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Hi all,
I've just bought my first HTC unit ever (Kaiser), which is also my first Windows Mobile Phone (I used PocketPCs since 2001 but with no integrated phone so far), and it seems to have a lot of issues in the areas of "regular phone" functionality.
However, the one that is really freaking me out so far is the whole "Bluetooth audio" area. I'm just wondering whether I would ever be able to get what I want or am I asking too much.
I have 3 Bluetooth audio devices, all of them are dual Headset/Headphone ones: in-car fixed Motorola T605, Jabra BT8010 and Plantronics 590. Now, naturally, I want to use the T605 in the car, Jabra for phone calls only throughout the day and for music occasionally, and Plantronics when I'm in the gym, for both music and occasional incoming phone calls.
I had all this working flawlessly with my SonyEricsson K800i phone: each device connected to the phone automatically when powered up and automatically took over both Headset and Headphone functions. The only minor problem was reconnecting Jabra when stepping out of the car, which required only a short tap on the button.
Now, with Kaiser, things are much more complicated. When a device (any of them) is connected to the phone, both as Headset and Headphones, it works mostly OK, although sometimes there is a problem of sound not coming through the device when an incoming call was answered while playing music. The music is suspended OK, but the sound comes from the phone speaker instead of the respective Bluetooth device. This happens from time to time, not always.
But the biggest problem is the initial connection of a device after another one has already been connected. When I enter my car and fire up the engine, I want the T605 to automatically connect to the phone even if Jabra has already been connected. This I was unable to achieve. Instead, I have to manually disconnect Jabra (by powering it off or temporarily powering off Bluetooth on the phone) and then manually connect the phone with the T605, for both Headset and Wireless Music (two actions required!). Now, for me, this is unacceptable.
Moreover, when I arrive to a destination and want to step out of the car, I have to manually reconnect my Jabra to the Kaiser, again, through the phone’s Bluetooth settings as described above. A short tap on Jabra’s button no longer works for this purpose, in opposite to SE K800i.
Making the long story short, this is completely unacceptable behavior for me, and I haven’t found so far a way to make it the way I need it.
Any advices?
mpogr said:
Hi all,
I've just bought my first HTC unit ever (Kaiser), which is also my first Windows Mobile Phone (I used PocketPCs since 2001 but with no integrated phone so far), and it seems to have a lot of issues in the areas of "regular phone" functionality.
However, the one that is really freaking me out so far is the whole "Bluetooth audio" area. I'm just wondering whether I would ever be able to get what I want or am I asking too much.
I have 3 Bluetooth audio devices, all of them are dual Headset/Headphone ones: in-car fixed Motorola T605, Jabra BT8010 and Plantronics 590. Now, naturally, I want to use the T605 in the car, Jabra for phone calls only throughout the day and for music occasionally, and Plantronics when I'm in the gym, for both music and occasional incoming phone calls.
I had all this working flawlessly with my SonyEricsson K800i phone: each device connected to the phone automatically when powered up and automatically took over both Headset and Headphone functions. The only minor problem was reconnecting Jabra when stepping out of the car, which required only a short tap on the button.
Now, with Kaiser, things are much more complicated. When a device (any of them) is connected to the phone, both as Headset and Headphones, it works mostly OK, although sometimes there is a problem of sound not coming through the device when an incoming call was answered while playing music. The music is suspended OK, but the sound comes from the phone speaker instead of the respective Bluetooth device. This happens from time to time, not always.
But the biggest problem is the initial connection of a device after another one has already been connected. When I enter my car and fire up the engine, I want the T605 to automatically connect to the phone even if Jabra has already been connected. This I was unable to achieve. Instead, I have to manually disconnect Jabra (by powering it off or temporarily powering off Bluetooth on the phone) and then manually connect the phone with the T605, for both Headset and Wireless Music (two actions required!). Now, for me, this is unacceptable.
Moreover, when I arrive to a destination and want to step out of the car, I have to manually reconnect my Jabra to the Kaiser, again, through the phone’s Bluetooth settings as described above. A short tap on Jabra’s button no longer works for this purpose, in opposite to SE K800i.
Making the long story short, this is completely unacceptable behavior for me, and I haven’t found so far a way to make it the way I need it.
Any advices?
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Have you tried the Bluetooth fix on HTC's website?
Asking is easy, searching is hard work for some people it seems. No offence..
I'm using Schap's ROM which is supposed to have this fix built-in.
mpogr said:
I'm using Schap's ROM which is supposed to have this fix built-in.
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Ahh. didn't see that in your first post..
I think you are suffering the same prob as many. Every time a BT device comes out, it never seems to work with what we had before. BT protocols are NOT fixed (The IEEE STILL have not fully implemented a specific proto!), they change faster than we change our devices.
As I said before (without meaning any offence) search the whole forum, many threads have been out on this subject and some advice/fixes or equipment references are out there.
