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Sexy Nexie or Sexy Desie?

K you kind folks.... if you had the opportunity to trade you Nexus One for HTC Desire?
would you? Or would you not do it? Please add reason.
I know they're practically the same phone but I'm caught in a dilemma here.

I'd stick with the Nexus.
With the Desire, I'd just install a non-Sense ROM anyway

Hmm..how about there's a higher chance the Nexus one will receive updates before the Desire (Gingerbread?) See how early it had froyo
Where I am from, the telco's are bundling line plans/contracts with Desires, making it affordable and common place. But there is nobody selling Nexus ones here. Now that Google has taken it off its store, this phone has just became even more rare. Love the unique feel about that

These 4 young ladies suggest you hang on to your Nexus

Nexus One + ROM with Desire theme = sexy UI, sexier phone, minus SenseUI crap.

galaxys said:
These 4 young ladies suggest you hang on to your Nexus
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That's all you had to say....

Ryjabo said:
Nexus One + ROM with Desire theme = sexy UI, sexier phone, minus SenseUI crap.
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Any suggestion on which one is the best one out right now?

And for all of you who responded... thanks. Now just to add a twist to it...
What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.

cue_32 said:
What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.
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No. Why would you?
Why do you have two?

I was in the same boat as you last week. I went with the Nexus. The support for it is amazing and I prefer vanilla over Sense (I wasn't before I bought the nexus). I already has Froyo before any other Android device....Correction, WAAAAAAY before any other Android.... The phone is amazing and I love every aspect of it. Hopefully, I will have influenced your decision

cue_32 said:
And for all of you who responded... thanks. Now just to add a twist to it...
What if you had 2 Nexus Ones... would you still trade one of them? I'm really leaning towards no right now since the announcement that there aren't any more Nexus Ones.
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If I had two, sure, I'd probably trade just to diversify. But I wouldn't want to replace my primary at this point.

I agree with above. I wouldn't want two of the same devices.... Even though I do love my Nexus . What's the point of having two of the same device when you can have two different ones, with different designs and slightly different features.

Believe it or not the 2 that I have in my possession are Nexus # 4, and #5. I sold my 1st 3 and after the 3rd one, I couldn't last a day without the Nex. So I bought 2 and 1 as backup. (Wife using it in the meantime until she gets her iPhone 4...) I told her it's grounds for divorce for her to own an iPhone 4 =)
The diversity thing makes sense and was the main reason for a trade, but since the Google Announcement, it made it harder to let it go even if I had 1 already. That and that they are practically the same phone too.
Thanks for everyone's input... I'm not gonna do the Desire trade anymore, I'm working on trading it for a Galaxy S if anything. For Diversity sake, I just hope I don't lose my Nexus One somehow.

i'd keep the nexus because the desire has more of a plastic back battery cover and isnt quite as good build quality as the nexus. but the desire is still awesome, i'd just give the edge to nexus.

cue_32 said:
K you kind folks.... if you had the opportunity to trade you Nexus One for HTC Desire?
would you? Or would you not do it? Please add reason.
I know they're practically the same phone but I'm caught in a dilemma here.
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Looking at the name of your post, are you sure it isnt more your sexuality that your not sure about?

huetson2 said:
Looking at the name of your post, are you sure it isnt more your sexuality that your not sure about?
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I don't know... No one else saw it that way. I think you're just hoping to find a guy to be 'boyfriends' with. Wrong tree homo.. I mean, homie

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I don't know... No one else saw it that way. I think you're just hoping to find a guy to be 'boyfriends' with. Wrong tree homo.. I mean, homie
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sexy nexie/desie? yep mate your a proper ******. unless your 12 that is

I'd keep the Nexus, for its triband 3G radio. I'm in Europe and I want to be able to cross the Atlantic and have working 3G and just pop a SIM card in. That's one of the reasons why I had a N900 before, I like to know I have the possibility to make it work both in the US and in Europe. The T-Mobile version, that is.

Keep both Nexi. You wont really be getting diversity in my opinion. You will be getting a few more hard buttons and an optical pad instead of a trackball, and you will lose out on the N1 support. Be strong and hold out till an new phone is released that you don't think twice about switching to. It is not a bad decision to go with the trade, does the Desire sell as easily as the N1?

Who is staying and who is leaving?

So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!

SirHoover2010 said:
So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me

ATGAdmin said:
Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.

SirHoover2010 said:
Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone

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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.

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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c

ATGAdmin said:
I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol

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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Let's hope that no one starts sticking their thumbs in those holes lol

LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.

souljaboy said:
LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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From reviews, it suppose to be pretty high quality. Also is suppose to feel nice in the hand. With that said, still a good point and something to look for.

