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[Q] HD7 Screen

Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".

Honestly I would tweet this one @HTC on twitter and trend #wp7 to put some pressure on them to answer.

The best way to get the most accurate answer would be to tweet @htc the question and trend #wp7 in the same tweet so they actually answer it in this lifetime.

It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.

Wolfman017 said:
It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.
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well thats a bummer

Halabeaster54 said:
Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".
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From what I can see and almost every review and or tech specs I have seen it is a Super LCD screen.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2636&c=htc_hd7_16gb

They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.

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They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.
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http://www.totech.net/htc-hd7-technical-specifications
http://mobile.softpedia.com/phones/HTC/HTC-HD7.shtml
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/t-mobile-htc-hd7-review
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-HD7-Review_id2582
http://www.tbnews.info/677/hd7-top-of-the-range-windows-mobile-7-with-s-lcd/
http://www.techhail.com/mobiles/htc-hd7-vs-htc-7-surround-vs-htc-7-mozart-vs-htc-7-trophy/9369
http://otakugadgets.com/cell-phones/htc-ditches-amoled-good-phones-moves-s-lcd/
These are just some of the links that do state it does have a SLCD. Even if it had just a TFT LCD I still would love the device. Coming from a Vibrant on T-Mobile I noticed that with the SAMOLED displays that the colors are over saturated and not a true representation (that is my opinion though). It also looks like as Super TFT screens are also knows as SLCD screens according to the last article i posted
Merry Christmas
Eric

And none of those articles state any official HTC source >.< Its also worth noting that ordiniary LCD's also don't give accruate colour reproduction, instead giving dull, undersaturated, cold feeling colours. Depends whether you prefer vibrancy or not - most people prefer more vibrancy

OS change
hi guys any of you have shifted from a galaxyS to an hd7? Was it worth it.. as considering there are few messenger apps in the market? im thinkin of shifting from "fragmented android" to WP7. Just the thing that worries me is i could just find one messenger app out there.. namely FIM. I really love the Metro UI
Moreover GSMarena seems to be complaining about the sensitivity of the screen. Is it true that its not sensitive..also the blurry text issue.. If someone could please shed some light on this.. Thanks

I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.

ounkeo said:
I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.
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Thanks for the tip. I didnt get this part though."the display sets i used all had poor screens" yu mean had replaced your HD7 a couple of times till you got one with the right screen?

So disappointed with my N4 :(

I sold my S3 and switched to my old GNex while I waited on the N4. Ordered, shipped pretty much right away and got it. But now I'm actually quite disappointed. The screen is awful compared to the GNex or S3. Wireless display doesn't work (I guess I can blame Netgear for that). Wireless charging doesn't work right (Qi certified chargers should work on all Qi devices IMHO).
All in all, I actually miss my GNex, and think I may just go back to that. Nothing on the N4 amazes me.
Me > sad.

I used the device in store today, although the screen isn't anywhere near sgs3 in terms of colour, its not as bad as you make it out to be

roughavoc said:
I used the device in store today, although the screen isn't anywhere near sgs3 in terms of colour, its not as bad as you make it out to be
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I have it in front of me side by side with my GNex - and the difference is insane. Colors are washed out, black is grey and the contract is poor.
In *my* opinion, one of the worst displays I've seen in a long time. Samsung has spoiled me...

The only thing I will agree with is the screen. Not as vibrant as my Vibrant was, but I don't care. I have a phone that does everything I want it to. Have not tried wireless charging yet and probably will never use the wireless display.
Sell it to someone who wants it and go back to your old phone.

I hate the amoled screen on the Gnex versus N4. The N4 is a huge improvement. It isn't "washed out" its just not oversaturated like half the phones on the market are.

Yeah, it will not looked as over-saturated as an amoled screen. Amoleds might look colorful, but are way too over-saturated in my opinion. What you are seeing on the Nexus 4 is how the colors should look. The Nexus 4s that are being shipped haven't been calibrated properly, but at least they don't look as insane as an amoled screen.