Well, I did search these forums and haven't seen someone referring to the same kind of problems I'm having.
Now, regarding your comment about variety of BT devices... I don't buy that. My SE K800i is 1 year old and works perfectly with this combination of devices.
I have pretty extensive experience with Broadcom/Widcomm BT stack on PC and older models of PocketPC (the one I have is IPAQ 5555) and I suspect these foes are direct derivatives from the fact Kaiser uses MS BT stack, which is much inferior. However, it seems nobody was able to make Broadcom/Widcomm stack work on Kaiser so far...
mpogr said:
Well, I did search these forums and haven't seen someone referring to the same kind of problems I'm having.
Now, regarding your comment about variety of BT devices... I don't buy that. My SE K800i is 1 year old and works perfectly with this combination of devices.
I have pretty extensive experience with Broadcom/Widcomm BT stack on PC and older models of PocketPC (the one I have is IPAQ 5555) and I suspect these foes are direct derivatives from the fact Kaiser uses MS BT stack, which is much inferior. However, it seems nobody was able to make Broadcom/Widcomm stack work on Kaiser so far...
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OK, I'm sorry if you don't. I only tried to help. Seem's you've asked a question and have already formed an opinion to it!!!
I have personal experience of Sony's proprietory connection limitations.
My BT works fine on all my devices....will leave you to others.
Looks like I found a partial solution which makes my life almost perfect...
It seems the real problem is taking over Kaiser from a previously connected device. So, if I switch my Jabra off several seconds before I fire up my car's engine, my T605 is able to connect to it. Same goes the other way around, I can turn off the car engine and then fire up the Jabra several seconds later. In this case all is good.
Looks like the MS BT stack is still ill-implemented though, as, for example, when in active Wireless Music BT connection, the device is unable to discover any other Bluetooth devices or to connect to other device's BT serial interface, which makes using external GPS devices difficult.
This could be a problem for me since my car (Citroen C5) has special anti-radiation coating on its windshield which quite effectively screens the satellite signals. Therefore I came up with a solution of having a BT GPS device permanently located in the car (actually, in the driver's seat back pocket) hardwired to the mains as well as to an external GPS antenna. This setup is effectively beating both reception and start-up time problems.
With Kaiser’s limitation on simultaneous BT connections I’m unable to use this setup anymore. Yes, I could bypass using an additional GPS device by connecting the external antenna to Kaiser’s internal GPS, but this looks like a cumbersome solution as I couldn’t find a Kaiser-compatible mounting with a socket for hardwiring an external GPS antenna.
Luckily for me, I still have my old IPAQ loaded with GPS software which I prefer to use for navigation anyway thanks to its significantly bigger screen
mpogr said:
Looks like I found a partial solution which makes my life almost perfect...
It seems the real problem is taking over Kaiser from a previously connected device. So, if I switch my Jabra off several seconds before I fire up my car's engine, my T605 is able to connect to it. Same goes the other way around, I can turn off the car engine and then fire up the Jabra several seconds later. In this case all is good.
Looks like the MS BT stack is still ill-implemented though, as, for example, when in active Wireless Music BT connection, the device is unable to discover any other Bluetooth devices or to connect to other device's BT serial interface, which makes using external GPS devices difficult.
This could be a problem for me since my car (Citroen C5) has special anti-radiation coating on its windshield which quite effectively screens the satellite signals. Therefore I came up with a solution of having a BT GPS device permanently located in the car (actually, in the driver's seat back pocket) hardwired to the mains as well as to an external GPS antenna. This setup is effectively beating both reception and start-up time problems.
With Kaiser’s limitation on simultaneous BT connections I’m unable to use this setup anymore. Yes, I could bypass using an additional GPS device by connecting the external antenna to Kaiser’s internal GPS, but this looks like a cumbersome solution as I couldn’t find a Kaiser-compatible mounting with a socket for hardwiring an external GPS antenna.
Luckily for me, I still have my old IPAQ loaded with GPS software which I prefer to use for navigation anyway thanks to its significantly bigger screen
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Glad to here you have a resolution (albeit a partial one).
Just one thing, why would you want to connect to an external BT GPS at the same time as your car kit? Can't you get a good enough signal on the internal GPS or is there another reason?
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...Can't you get a good enough signal on the internal GPS...?
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Yes, that's what I wrote in my post above. This antiradiation coating is a real satellite signal killer...
But, IMO, Kaiser's screen is too small for in-car navigation anyway, so having a dedicated unit is always a plus
mpogr said:
Yes, that's what I wrote in my post above. This antiradiation coating is a real satellite signal killer...
But, IMO, Kaiser's screen is too small for in-car navigation anyway, so having a dedicated unit is always a plus
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Sorry, blind AND stupid!
