Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
If any UK users can tell me how easy a UK order is
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.
The Desire SenseUI isn't the same as the HD2's SenseUI so loving it on one doesn't mean you'll love it on the other.
It's very easy to order from the UK, mine took 3/4 days to arrive (ordered Tuesday evening, arrived Friday). Everything works fine... the so called 'T-Mobile' version has all the right frequencies for the UK and it comes with the right locale settings for us.
Get N1, put MoDaCo ROM on it and you'll have Sense UI
I had Desire here in the UK, but it turned out to be not geeky enough for me, so I sold it and got Nexus One.
Personally I love the trackball on the N1. The light is awesome. I missed that the most from my blackberry perl when I used an iPhone.
Just my opinion I for not live in the UK so I can't really comment on the specifics for the area.
I bought an N1 and still would if I had to make the choice again. Although I did like SenseUI, it simply wasn't important enough when comparing it against how quick the N1 will get OS updates over other Android devices. The N1 and Desire are very similar phones performance wise, whereas newer Android devices have a better camera etc these two are virtually identical. Therefore it comes down to a pretty simple choice, how quick do you want updates
I appreciate what your saying, and accept that the Sense isn't the same, but while not the same I can see the appeal.
As for the 'T-Mobile' version do I have to specify it at point of sale?
The Modaco Rom looks most interesting i'll investigate it and see what happens. So far i'm leaning more to the N1.
BTW I heard a rumor Google were stop selling the N1 themselves is this true?
They will not sell N1 via the website, but it will still be available via carriers. In the US it will only be T-Mobile, because everyone else decided to not sell N1 and sell Evo 4G and Incredible instead.
In the UK, there should be more carriers, but for now it's only Vodafone as far as I know.
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
nexus one - t-mobile uk owner
diablous said:
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
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it's still for sale at the mo, but a recent googlerumour (tm) said they'd soon be stopping the http://google.com/phone purchase store, only having links to carriers.
I bought one a few months back, first android phone (came from a HTC touch Pro (pm me if anyone wants to buy)) and have to say it is a ruddy good phone, total cost including import tax was a fair bit but still less than having a contract @ £35 a month for 18 months min.
I'm happy with mine and would do the same again.
Personally I like the N1 better. I have an N1 and my brother-in-law has the Desire. Both are nice phones but I liked android stock, speech-to-text and noise cancellation. The sense UI does give the perception of a more polished phone, though, which is ideal if you just want that polished experience and don't care for fiddling around with rooting and different roms. My brother-in-law isn't a geek and just wanted a smartphone to use for social networks and to replace his tom-tom, so the Desire is ideal for him too.
They're basically the same phone and it all depends on how you'll use it. For me, no other phone has voice dictation and noise cancellation and so the N1 stands out from all the rest.
Word of advice:
DO NOT BUY THE UK CHARGER
It's not worth it, I use an 80p shaver plug from ASDA with the supplied US charger.
After extended looking at the two phones the Sense UI is starting to win me over... The Nexus 1 is the modders phone, but what are the widgets like? Sense look really good and useful.
I would say if your going to stick to Stock then Get the Samsung Galaxy S I hear its amazingly Fast!! but if you want to Root get the nexus one.
it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
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it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
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Then it has to be the N1.
Desire isnt as easy to root. The current root for it doesnt allow you to write to the filesystem if I understand corectly. So if you want to have the most options available to you, I would go for the N1.
WARNING
You should also be aware that the total cost on googles site is not the total cost at all, when ordering to the UK you will be charged a variety of taxes including VAT and customs tax etc etc which make the phone alot more expensive. I personally recomend you buying the phone from a friend with an upgrade coming on Voda, most people find it hard to turn down £400 cash. Thats just my 2 pence
You only pay VAT at 17.5%. There's no duties or customs taxes on the phone itself.
You only pay duty on accesories, eg the UK plug - which is pointless - just use a US to UK adapter for 50p
Hello folks,
I have been a loyal HTC customer for several years and I love my Android. But I am interested in the Motorola Atrix that is coming out for it's specs and large screen. However, I have been hearing bad tings about how Motorola is locking down their phones making it difficult and risky to customize.
Is this still true? Will this be a problem with Atrix? Do I need to just keep waiting for HTC to release something comparable?