Sigh
Another user who had become accustomed to poor amoled screens.
The colours that amoled shows are not correct, they are severely oversaturated.
Sent from my HTC ONE X using Tapatalk 2

Yep. Even Samsung will veer away from amoled
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chrisjcks said:
Sigh
Another user who had become accustomed to poor amoled screens.
The colours that amoled shows are not correct, they are severely oversaturated.
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Exactly, I like the S3 screen but i realize it is not accurate coloring! Amoleds make you believe what you are seeing is how colors look in real life. The IPS in the N4 is more accurate and sharper.

I understand where many people are coming from when they say "washed out screen", but when you compare it to the overly saturated Samsung screens it does make a huge difference. I honestly love the N4 screen and think it's 10x better than the gNex, and is not even compareable to my G2X...I must say however, that the N4 has an unbelieveably nice, realistic color looking scheme with it's screen and I absolutely adore it!

Lol OP sounds like a bit of a troll.

I'm coming from a Gnex, and I have been extremely impressed with the speed of the N4. The colors on my Gnex were very purple, but a custom kernel and ROM were able to correct it. The screen on the N4 looks a little white in comparison, way better than purple. I can live with this for now, but I will be flashing as soon as any worthwhile looking ROM and kernels come out.

I'm also coming from a GNex. I like the N4 screen so much more. The colors on the GNex always made the icons and a lot of other things seem cartoonish to me. The N4 seems so much more natural. When I first got my GNex one of the first things I looked for was a kernel with some kind of voodoo color... Same thing with my Nexus S.
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ScottC said:
I sold my S3 and switched to my old GNex while I waited on the N4. Ordered, shipped pretty much right away and got it. But now I'm actually quite disappointed. The screen is awful compared to the GNex or S3. Wireless display doesn't work (I guess I can blame Netgear for that). Wireless charging doesn't work right (Qi certified chargers should work on all Qi devices IMHO).
All in all, I actually miss my GNex, and think I may just go back to that. Nothing on the N4 amazes me.
Me > sad.
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Your eyes has been messed up by samsung amoled screen their colors are always saturated and exposed. Its not accurate. With both the GNex and the SIII you've been on their drug for too long. Welcome back to reality.
Just to make sure your device isn't defective try visiting a tmobile store and compare your phone with the ones on display to see if its the same.

dpaul007 said:
The only thing I will agree with is the screen. Not as vibrant as my Vibrant was, but I don't care. I have a phone that does everything I want it to. Have not tried wireless charging yet and probably will never use the wireless display.
Sell it to someone who wants it and go back to your old phone.
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I agree - it does do everything I want it to - but so did my GNex - the whole purpose of dropping another $350 on a phone, is that the upgrade is actually an upgrade.
Only upside is that they are in such high demand that it'll sell with a profit. Sorry to whoever buys it and feels ripped off by me

cloud1111 said:
Lol OP sounds like a bit of a troll.
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LOL? Really? Just because my opinion isn't something you agree with doesn't make me a troll.
I've been here for quite a few years, and you are the first to ever call me a troll. Kudos.

Are you sure that your display isn't acted screwed up? I had a galaxy note, an s3 and a galaxy nexus. I love samoled but the screen on my n4 is also amazing and much better in many respects.
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only 2 things bug me about the n4
1. static noise from headset (well not really since you only hear it in a quiet room and put the phone to your ear)
2. battery life
amoled is so bad in low brightness, turns useless when you're outside, and the burn in

droidmakespwn said:
Are you sure that your display isn't acted screwed up? I had a galaxy note, an s3 and a galaxy nexus. I love samoled but the screen on my n4 is also amazing and much better in many respects.
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I thought the same thing, then I compared it at the local T-Mobile store and it looks the same. I guess Amoled really did screw me up - but at least black is actually black on that. Given the comments here, it is clearly a personal thing. I just can't get used to the washed out colors. Reception is also weaker and audio over Bluetooth crackles.
Don't get me wrong - it is a gorgeous phone, but I had hoped for more.