LG's build quailty is under-rated. Same as with any hobby or whatever you call this phone obsession. People look at price and give it a bad name. I think LG started turning the corner with the Nitro. It was a solid phone. Nothing compares to Moto though with build quality. But I think LG beats Samsung and HTC.

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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device?!?
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
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ATGAdmin said:
Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.

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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.

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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
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ATGAdmin said:
Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
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I wish I could send my Atrix HD to google and get a good percentage off on this phone lol. I am over not being able to flash away. That is a big reason I got an android, I wanted to learn to develop roms. Unfortunately I feel that is much harder on a locked down device lol

Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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jgvillan74 said:
Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Haha I agree, I will be giving it a few more months! I have decided to wait lol

I'll definitely be sticking with the Atrix HD. I was a flashaholic on my Atrix 4G so I was disappointed that this phone has a locked down bootloader. On the other hand, I've had absolutely no complaints about this phone especially where battery life is concerned with the EB40. Having all the power that this phone has to offer with excellent battery life is just what I needed. This phone has completely replaced my computers altogether. As for the bootloader, Hashcode has already done tremendous work on getting safestrap working for our devices. Why worry about a locked bootloader when we can get around it with safestrap? Isn't the point of an unlocked bootloader to get a custom recovery for flashing and isn't that what safestrap hopes to do without the need for unlocking the bootloader? I won't be giving this phone up anytime soon and I look forward to getting a Paranoid Android build going for it.
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N4 -> HTC One?

Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.

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If you don't want to unlock and root, go for it.
That's the reason why I left the one x
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Let me tell you... There were official jb Roms when I was on ICS on my one x. I couldn't jump onto it cause only certain cids were able to hop onto it. This god damn locked boot loader is even more of an fun blocker. Oh and the fact that if you decide to relock your device it will say "re-lock" in boot loader. Oh and the fact that you have to enter fastboot flash boot boot.IMG... Want me to go on? I didn't wanna but they update so slowlyyyyy.
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Well, there are developer phones being released with unlocked SIMs and Bootloaders out of the box. Thats obviously the version I would consider.

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Well, there are developer phones being released with unlocked SIMs and Bootloaders out of the box. Thats obviously the version I would consider.
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I'm assuming they cost a lot more than buying one under contract? I wouldn't pay any more than what this n4 cost me. $599+ for a no contract phone, what a joke.
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I'm assuming they cost a lot more than buying one under contract? I wouldn't pay any more than what this n4 cost me. $599+ for a no contract phone, what a joke.
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I have no speculation as to the cost of it. I have typically bought my phones off contract anyway so paying $600 is normal for me. The fact that the N4 was so inexpensive was just a treat. I never really expected to pay that little for a phone off contract again.
Suppose with the rumors of the N5 swirling around maybe I should just wait it out until November again. Damn, I just get bored too quickly.

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Well, there are developer phones being released with unlocked SIMs and Bootloaders out of the box. Thats obviously the version I would consider.
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Forgot about that.. Meh..
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shadehh said:
Forgot about that.. Meh..
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Well, that settles it for me.

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Yea if you get bored fast.. Expect a new HTC flagship 6 months from the One.. Then you'll be upset.
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Re: N4 -> HTC One?
Not "upgrading" not worth it to shell out $600+ for a small bump in specs. I wouldn't even consider the non dev version
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Yea if you get bored fast.. Expect a new HTC flagship 6 months from the One.. Then you'll be upset.
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From what Ive been reading, this will be their only flagship phone this year. That being said, 6 months from now I'd be looking at the N5 anyway, so just in time. I average about 6 months between phones anyway.

HTC is getting killed by Samsung and Apple, i`am afraid they will not survive on the log run. Now they have serious delays in producing the casings and the camera components and a limited marketing budget. Samsung will go full steam ahead and are allready producing at 110% and marketing will kick in globaly when the actual delivery`s take place. RIP HTC.

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From what Ive been reading, this will be their only flagship phone this year. That being said, 6 months from now I'd be looking at the N5 anyway, so just in time. I average about 6 months between phones anyway.
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I personally wouldn't.. But I would keep my nexus 4 until the new nexus. I refuse to go back to htc with their stupid locks
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From my experience the HTC phones have terrible quality control issues. I've had to replace my Evo 3D the times before I had to settle with a decent one which had a long piece of lint behind the glass of the camera.
Looks like the One X was also plagued with issues as well. There's no telling what issues will be present since they're going with a whole different tech this time with their aluminum design.
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If you've got the cash to shell out, I don't see why not.
The HTC One is a damn nice phone and I see no downsides to it. I say get it and let us know how you like it!

