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Right off the bat, my Revo is non-responsive, no buttons will light, backlight, vibration, sound, and of course no splash screen since the screen isn't lighting. The only sense that it is partly there is after a time connected to USB/wall charger the battery warms as if it is charging. Yet, there is no indication during charge on the screen, it stays totally black as described above.
I have been poring over forum posts, CWR threads, and the like, but have come up short on a method of reviving this puppy. thecubed had posted something that seemed promising but doesn't work for me here. At all steps, the phone remains non-responsive and connecting it to the PC yields no mass storage connection. The only step I have abbreviated is letting it charge for an hour since the phone had charged about four hours since it shut down.
Two evenings ago, I flashed from Revolt ROM 1.0 to 1.1. It was successful but since I had just gone through battery calibration and running my battery down until the phone shut down the day before when I flashed it to 1.0, I was hoping (naive?) that I wouldn't have to do it this time (yes, naive!). So, I left the phone on all night, on the wall charger.
I was using it the next day and at one point, while using it in a low reception area, browsing the web, it rebooted on me. No biggie, had that happen in the past. After reboot however, the battery level seemed different so I wanted to get it topped off then calibrate. 1-2 hours later I noticed that the calibration app was showing the mV lower and capacity was at 70%. The battery felt unusually hot. I shut it down, removed the battery and cooled both battery and phone in a small fridge to accelerate the process (was near time to leave work).
Next boot was I recall having an extra FC, one beside the CarHome normal FC with Revolt ROM 1.1. This boot the battery showed maybe 20% capacity so I said "screw it" and deleted battery.bin with the battery calibration app (I recall the mV was low, in the 3600 range). I discharged it on the way home and left the display on to run the last couple percent down. It appeared to try and shutdown but ended abruptly. That was the last time I saw any life from my Revo.
The day after its first and only ever root, I did have an odd occurrence which I posted.
Boot Trouble - Rooted After Phone Downloaded OTA, Not Installed
That time, I had not installed a ROM yet but the phone got itself into a boot up funk. Removing the battery, connecting to wall charger, watching buttons flash ~5 times, disconnecting (which stopped the flashing lights), then battery in, power on... success! I was hoping that would happen this time around but I haven't been able to.
Full history, being my first root, I used S1C successfully, installed Titanium Backup (ran system and app backup), and RevoToolkit. The phone did download the OTA but I never let it install, instead selecting to delay it by 24hrs when it asked to install. Fearing that deadline and getting one more warning that it wanted to reboot and install the OTA, I went ahead and installed the Revolt ROM 1.0. All went fine, no drama. The next afternoon I thought going to 1.1 was going well too, until this brick hit me.
My hope of hopes is it's just a bad battery and the phone won't respond because the mV is too low. Reading thecubed's comment in his first link (above) how recoverable this phone is lends me hope.
It sounds like a bad battery. I would take it to a verizon store and see if you can try a different battery. If it still will not boot then they should warranty it out for you.
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Thanks for the responses. I will be going to VZW shortly to figure this out. This phone is maybe two months old so hopefully the battery is the answer *fingers crossed*
Impressive battery life! At my office, I'm in a bit of a metal cubicle area and a bit low on signal strength. My phones will sometimes use up the battery trying to keep connected, it seems, so I am usually plugged in most of the time.
While I have your ear, thanks for the great work on Revolt ROM. I am very happy with it and look forward to its future development
Good news and bad.
The good news was they swapped in a new battery and the phone worked. Having the warranty, it didn't cost anything.
The bad news is that it looks like there may be another problem. On the way out of the store the battery was indicating 1% so I quickly got it on the charger in the car. Driving home, about 10 minutes later, I got a warning for battery temperature. Thinking the low battery may just be taking a charge and getting hot from that, I turned the car A/C on full, took the back cover off, and kept the phone in the cold air.
In about two minutes, just feet from home, I noticed the display was off. Faintly I could see the battery charge symbol that shows when the phone is powered down and charging, but the backlight was off and I couldn't see if there was any color or animation to it.
As soon as I shut the car off and the power quit, that faint display disappeared, full black, dead. Now it seems it is behaving exactly the same. I haven't fiddled with it much, holding out hope of hopes it can be started and maybe recovered.
Could calibrating the battery at the wrong time have caused something like this? Do batteries have a safety lockout if they overheat? To be fair, I was running an intensive app at the time, Waze GPS. Maybe the battery didn't keep up and the phone decided it was too low and shut off. I will post back after letting it sit, cool, hopefully charge, and see what comes of it.