Yeah, I agree the N4 looks more washed out, but as everyone has said, it's all about OLED and the perceived color compared to realistic color.
I also noticed that my GNex had more of a yellow (warmer) tint to it whereas the N4 is more bluish-white. I much prefer the N4 screen and it's not even close.

Boy do I miss the blacks...

I'm guessing many N4 owners were previously using an S3, Galaxy Nexus, Note (like me) or any other device with an amoled display. I just compared my screen (On the Clock app in night mode) with my dad's One S side by side and although I knew the blacks would never be as good on the N4, it hit me hard - the blacks suck.
I guess that can sound very wrong if taken out of context but in my opinion LG could have done better here, I'd like to hear what you guys think.
Not that it will change anything but a pointless conversation between some black screen enthusiasts - what else is the internet for anyway?
Shaizer out.

No. Just stop.

AshtonTS said:
No. Just stop.
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kindly elaborate

IMHO, I think you've gotten too used to AMOLED screens.
But, you do notice the non pentile? The more natural colors? Brighter display?
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Shaizer said:
I'm guessing many N4 owners were previously using an S3, Galaxy Nexus, Note (like me) or any other device with an amoled display. I just compared my screen (On the Clock app in night mode) with my dad's One S side by side and although I knew the blacks would never be as good on the N4, it hit me hard - the blacks suck.
I guess that can sound very wrong if taken out of context but in my opinion LG could have done better here, I'd like to hear what you guys think.
Not that it will change anything but a pointless conversation between some black screen enthusiasts - what else is the internet for anyway?
Shaizer out.
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Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-

Guess you never ran the black color test to see how bad gradients were on the Note/s3
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Once you go AMOLED black, you never go back

gagdude said:
IMHO, I think you've gotten too used to AMOLED screens.
But, you do notice the non pentile? The more natural colors? Brighter display?
Sent from my DROID2 using xda premium
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I got over the colours a while ago, the N4 does seem much more natural and premium but the issue here is the black - I can see it when I turn my lights off - probably will take some more time to get used to that.

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It's an LCD. You knew that when you bought the phone. No need to make another thread complaining about some aspect of this phone, especially something not specific to this phone in any way at all

phositadc said:
Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
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Haha I don't believe in taboos, I live and feed on internet controversy. I highly doubt anyone can say they prefer the N4 IPS black to amoled black, colours are a different argument but blacks - hands down amoled.

You're wrong in guessing that most people came from an AMOLED screen. I am coming from a One X and the LCDs are beautiful. To each his own.

There are pros and cons to both technologies. *shrug*
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2 more to the list.

your complaining about a physical constraint of an IPS panel. You can't compare amoled black because it doesn't produce black, its just off.
I'm more happy that I no longer have screen burn in and my movies don't ghost.
Edit: if you compare this IPS to maybe the iPhone IPS then we can have a discussion
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

phositadc said:
Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
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criticism of an already known fact.
the OP stresses an advantage of AMOLEDs and dismisses the various great aspects of LCDs like sharpness, bright display, less power consumption.. etc. he should have known what he was sacrificing when he chose to buy a phone with an LCD display. pointless thread.

The blacks are about as good as it gets on an LCD, TBH. They'll never be as good as AMOLED and if that's important to you then just stick with AMOLED. I've found that I spend a very small amount of time looking at screens with predominantly dark backgrounds, while I spend way more time looking at screens with white backgrounds, like webpages. And the whites on AMOLED are sickly looking.

After a year of having the GNex I can definitively say I like the display on the n4 much better. I am still using a solid black background on my n4 and the blacks seem plenty black to me. Putting them side by side I can definitely see a slight difference in black level but overall the n4 display looks better.

this thread is bordering on the edge of racism methinks!
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I miss the real blacks from the galaxy nexus, but this one is great too.
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phositadc said:
Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
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I'm coming from a Galaxy S with an AMOLED then a S2 with an AMOLED over the last two and a half years. This screen looks wonderful to me. I haven't sat down and examined the difference between the two screens in different conditions, and tested it or whatever else, but I am quite happy with the screen. I don't think I'm just being a fanboy here and rather being realistic, and I've showed my friends too and they can't see anything wrong with the Nexus' screen.

