another mans treasure. Would I ever buy one of Khalid's lame $5 joke apps (literally, they're joke books!)? No probably not. That doesn't mean that someone else might not want it.
Edit: Just as an example, back in the early days of Market before developers could geotarget the regions for distribution, some Chinese developers put up some app whose interface was completely Chinese. I think it was a Chinese input method or a frontend for a Chinese website. Regardless, the ignorant fresh T-Mobile masses downloaded it, didn't understand what it was for, and then promptly uninstalled it and rated it zero stars. If you do a filtering system based on ratings, you are giving every uninformed ignoramus an equal say in whether an app is allowed to stay or go.
The Markets sucks! It needs the possibility for user to set their own filter
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dont show apps publiced by Khalid Shaikh! lower than 2stars, more expensive than x$ and so on..
only show apps of a specifig language (e.g. for traffic,taxi,bus,tv gadgets..)
sort for recently updated and so on .. that's what the market app really needs!
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The Markets sucks! It needs the possibility for user to set their own filter
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dont show apps publiced by Khalid Shaikh! lower than 2stars, more expensive than x$ and so on..
only show apps of a specifig language (e.g. for traffic,taxi,bus,tv gadgets..)
sort for recently updated and so on .. that's what the market app really needs!
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Yes, the market app needs customizable local (meaning on a user's own device) filters. That will partially solve the problem of crap apps littering the marketplace. However, I think overhauling Market client is low on the Google Android team's priority list. Unfortunately since it is a proprietary closed source app, there is no way for the dev community to take the matter into its own hands.
You would think that the king of searching would have some sort of decent searching on their own platform..
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Yes, the market app needs customizable local (meaning on a user's own device) filters. That will partially solve the problem of crap apps littering the marketplace. However, I think overhauling Market client is low on the Google Android team's priority list. Unfortunately since it is a proprietary closed source app, there is no way for the dev community to take the matter into its own hands.
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I am planning on developing an interface to the Market which allows for custom filters. I have a prototype Yahoo Pipe, which uses Cyrket to display Market data and allow simple filters. Basically, I can filter out apps that have certain words in the title, are from a certain developer (or more than one), or are below a certain rating threshold.
I will have to agree though on the statement about censorship. While it is true that his apps may be without any true merit, I do not believe that they are (or he is) breaking any of the Market rules or developer agreements. Unfortunately, as we've seen in the the "free" market and the iPhone AppStore, people are willing to download and even spend money on useless apps. I think as long as there is a market for this type of app we will continue to see them. Now, unfortunately that means we all have to deal with him, his apps, and others like him and his apps until either the Market allows for better filtering/sorting or a developer creates this for the community... It is much needed nonetheless.
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I am planning on developing an interface to the Market which allows for custom filters. I have a prototype Yahoo Pipe, which uses Cyrket to display Market data and allow simple filters. Basically, I can filter out apps that have certain words in the title, are from a certain developer (or more than one), or are below a certain rating threshold.
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thats awesome. if its anything like BarTor its going to be good
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I am planning on developing an interface to the Market which allows for custom filters. I have a prototype Yahoo Pipe, which uses Cyrket to display Market data and allow simple filters. Basically, I can filter out apps that have certain words in the title, are from a certain developer (or more than one), or are below a certain rating threshold.
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That's good to hear. What I meant is that the actual Market App itself cannot be modified to work the way we want it to. While being able to display Market data with filtering on a PC is nice, the bulk majority of users are still going to be suffering the standard Market app interface.
Unfortunately, as we've seen in the the "free" market and the iPhone AppStore, people are willing to download and even spend money on useless apps. I think as long as there is a market for this type of app we will continue to see them. Now, unfortunately that means we all have to deal with him, his apps, and others like him
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There will be more, that much I can assure you. As the Android platform grows, there will be more opportunist developers seeking to make a quick buck. It really is like spam. You throw a line out and because digital publishing is free, anything you get back is profit. There is basically no monetary risk involved in creating and distributing crapware. Atleast we won't have to suffer iPhone's idiotic ninety-nine cent "custom" name dialers. Although the number of soundboards posted daily is reaching dangerous limits...
I intend to make it an Android app. While it won't be a permanent fix,it might be what is needed to get Google moving on updates to the official Market app.
Anyway, on another note. I haven't looked at any one of the apps in question but I would venture a guess that they are in violation of copyright laws and as we have seen with the Tetris clones, Google does take action on matters of copyright. Maybe the best recourse then is to inform this developer of the copyright issues either directly or through Google.
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Frankly i can't agree with having a dev (does this word really apply in this case) removed from the market for producing crap. However i am completely in favour of spamming his inbox with as much crap as i can possibly manage just to see how he likes it. Free porn search here i come!
Anyone wants to help it's --EMAIL REMOVED-- Yes this is a very childish response but i'm pissed with having to sift through his crap every morning, i think it's only fair!
