So I thought my FRF91 had issues but now I'm thinking it's heat.
I was using FRF91 with Google Maps Navigation plugged into a cheap eBay car charger.
Within 20-30 seconds of running Navigation, the phone would reboot.
I did this 3 times in a row, and it would reboot.
I went back to FRF85B, and all was well.
Then I was thinking, the phone was pretty hot when this happened, I checked *#*#INFO#*#* and on FRF91 when it rebooted it was like 38C!!!
(Also on FRF85B, the Temp was in F and not C... weird).
Anyways, today I was driving around back on FRF91 and it crashed again (not plugged in) but was sitting on the dash and it got hot.
So anyone know, is FRF91 pretty sensitive to heat that it would reboot if it goes over a certain temp?
Anyone using a "brand" name car charger? Does your phone heat up?
I have a Belkin charger, and when using Navigation you could almost fry an egg on the thing.
same, i typically use nav and stream music in the N1 car dock, thing gets damn hot. wondering if i should put some sort of shade around it on the top ...
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So I thought my FRF91 had issues but now I'm thinking it's heat.
I was using FRF91 with Google Maps Navigation plugged into a cheap eBay car charger.
Within 20-30 seconds of running Navigation, the phone would reboot.
I did this 3 times in a row, and it would reboot.
I went back to FRF85B, and all was well.
Then I was thinking, the phone was pretty hot when this happened, I checked *#*#INFO#*#* and on FRF91 when it rebooted it was like 38C!!!
(Also on FRF85B, the Temp was in F and not C... weird).
Anyways, today I was driving around back on FRF91 and it crashed again (not plugged in) but was sitting on the dash and it got hot.
So anyone know, is FRF91 pretty sensitive to heat that it would reboot if it goes over a certain temp?
Anyone using a "brand" name car charger? Does your phone heat up?
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I don't know if this would be of any help, but since FRF91, when i charge my phone over USB (plugged on the computer), my phone gets auround 41°/42° C.
For information, it happens on MCR21 with default kernel, and just by letting the phone charging with screen on.
And since there, no reboot at all.
So i'm not sure your reboot prob would be heat related
If I'm running something heavy while charging on the car, I at least point the vent to it and turn it up to blow a good amount of air on it.. If it's hot, I'll go ahead and turn on the AC.
Kinda sucks gas milage, as I almost never use AC otherwise, but keeps the phone cool.
Anyone else have reboot with heat issues? I'm right now listening to podcast, and charging my phone and bam it reboots, then within 2 minutes it reboots again.
I check the temp and it's 38C. I pop out the battery and it's not even warm!!!!! The phone itself was hot. I unplug it and within 2 minutes the temp calls down to 35C.
Anyone got any ideas? This is all stock ATT Nexus One FRF91.
Pretty useless if I can't use the dang phone when it's charging.
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Ok good its not only me that noticed the heating issue..charging my phone it gets bananas and using the net is bad as well..going back to 85b
I'm having the exact same issue. Every time my phone gets even a little bit hot, it reboots itself. Maybe it's an issue with the ATT/Rogers N1 specifically, since the only people I've seen who have the problem are on those phones.
Same issue here. Was driving back up to CT from D.C. yesterday and the phone reboot during Google Navigation use.
Funny thing is, when I used it last week to drive down there for the holiday, there were no issues.
Could it have been the fact that it was scorching hot even with the AC running?
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I'm using N1 in Indonesia, tropical country with glaring sun all the time
Yesterday I'm trying to use sat nav without charging in the car, yes it was hot to touch
but never reboots, I'm also on FRF91.
But I think if the battery didn't die first it would reboot due its high temp.
I think what we experienced here is result of constant high usage of data + gps
Jreddekopp said:
I'm having the exact same issue. Every time my phone gets even a little bit hot, it reboots itself. Maybe it's an issue with the ATT/Rogers N1 specifically, since the only people I've seen who have the problem are on those phones.
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No I have the Tmobile version (i'm using WIND) and it get mad hot..Through charging and anything net related (i only use wifi). As well connected to usb (obviously since it also charges).