My phone is behaving exactly the way you describe too. A couple of days with Revolt 1.1, and this is the only problem. I had my phone hooked to a lithium ion usb battery pack all day, and it showed "100%" while hooked up, but as soon as I disconnected the battery pack, the battery icon changed to red, then it refused to boot like the situation described in the Revolt 1.1 thread in Development. It also would not go into charge mode on the battery pack, but when I came home and hooked it to a genuine AC adapter and it went into power-off charge display. I'm going to give it a few hours on the charger before I attempt to boot it again, and I'll report back.
Still no luck. I haven't charged it too much yet for fear that it isn't charging properly. Seeing the new battery work for about 20 minutes yesterday lent me hope that if I figure out how to get a fresh battery in or just shell out for another new one, I can have a window of opportunity to change ROMs and see if that has anything to do with it.
This morning I got out my digital multimeter to measure the battery pos to neg and am getting nothing (unless you consider 0.01v something). I tested my old LG clamshell's bulging, old, and damaged 1000mAh battery and it reads 3.99v but couldn't keep my old phone up (lacks oomph now).
Comparing that battery to the Revo's, they have the same four contact pattern but different connection scheme which just stops contact when test fitting. After shaving down its casing on the bottom a little bit, it was just enough to make contact. Using four hands (yes, I am very talented ) to hold the phone, hold the test battery properly, and hold the power button, I was able to get the power-up vibration and the first LG splash screen. We lost it after that but that's likely due to the very weak test battery and/or losing contact while holding it in the Revo.
Since the spankin' brand-new battery is now reading zero, I'm left second guessing my decision of not shutting the phone down when I got the temperature warning. Maybe these batteries do have an internal protection to prevent runaway failure and it too is trash. I have no experience with this otherwise so this is just guesswork.
I'm contemplating rigging the new battery into my old LG phone to see if it can tell it "all clear" and charge it up. I'll post anything I find out here. Any other suggestions are highly welcome. Still, last ditch, I'm pretty certain I can set up another ROM to flash on the SD ahead of time, get another battery, and Clockwork to test another ROM if it's the phone or ROM. I may have had 20 minutes of uptime on the last battery.
I think I've gotten to the bottom of my problem. It's a syndrome of things that I have hopefully untangled.
First off, I had been messing with Power Manager, and wanted the phone to not sleep or timeout the display when plugged into both AC and USB. I figured that would help when I'm plugged into the computer, but it was probably a bad choice.
Yesterday I was out on a boat, which probably put me into a weak signal area, causing the phone to expend extra energy staying locked on a tower. In addition, I had plugged it into the external USB power pack, and thrown them in a bag together. This did two very bad things: 1) It allowed heat to build up from both the charging and 2) it invoked the "USB powered" Power Manager profile which kept the display active which created both additional heat AND crazy battery drain.
Here's what I think happened:
1. The battery overheated
2. The USB battery pack couldn't charge as fast as the display and radio could suck it out -- so five hours in that mode BOTH drained the internal battery AND tapped into about 30% of the external battery pack.
3. The USB battery pack will not provide enough initial juice to restart a flat-dead, overheated phone, or the firmware "knows" it is hooked to USB and refuses to start the phone -- for some bizarre reason.
So, I think my phone demonstrated normal behavior for a flat-dead, overheated phone, and hooking it up to AC brought it right back to life -- after about 5 hours of continuous charging. The battery also got very warm during charging -- more than I recall feeling ever in the past.
I'm hoping there is nothing that software power management could have done to physically damage the battery, but I assume Verizon would claim it could -- as part of the reason they forbid system modifications, and therefore withdraw their warranty if you modify.
At this point I think I have dodge a bullet, and my phone is fine -- other than a few of the quirks others are seeing in Revolt 1.1 (Phone occasionally FC, etc.)
Good to hear your phone is fine. Seems like mine is too as posted above but time will tell. I got the Revo battery set up and charging on my old phone. It seems to be connected well enough. The phone complained the first try that there was no battery but my second try has it displaying that it is charging. The battery isn't warm at all but maybe that's due to a different charging rate for the old phone's 1000mAh battery vs. the Revo's 1500mAh. Or, it really isn't connected perfectly. We shall see.
Success. The surrogate charge setup got the Revo battery up to 4.11v and indicated charge complete. The Revo completed a full boot on the battery and appeared normal.
Not normal was quick heating (still unsure of the cause). Going straight to Battery Calibrator, it indicated 68% and around 3.7v and falling. Not wanting to push my luck, I shut it down. Battery now read 3.9v. Not bad but it sure seems to be getting drained quickly which would explain all the heat. Going to set up later and see if I can get it back to stock and see if the behavior persists.
I don't know how to fix any of your issues but I would like to say thanks for giving such a detailed display of what you've been doing to fix this problem should anyone else run into this issue. Also, That picture in you one post: That is the most jerry rigged set-up to charge a phone I have ever seen in my life and I love it. Good luck getting your phone working I hope everything turns out for the best.
