So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Let's hope that no one starts sticking their thumbs in those holes lol
LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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From reviews, it suppose to be pretty high quality. Also is suppose to feel nice in the hand. With that said, still a good point and something to look for.
LG's build quailty is under-rated. Same as with any hobby or whatever you call this phone obsession. People look at price and give it a bad name. I think LG started turning the corner with the Nitro. It was a solid phone. Nothing compares to Moto though with build quality. But I think LG beats Samsung and HTC.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device?!?
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I wish I could send my Atrix HD to google and get a good percentage off on this phone lol. I am over not being able to flash away. That is a big reason I got an android, I wanted to learn to develop roms. Unfortunately I feel that is much harder on a locked down device lol
Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Haha I agree, I will be giving it a few more months! I have decided to wait lol
I'll definitely be sticking with the Atrix HD. I was a flashaholic on my Atrix 4G so I was disappointed that this phone has a locked down bootloader. On the other hand, I've had absolutely no complaints about this phone especially where battery life is concerned with the EB40. Having all the power that this phone has to offer with excellent battery life is just what I needed. This phone has completely replaced my computers altogether. As for the bootloader, Hashcode has already done tremendous work on getting safestrap working for our devices. Why worry about a locked bootloader when we can get around it with safestrap? Isn't the point of an unlocked bootloader to get a custom recovery for flashing and isn't that what safestrap hopes to do without the need for unlocking the bootloader? I won't be giving this phone up anytime soon and I look forward to getting a Paranoid Android build going for it.
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I was very interested in selling my nexus and before I did I wanted go get my fellow nexus one user's opinion. Why should I keep this phone? I was looking into the evo by sprint. The screen size amazes me. If I was to sell my nexus one how much would I be able to sell it for? What are some good reasons to keeping my nexus one? I love this phone but I have it stuck in my head that there is something better out there. Please convince me not to sell it.
wait for desire HD
If you want to switch carriers that's one thing. But on GSM carriers there really is no worthy upgrade till the G2, but even then... A stock 4" phone is needed, the Galaxy S is is more of a side-grade IMO.
The dev level upgrades are one thing that would make me keep this phone for at least mid way through the next year. I like the fact that Google will upgrade this phones' software for a while at least and we don't have to wait for hacked roms or carrier OTA's.
Hold onto it until the Dell Thunder! I am.
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wait for desire HD
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What carrier will have it? Please tell me T-Mobile
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Hold onto it until the Dell Thunder! I am.
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Looks nice. But I think ill stick with HTC. No hard feelings
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If you want to switch carriers that's one thing. But on GSM carriers there really is no worthy upgrade till the G2, but even then... A stock 4" phone is needed, the Galaxy S is is more of a side-grade IMO.
The dev level upgrades are one thing that would make me keep this phone for at least mid way through the next year. I like the fact that Google will upgrade this phones' software for a while at least and we don't have to wait for hacked roms or carrier OTA's.
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Did you see pictures of the G2? I'm not all that crazy about it.
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What carrier will have it? Please tell me T-Mobile
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i have no idea what carrier it will have sorry
www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/htc-schedules-september-15-event-leaves-us-guessing-as-to-what/
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i have no idea what carrier it will have sorry
www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/htc-schedules-september-15-event-leaves-us-guessing-as-to-what/
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Looks the same as the evo.
Keeping my nexus, its a collector phone for sure.
RogerPodacter said:
Keeping my nexus, its a collector phone for sure.
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This...won't be easy getting the n1 later on
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This...won't be easy getting the n1 later on
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Especially if you have the ATT version. You know ATT nexus is selling for 1500 bucks on ebay right now for sealed brand new ATT nexus one. Wish I bought a few when I had the chance.
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Especially if you have the ATT version. You know ATT nexus is selling for 1500 bucks on ebay right now for sealed brand new ATT nexus one. Wish I bought a few when I had the chance.
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$1500??!? No way. I just checked, its $460-530.
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$1500??!? No way. I just checked, its $460-530.
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On Ebay Canada, used Nexus ones (ATT) are going for $500-1100,
Looking to sell mine for $450, is that a good price?
Definately keeping mine forever. It's more than just a phone.
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There´s n better phone out there (for me )...just bigger screen phones, probably better screen, better multitouch...but that´s all just too little to convince me!
After my Nexus One, it has to be a step forward, like having 1.5 or 2 Ghz
A few points I'd like to share with you.
First, the Nexus One being what it is is reason enough not to get rid of it. It is a classic, it is the only HTC device available with vanilla Android and high end hardware, and everything else has some flavor of garbage depending on the manufacturer. It really is the modern day Google phone, their baby, and the device that gets all the updates before everything else.