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Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.
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But if you're going to pay all that money to throw AOSP On it what's the point
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BrianDigital said:
But if you're going to pay all that money to throw AOSP On it what's the point
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I love the phone design.

I have a Nexus 4, and an HTC One dummy phone.
They both feel very well crafted, both in their own way. One knock I have against HTC is their software. I've never really liked sense. The Blink Feed thing looks gimmicky. But, the One does have a better camera, and probably better battery life.
If you need a decent camera and you don't mind delayed updates, go with the One. I might purchase a One, but more than likely I'll stick with my Nexus 4 until the Nexus 5 is released.

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That's what they said when I bought my one x.. Only to find about about the one x+, droid DNA, and butterfly in between and now one
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HyperM3 said:
Anyone consider going over to the HTC One? I think that phone is gorgeous. It used to be that you wanted the Nexus device because you could get the latest Android OS the fastest but if you use a ROM it doesnt matter anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has considered the leap.
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Even with the "ROMS" you're still not getting what you get with an official Google build. There are parts of it that just have to be hacked around with until they mostly work with whatever aosp they're likely based off of(think all of the proprietary kernel BLOBs...) while Google probably either has access to the latest binaries or even source(never really looked yet as the n4 is my first actual "Google"(kinda) device...).
i.e. a nexus build SHOULD just work, while your ROM may or may not just work or might blow up at just the wrong moment(unlikely mostly, but still wouldn't really surprise me).
As to hopping to a new phone?! R u mad?! I just got the n4, and will stay with it until the next nexus is released probably, given that I'm in for cases, holsters, Qi charger, etc. and the One or even S4 just aren't "better" enough to be tempting at all, although I do sorely miss a uSD slot. (WTF?! HTH can a uSD be complicated/confusing when you have to damned well install a uSIM?! Also kinda missing a replaceable batt, esp with GPS apps which just SUCK batt like nobodies business...(I blame the enlightened for that...))

htc and updates

really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?

finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!

... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.

The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.

swaze said:
The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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gk1984 said:
Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.

I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/

raptoro07 said:
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?

gk1984 said:
Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.

H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.

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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).

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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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[Q] Honestly, is the Vivid a "good" phone?

So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I have also been a big HTC fan for a long time, currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly a slightly improved CDMA/LTE version of the Vivid. I can get a new, sealed in the box, unlocked HTC Vivid for about $200 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing HTC has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Vivid? Is it solid and relatively problem free? easy to unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM, return to stock, etc. Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket which I can get new for about $210, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?

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So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I have also been a big HTC fan for a long time, currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly a slightly improved CDMA/LTE version of the Vivid. I can get a new, sealed in the box, unlocked HTC Vivid for about $200 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing HTC has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Vivid? Is it solid and relatively problem free? easy to unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM, return to stock, etc. Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket which I can get new for about $210, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?
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Go with the GS2 SkyRocket

TheROMGuy said:
Go with the GS2 SkyRocket
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Yeah, after a bunch of research and poking around the forums, that's what I did... Should have it by the end of the week.

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Yeah, after a bunch of research and poking around the forums, that's what I did... Should have it by the end of the week.
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Its not that its a bad phone because its not its actually really good but its just not the easiest to work with.

I would have gone with the nexus 4 as I am sick of htc's BS but to each his own.

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Its not that its a bad phone because its not its actually really good but its just not the easiest to work with.
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Yeah, I am very familiar with the uniqueness of HTC products... I've owned more than one (Inc2, Aria, Rezound) and once you figure it out they are all really similar. I chose the SGS2 Skyrocket not because the Vivid was bad, but for me the SGS2 was just a better choice this time, same money, slight faster, better battery life, lighter, thinner, and more developer support. I don't think I would have been unhappy with the Vivid, just think I will be happier with the Sammy.
Thanks for responding.
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acejavelin said:
So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I have also been a big HTC fan for a long time, currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly a slightly improved CDMA/LTE version of the Vivid. I can get a new, sealed in the box, unlocked HTC Vivid for about $200 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing HTC has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Vivid? Is it solid and relatively problem free? easy to unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM, return to stock, etc. Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket which I can get new for about $210, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?
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TBH its a ok phone I like mine but its a pain to work with I just this past week got it able to do a custom rom(im new to flashing). so all in all i would say get something else.

swordmastr54 said:
TBH its a ok phone I like mine but its a pain to work with I just this past week got it able to do a custom rom(im new to flashing). so all in all i would say get something else.
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Little late there yo xP