You're welcome. It was a bit of impromptu brainstorming with some fellow tinkerers that helped come up with a way to test charge the battery. Having it come back to life
I've come to a conclusion. Somehow, I think when the battery overheats, it must internally soft protect itself. Charging it on the old phone reset it and then it worked again on the Revo. Why the old phone works and not the Revo, unsure. That would at least explain why the battery tested at zero volts before the charging rig.
After many starts and stops on my Revo now, I have found that what was heating up first was the casing of the phone. I'm guessing heat conduction of heat from the processor as it wasn't the display which was set to minimum brightness (those are the main heat sources, right?). Looking into Settings > About > Battery Stats, it only showed Android System at 98%. It seems like the processor got locked into some some high power continuous use situation which survived reboots.
The battery gets hot later due to the high consumption and proximity to the hot casing (processor), especially with the back on. Withing 1-2 minutes from start, the sides of the phone would be quite warm and after 5 minutes becomes concerning. It seems that's why the battery was never able to get to 100%, but instead its percentage was always falling, phone over consuming greater than charge rate.
With the processor going full tilt, battery cover on, protective case on phone, sitting in a warm car without A/C, that got the battery too hot within 20 minutes. It was a similar situation with the prior battery when the problem cropped up.
I don't know what the cause of this predicament was in the first place however. The phone was plain stock, then rooted, later flashed Revolt 1.0, then Revolt 1.1. Between Titanium Backup, RevoToolkit for CWM, basically nothing unusual, I have no idea how it happened. Maybe I should have done Decrap first since I've read others doing such. Thinking back to my first post/thread, I had a boot issue and only had rooted, Titanium, and RevoToolkit, no ROMs yet.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm not placing blame anywhere, just documenting my "progress." There was a time I was on Revolt where it wasn't behaving this way. I am left without a solid conclusion as to the cause.
How to avoid the battery drain?
I had a similar situation, downgraded and then installed Revolt 1.3. Can't say what did it, but the battery got hot and drained so far it would even start charging.
I got the battery charged on the old phone, and the new one, with Revolt 1.3 is working. But I'm not sure how to make sure the overheating/draining problem doesn't occur again. After 10 minutes the phone is starting to get hot again, battery is down to 57%. With the phone on or off, it does not charge the battery, even with an AC wall charger. With the phone on, it indicates 57% charge, with the phone off, the battery icon just sits at red, no charging is happening. I erased the battery stats in ClockworkMod, but is there anything else to do? Any other ideas?
It sounds like Haxid had it happen and he got back to LG stock and unrooted, all good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233668
Mine happened again this time totally dead battery. Trying to get some charge in it now to boot and remove cwm so I can take it to verizon.
Decrap 1.0 rom this time w/ CWM
I do not believe it is the rom. It has to be an app or hardware.
Were you having spontaneous reboots? That's when it happened to me, after a spontaneous reboot.
Good luck. Hope it all works out.
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Were you having spontaneous reboots? That's when it happened to me, after a spontaneous reboot.
Good luck. Hope it all works out.
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No my phone is actually super stable it just is sucking battery like its candy. Been off charger only 1 hour right now and its down to 83%. It has to be an app doing it but I have no idea which one. The phone shows 64% battery usage by android system.
When mine was hogging battery, same here. All I saw was Android process.
just to add my 2 cents here. I noticed my phone draining like crazy, I tried everything, then I changed the battery. boom. everything is now stable. I'm going to try to exchange that battery I think its my drain and reboot culprit.
Well, I'm baffled.
Last night I looked down to see my Bionic bootlooping. I let it do its thing and after a few reboots it stopped. Whatever, it's android, it's buggy.
Then when I picked it up, I realized it wasn't even on anymore. I tried to turn it on, nothing. So, I pulled the battery for a minute, popped it back on, and... still nothing.
Long story short, I ended up going to Verizon, trying different batteries, chargers, etc, and I can't get an inch of life out of the phone.
I can see a white LED light up when the phone is connected via the stock USB cable. No other cable will do it, and the wall charger won't do it. I don't know if this really indicates anything or not...
Is there anything else I can even try? It won't even boot into recovery - I never see the red M at all, the screen doesn't so much as even flicker. Unfortunately I bought the phone second hand from an iPhone 4S switcher, so there's nothing I can do to get a warranty replacement.
It's back to my original Droid for now...
I had the same problem Sunday night. Called tech support and they overnight-ed a replacement.
Try holding Volume down + power from the off state for a few seconds then letting go.
Or try Both Volume buttons + Power.
If those do nothing, it sounds like you have a very expensive paperweight. You need a replacement, sorry.
Whatever you do, DO NOT send the phone into Verizon!
Make up some excuse like you lost it or someone stole it or something.