No more screen color posts!

Hi,
As unappealing as it is, our Nexus 4 has an IPS screen instead of an AMOLED screen, which in turn uses a lot more battery (black lights up to show you black, instead of turning off the pixel like on AMOLED), and doesn't give you the options needed to control your screen to display the right color.
Comparing to a stock HTC One S, which has AMOLED, red is dark red, green is too dull, gray has a lot more black, and black is dark blue. There is just no possible way to get out of this.
Even when I turned Green and Blue to 0, and set Red to 255, not to mention going to gamma and setting those to the proper options, so that the screen only shows red, it still shows dark red instead of the real red that the AMOLED screen produces.
So stop complaining, and either buy an AMOLED phone (any samsung) or try and replace the phone's screen with an AMOLED one.
If you want to test the values in the SPREADSHEET thread, be my guest, but I've literally tried every single value in there and red just doesn't feel red, and green is always dull. We just have to live with it.

can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try

Blackwolf10 said:
can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try
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lol no, but if you discovered a method please do tell us, i wouldn't mind doing it

*shrug* I personally feel the IPS display on the Nexus 4 does a much better job at displaying more true to life colors than any Amoled phone I've used before. But to each their own.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4

Nothing like starting a new thread about something you do not want others to post about. Makes so much sense.
You are also probably the person who copies all in an email to say do not copy all. Of course after 40 other people did the same thing.

my previous phone was a GS3, the oversaturated colors of AMOLED panels might look nice in some cases, but the colors are not realistic, whites are never whites, they are grey, a lot of tinting and smearing problems, a very big chance of burn-in and ghosting problems even if you take care of your devices (happened to my galaxy nexus even though i used minimal brightness levels and 15sec screen-off, my burn in was under the notification and Navbar area). So IMO, and based on my own experience with AMOLED displays, i'd take an IPS LCD panel everytime.
Concerning our nexus 4 in particular, i've found that it depends from one device to another, my nexus 4 has absolutely an amazing display, beautiful colors, i'd say it's comparable to displays on HTC phones. Everytime i'd see a thread complaining about the display, washed out colors etc.. , i'd think it's just another troll. Then i saw my friend's phone, and damn those colors were really dull.
Another thing is , another friend and i have issues with delayed notifications over wifi, the friend with dull-colors-phone doesn't have it.
Conclusion: not all problems are present on all devices, it's very unfair to generalize. Maybe your display is on the "bad side" , or maybe your are used to AMOLED displays and actually like them more. It's a matter of personal taste.

An untuned ips screen just makes the device feel low end and cheap. Much like a cheap acer tablet, an untuned screen of a nexus 10 looks like crap. With an amoled screen it feels vivid and pleasing to the eye, sunsets in movies feel warmer and scenes look much more dramatic. Its not about how close something looks like in real life, its about immersing yourself in a more vivid experience. Amoled and ips screen with color enhancement all day.

Thread title: stop complaining!
OP: complaining
Lesson: WAT?
Anyway I'm tired of glorifying cartoonish pentile amoled displays. Sureal colors, yellow-grayish whites, almost no visibility under sunlight... I do a little photo editing, and comparing amoled and ips it's almost impossible. LCD provides better viewing angles, brightness (whites on the n4 are superb), and true colors (on amoled photos look like they've been applied thousand filters, over saturated).
N4, Cataclysm+Franco

first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
Also, I'm not complaining about anything, i love my screen, i think it's a definite improvement from the desire z that i used to own. But again this thread is meant to stop other users from making threads like this, and just live with it.
so the lesson isn't "WAT", and OP isn't "complaining"... the lesson is the title.
thank you.
Sent from my Nexus 4

Riro Zizo said:
first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
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You made a thread to stop people complaining, by making a thread for people to complain in .
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lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint

Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.

simms22 said:
lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint
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again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
ruzkay said:
Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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Riro Zizo said:
i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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Nexus 4 has a really nice display IMO..