Yes I agree the screen is too small for general use. I have a dedicated GPS in the car and only use the TyTnII as a temporary routefinder whenever needed.
I have a new car stereo (JVC) that has bluetooth. How do I send my Vivid's phone book to the stereo? The stereo manual says it is possible, but is the Vivid set up to do the send?
Initiate it from the car... Thats easiest. Most of the time it'll ask automatically when you first connect them up. A screen will popup on the vivid asking for permission.
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I followed the instructions in my vehicle manual (BT came with the car) to pair and connect to my Vivid's BT. The car system downloaded the contacts list from my phone. It took a few minutes. But I didn't have to do anything special.
I have done the initialization of the stereo three times now and when I pair for the first time, it never asks me about the phone book.
Still no success
So I had previously been using only google contacts in my people list. I exported to SD, then imported them directly to phone. Then, in people, I selected only viewing from phone. (Can't see an option to bulk copy to SIM) On the stereo, I deleted the Vivid, then reconnected/paired. I did see the phone book share prompt on the Vivid, and checked always. Pair was success, but the phone book import is still not available. JVC suggests reattempting the pair until successful, or until the onset of insanity (almost there!).
Can anyone with success give me details such as brand of stereo, where your contacts were, if there was any delay in the importation, did it require a reboot, did it require a re-pair.
All other bluetoothing operations are fine, except for direct dialing from the Stereo's number pad, but that isn't as critical as the phone book. I almost never direct dial anymore.
I recently installed a bt jvc unit into my wifes car. I know I was able to get the phone book to transfer from her sprint evo. I will look into it to see how I did it and post. I'm 99% sure her contacts are only google and not phone. I'll double check that too.
Keep in mind that some stereos just don't like some phones, I have a sony head-deck with bt/a2dp that is supposed to do the address book thing and I tried for weeks with mine, all different roms and applications and pairing methods and eventually I just gave up, but the same phone pairs and shares the address book almost instantly with the BT stereos that come standard in the toyota yaris and toyota camry's at work...
JVC says it might be because the parking brake wire isn't connected properly. This faulty connection also inhibits the Mic. Since that isn't working either, it has to be the solution. Update coming after the fix.
You can't know your limits until you exceed them.
It was the parking brake ground wire. I had assumed that the ground wire was only to keep video from playing on the display while driving (park brake off).
You can't know your limits until you exceed them.
I am rooted but still using the stock ROM. I have two Bluetooth-enabled Pioneer head units and a Bluetooth adapter for my home stereo system with this issue, so I know it's not the other Bluetooth device that's the problem.
When I pair the other Bluetooth device, everything works fine until the Bluetooth device disconnects. I either leave the area with my One, or turn the car off. When I come back home or turn the car on, the One will not reconnect unless I manually turn Bluetooth off and turn it back on again. I don't have to redo the pairing, just cycle Bluetooth off and on. This gets really, really annoying with the car stereos because I have to do it every time I make a stop.
The weird thing is, I had the problem before and it went away when the KitKat update was released. Unfortunately it only worked for a few weeks because I sent my One in for the pink camera issue. I did a hard reset before sending it off and rooted it got back, and now the Bluetooth problem has returned even though it's still on 4.4.2.
Anyone know how to make this go away?
No one is having a similar problem or knows how to fix this?
I got my Note 4 yesterday and was trying to connect my car radio (Jvc Kw-V50BT). The phone connected, but when trying to connect the media part of the phone it just doesn't want to connect. I had a LG G2 prior to this phone and it worked fine. I checked JVC and it should work with Bluetooth 2.0 and up. This is baffling my mind right now. I might have to factory reset my phone and try it that way. Any help would be appreciated.
No problems here I use my Ford touch and everything is fine
HtcOnekid said:
No problems here I use my Ford touch and everything is fine
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well I might have to factory reset it then.
redstar kachina said:
well I might have to factory reset it then.
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If it still doesn't work...try another BT source.
Works better with my Ford Touch than any phone previously.
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Try reseting your radio... not sure how you do that with your model. Make sure you delete the old pairing.
bt 4.0, which most newer phones have, is very touchy about what it works properly with; I have a bad time trying to stay connected to my vivosmart garmin band, but pairing to my car and plantronics headset works 100% of the time.
my wife has a G3, and has the same issues; some things work 100% of the time, and some others only work occasionally
A2DP Issues
I just got my Note 4 yesterday, and am definitely experiencing some (admittedly minor) issues with A2DP in my Honda CR-V EXL 2012.
When playing music over Bluetooth, I experience the infamous "Galaxy S5 intermittent half-second skip". Also, I have noticed that when playing an album or playlist, if the screen on the phone is off the currently playing song information will not update.
For example:
I am listening to "Gimme More" by Britney Spears on the album Blackout.
"Gimme More" ends, and the next track "Piece of Me" comes on.