My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
That waste heat may be a really stupid engineering problem, BUT, I've had my phone overclocked, plugged in to a 2A charger brick, but in USB mode, incredibly hot to the touch and showing 43deg or more while running graphics benchmarks or games, and I've never seen a problem. If "only" 38deg is giving you heat-related issues, that seems like a defect, and I'd look to get a warranty replacement before the board dies.
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My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
That waste heat may be a really stupid engineering problem, BUT, I've had my phone overclocked, plugged in to a 2A charger brick, but in USB mode, incredibly hot to the touch and showing 43deg or more while running graphics benchmarks or games, and I've never seen a problem. If "only" 38deg is giving you heat-related issues, that seems like a defect, and I'd look to get a warranty replacement before the board dies.
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completely agree but whats funny as the heat issue never happened with froyo 50-85
Hmmm. My problem is not simply the heat, but the fact that the slightest bit of heat seems to cause my N1 to reboot itself. Anyone having similar issues, or perhaps suggestions on what I can do? I've unlocked my bootloader, but I'm running stock firmware. Hopefully this isn't a hardware issue
My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
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This absolutely does not happen. The charge is limited by the power supply, the phone is pretty much "blind" to the source. A more likely cause is the phone is TRYING to pull the .5A of charge and only getting .45A, causing to attempt to compensate and thus running more inefficiently. Also, as far as heat goes, do you turn the screen off out leaver out on while charging the device?
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This absolutely does not happen. The charge is limited by the power supply, the phone is pretty much "blind" to the source. A more likely cause is the phone is TRYING to pull the .5A of charge and only getting .45A, causing to attempt to compensate and thus running more inefficiently. Also, as far as heat goes, do you turn the screen off out leaver out on while charging the device?
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REEEEEAAAAALY?
I sincerely hope that you meant to say that this absolutely does not happen to YOU.
There's been a ton about this, on this forum. There are two pins in the USB connection that, if they are open (like on a computer or with most chargers), cause the Nexus to see itself in "USB" mode, and to not draw more than ~.45-.50A. If those two pins are shorted, you get "AC" mode, and the phone will take up to about 1A.
I use several different bricks with the Nexus (iPhone brick - [email protected], iPad brick - spec'd as 10watt, several different thrid-party AC/USB bricks - all between 1.6 and 2.0A @ 5V, Milestone charger .9A @ 5.9v) and get the same story out of all of them - USB mode and a hot phone (36-38C with the screen off and the phone relatively inactive) during charging. I've never had the slightest performance problem, so I don't worry about it. If I use stock the N1 charger OR one other off-brand (so off-brand that there is nothing useful written on the case other than 2.0A @ 5V) charger, I get "AC" mode - where the phone accepts about .95A @5V, and does NOT get hot (32-34C during charge). This has been consistent with Eclair (stock and several Cyanogens) and every version of Froyo (FRF50, FRF83, FRF85B and FRF91).
My old BB Bold 9000 pulled over 1.5A @ 5V out of all of the 2A chargers that I have - it would fully charge in under an hour without getting hot. My wife's Curve 8900 charges fast as well - so I know that the chargers can do it. It's just the HTC hardware that limits the draw.
I say HTC, because I have confirmed the EXACT SAME behavior on a friend's HTC Desire. He was wondering why it took him all day to charge the phone off of a non-HTC power brick.
The phone is ABSOLUTELY not blind in this - it is the one drawing the current. I suspect that the USB-mode draw is just poorly done (at least on some phones), and there there is some leak. Maybe a specific hardware revision?
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completely agree but whats funny as the heat issue never happened with froyo 50-85
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That is weird, because it definitely did happen to me (using a plethora of different kernels and speeds). Are you running anything else non-stock (kernel, OC, UV, etc.) that you were not running before?