Ideally google can resolve this issue by allowing to create a list of blocked developers. And the ability to block any apps containing the word soundboard would make my day
nEx.Software an app that was basically cryket.com for the android would be awesome. What would really be sweet was if it had an independant comment system that was filterable as well. So we could ban commenters based on their username, words, etc... Filtering by ratings, developer, keywords, etc.. I love it already. Just link the products to their entries in the market. Basically, cryket for the android with comments... I CAN HAZ IT NOW PLZ K?
Also, I'd love to add IndiaNIC, LLC to the filter list. I'm sure *someone* out there likes that they're putting out 300 e-books about India a day, but I'm sure tired of scrolling past them.
The last thing I'd want is to see rigorous policing on the Android Market. He's spreading expensive crapware but I'm sure people are buying it and I'm sure some actually enjoyed it. I don't think removing his apps from the market is the best solution, keep the market as free from censorship as possible if you ask me.
I think the best solution is market search filters as discussed above.
I agree, the ability to "ignore" certain developers would be nice. The new developer I would instantly add to this list would be IndiaNIC, LLC. or whatever the hell they are called. They have about 40 apps on the market, and I don't think a single one has a comment.
/if anyone affiliated with IndiaNIC, LLC reads this, no offense, but please get the message when nobody is buying what you're selling
The more I think about it, the more I realize a filter would be a better idea than removing junk from the market. While I do not agree that anyone will find his apps useful, I do see the point in letting them choose. But at the same time we should be able to choose not to see his crap. As for IndiaNIC, I disagree with placing them in the same category. They have products with good ratings and seem to be making at least SOME useful apps. While I agree they put out too many at once, they seem to have a market for their apps unlike Khalid Shaikh.
Still, a filter would be better for all. I wish I could edit the poll now to add that as an option
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/if anyone affiliated with IndiaNIC, LLC reads this, no offense, but please get the message when nobody is buying what you're selling
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Spammers don't need to "get the message"! They know exactly what they are selling (junk). The whole point is they are trying to make a quick buck. And in the immortal words of P.T. Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute."
Nevermind the fact that all of those texts can be downloaded for free from manybooks or feedbooks and then read on FBReaderJ...
Anyone else tired of this guy? He's cluttering up the market with .99-4.99 apps ...ehrmm... pictures. They're not even his images.
Who in their right mind would pay for pictures you can find on Google?
If you're reading this Sapphire... do us a favor and work on something other than pictures of Corollas. It's annoying having to go through 30 of your so called apps in order to see what's new.
I agree. Is this the same guy who flooded the market in the early days with $4.99 apps that only had pictures etc in them? eg. pictures of cats....
Yeah, they're all the same. Khalid Shaikh/Perfect Acumen/Sapphire Apps. Just a flood of Google-generated images for sale.
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Yeah, they're all the same. Khalid Shaikh/Perfect Acumen/Sapphire Apps. Just a flood of Google-generated images for sale.
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Yep... I wish Google would ban this little ****
Paging Dr B endorses this thread.
That guy and his apps are a joke.
You have my vote, but with that handle and avatar i would agree with most things you say no doubt
How about rather than complaining here, you all click on all his apps and press the "report" button. Spam the market mods to ban the douchebag.... *again*. He's already been banned a few times.
I've been reporting every one of his releases I see in the Just In list. I choose other reason then paste in "Spamming the market and selling images without owning copyright"
I'm hoping whoever the reports go to will get just as fed up and some sort of action will be taken. If everyone reports these unwanted rip off apps maybe they'll get the idea
I'm getting really annoyed by these apps, they get re-uploaded every day and take up pages of the market.
There should be a way to filter content like the porn girls even though it don't show nothing I don't my kids to have the option of seeing it on the market if this is the wrong section mods please edit
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That I know of there isn't anything provided by Google. Would be nice if they implemented some of the parental controls that Apple has on their iPhone OS.
I'm sure there will be much better sorting and filtering once the web browser version of the Market launches.
You would think they would have a filter even if it was just a app come on Google. Internet should be a tool but not one to exploit girls or guys
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For now, you could try appbrain... it allows filters...
There should be a filter, I haven't seen the apps myself. But depending on how graphic they are they might not even be allowed on the market
http://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html
Wait, whats wrong with porn girls????
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Oh your kids.. nevermind XD
I filter them by scrolling past them
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I filter them by scrolling past them
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I filter them by installing them and checking the content....
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I filter them by installing them and checking the content....
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lol YES
Easy fix. Get an iPhone.
Seriously, it is annoying.
Seems to me the more apps in the market the happier Google are. They don't seem to give a rats if they are absolute junk like many of them. They just want the app count up asap so they can brag about the growth. The [apps>Just in] option should be renamed [apps>Junk]. I do not think Googles approach is particulary fair on developers of genuine apps which drown in the mire of rubbish.