The car screen will continue to show "Gimme More' unless I use the forward or back buttons from my steering wheel or dashboard to manually change songs.
This causes the screen to update to "Piece of Me"... albeit with a brief delay.
Very odd...
SiNJiN76 said:
If it still doesn't work...try another BT source.
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I finally got it too work, but I had to get an app to help me out. I think it was called Bluetooth Manager or something. I forced it to accept the media and got it working. I was getting frustrated when even a factor reset didn't help.
Yes, I have the stuttering too on my Note 4. What can I do about it?
Note 4 note; note, Bluetooth.
redstar kachina said:
I got my Note 4 yesterday and was trying to connect my car radio (Jvc Kw-V50BT). The phone connected, but when trying to connect the media part of the phone it just doesn't want to connect. I had a LG G2 prior to this phone and it worked fine. I checked JVC and it should work with Bluetooth 2.0 and up. This is baffling my mind right now. I might have to factory reset my phone and try it that way. Any help would be appreciated.
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This may not help but.. Got my Note 4 four days ago; had the Note 3. 3 Had 0 problems with Bluetooth; 30 ft. through walls, drops rare, auto connected to my car while I was in the house. Note 4 range 15 feet,, constant drops and fails to connect. Hoping to get another 3 or 4 from T-mobile but that has not happened yet. I'm good carrying both. The 4 makes calls (although the speaker is a downgrade. The 3 connects to all my stuff. just like the old days at work. :fingers-crossed:
This is what I'm using. No issues.
It's not super new. Just a decent deck. But, the rule is the newer the better with flagship phones:
Not sure if this is related or not - I have an open thread about blue tooth streaming issues with my car...
What I have found so far -
My car (2012 Subaru STi) has two methods to pair a blue tooth device... entering the setup through the steering wheel is the only way to save a device for auto connect and play, entering the setup through the head unit lets you save and select a phone to pair, but you must select pair each time you get into the car. If you do option #2, I have the call audio and media boxes always unchecked. - see if your car has a different method for primary user/secondary user blue tooth set up
and secondly, my main issue was that while listening to spotify my radio head unit would say BT-Audio Paused out of nowhere, when in fact, the spotify track still shows playing and the song is progressing.
after lots of troubleshooting I think this may be an issue to spotify itself and not my phone (I am now testing Pandora/other streaming media to see if they do the same interment freeze/odd stuff)
I've also been having problems with Bluetooth devices connected to my Note 4. Previously, I had been using an iPhone 6 and I didn't have any issues with these devices. Now, I'm experiencing connection problems with my Jawbone UP24, my Plantronics headset, or my Jaybird stereo earbuds, and other devices. Once I reboot my Note 4, the BT connection is usually back. But, sometimes I have problems even after I've rebooted the Note 4. If I power cycle my BT peripheral, I'm usually OK as well.
So - my question is: could it be possible that some of my Bluetooth peripherals (like my Jawbone UP24) may be causing some type of interference? Or, do I have faulty hardware?
Older Bluetooth Devices always seem to be hit or miss on the newer Samsung devices that have been coming out. May be its age being the factor, lol. :silly:
Anyone else haing issues here with bluetooth? I can connect to everything bluetooth, wireless speakers, car, headsets, watch etc. The only thing I can get to work reliably is the headset, everything else randomly cuts out or has issues. For example both cars have bluetooth for phone calls, one has bluetooth for media, I can get both to work for a short time but it either 1. Cuts out and reverts back to phone, freezes the system in the one car, or jumps back and forth between the 2. Similar results when connected to bluetooth speakers, can get it to work for about 10-15 minutes then nothing, phone shows it still connected and playing music but no sounds from speakers. LG G Watch R also randomly looses connection. I'm beginning to regret my switch from the S5.
Anyone having similar problems or a fix?? I really want to keep the phone but not sure I can deal with this flaw...........
I have no such issues with the bluetooth. I can tell you that I had bluetooth issues with one of my other android phones. I had to get it warranty replaced. My suggestion is that you get the phone replaced since its brand new.
Mine has been fine so far. I just wish that android was more like apple, as much as I hate to say that. Both my S6 and M7 will play phone audio fine when in a call, but to use maps I have to turn the radio to Bluetooth mode. Makes it kinda boring to ride with no radio just to get turn by turn nav.
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I haven't had any issues with my smart watch (moto 360) but I have had some weird issues with my car's Kenwood media deck. The phone will connect to the unit, but 75% of the time no sound will come from the speakers on the first try. Sometimes just waiting about a minute does the trick, other times I turn BT off/on and it'll work fine the 2nd time. However because I haven't had any issues connecting with my watch, ear piece, or laptop I am willing to bet it's it an issue with the Kenwood and not the phone.
Thanks guys. Don't want to have to warranty swap it but looks like that's going to be my first step.