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Screen flickering a 312mhz

HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
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the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i can feel that its running at a lower frequency....

Ayle said:
HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i cant feel that its running at a lower frequency....
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Are you for real? This must be a prank post!
I mean, be for real! The Wizard runs stock at 195MHZ, the author basically warns you that monkeys might fly out of your ass if you overclock so you push it the max and complain that you're experiencing weird stuff?????
(Bet your battery drains faster also, but that just a thought)
Thanks a million! Had a tiff with the wife and you've gotten a smile out of me!
(Also, these types of post are better served in the Wizard forum, not here. (Has nothing to do with Upgrading)
As an aside, I think the most common speed here is 260MHZ with BatteryStatus...
In the 60's we were told "speed kills" ... now I know why!

Yeah the overclocking wasn't stable and affected the framebuffer or other display related speed setting and thus caused your "vibrating letters" from the sounds of things. Just to remind you that overclocking can affect RAM timings too so it may have a negative (read: PERMANENT) effect on your RAM in there too.

Dr Puttingham said:
Are you for real? This must be a prank post!
I mean, be for real! The Wizard runs stock at 195MHZ, the author basically warns you that monkeys might fly out of your ass if you overclock so you push it the max and complain that you're experiencing weird stuff?????
(Bet your battery drains faster also, but that just a thought)
Thanks a million! Had a tiff with the wife and you've gotten a smile out of me!
(Also, these types of post are better served in the Wizard forum, not here. (Has nothing to do with Upgrading)
As an aside, I think the most common speed here is 260MHZ with BatteryStatus...
In the 60's we were told "speed kills" ... now I know why!
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It was just to try, and no my battery dont drain that faster, I lost ~7% in 1hour with bluetooth and wifi activated. I tried the 312 settings to see how fast wm6 was at the frequency since most of the device with the legit version will run at that speed. Simple curiosity since the setting was there. But still I'm wondering what in that Omap less overclockable that say a Xscale? I remember being able to get 100mhz out of my iPaq hx2210..... And I know that the regular setting is 260 for the Wizard but even at that speed on my particular device coolcamera is sluggish and videos on Coreplayer are like slideshows this is why I choose a higher setting...... But thanks for telling me what was affected by the overspeeding....

clock speed 400mhz
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help

easymob said:
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help
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try upping it to 500mhz that always helps me.
and about the usb fan. you can try putting it in the freezer to get the temp down.

500mhz
hiimcliff said:
try upping it to 500mhz that always helps me.
and about the usb fan. you can try putting it in the freezer to get the temp down.
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hi thanks for the advice i uped it to 500 mhz and its working like a charm
the only trouble now is that i cant hear the phone ringing in the freezer
please help

Well you see the light that comes on in the freezer? Well if you take the buld out and wire the 2 pins directly to a loudspeaker it becomes a bluetooth cellphone ringtone amplifier.

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easymob said:
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help
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that was good... Acually I never asked for help just information about what was causing the problem other than the overlcocking......

Not that I've been here long...but this is the first time I've actually seem some humor on this forum...I LOL'd.

Ayle said:
HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i can feel that its running at a lower frequency....
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Running your wizard that fast is like putting it on crack or meth. Good luck, hope it doesn't melt.
--M

Jeeeez dont you guys have nothing else to do than poking fun at me?

Ayle said:
Jeeeez dont you guys have nothing else to do than poking fun at me?
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We could beat you... I have to say sincerely thanks for posting and thanks to the funny responses, it has been refreshing.
--M

Only 500???
Come on, someone ought to be brave and push the GHz mark with their Wizard. As a bonus, it may even save on your home heating bill!