I mentioned in another thread how surprised I am the Top Paid app in the productivity section of the android market can only appeal to such a small portion of users. Seems to me the Market is not really gaining genuine momentum, if thats the best it can do. It is just filling up with fluff.
At least as craigacgomez says, Appbrain does a half decent job of hiding the rubbish.
The thing that annoys me most about the Android Market is that they won't give access to paid apps in many countries.
Why on earth would they block paid apps in some countries is just beyond me. I have a credit card, I want to pay for the apps, I want to spend money, so pleaseeee let me spend Google!!!
Am I way out of line for thinking that a kid who is old enough to carry a $600 phone should also be old enough to know a little bit about the world? I see more provocative images on billboards on the side of the interstate and ads on the side of Facebook for crying out loud.
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Am I way out of line for thinking that a kid who is old enough to carry a $600 phone should also be old enough to know a little bit about the world? I see more provocative images on billboards on the side of the interstate and ads on the side of Facebook for crying out loud.
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No I think that is a fair comment.
But if I understand correctly the OP was actually asking for a way to filter content. His pet hate is porn. Others are OK with the porn but want to filter the Spam apps. So to my mind user configurable filtering of the market would be a good thing.
I know everybody probably has the following
Advanced Task Manager
Skype
Dolphin/Opera/Miren Browser
But what other little "gems" have you found on the net that now it would be hard to live without.
Free Apps
Freenote What a beauty! Taking meeting notes etc in freehand or Kboard.
Store audio or pictures from the camera straight into a note. mail etc
3CX Sip Phone: Free, Simple and it works!
Dual File Manager: Uppacks Zip files on the fly and intuitive to use.
QuickPic: Much better than gallery able to Hide the directories you don't want to include.
MoboPlayer: Seem to play all the video files I have (WMF, AVI,etc etc)
Wifinder: Quick and easy Wifi control
Swiss Arny Knife: (all the common helpfull stuff in one package) especially the ruler!
Paid Apps
Roadsync: (If you have to interface into outlook, it just works)
Documents to Go: Seems to handle most of the microsoft virus (sorry office) files.
Beautiful Widgets: (Worth the money if your a HTC Sense fan)
Root explorer/total commander and titanium backup are must have apps!
plume,friend me, CNBC, news pres, file manager hd, great battles, talk, pulse, a currency, gamefly, qello, news360, the daily habit there's more....
Note all the apps I stated are fully optimized for the xoom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146462
Instead of creating redundant threads.
Sergio PC said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146462
Instead of creating redundant threads.
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I didn't ask what was your favourite app "Optimized For Honeycomb" List (Includes games)"
I asked what was your favourite app. Not all apps are optimised and work that well on Xoom. I think of all the apps I mentioned only 5 were on your "Optimised" list
Is this how you get your post count so high?
I know I am a "newbie" on here and thanks for the warm welcome "Senior Member!"
Maybe you should read the thread before jumping down my throat.
Your apology accepted!
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I didn't ask what was your favourite app "Optimized For Honeycomb" List (Includes games)"
I asked what was your favourite app. Not all apps are optimised and work that well on Xoom. I think of all the apps I mentioned only 5 were on your "Optimised" list
Is this how you get your post count so high?
I know I am a "newbie" on here and thanks for the warm welcome "Senior Member!"
Maybe you should read the thread before jumping down my throat.
Your apology accepted!
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Seriously, dude, buzz off. Is that how you increase your post count? Nobody gives a rat's ass about newbies like you. And it IS a redundant thread. Thus, you can go frack yourself.
We are seriously in need of the ban hammer. People need to respect around here.
By the way OP download the Amazon app store and get Fieldrunners. That's my favorite app so far.
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Most people here DO NOT have Advanced Task Manager because, well, this is Android. No task killers needed. Of course in certain situations they can be useful, but not just for killing apps to free up memory.
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My fav apps on my Xoom (different from my phone) are Newsr, News360, Friend Me, Weather Bug and Plume.
I really like News 360. Great app. Plume is awesome too.
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Seriously, dude, buzz off. Is that how you increase your post count? Nobody gives a rat's ass about newbies like you. And it IS a redundant thread. Thus, you can go frack yourself.
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Last I checked this isn't StackOverflow. IMO, the OP is right in this case, and what the hell is the harm if he isn't? This thread is in the right place, and more content can help people find things by chance.
I don't always reply to pseudo-trolls, but when I do, its because you need to get your head out of your ass.
For no particular reason other than general interest and they work well on the Xoom:-
1Tap Cleaner
Dropbox
Electrum Drum Machine Sampler
F1 News
File manager HD
Flightboard
Flightradar24 pro
FlightTrack Pro
Google Sky Map
HDR.Camera
Marine Traffic
Navionics UK
News 360
Satellite AR
Star Chart
Tiny Flashlight
Tune In Radio Pro
WiFi analyzer