I typically sell my old phones to pay for most of the cost of my new ones, but with the Nexus One, I'm pretty sure I'm going to use it until it dies and still keep it to remember how great it was after that.
As for switching to Sprint for the Evo, I would also wait until something truly worthy of replacing your Nexus One comes along (and on a better network). The added features of the Evo aren't worth the poor battery life and slower general operation when using it.
For my next upgrade, I'm going to wait for something with a higher-than-WVGA resolution screen, xenon flash, and something that can truly live up to the Nexus One's legacy.
^ Agree...Won't be selling my classic N1 for some time! And will never go to Sprint
if i buy a phone which is from att or tmobile will i be able to use it i m dubai (u.a.e)
Ok...First, I love this phone, I love this community and everyone in it.
I got the opportunity to move to the Galaxy Nexus and I jumped. I love the phone..Its missing some of the hard core that the Revolution has but its a trade off.
That being said, I now have a Revolution, two oem batteries, a Extended battery, kickstand case and dock that I no longer need. Anyone interested or know of anyone who might be?
Throw me a pm.
I will keep around this forum because, honestly, its much cleaner and more fun to read that some of the others around!
Thanks to everyone who helped this noob become less of a noob.
I love this forum. There is all kinks of helpful info. on revo.
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Ok...First, I love this phone, I love this community and everyone in it.
I got the opportunity to move to the Galaxy Nexus and I jumped. I love the phone..Its missing some of the hard core that the Revolution has but its a trade off.
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As a REVO user who really wants a Nexus I have two questions if you don't mind.
1. What opportunity did you come across to get the galaxy Nexus? I only ask because I heard of an upgrade option through Verizon where the phone was free, but I am not eligible for an upgrade yet, so I was wondering if you knew of a different offer.
2. What do you mean by it's missing the hard core that the REVO has? I'm curious to hear what the REVO offers that the Nexus doesn't?
The GingerVolt2.0 rom is a good rom. I'm running it now with no issues
ufkal said:
Ok...First, I love this phone, I love this community and everyone in it.
I got the opportunity to move to the Galaxy Nexus and I jumped. I love the phone..Its missing some of the hard core that the Revolution has but its a trade off.
That being said, I now have a Revolution, two oem batteries, a Extended battery, kickstand case and dock that I no longer need. Anyone interested or know of anyone who might be?
Throw me a pm.
I will keep around this forum because, honestly, its much cleaner and more fun to read that some of the others around!
Thanks to everyone who helped this noob become less of a noob.
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What do you want for all your goods? I can swing by and pick it all up. I am heading to North County today to Christian. And of course live in the area so if today don't work for you.
not to throw a wrench in any deal, but you might consider offering to lend it to a developer in the revolution android developer's forum to see if they can expedite building a cm9 build.
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not to throw a wrench in any deal, but you might consider offering to lend it to a developer in the revolution android developer's forum to see if they can expedite building a cm9 build.
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Shutup! I will have 2 phones 3 batteries and the other **** he has that I really might want.
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markapowell said:
Shutup! I will have 2 phones 3 batteries and the other **** he has that I really might want.
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Sent you a PM
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As a REVO user who really wants a Nexus I have two questions if you don't mind.
1. What opportunity did you come across to get the galaxy Nexus? I only ask because I heard of an upgrade option through Verizon where the phone was free, but I am not eligible for an upgrade yet, so I was wondering if you knew of a different offer.
2. What do you mean by it's missing the hard core that the REVO has? I'm curious to hear what the REVO offers that the Nexus doesn't?
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1. The opportunity was me wanting it and having an upgrade available. The timing was right, no special deals or anything (mainly my wife was in a decent mood and let me)
2. The Revo just seems hard core when you hold it in your hands. Its sings This is MY PHONE!!!, the Nexus is thin and slick...Which is cool and groovy. I enjoy the Nexus a lot. I wasn't sure at first that I would like it. ICS is a tad weird and takes some getting used to. Like all phone purchasing decisions, its a personal decision. Grab the NEXUS, Hold the Nexus...You decide....
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It is a myth. Actually it was a scam. Verizon says there is no such promotion. They are however sending out emails offering 100 dollars off any LTE phone via their website. I got that email yesterday as they try to convince me to upgrade one of my other 2 phone lines.