Im really sick of the way some people act on this forum
we all know you can put phones in freezers. This forum isnt made for jokes or lies, some people are really trying to get help. What happened if someone really put it in the freezer?? Then what would be so funny?
Newbies: please don't do anything anyone has said here, phones that are overclocked obviously need to be held under running water. Make sure to press all the buttons so the water can get to the problem source.
Honestly, i really cant believe you guys

Delete Me, and grr to the post length rule

shiggins9 said:
Come on, someone ought to be brave and push the GHz mark with their Wizard. As a bonus, it may even save on your home heating bill!
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I think that maybe a car battery might work, run the AC (putting the phone in front of a vent of course), direct wire the phone--you don't need to worry about a fuse--I don't think it will run much more than 3 or 4 seconds--it'll be fast for a little bit.
--M

BBowermaster said:
Delete Me, and grr to the post length rule
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oh come on, i wish everyone could see your original post lol, we all have our moments

LOL, I didn't read your entire post at first, and thought you were serious, then I read the "run it under water" part and was like, "crap, he fooled me."

lol good im glad, i wanted to sound really mean

[Q] Quadrant Score

hey guys
ive recently flashed this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975349
and im getting quadrant scores btw 1400 to 1600
is there any way to increase them
i read somewhere it can be increased by using some file named ' build.prop'

I am on Darky's 10.1 using DarkCore, and I'm getting about 1200 with EXT4 lagfixes enabled.

i used to get 1900 - 2100 back on stock froyo with OCLF 2.1

if it is only about increasing the quadrant score, you could download tegrak overclock tool from market and increase the CPU to 1.25 Ghz..
or, before that you can disable lagfix, switch to CF-root, enable all tweaks (including media stage someting), and then apply overclock and it ll hit around 2350 ...

use damians latest kernel.. quadrant scores of more than 3000 are reported(use jvp as ur firmware) hope this helps..

I just can't understand why people are so obsessed with quadrant scores??? Frankly with stock Rom with ext4 the normal score is around 1500 and with custom ROM you can get around 1700-1800 - that's it (and you can gain around 100 more by removing the journaling of the the ext4 system). Quadrant isn't reliable benchmark and people should stop striving to get higher quadrant scores.
Anyway - if you want high quadrant scores just enable stagefright if you don't mind not being able to play certain video and audio formats on your phone - at least you'll be able to brag about you scores.

quardrant scores shouldnt be an obsession..... but just merely a certain reference once in awhile....

ROM: Miui MCGv 6.13.1
Kernel: Neo7
Quadrant's Score: 1737

JunaidZaka said:
hey guys
ive recently flashed this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975349
and im getting quadrant scores btw 1400 to 1600
is there any way to increase them
i read somewhere it can be increased by using some file named ' build.prop'
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Try F1 JVP ROM as base and go experiment with speedmod kernels i got up to a stable 1.5Ghz with my phone (but very short battery life):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058814
Also make sure all apps and processes are closed using taskmanager. Then start Quadrant score i got around 2900+ using JVP.

ROM: Miui MCGv 6.13.1
Kernel: Neo7
Quadrant's Score: 1957
No OC but UV between -50 to -125

ROM: XXJVH
Kernel: GTO
Benchmark: 3268
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Mods need to start closing some of these Quadrant threads, because, there are way too many.
Quadrant scores are great, if you are simply chasing a placebo (or you want the opportunity to grow your ePenis). If you want a phone which is productive though, throw the benchmark in the bin and run a blind test.
You are only testing if Quadrant is faster, not if other applications are. It is possible that optimising for Quadrant may lead to other applications being dramatically slower (because Quadrant isn't detailed enough). You will notice that the Wikipedia article is almost exclusively about the inaccuracies of benchmarking, and that developers generally don't use standard benchmarks (almost every developer will use a test suite that pops out pages of "user unfriendly garbage").
Quadrant simply doesn't provide enough information to tell you what operations is faster.
An optimisation might yield a 6x speedup of directory creation, at the cost of a 2x file writing slowdown. If quadrant is coded poorly and weighs the tests equally, it might tell you the optimisation was worth it (it will be 4x speedup overall). However, in normal usage, you might write to files 10000x more than create directories, so in the real world, it might be actually slower.
It's even less worth it considering that the time most people waste running benchmarks, and optimising their phone (sometimes they spend an hour or so), is never regained in productivity gains again.
That is just an opinion though