Riro Zizo said:
again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
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i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color

Emama said:
I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.
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So root it, flash custom kernel and load color profile you like. I agree stock colors are washed out but now it's on pair with iphone5
CM 10.2 + franco

rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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galaxy nexus' white color is pure yellow, i've compared it directly to my stock screen colors.
simms22 said:
i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color
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ok... I'll shut up
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rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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In my opinion, the GNEX screen was one of the worst screens I have seen...

LG G2 vs Nexus 5 Screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Have fun! Screen is really bad , did google mess calibration again or just the screen is bad?

hamad138 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Have fun! Screen is really bad , did google mess calibration again or just the screen is bad?
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Um, what he say for the rest of us they don't speak your language?

Yep definitely some grammar and syntax issues here. Nothing like broken English to not get your point across.
Personally I'm going to wait till a decent side-by-side screen comparison video with an iPhone 4s or later.
I trust Apple's calibration a hell of a lot more than on the LG G2.

hamad138 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Have fun! Screen is really bad , did google mess calibration again or just the screen is bad?
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I sold the g2 to get the nexus 5
I can tell you the screen is not bad in my opinion, not to say the g2 is not good however in my opinion the slightly smaller screen and higher ppi does make just that little bit sharper and the colours seem great to me.

Probably not calibrated like the last since that is manufacture optimization. Probably going to need Franco to make it look good.
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Its the calibration. They supposedly use the same LCD panel.
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I know it's just a benchmark, but did you notice the Note 3 smoked all of them?
Maybe the benchmark program can't take advantage of the enhancements in 4.4?

Different screens. 5.2" vs 4.95".
Not apples to apples!

hamad138 said:
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Have fun! Screen is really bad , did google mess calibration again or just the screen is bad?
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Thanks! Fun good, screen good, or is just pic bad?

p51d007 said:
I know it's just a benchmark, but did you notice the Note 3 smoked all of them?
Maybe the benchmark program can't take advantage of the enhancements in 4.4?
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The Note 3 is probably optimizing itself for those specific benchmarks, I wouldn't trust those results.

Probably the calibration. We will try our best to get the best calibrated profile for the N5 (PA Team).

From the numerous videos etc I've seen it seems like the temperature/whites are ok, just the colours are a bit washed.
Hoping franco releases an n5 compatible version of his display control app so the rob values can be adjusted/improved.
Not sure if I have the balls yet for custom kernels etc.

You can mess with the colors and set them to your liking.

I've been comparing mine to my iphone 5's screen, honestly I can't see any difference. Although if someone could explain calibration test images to me I could do a quick comparison there as well.

From the feedback. It seems the g2 has clearer and a more vibrant screen than the n5. We ll see once reviews start rolling out.

Umm, how do you tell the screen is "really bad" from that video? It does seem more reflective which is a shame because it will look more washed out outside but aside from that, I don't see any evidence of "messed up calibration" there.

All I can compare it to is the HTC One and the N5 screen is nowhere compared to that, not even on the same planet. Colours are flat, blacks are grey, viewing angles are poor... relatively..

ChrisM75 said:
All I can compare it to is the HTC One and the N5 screen is nowhere compared to that, not even on the same planet. Colours are flat, blacks are grey, viewing angles are poor... relatively..
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As long as it can get "fixed" with some mod idc honestly. All i care is screen hardware and ips screens are gorgeoua.

caribouxda said:
As long as it can get "fixed" with some mod idc honestly. All i care is screen hardware and ips screens are gorgeoua.
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I doubt it can be fixed. You can calibrate any screen, or at least try to, but if it fundamentally isnt that great, it will always remain so. There is little you can do about viewing angles.

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As long as it can get "fixed" with some mod idc honestly. All i care is screen hardware and ips screens are gorgeoua.
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Poor blacks can't be fixed.
Has anyone compared it directly to the N4 screen? Both indoors and outdoors/in direct sunlight. I suspect the N5 screen is even more reflective and washes out more.