Had my first Bionic do this I said I lost it claimed on my insurance but new one acts up also usually when it's overheating got my old one to fastboot did a complete restore to stock tested it by steaming netflix that lasted for about half an hour now it's just a paper weight!
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Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?
cryptiq said:
Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?
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If it covers your excuse, yeah.
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If it covers your excuse, yeah.
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Based on what details we have from the OP, it doesn't sound like he did anything to damage or modify the phone. So if the phone is stock he should be able to get help from Moto I presume?
what i did was
i had the verizon rep patch me straight through to insurion and got my o.g droid replaced.
I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.
If you haven't messed with any system files and you're completely stock, you can take the phone in for repair.
It's rooted, but there's no way for them to tell if it won't boot.
Motorola's live chat rep offered to let me send it in for RMA repair. The fine print says, though, that the repair stops being free the second they see anything that voids the warranty. My assumption is that they'll never be able to tell it's rooted because they will need to just send a refurb if it's shorted out, but should I bother risking it?
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I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.
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Did you try calling Moto? It would be one thing if the phone has been in the market for say 16 months and then the 1 year warranty period would come into question, but in this case the phone hasn't been out for more 3 months so it should be covered. I could see where they would require a receipt to make sure it was purchased from an authorized reseller vs. a grey market seller, but it's worth a shot to give them a call.
Any chance you can get in touch with the person that sold you the phone?
Same thing happened to me...
Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.
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Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.
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Yeah your computer USB port does not provide enough power to compensate for the draw you will get off LTE. Your phone will eat much more juice than you are giving it. Leaving the battery out allows the phone to fully discharge any built up charges (ever had this with a laptop? Looks like a bad motherboard but you pull out the battery ans hold the power button down to drain the capacitors and then reinstall the battery and instant boot.) Same thing happening here would be my guess.
Leave the battery out overnight or hold the power button down for about 30 seconds. Put the battery back in and let it charge for awhile. Profit?
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So recently bought a 3500mah battery for my phone, and for about a month it was AWESOME. Now I'm having some issues with it.
I can have it on the charger all night but it never goes over 55-65%
Sometimes I can plug it in and it'll say charging but actually does nothing.
I've tried reflashing the teamhacksung's ICS hoping it would fix it, and it fixed the issue where it would connect to the computer but not charge, but the other issues are still there. I've cleared the battery stats, dalvik, did a full restore and just now I've put the original battery in to see how it's going to work with that. Any suggestions/known issues?
Just an update, even after just a few minutes on the old battery it's already went from 51% to 62% charged. I'm beginning to think that maybe it's the 220v power here in Germany, or that I'm just using the stock charger and didn't get a new one with the new battery?
Ugh, second update, on the charger it's gone DOWN to 59%, going to try to reboot and clear the battery stats again.
Charging circuit might have blown capacitor or something. Time to get HTC One X (in lack of GS3).
Unfortunately I'm stationed in Germany, and only for another year or so, so it's pointless for me to get a contract here (plus they're expensive) so I'll wait it out. I have a camera battery charger where you just line up the positive and the negative, and I was planning to just use that when I get home, swap out the batteries when I can.
Is there any 100% certain way to know if the capacitor is blown or if it's the rotation of the Earth and the moons gravitational pull with Jupiter or any other problems that could be causing it?
If you can live with 50% charge, and otherwise things work - bigger battery should make it tolerable.
Get a cheap used phone on the market as a backup. In Europe there's big variety of them.
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My phones been dead for about a month, most hope was given up but heres my last ditch. I updated to android N preview. Used it like normal. The last day (before my phone ate ****) i was having problems charging it. It wasnt accepting the charge almost as if my "Quickcharge 2.0" had stopped. In fact it would discharge while connected to turbo charger. Anyways that day i went swimming, where i live its very hot i left it on the charger near the pool and it had gotten super hot. So i took it off and put it in a chair and it was on again super hot (hot enough that it burnt my hand when i touched the glass) and it was still on it hadnt shut off. Some people there put it in their cooler for me and that was that, although i noticed a burn mark on the actual usb port on the phone itself. Fast forward a few hours. I was skyping some chick got off skype. Turned my phone off in the hopes it would charge faster. ( it was at 13%) plugged it into the charger, Nothing. Tried to turn it on, Nothing. I finally got it to boot up ( i had to press the **** out of the power button) and the google logo came up. Then it turned off. Tried again to power it on. Same thing, google logo dead. Left it on the wall charger for an hour. tried to power it up, nothing. Used a samsung wireless charger on it for close to 3 hours. Tried to power it up. Still nothing. Power + Vol Down. Nope nada. Opened it up checked the wires everything was plugged in and secure. I didnt make it any further than the backplate because i stripped the screws. Since then its just sat on my shelf, but today i dropped it on my foot and i decieded to see if it would turn on, so i plugged it into my pc (and this is honestly the reason im writing this) and i wiggled the charger around and my pc actually "sensed" it. It said that "The usb device has malfunctioned" so idk what that means. Maybe its still there maybe not. Ik that if i can get my pc to recognize it again it will be difficult as that port on the phone is on its LAST leg.