Auzy said:
Mods need to start closing some of these Quadrant threads, because, there are way too many.
Quadrant scores are great, if you are simply chasing a placebo (or you want the opportunity to grow your ePenis). If you want a phone which is productive though, throw the benchmark in the bin and run a blind test.
You are only testing if Quadrant is faster, not if other applications are. It is possible that optimising for Quadrant may lead to other applications being dramatically slower (because Quadrant isn't detailed enough). You will notice that the Wikipedia article is almost exclusively about the inaccuracies of benchmarking, and that developers generally don't use standard benchmarks (almost every developer will use a test suite that pops out pages of "user unfriendly garbage").
Quadrant simply doesn't provide enough information to tell you what operations is faster.
An optimisation might yield a 6x speedup of directory creation, at the cost of a 2x file writing slowdown. If quadrant is coded poorly and weighs the tests equally, it might tell you the optimisation was worth it (it will be 4x speedup overall). However, in normal usage, you might write to files 10000x more than create directories, so in the real world, it might be actually slower.
It's even less worth it considering that the time most people waste running benchmarks, and optimising their phone (sometimes they spend an hour or so), is never regained in productivity gains again.
That is just an opinion though
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Yes, your right and I know it but anyway is something that cans show something of the power of the phone. (sorry by the bad english).
Now, with Miui MCGv6.15 and the Neo7 kernel I've 1939 on Quadrant

Quadrant does not tell anything from speed and you can easily cheat on that test

galaxysdev said:
Quadrant does not tell anything from speed and you can easily cheat on that test
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Right. But if the dev's or SGS owners don't cheat the test, it could be credible.

You are all alright , but aniway ..
Quadrant : 2843
Antutu Benchmark : 2543
JVP Deodex , Alpha Damian 1 2.2

alasth said:
You are all alright , but aniway ..
Quadrant : 2843
Antutu Benchmark : 2543
JVP Deodex , Alpha Damian 1 2.2
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Which is your kernel?
[EDIT] I see it now. Sorry ^^

JunaidZaka said:
hey guys
ive recently flashed this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975349
and im getting quadrant scores btw 1400 to 1600
is there any way to increase them
i read somewhere it can be increased by using some file named ' build.prop'
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Okay wouldnt be a better question be whats the fastest rom?
Im still on GingerReal cause it is a combination of both a stable as a fast rom. Quadrant score of GingerReal isnt that high somewhere around 1500 - 1600. I never have forced closes and loading of files etc. go like crazy.
Tried CyanModGen and MIUI which are both great roms but they arent that stable and still have some minor known issues. I'll probably change my ROM until of one of the above have a stable rom.
What is working the best for u guys (and girls offcourse)?
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thanks for all your replies guys
i think the better question wouldve been whats the fastest rom in terms of performance?
becuz i do experience a little bit of lag while playing some games

nrbuitenhius said:
Okay wouldnt be a better question be whats the fastest rom?
Im still on GingerReal cause it is a combination of both a stable as a fast rom. Quadrant score of GingerReal isnt that high somewhere around 1500 - 1600. I never have forced closes and loading of files etc. go like crazy.
Tried CyanModGen and MIUI which are both great roms but they arent that stable and still have some minor known issues. I'll probably change my ROM until of one of the above have a stable rom.
What is working the best for u guys (and girls offcourse)?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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I will try that ROM

[KERNEL] CM7 Nightly kernel with OC/RAM hack + tweaks

Howdy,
I've been using the CM7 nightly builds for a while now and figured it'd be nice to have a kernel that's based on CM7 with overclocking, RAM hack and couple of other tweaks. This kernel is pretty similar to the volkKernel but I wanted to have my own
Changes:
* Overclocking up to 1500 mhz (only through pimp my cpu at the moment)
* Default I/O scheduler of NOOP
I'll try to keep it up to date with the latest CM7 kernel sources.

[Releases]
Third release based on nightly #114
http://www.mediafire.com/?r57gqyuvhujwk6g
Second release based on nightly #101
* Removed RAM hack
* Balanced out the CPU clock values a little bit
http://www.mediafire.com/?1waipap3c71hat3
Initial release based on nightly #79
http://www.mediafire.com/file/w3e0s3vxwtznclz/cm7_79.zip

very nice welcome on board ^^

fallout0 said:
Howdy,
* Overclocking up to 1500 mhz (only through pimp my cpu at the moment)
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Can't use setcpu?

i would like to use OC via CMParts ^^

Hmmm pardon me for asking, but why is it a 32mb RAM hack now instead of 64mb? Is it to resolve the gallery bugs?