It was a one day only thing it appears because the email is linked to a web page the offer in the email has changed to a bogo deal for the crappy stratus
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1. The opportunity was me wanting it and having an upgrade available. The timing was right, no special deals or anything (mainly my wife was in a decent mood and let me)
2. The Revo just seems hard core when you hold it in your hands. Its sings This is MY PHONE!!!, the Nexus is thin and slick...Which is cool and groovy. I enjoy the Nexus a lot. I wasn't sure at first that I would like it. ICS is a tad weird and takes some getting used to. Like all phone purchasing decisions, its a personal decision. Grab the NEXUS, Hold the Nexus...You decide....
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Cool, thanks for the insight.
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It is a myth. Actually it was a scam. Verizon says there is no such promotion. They are however sending out emails offering 100 dollars off any LTE phone via their website. I got that email yesterday as they try to convince me to upgrade one of my other 2 phone lines.
It was a one day only thing it appears because the email is linked to a web page the offer in the email has changed to a bogo deal for the crappy stratus
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Figures.
So as it turns out, Motorola will also be locking down the bootloader for the upcoming Atrix HD....big surprise, eh?
However, something in this article is a bit noteworthy:
"...our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-a-way-to-unlock-to-those-who-wish-to-do-so/
There's one guy around here that has a sig that says "Motorola lied I'm still locked" or something similar... he's got the right idea about it, and words mean nothing and neither do their broken promises so, until we see and can actually make use of a real honest to goodness unlocked bootloader, Motorola can stick their words someplace, you get to choose where.
4 words: Too little too late!
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
Lies all lies...
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Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
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And now they're trying to relock It with the new updates
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Those are cheap lies from motorola. They played that scenerio very well with the XT910. Don't ever buy a phone motorola with locked bootloader with the hope of it could be unlocked in the future.
+1. I for one wont ever buy a Moto phone. That's the only form of complaint that they will eventually listen to.
+1
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+1. I for one wont ever buy a Moto phone. That's the only form of complaint that they will eventually listen to.
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+1. Totally Agreed.
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Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
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The 4G wasn't officially unlocked when the Atrix 2 was released. We got lucky on that one...hence the cheesecake checking for the Atrix 2 in hopes that lightning strikes twice.
This is a tough one:
I REALLY wanna upgrade my phone, but I'm not sure if I want to wait to be able to do what I can now..
Its bull we heard it all with the defy and the atrix and then the razr
Don't forget when they said that about the razr they then released the dev version so you had to buy another phone.
I'm done with moto, their excellent hardware cant make up for their bad software hence why I brought a Samsung GS3 the only thing I can hope for this device is that they stick to their word(not gonna happen) or that if your lucky devs like quarx and eppy from the defy get helping here.
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I have never seen Moto as a anything more than the gimmick device provider for Verizon so to me this is business as usual....
Moto dropped the ball long ago....quality? In what? Superior Screens? To who? HTC has done some dumb crap too but have way out built Moto in the quality field....Samsung has leveled the entire industry with their technology. Moto does nothing except pack into their devices COMPARABLE hardware to other manufacturers....innovate nowhere....they amaze no one....from form to the most terrible UI....Atrix line? Fail.....Razr....I will give them battery on the Max but lose points for a sub par OMAP....sure its just my opinion but I can't see people being upset anymore over this BS entity.......Moto and Apple need to attend some courses on innovation because they are both all out of it.
Google should employ some good XDA devs to turn that dying rat platform into something good again....Moto has lost the will to out do.
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I have never seen Moto as a anything more than the gimmick device provider for Verizon so to me this is business as usual....
Moto dropped the ball long ago....quality? In what? Superior Screens? To who? HTC has done some dumb crap too but have way out built Moto in the quality field....Samsung has leveled the entire industry with their technology. Moto does nothing except pack into their devices COMPARABLE hardware to other manufacturers....innovate nowhere....they amaze no one....from form to the most terrible UI....Atrix line? Fail.....Razr....I will give them battery on the Max but lose points for a sub par OMAP....sure its just my opinion but I can't see people being upset anymore over this BS entity.......Moto and Apple need to attend some courses on innovation because they are both all out of it.
Google should employ some good XDA devs to turn that dying rat platform into something good again....Moto has lost the will to out do.
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I don't feel like arguing with a troll but you're wrong plain and simple. Don't like them, don't buy them.
Back on topic, don't ever buy a device expecting future functionality, you'll always end up disappointed.
Son et Lumiere said:
I don't feel like arguing with a troll but you're wrong plain and simple. Don't like them, don't buy them.
Back on topic, don't ever buy a device expecting future functionality, you'll always end up disappointed.