Let me know what you guys think. Sorry for the short story. Just want to make sure you know everything as it happened
Also when i plug it into the wall, or use the Qi charger on it the device heats up/gets warm. Again dont know if its anything but the more the better.
Could be anything really, possibly a bad battery, if the QI charger isn't helping. How old is the device, and when did the usb burn mark appear?
Okay so I am going to give my best guess here, that the battery in your phone has gone bad, and it was killed by your charger going bad with an electrical short circuit.
Here is my reasons for think that...
Currently your phone won't accept a charge at all, so that leads me to believe that the battery has gone bad.
As for my suspicion that your charger went bad, I have had two different quality brand chargers (HTC and Samsung) go bad on me over the last 3 years or so.
Both times the charger failures caused the same symptoms on my phone that you described...the phone getting extremely hot, and the battery discharging, while connected to the charger, instead of charging.
Luckily for me, in both cases, my phone batteries did not completely croak.
In one case the battery did bulge out the phone, but it was an older HTC M7 and it kept working.
In the other case, I noticed that hot phone and the discharging, and immediately unplugged the charger and tossed it in the trash.
So that is just my two-cents.
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Okay so I am going to give my best guess here, that the battery in your phone has gone bad, and it was killed by your charger going bad with an electrical short circuit.
Here is my reasons for think that...
Currently your phone won't accept a charge at all, so that leads me to believe that the battery has gone bad.
As for my suspicion that your charger went bad, I have had two different quality brand chargers (HTC and Samsung) go bad on me over the last 3 years or so.
Both times the charger failures caused the same symptoms on my phone that you described...the phone getting extremely hot, and the battery discharging, while connected to the charger, instead of charging.
Luckily for me, in both cases, my phone batteries did not completely croak.
In one case the battery did bulge out the phone, but it was an older HTC M7 and it kept working.
In the other case, I noticed that hot phone and the discharging, and immediately unplugged the charger and tossed it in the trash.
So that is just my two-cents.
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What advices do you have to avoid this kind of problem?
Okay guys. I would have to check the IMEI to give you hard facts for the dates. Which I can do im just at work. But last I looked it was manufactured in, March of 2014 or close to that. Ik for a fact that he model was an XT1103 it was completely factory unlocked however my bootloader was locked. Storage was encrypted. And it was the 32gb version. Yes! It could quite possibly be my battery.
Before all this started I was having trouble getting it to charge and I was using a Samsung mini USB with it. But the outlets at the pool I don't think are designed to charge phones. Anyways the burn mark on my USB port showed up the same day. I just didn't notice it (I think) until later that day,but after I got it my phone no longer charged. It would either discharge off the charger, or discharge slower on it.
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What advices do you have to avoid this kind of problem?
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Sorry for the delay in replying...RF got in the way.
Anyways...I really can't offer much 'technical advice'. I can, however, offer some practical advice.
1. Use brand name chargers or be careful if you do use an off-brand charger.
2. If you are charging your phone (either on a brand name charger or an off-brand charger), and you either feel it getting hot or you see it discharging (or both) immediately unplug your phone and throw away the charger.
3. If you do notice that the battery on your phone is bulging, either replace the battery or if it is a sealed device, replace the phone.
Honestly, that is the only advice I can give.
So guys ive decided i m gonna go ahead and try and replace my battery since its rather inexpensive, im gonna order the parts from ifixit. such as anew midframe and battery. It should be done hopefully by next week. Im still completely open to opinions. When its complete ill make a post.
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Sorry for the delay in replying...RF got in the way.
Anyways...I really can't offer much 'technical advice'. I can, however, offer some practical advice.
1. Use brand name chargers or be careful if you do use an off-brand charger.
2. If you are charging your phone (either on a brand name charger or an off-brand charger), and you either feel it getting hot or you see it discharging (or both) immediately unplug your phone and throw away the charger.
3. If you do notice that the battery on your phone is bulging, either replace the battery or if it is a sealed device, replace the phone.
Honestly, that is the only advice I can give.
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In my case, i use aukey quick charge 2.0 and it works great, when i charge the phone, i do it on the night and try to not use when it charge, i dont like to charge with scrap chargers, but thanks for the advice, i will take care on that :laugh:
Alright well today my screwdrivers (ordered from china) came i disassembled the phone, havent gotten my battery yet but theres some things i would like to note. The first being that the old battery had alot of corrosion along with its contact to to mobo. ill update when i get the new battery in.