I am using the original cpujauste o/c code that's why it only works with pimp my CPU. ill look into the others tomorrow to get that working
The 64mb hack caused issues for people with 1080p recording and the gallery. ill try it again and see how it works

ok, i found some bugs.
1. Reboot doesn't work. I guess thats because of the 32MB Ram Hack (for the vorkkernal, reboot doesn't work either)
2. After running a couple of hours, you only get around 50% of your CPU performance. Maybe the scheduler isn't optimized well. I recognized it by playing n64oid and it has lagged. Also I only get 3900 points at Antutu instead of ~5000 points.

ranrick said:
ok, i found some bugs.
1. Reboot doesn't work. I guess thats because of the 32MB Ram Hack (for the vorkkernal, reboot doesn't work either)
2. After running a couple of hours, you only get around 50% of your CPU performance. Maybe the scheduler isn't optimized well. I recognized it by playing n64oid and it has lagged. Also I only get 3900 points at Antutu instead of ~5000 points.
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I think it's actually booting at ~700mhz by default so unless you set it up in pimp my cpu it'll stay at ~700 mhz. Probably why it's lagging.

We need more people working on kernels, thanks for doing so. Any improvements on battery life? Personally I find CM7 battery life to be pretty bad.

fallout0 said:
I think it's actually booting at ~700mhz by default so unless you set it up in pimp my cpu it'll stay at ~700 mhz. Probably why it's lagging.
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Yep, now running with 1ghz again ^^

Can i request Voodoo Sound support?

Hey fallout0,
Nice work mate.
I think the general consensus is to not have the 64mb hack in kernels judging from a couple of poles about only 20% wanting the hack, probably less now.
I prefer to not have the hack at all imho, far too many instabilities for zero gain that being said I have yet to find a completely stable o/c kernel to use - stock seems to be the only completely stable kernel.
Be trying yours later on today so keep up the good work!
-smc

somemadcaaant said:
Hey fallout0,
Nice work mate.
I think the general consensus is to not have the 64mb hack in kernels judging from a couple of poles about only 20% wanting the hack, probably less now.
I prefer to not have the hack at all imho, far too many instabilities for zero gain that being said I have yet to find a completely stable o/c kernel to use - stock seems to be the only completely stable kernel.
Be trying yours later on today so keep up the good work!
-smc
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Hey
Cheers
The ram hack and even overclocking support are pretty nasty hacks. Having said that I like the ability of adjusting voltages/maximum frequencies and until there is a better solution I think it's worth having this one
I agree about the RAM hack. I tried volkKernel and besides the reboot issue I didn't have any problems with the 32mb RAM hack. However the extra 32mb of RAM might not even be that useful.
I'll see how things pan out with this one then remove/add things as people complain

fallout0 said:
Hey
Cheers
The ram hack and even overclocking support are pretty nasty hacks. Having said that I like the ability of adjusting voltages/maximum frequencies and until there is a better solution I think it's worth having this one
I agree about the RAM hack. I tried volkKernel and besides the reboot issue I didn't have any problems with the 32mb RAM hack. However the extra 32mb of RAM might not even be that useful.
I'll see how things pan out with this one then remove/add things as people complain
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Can't the reboot issue be easily resolved? According to RC, the bootloader expects the reboot-information to be at 128MB + 11 bytes, while the system writes it to [MB Reserved for Graphics]+11 bytes. As long as no ram-hack is applied, it'll of course be in the right place. Shouldn't it be easy for a kernel to just copy what is at [MB RESERVED]+11 to [128MB]+11 before shutdown?
Just talking by the seat of my pants here, haven't looked at any of the sourcecode, but it certainly feels feasible.
::Trym

I wish for that kernal:
- option on 32mb hack
- AVP/SD ram OC
- CMPart OC settings
thats it ^^

He-hey!))) This kernel is almost burnt my phone off.... Came upstairs after the dinner and found the phone off and very-very hooot... So, now I'm waiting for it to cool down a bit... Hope it'll turn on again)))
Update: Thank God that it didn't turn into BRICK))) Came on again and I've flashed it back to vorkkernel.
I am using MIUI ROM.