That is weird, because it definitely did happen to me (using a plethora of different kernels and speeds). Are you running anything else non-stock (kernel, OC, UV, etc.) that you were not running before?[/QUOTE]i just put back in paul froyo 50 and it heats a littel when charged but nothing out of the norm from many devices i've charged. The only other froyo i've used was Kang o rama (85B) which doesnt heat up for me..as soon as i put in any froyo 91 in i get mad heat...I currently gonna test with applications as maybe its an app that is causing it somehow..I could be completely wrong but worth a try..But as I said i'm back to pauls froyo 50 and no heating issues
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i just put back in paul froyo 50 and it heats a littel when charged but nothing out of the norm from many devices i've charged. The only other froyo i've used was Kang o rama (85B) which doesnt heat up for me..as soon as i put in any froyo 91 in i get mad heat...I currently gonna test with applications as maybe its an app that is causing it somehow..I could be completely wrong but worth a try..But as I said i'm back to pauls froyo 50 and no heating issues
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As long as you've got a running, reliable phone that does what you want and doesn't catch fire, you don't need the highest version number (says the guy who is now running CM nightly builds...).
If you feel like figuring out what is killing off your phone:
First, take a good backup!
Then, do a factory wipe and reload FRF91.
See if you get the same behavior. If you do, it's 91 on your phone. If not, it's one of your apps.
So, if you do not see the "unusual" heating, try restoring your applications and running them like you usually would. Try using a script (if you are up to it) or OS Monitor plus a logcat to see what is eating you up.
yeah i originally put in the old radio and went back to emother's 1.9.2...then put in pauls froyo 50 (which included the new radio). So far added my apps and no extreme heat. Only when on wi-fi but the heat i'm getting was the same i normal got in the beginning and minimal heat when ac charging (before it would get extremely hot). When i come home from work imma try his froyo 91. I'm thinkin it also is stemming from a game Hero of Sparta and a facebook chat app. If i'm correct thats when i first noticed heat issues. but could be wrong i'll let you know
when i have my phone in my car dock i have one of the vents in my car pointed at the thing blasting AC all over it!
helps so much!
So my HTC One does something really weird sometimes and im afraid if this keeps going on something bad will happen to it.
since i got 5 months ago this has happened like 4-5 times. and i charge it every night. so, sometimes when I charge it and go to bed I wake up and check the phone and even though it was charging when I left it it has only charged for like 20% and even though its connnected to the charger the charging icon wont show. plus the phone is too hot. and i dont mean warm or hot on the back. I mean too hot to touch everywhere, not only the back. Everywhere it has aluminium its too hot. this has only happened 4-5 times and I immediately take it off the charger wait a bit to cool off and then start charging it again and everything is fine. While its hot no warnings pop up and the phone works just fine, but its extremely hot and even though its connected to the charger it doesnt charge. why is that?
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Hey,
This might be a problem with the charger.
Try using the original charging set provided with the phone.
Is there anything you do with the phone that may be considered out of the normal when you charge it?
Worst-case scenario, this might be a hardware fault. In that case you should be able to claim it under warranty.
Good Luck
Something similar happens to me on occasion. It'll be plugged in but when viewing in/out mah, it actually shows it's draining. Less than when it was unplugged, but still draining although it says ac plugged in. (using battery monitor to view btw). When it does that, and it's left plugged in (like overnight), it's abnormally hot when I check it. I have to unplug it and then plug it back in (sometimes a few times) before charging levels go back to norm.
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It happened on me for 1 or 2 times as well, the only different is mine is not really hot. After i flashed custom rom, it seems everything is fine. I guess maybe there are some bugs in the original rom. Now i am using the rom based on google edition. Good luck
I am using the original charger and it does this but it also have done this with a samsung charger i have used some times. something else that I noticed is that when I'm charging and using the phone sometimes the battery percentage drops.
My Z1 has started playing silly games, it no longer charges properly! It will be fine for a while, typically ten minutes or so, then it will pop up a warning message saying the connected power source isn't charging the battery. It will then drain faster than it can charge. Last night for example I put it on charge around 7pm with 67% and took it off at 8am this morning, but it's dropped to 3%. I've tried various chargers and cables, the dock, all 3 of my magnetic cables (how I normally it charge anyway) and tried all the usual methods of reset such as holding the red button under the SIM port down. Nothing works. It started around two weeks ago, since then I have flashed another firmware but the problem persists.