Hi guys,
I normally charge my p20 pro every night. Plugging in an hour ago, I recognized that supercharge doesn't work. Sometimes charging completely stops.
Tried to reboot, nothing changes...
Installed battery app and see that maximum charging current is about 1700 mah.
Does anyone now what it could be?
Tried another charger, same situation. Tried different cable, same situation. P20 from my girlfriend on my charger and supercharge works fine.
Thx Benny
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Must be a fault with your phone if thought tried another known good charger and it still doesn't work.
Another strange behavior is that sometimes charging stops. And sometimes usb options pop up like if you connect to a computer... But phone is on charger.
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Sounds like hardware issue. Get a replacement.
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Hi there, I've been dealing with the same issue as you for the past few days. Mine I can confirm has resolved automatically. Do you expose your device to water or moisture alot? I believe that the p20 has been optimized for safety incase the phone is ever dealt with moisture in the charging port. My issue was that the phone kept saying 'supplying power to connected USB device' when in reality, there was no device connected to the phone in the first place. This was on the night I had dipped the device in water, it appears the USB port is more susceptible to being affected by moisture than any other area of the device. I have taken note that while the charging port is wet, the phone does not enter supercharging. As for how I was able to resolve this issue, I first used a blower to clean any dust or debris in the charging port, this allowed the device to return to its normal state and not think that it is connected to another device. However, this still didn't allow supercharging to work, the following day i was desperate to get this fixed without taking it to the service center. And it would still only show 'charging' and not 'supercharging' whenever I connected the device to the charger (it would actually show super charging for a split second and then going back to charging). I finally decided to just clean the port with water instead (I know this might sound risky and stupid) and so I did it. When I tried plugging it in again it would not supercharge, but i already had anticipated this. Instead, I waited for the next couple of hours for the water to dry out and when it did, finally super charge was working once again. So my suggestion to you is:
1) Clean the charging port as well as you can, and have some patience (incase you do end up using water, as the phone does not super charge when it finds the port to be wet.) Also if you do end up using a pin or something similar make sure to gently wipe away the debris (if any) and be careful not to damage any of the connectors of the port.
2) disconnect the charging adapter and make sure it is plugged out for atleast 30 minutes before plugging the cable and adapter again.
3) if these don't help you then you should definitely go to the service centre.
EDIT: IF YOU DO USE WATER PLEASE MAKE SURE TO ONLY USE A SMALL AMOUNT AND NOT BATHE THE CHARGING PORT IN WATER!!
Thx psycho!
My phone got wet yesterday and the day before. Today morning supercharge works again. Yesterday evening the phone said normal charging but not plugged into wall. Only plugged the charger into phone.
That might be a symptom of a short circuit by water.
I got an app to measure the current ampere.
Does anyone know how much ampere the p20 takes from the charger?
I know that the charger goes down with the ampere when getting near 100%.
I will take a measurement in the afternoon again when supercharging.
How long should I take to get from 30 percent to 90 percent for example?
I hope it's not a hardware problem...
Thx guys.
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You're welcome! I couldn't find any solutions online too so I get how you feel. I think it's just the way they programmed this phone, it won't super charge when it detects any kind of moisture underneath it, when that dries up it goes back to normal so it charges as it should. As for the max current you should expect it to be around 4800 mA - 4900 mA on lower battery levels. Expect this to decrease over time but that is normal, it's just how Huawei's super charging works to ensure that your battery lasts longer and is safe to use. So if it charges above 4000 mA when you first plug it in you should be good. You'll notice the phone starts of slow but as each second passes by the charging speed rises. Also expect charging to slow down on heavy uses such as gaming and when the phone is hot. I think you should be fine as long as the phone continously says that it's super charging at all battery levels. Expect a 0-100% in about 1h 20 minutes.
Below is an example of the max current speeds I get out supercharging but note that this varies slightly depending on battery percentage.
This happened to me too ?
It has been 4 days since my phone got wet and it still doesn't support suppercharge. What do I do? ? Currently charging at 1700 mA according to Ampere
markabes23 said:
It has been 4 days since my phone got wet and it still doesn't support suppercharge. What do I do? ? Currently charging at 1700 mA according to Ampere
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Have some patience. As long as the phone displays supercharging in the lockscreen it's fine. It's also possible that there's still moisture in the charging port/battery area that the phone detects which is preventing it from supercharging. I recommend drying the phone thoroughly and waiting. If it doesn't work within a week I recommend factory resetting your device and/or trying a different cable and adapter. If nothing works, i recommend taking your device to the service center. I have personally experienced this myself and the issue had resolved itself within 3-4 of occurance.