Thanks!
dude, i'm a motorola milestone user. they promised us that froyo will be in our device last year but till now its still not in our phone (not the official one). and motorola has this habit of locking all their phones(except the original droid).
so my suggestion to you is, don't buy motorola phones until they have a better bootloader policy(like nexus one and nexus s). and spread it to all.
Hm, thats what I was afraid of. Too bad, but I guess they figure they don't need the sales that much.
Hi, i found a guy selling his G1 on the web, her in Portugal. I own an HTC Diamond, as you know i can´t, unless with haret, have android on my phone. I've tried it and fell in love with Android. Is it worth it to buy the phone? The guy ask for about €60. I know the specs are somewhat similar to the Diamond, but it runs native Android. For +/- the same price i can buy, new, some ZTE or Huawei phone, but nothing that compares to the "feelling" of holding an HTC. What do you guys think, is it a good deal? Or for this price is a way too outdated smartphone??
Thanks in advance for your replies.
tvasconcelos said:
Hi, i found a guy selling his G1 on the web, her in Portugal. I own an HTC Diamond, as you know i can´t, unless with haret, have android on my phone. I've tried it and fell in love with Android. Is it worth it to buy the phone? The guy ask for about €60. I know the specs are somewhat similar to the Diamond, but it runs native Android. For +/- the same price i can buy, new, some ZTE or Huawei phone, but nothing that compares to the "feelling" of holding an HTC. What do you guys think, is it a good deal? Or for this price is a way too outdated smartphone??
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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HTC Dream (no doubt great phone itself) but as u said, it's way too outdated, u rather go for Hero (atleast supports Adobe Flash), Using HTC G1 since it's release, If u just wanna use Android as just basic & not function freak, just go for it (it'll make u buy next gen Android)
But if you wanna enjoy Android at it's best, go for Hero (cause of it's SENSE UI & support for Eclair Officially) OR some Moto Droids ...............
If you wanna spend money & wanna use it all for years, I suggest go for some updated device (i.e. nexus 1/S, Droid, Galaxy etc)
but if u wanna go for some old great devices, u surely wanna go for HTC Hero OR G1 .............
I bought a G1 in Nov. 2010,I am loving it so much.
But honestly,the ram of G1 is too small.many games can't be run on G1.
If you have enough money,you'd better buy a better android phone such as desire,defy...
I recently gave a friend my g1 and got a vibrant but I would buy another g1 for testing things out such as flashing roms.
I sent this from my Vibrant!
If you want a working, stable and reliable phone then you can't go wrong with the G1.
But if you are planning on playing 3D games or expecting significantspeed then the G1 will not suffice.
I love my HTC dream don't get me wrong, I'd also recommend a great Donut Rom or the one in my signature.
Sent from my illmatic Inspire 4G / Desire HD
I guys, thanks for your replies. After all the G1 was an china clone of the G1, it didn't had the sliding screen and, fatal to me, no wifi. I ended up buying an HTC Magic for €50.
Hi
I bought a Milestone second hand from eBay mid way last year hoping to get froyo in September. I've now grown too impatient waiting for MotoLOLa and am going to dip my foot in the custom rom ocean.
Problem is I'm not sure which version of the Milestone I have (as in country of origin). I tried emailing the eBay seller but have had no reply.
I'm going to attempt following this thread but I'm not sure which recovery file to use. How can I tell what's the country my phone originally came from so i can get the right file?
Thanks in advance.
I which to know also why motor made these variants?
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As the title says I have an xt861 I wanted to modify the radio with the xt883 radio for use on at&t. I was able to do this successfully twice with mine and my girlfriends droid 3s however they are showing some signs of age and I was able to pick this up pretty cheap in brand new condition as a replacement. My question is should I use the debrick method found in that thread to put the droid 3 rom on it before beginning the process or would it work with the xt861 rom that is on the phone now? If it didn't would I be able to use the one step debrick on the phone to restore it to a factory droid 3 state at least and then start again from there? Unless someone tells me its a bad idea I was gonna try this anyways but I thought I would ask in case someone had any experience trying it with this phone. Another question I've wondered is why can't we install the radio from the xt860 and just use it that way? Is there a difference in the hardware of these two phones?