My phone is currently plugged into a 2 amp capable magnetic dock plug with the Sony plug that comes in the box. Just typing this message it's drained the battery 9% while on charge, wifi on and network off, screen brightness down and no other apps open.
I've spoken to Sony and they won't do anything, my rear glass is cracked so they won't even look at it and they seem to think it's water damage! The phone hasn't ever seen water so that's a load of BS from them.
What can I do?
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Use the normal USB charger
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Use the normal USB charger
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That doesn't work, the problem still persists. That's the first charger I tried when the handset started not taking a charge.
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Looks like you need a new device as it could be when the back cracked the battery got moisture (not direct) infected
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AndroidDan said:
Looks like you need a new device as it could be when the back cracked the battery got moisture (not direct) infected
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Greaaaaaaat. That's the last thing I need :-S I've just tried my girlfriends iPhone charger and it seems to charge it, very slowly. I will have to dig my Blackberry out as a back up and see how the Z1 goes.
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I have the same problem after updating to KitKat. I'm using dock station too, but not the one that came with my phone (I didn't got any with it).
I put my phone to charge, and after 5-10 minutes it starts to show the message. One time I found my phone drained till 0% in the morning. So, I found a simple solution for my phone. Before I put the phone to charge, I turn it off, wait 2-3 seconds then turn it on. I immediately put the phone to the dock in the boot process. That's the only way I can properly charge my phone.
Hope this will help you...
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I have the same problem after updating to KitKat. I'm using dock station too, but not the one that came with my phone (I didn't got any with it).
I put my phone to charge, and after 5-10 minutes it starts to show the message. One time I found my phone drained till 0% in the morning. So, I found a simple solution for my phone. Before I put the phone to charge, I turn it off, wait 2-3 seconds then turn it on. I immediately put the phone to the dock in the boot process. That's the only way I can properly charge my phone.
Hope this will help you...
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Excellent! I will have a go and see if it works for me, Thankyou!
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Hey guys anyone experiencing problems with fast charging not working, tried using the moto fast charge cable and charger and still nothing. Seems. Like after the Roger update it only works like 20 percent of the time
I have the same problem after I updated my note 5. I'm just waiting for Google to push another update to fix their f*#$ up.
Yes, works most of the time (90% of the time). Using all equipment that came with phone. Fast charging hasn't worked probably 4 times over the past month. Will unplug/plug back in a few times then magically starts working.
no issues on Rogers here
So I went to the AT&T place to see what the problem was. The guy there switched the wall adapter that went with my charger to a newer one of the same model, and my fast charging capabilities came back. The fix was simple. The problem was in my Travel Adapter.
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I do not know if that will help you but to be sure if fast charging is working or not, you need to plug it in and turn it off. Then, you should have 3 green LED lights flashing. If only one is flashing, then it is normal charge. If 3 are flashing, then this is the fast charging.
Earlier today my device froze and randomly shut off during use while at 70-ish% battery. Since then I haven't been able to turn it on even just to the bootloader (the device won't turn on whatsoever). I've also tried USB charging through my PC, my wireless charger, and the charger that came with my device to no avail. It's not water damaged as the indicator shows nothing and I haven't dropped it. If anyone has any idea on what the issue would be or how to fix it I would be very thankful.
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Earlier today my device froze and randomly shut off during use while at 70-ish% battery. Since then I haven't been able to turn it on even just to the bootloader (the device won't turn on whatsoever). I've also tried USB charging through my PC, my wireless charger, and the charger that came with my device to no avail. Also, when charging the phone doesn't seem to get any hotter that when it's not so it might be a battery issue, although the phone is only 4 months old. It's not water damaged as the indicator shows nothing and I haven't dropped it. If anyone has any idea on what the issue would be or how to fix it I would be very thankful.
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Same exact issue with mine. Mine was around 9% and went black and will do nothing now. I'm waiting for a replacement now. I'm assuming it's a battery failure.
I was searching around and came across an older thread on here with someone that had the issue as well. They RMA'd their phone and the motherboard & battery were replaced.
This happened to me. I just sent it to motorola they replaced it with another
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What step did you guys take on get it replaced? Especially when I dont have the imei on the devices?
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