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I am an adult and know that only name calling causes arguments.....so you should not call people trolls who actually are device fanatics and know what they are talking about.
Also an opinion can't be wrong....you should know this if you are old enough to use a keyboard.
Also replying to an opinion with no rebuttal other than your wrong and not even singling out one superior feature, makes your comment a complete fail.....
Last, a reply to the stupidest thing I have EVER read ....."don't buy a device expecting future functionality"....????????....are you serious?....granted five years down the road I would expect nothing.....but buying devices that can hold its own for a few years is called being a smart consumer
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I am an adult and know that only name calling causes arguments.....so you should not call people trolls who actually are device fanatics and know what they are talking about.
Also an opinion can't be wrong....you should know this if you are old enough to use a keyboard.
Also replying to an opinion with no rebuttal other than your wrong and not even singling out one superior feature, makes your comment a complete fail.....
Last, a reply to the stupidest thing I have EVER read ....."don't buy a device expecting future functionality"....????????....are you serious?....granted five years down the road I would expect nothing.....but buying devices that can hold its own for a few years is called being a smart consumer
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You don't act like an adult.....at all.
adelvillar said:
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+1 for not buying a phone because it has a locked bootloader.
-1 for thinking motorola (or any major OEM) cares about or listens to people like us. For every person who will not buy an atrix hd because of the bootloader, there are twenty people who will be somewhat annoyed but still buy one, and 1,000 people who will say "what's a locked bootloader?"
Moto knew this would create backlash but they did it anyway. The GS3 is unlocked on at&t, so I don't necessarily believe it was at&t's fault. Moto's message is loud and clear: "Android hobbyists and developers: We DO NOT care about you."
That said, I DO think we can get motorola to change, but missing sales from the open bootloader crowd simply isn't enough. Bad publicity on social networks, petitions, and hopefully an article about the bad publicity and petition on an android news site. How do we get the numbers? Get people who hate locked bootloaders, at&t, and/or motorola to sign. Then get some casual users involved, by describing the bootloader in overly simplified terms. Invoke carrier IQ and privacy, invoke freedom, etc.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of buzz around the atrix HD, so this may be easier said than done, but it would be nice because the atrix HD seems like it has the potential to be a truly great phone, I would suggest it over the Nexus in a heartbeat if it was totally unlocked and easy to install stock AOSP like ROM.
Ya you are right
+1 for not buying a locked bootloader phone.
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I once bought a Motorola Android (Atrix 4g), they make great build quality devices, and I'd buy a product of theirs again if they actually decided to ship their devices unlocked...they did this with the Atrix 4g people clamored for it to be unlocked...they said they would provide a solution they never did officially, it was only by luck that a leaked HK firmware for the phone pointed Devs in the direction on how to unlock the BL, fast forward some months and they have been releasing updates that relock the BL with no way to SBF back..Take a look on the verizon side, moto makes flagship phone for them, what did they do ship a Droid Razr with locked BL, their solution release a Dev device with unlocked BL and no warranty...So if we look at their track record on how to deal with BLs I dont put much faith in them, if anything their solution will be to release another Atrix HD Dev edition...too bad too cuz for 99 bux the Atrix HD seems like a solid deal...but I for one will not support them for shipping with a locked BL.
Sorry to be confusing locked bootlocker and locked phone. Can the phone be used for travelling to other countries? That is, using prepaid Simcard to countries that I will be travelling to.
So I work at Sprint and we finally had a Motorola Representative come down and speak to use (we sell the Photon Q which is like the droid 4 with a bigger screen). I told him about my experiences with the Droid 3 and what we were doing here. I told him about XDA's shared hatred towards Sanjay and he said he understood. He basically admitted that the Droid 3 should have never happened and that the Droid 4 was already practically made when the Droid 3 was being sold, basically because they already dumped money in to the droid 3 so they had to unload it on the consumer (Sanjay's fault). Some of the positive things he mentioned was that with the new leadership, updates are going to happen much more often and that flagship phones won't have 59 variations. Motorola will also start keeping it's promise to keep phone's up to date for 18 months as well.
I asked him about the bootloader blog debacle and he basically said that Verizon came in and put their foot down, which made them not follow through on what they said was going to happen. Actually in the end he said 90% of things are Verizon's fault (I wouldn't doubt it). They do have a huge advertising campaign that is practically paid for by Verizon, Verizon uses that to their advantage and blackmails them to do their bidding. He also mentioned that alot of his fellow employees are hoping that Google can strong arm Verizon into sitting the %#@& down and getting over themselves, allowing them to do a signed bootloader unlocking. He says that it should allow you to register your phone's ESN to MotoDev and it would then send a message back to the Verizon that the warranty is void but it would allow people to unlock the bootloader. Hardware warranty will still be covered by Moto, just not through Verizon and Asurion (unless you pay a deposit) There are a lot of angry sales people who do not like to sell Motorola phones due to their bloatware and locked boot-loader practices and Motorola knows that it isn't good for sales. He says the most common notes he sends back to HQ usually contain something about the bootloader, less motoblur, and death to Sanjay.