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As the title says I have an xt861 I wanted to modify the radio with the xt883 radio for use on at&t. I was able to do this successfully twice with mine and my girlfriends droid 3s however they are showing some signs of age and I was able to pick this up pretty cheap in brand new condition as a replacement. My question is should I use the debrick method found in that thread to put the droid 3 rom on it before beginning the process or would it work with the xt861 rom that is on the phone now? If it didn't would I be able to use the one step debrick on the phone to restore it to a factory droid 3 state at least and then start again from there? Unless someone tells me its a bad idea I was gonna try this anyways but I thought I would ask in case someone had any experience trying it with this phone. Another question I've wondered is why can't we install the radio from the xt860 and just use it that way? Is there a difference in the hardware of these two phones?
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You might do some searching around but the 861 is the same phone as the 862 I think.
I wanted to come back and confirm that the xt883 radio swap found in developers section on this forum for the xt862 does indeed work on the xt861. If I could thank everyone on this forum twice for this I would as I've been using an xt862 with this tweek for the last year but knowing it works with the xt861 as well opens up the market for replacement phones as I live in an alltel area that is switching to at&t soon and should lead to a flood of the market on used xt861's. I believe a carrier in virginia called blue ridge wireless also carries this phone I hope this will help someone else looking for a deal on a used phone. I did not have to put the droid 3 firmware on it before doing it so it is confirmed working with the 861 firmware and which seems like a much more stripped down version than the verizon firmware. Didn't really see any bloatware on the phone other than blur lol. I did have to use motofail to root the phone as petes one click root didn't work but everything else worked just as described in the guide. Have only used it for a couple hours and haven't run into any issues yet but if I do I will certainly come back and report so everyone will have all the info to decide if they want to go this route or not. Once again, thanks to all the developers on here who take the time to write up these step by step guides and one click tools to help out those of us who are good at following instructions but don't have the brains or time to work this out for ourselves. Now that I have an extra slightly worn out d3 I wont be using I'm going to do some reading on some of the custom roms some have developed and see what I might like or not about those and which ones will work with the xt883 radio. These phones are still very capable for what I need them to do but I'd really like to see just what the phone is capable of when tweeked by the great minds on here. If there's anyone in the hickory/asheville area of nc that needs a d3 to experiment with let me know and I would be willing to loan out my extra one to maybe look over your shoulder and learn a little.
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every1nosme said:
I wanted to come back and confirm that the xt883 radio swap found in developers section on this forum for the xt862 does indeed work on the xt861. If I could thank everyone on this forum twice for this I would as I've been using an xt862 with this tweek for the last year but knowing it works with the xt861 as well opens up the market for replacement phones as I live in an alltel area that is switching to at&t soon and should lead to a flood of the market on used xt861's. I believe a carrier in virginia called blue ridge wireless also carries this phone I hope this will help someone else looking for a deal on a used phone. I did not have to put the droid 3 firmware on it before doing it so it is confirmed working with the 861 firmware and which seems like a much more stripped down version than the verizon firmware. Didn't really see any bloatware on the phone other than blur lol. I did have to use motofail to root the phone as petes one click root didn't work but everything else worked just as described in the guide. Have only used it for a couple hours and haven't run into any issues yet but if I do I will certainly come back and report so everyone will have all the info to decide if they want to go this route or not. Once again, thanks to all the developers on here who take the time to write up these step by step guides and one click tools to help out those of us who are good at following instructions but don't have the brains or time to work this out for ourselves. Now that I have an extra slightly worn out d3 I wont be using I'm going to do some reading on some of the custom roms some have developed and see what I might like or not about those and which ones will work with the xt883 radio. These phones are still very capable for what I need them to do but I'd really like to see just what the phone is capable of when tweeked by the great minds on here. If there's anyone in the hickory/asheville area of nc that needs a d3 to experiment with let me know and I would be willing to loan out my extra one to maybe look over your shoulder and learn a little.
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Hi, I went ahead and assumed I'd have to flash the xt883 radio and build.prop. Mine isn't working as is. I'm curious if you had to also replace and tweak the build.prop with your xt861? Mine is the Ntelos version which I believe is the same as Alltel. Also did you have to unlock your phone? Some have said they have had to others have said they haven't. Just trying to get all my facts straight with this minority version of the milestone 3. -Thanks.