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Have some patience. As long as the phone displays supercharging in the lockscreen it's fine. It's also possible that there's still moisture in the charging port/battery area that the phone detects which is preventing it from supercharging. I recommend drying the phone thoroughly and waiting. If it doesn't work within a week I recommend factory resetting your device and/or trying a different cable and adapter. If nothing works, i recommend taking your device to the service center. I have personally experienced this myself and the issue had resolved itself within 3-4 of occurance.
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Yes, Charging will appear and then the device will say SuperCharging and will go back to Charging a split second after. Haaaay. This is so frustrating. Today marks the 5th day
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Yes, Charging will appear and then the device will say SuperCharging and will go back to Charging a split second after. Haaaay. This is so frustrating. Today marks the 5th day
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I had the same issue, except that before it wouldn't say supercharging for even a split second and it would only say charging. Overtime though, the phone eventually started saying supercharging for a split second (just like in your case). I feel as though this is a good sign.
Avoid charging your phone overnight if you can, it isn't good for the phone, heat etc, supposed to shut off and not allow anything through but it still does and it's best avoided.
In regards to your device not taking the full effect.
It does actually sound like a fault, allow a complete discharge (also something you shouldn't do) then give it a shot, plug straight into a wall rather than an extension.
Other than that I'd say RMA.
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Avoid charging your phone overnight if you can, it isn't good for the phone, heat etc, supposed to shut off and not allow anything through but it still does and it's best avoided.
In regards to your device not taking the full effect.
It does actually sound like a fault, allow a complete discharge (also something you shouldn't do) then give it a shot, plug straight into a wall rather than an extension.
Other than that I'd say RMA.
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It's been proven that keeping charger connected at 100% charge does not damage the battery and some times it's even good to discharge the phone completely so battery is 0% since it helps the battery and operating system to keep proper % level registered. Since it has happened that battery begins to think at 45% is 0% and 100% is 100% so when it reaches 45% it shuts down and tells you batter is empty 0%. This is because battery has been miss calibrated in the operating system which has an file that registers which point battery is empty and full. So this is why emptying the battery fully few times does help calibration to stay correctly with 0% as 0% and 100% as 100%.
For the OP it seems somethings odd with supercharge, could be USB port on the phone, USB controler on main board or the charger and cable.
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It's been proven that keeping charger connected at 100% charge does not damage the battery and some times it's even good to discharge the phone completely so battery is 0% since it helps the battery and operating system to keep proper % level registered. Since it has happened that battery begins to think at 45% is 0% and 100% is 100% so when it reaches 45% it shuts down and tells you batter is empty 0%. This is because battery has been miss calibrated in the operating system which has an file that registers which point battery is empty and full. So this is why emptying the battery fully few times does help calibration to stay correctly with 0% as 0% and 100% as 100%.
For the OP it seems somethings odd with supercharge, could be USB port on the phone, USB controler on main board or the charger and cable.
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OMFG there is always one, Lol i'm not going to go into this any more than i absolutely have to.
To put it mildly, you're completely wrong, and i don't care what you've read, please understand physics, if you push power towards something and continue that pressure, whether electric or otherwise, something has to take the brunt of that force, capacitors can't do this forever, which is why they burn out.
I've worked in the mobile industry for over 20 years, i've seen what 6 months of charging every single device on the planet does EVERY SINGLE TIM, iPhones down to nokia 100's
Please don't go on about this, i've seen this 1,000's of times on 1,000's of devices.
Your battery will either bloat or lose efficiency, or your actual device will inherit anomalies, i really do not have time to type what i typed nearly 10 years ago so you can understand.
Don't talk to me about capacitors, which is the only thing which is stopping that charge from getting to the motherboard of the device.
The only reason you should charge your device overnight is because your provider wants your device to die so you can buy another, and that's IT.
I've seen a battery which was a highly rated lithium battery stretch a device in half with industrial sized screws, the battery stretched from 0.4" to 2.2 inches.
The only thing i did was to charge it a lot and it split the device in half (same device used to diagnose mercedes benz cars and BMW's)
Please don't drop "it's been proven" in here, you're very very wrong and the only person you're helping is your provider.
You make your decision who you'd like to listen to, i can't be arsed arguing any more than i already have.
To the OP.
RMA your phone, that's not right.
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OMFG there is always one, Lol i'm not going to go into this any more than i absolutely have to.
To put it mildly, you're completely wrong, and i don't care what you've read, please understand physics, if you push power towards something and continue that pressure, whether electric or otherwise, something has to take the brunt of that force, capacitors can't do this forever, which is why they burn out.
I've worked in the mobile industry for over 20 years, i've seen what 6 months of charging every single device on the planet does EVERY SINGLE TIM, iPhones down to nokia 100's
Please don't go on about this, i've seen this 1,000's of times on 1,000's of devices.