If you have any questions I can try to get in contact with him and see what else he has to say or if I asked him a question I forgot to put it in this post I can answer it. I grilled him for an hour.
Holy crap thanks. I hope they update us.
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Wow. So does this mean there is still hope yet?
Nope. It means that this phone is forgotten but future devices starting next quarter will be supported much better. Sorry.
This seems to confirm what we've believed all along - that the D3 was awkwardly released, from a point of view of timing; that Verizon had the contractual ability to prevent Moto from unlocking bootloaders on these phones.
"Death to Sanjay" seems silly at this point - the guy's been gone for more than 6 months.
Well, poo. Guess I better be saving money for an S3. Or maybe the S4.
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This seems to confirm what we've believed all along - that the D3 was awkwardly released, from a point of view of timing; that Verizon had the contractual ability to prevent Moto from unlocking bootloaders on these phones.
"Death to Sanjay" seems silly at this point - the guy's been gone for more than 6 months.
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Well Death to Sanjay was the most common note this year, and I still hold him accountable for our droid 3's.
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Well, poo. Guess I better be saving money for an S3. Or maybe the S4.
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Wait for the S4. The S4 will be out sometime in April and will have a 1080p screen, rumored to have no bezel (edge to edge display), quadcore and the unbreakable flex display, and a 13mp camera. Samsung is seriously going after the iphone with this one. This is the one I am saving for but I will end up going to Sprint due to Verizon's data plans.
Yeah, I was thinking that as well. But I'd be buying full retail.
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Yeah, I was thinking that as well. But I'd be buying full retail.
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Ugh I know how that is. It's why I got a job with Sprint. Likely you can get the S3 for 200 somewhere after Christmas.
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Ugh I know how that is. It's why I got a job with Sprint. Likely you can get the S3 for 200 somewhere after Christmas.
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That would be awesome.
It sounds like the future at Motorola will be a lot better. We've already seen the fast updates for the Razr HD and M, hopefully Motorola gets the update out to their late 2011 phones as well.
I'm looking at getting the Razr M as my phone when I can upgrade in early 2013 unless something better comes out, since its one of the few phones without a huge screen. Its already got JB and Hash has safestrap working on it, so there will be some dev support. I'll keep my Droid 3 as a spare VZW phone and to mess around with ROMs on.
Been seeking questions and looking for answers and wondering if anyone is even alive on here anymore.
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Been seeking questions and looking for answers and wondering if anyone is even alive on here anymore.
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Yes!
This forum is still active!
Please be polite. [emoji4]
I'm quote polite... Just had a question about the nexus 6 to see if it's was worth buying still?
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I'm quote polite... Just had a question about the nexus 6 to see if it's was worth buying still?
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at the prices that its available for nowadays, its VERY MUCH worth it. as it still butts heads with the best of ths smartphones
and i think that i remember you, either from the g1 or nexus one..
Until another 6inch AMOLED phone comes along, I'm never giving up my n6.
Eh, I love my Nexus 6 for many reasons, but honestly, I got an lg g flex 2 for a really good deal and switched back to a "carrier phone" and man, as far as processors, night and day difference. Now I haven't really run into the overheat thing that plagues the sd810. But day to day things, even just restating my device is snappier. The only thing I will say, not having access to update whenever I want (at least when google gives us factory images) sucks big time. I forgot how bad it is to wait on carriers/manufacturers
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and i think that i remember you, either from the g1 or nexus one..
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I know I remember him. We both had, or have in my case, the Dell Streak. Just to briefly reminisce, more than a few of us loved that device to the point we swore we'd never go back to anything with a smaller screen. Keep in mind that this is 2010-2011, when the average screen was between 3 and 3-1/2 inches. In 2011 5-inch screens weren't common and unlocked devices sold directly by the manufacturer were unheard of. The Streak had both, but poor marketing and flawed expectations on Dell's part helped kill it.
Take a look at the development pages... It's a Nexus! There's still work on the GNexus
tApPeD fROM mY nExUs 6
All. Rom developers waiting for official N firmware to upgrade their Roms . After that all Roms will be active.