Your battery will either bloat or lose efficiency, or your actual device will inherit anomalies, i really do not have time to type what i typed nearly 10 years ago so you can understand.
Don't talk to me about capacitors, which is the only thing which is stopping that charge from getting to the motherboard of the device.
The only reason you should charge your device overnight is because your provider wants your device to die so you can buy another, and that's IT.
I've seen a battery which was a highly rated lithium battery stretch a device in half with industrial sized screws, the battery stretched from 0.4" to 2.2 inches.
The only thing i did was to charge it a lot and it split the device in half (same device used to diagnose mercedes benz cars and BMW's)
Please don't drop "it's been proven" in here, you're very very wrong and the only person you're helping is your provider.
You make your decision who you'd like to listen to, i can't be arsed arguing any more than i already have.
To the OP.
RMA your phone, that's not right.
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To bad for you then, since your fact are wrong. It's been proven my bigger professionals out there that it's a myth that battery gets damaged when keeping charger connected at 100% since when it reaches 100% charge point it will stop charging the battery, but mobile will still be running from Charger. So yeah just admit you are wrong, i'm not the one that's wrong.
Also they did say one thing, damage did occur only on very old batteries that exsisted years ago, then those kind of batteries couldn't handle and would become damaged when charger was connected at 100% and it was different type of battery back then as well. Now we got something called Ion battery which can handle the full charge better than old batteries did.
Also idc how many years you been working with phones, alot of people still think wrong and have wrong facts still.
But now your words are against over 10 or more proffessionals out there that has proven opisit answer, so yeah just admit you are one with wrong facts.
Not last but least, alot of people take old facts with new batteries and still belives that battery are affected same way. But answer is no it isn't affected same way. lithium ion is another kind of battery we use for quite few years now. But before lithium ion came then it was a another kind of battery that did not handle itself well with 100% charge and would easily wear out alot quicker and get damaged.
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To bad for you then, since your fact are wrong. It's been proven my bigger professionals out there that it's a myth that battery gets damaged when keeping charger connected at 100% since when it reaches 100% charge point it will stop charging the battery, but mobile will still be running from Charger. So yeah just admit you are wrong, i'm not the one that's wrong.
Also they did say one thing, damage did occur only on very old batteries that exsisted years ago, then those kind of batteries couldn't handle and would become damaged when charger was connected at 100% and it was different type of battery back then as well. Now we got something called Ion battery which can handle the full charge better than old batteries did.
Also idc how many years you been working with phones, alot of people still think wrong and have wrong facts still.
But now your words are against over 10 or more proffessionals out there that has proven opisit answer, so yeah just admit you are one with wrong facts.
Not last but least, alot of people take old facts with new batteries and still belives that battery are affected same way. But answer is no it isn't affected same way. lithium ion is another kind of battery we use for quite few years now. But before lithium ion came then it was a another kind of battery that did not handle itself well with 100% charge and would easily wear out alot quicker and get damaged.
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Lol ok as I said I'm not going to go into it
You overcharge your phone and see how you get on.
Tell me have you ever got anything close to these battery stats for SOT
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/screen-time-leaderboard-post-longest-sot-t3780178
14 hours 20 mins?
No I know you haven't
You carry on and I'll do my thing.
Max up time for an iPhone 6 183 hours.
That's a week to you.
I know you have never seen these numbers.
But whilst you're sitting there with your head in the sand overcharging your phone every night lol.
Spare a moment for what you could have.
Don't spread crap without proof.
I have tangible proof I've seen and had to replace devices because of it. Screens, batteries, buttons.
I've seen more kit then you'll ever see.
You carry on the way you are but don't tell people to do what you do. It's idiotic and until you realise that you'll believe what you've read.
FYI you're relying on capacitors.
The second they fail your screwed.
Lol lithium is lithium..
You charge it it expands, please try to understand the logistics and dynamics of what your are attempting to talk about.
Or I'll tell you what, you keep overcharging your poor phone and I won't and we'll see who's phone lasts the longest after a year. I promise you I'll put you to shame.
You're taking someone else's word you don't know over someone with first hand experience of this behaviour
On your head be it
Supercharging Works Again!
So after 11 days my p20 pro's ability to supercharge is back and Im so relived. Thanks for all your help!
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So after 11 days my p20 pro's ability to supercharge is back and Im so relived. Thanks for all your help!
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Did you noticably change anything? Or does it appear random?
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Did you noticably change anything? Or does it appear random?
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It just appears randomly. When I was at work earlier, it worked. But now that I'm home and I plugged in my phone it doesn't work again. It just promps every once in a while. It's like trying to supercharge and something is stopping my phone from doing it
my pro had a swim last night, and now it doesn't charge at all..