Very good works!! I have now tested with CM7 ROM "nightly full-77" version.
Fantastic Quadrant Score!!!
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TrymHansen said:
Can't the reboot issue be easily resolved? According to RC, the bootloader expects the reboot-information to be at 128MB + 11 bytes, while the system writes it to [MB Reserved for Graphics]+11 bytes. As long as no ram-hack is applied, it'll of course be in the right place. Shouldn't it be easy for a kernel to just copy what is at [MB RESERVED]+11 to [128MB]+11 before shutdown?
Just talking by the seat of my pants here, haven't looked at any of the sourcecode, but it certainly feels feasible.
::Trym
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I thought about it, and decided against it. Writing random information into active RAM is never a good idea.

so far so good with this kernel on RC1...
we want more OC !!!
moooooooore!

Juicing Speed Out of This Phone

There does not seem to be a thread on what we can do to get the most speed out of the phone, only individual posts in the different ROM threads, now buried in the posts of times. So here one is, even if it is in the wrong thread. As always, your mileage may vary.
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Tweaks Built Into CM9/CM10
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These are basic tweaks built into CM9 and CM10, in the settings app. All ROMs based off of these should also have these settings.
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The first one is just to make it feel faster.
Settings >> Developer Options
Changing these three values will change the speed of the animation. Change them all to ".5" to make things feel faster.
NOTE: Changing "Window Animation Scale" to anything that is not 1x in Camcory's CM10 will disable the CRT Off lock animation.
Settings >> Performance
16 bit transparency
I have gotten visual artifacts when using it, so I haven't ever used it and the goal is speed and stability.
Surface Improvement
Run wild. None of these seem to make a performance or stability difference.
Processor
CPU Governor: The two best options (in my own opinion) are "OnDemand" and "Conservative." They only difference between them is how fast the ramp up your CPU frequency. Conservative is slower, and gives slightly better battery life.
We are not overclocking today, since we are trying to remain as stable as possible, and because SmartGuy's OC Kernel has disappeared.
I/O scheduler
We're not going there yet.
Memory management
zRam. Debatable, but 10% or 18% seems to work fine (with no adverse affects.)
The others: absolutely turn on.
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Pimp My Rom
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Pimp My Rom. The All-in-One toolbox. It is hard to go into detail, and none of them are "bad." I'll just tell you what I stay away from, either because we cover them elsewhere, or I have no idea what they do.
Before you try anything here, "Tools >> Rescue Package" to download the flashable zip to fix PmR problems.
Things aren't supposed to go wrong, but they do sometimes. It's a failsafe.
Now, I don't touch:
Tweaks >>Multitasking (gets covered later)
>>Dalvik VM (no idea what it does)
>>Miscellaneous >> "Optimize sqlite3" and "Zipalign all..." (get covered later)
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The V6 Supercharger and KAKernalizer
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Script Manager is needed to run V6 and KAK.
Place both scripts that you downloaded from the fourm page onto your phone. Anywhere accessible. Find 'em and Run 'em. Make sure the "Su icon is pressed"
On KAK, just run the first option.
On V6, install everything, including the Nitro Lag Nullifier (option 21 I believe) and run option 12. Make sure the Min Free values match.
You may have to re-run option 12 after a reboot. And if your phone is lagging, try running option 17, the Engine Flush, to free up some resources. I have this one set up to run hourly with Tasker.
Hey we just got the "at boots" and the OOM killer settings from PmR covered and the I/O Scheduler from the Settings covered at the same time!
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Seeder
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Seeder is relatively new to the speed scene, and has already raised and uproar receiving comments for and against from Cyanogen and Google Android Devs alike. Whether it is a real lag killer or a placebo, I've noticed a difference, and that is what counts, right? how it feels.
This one is simple. Download the apk, install, open it up, enable and set at boot.
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ROM Toolbox
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This app hails from the makes of "SuperUser" and "Busybox Installer," the essential apps in any rooting process. Now here we will be culling our start-up apps only, but there are many other feature you can goof around with. Just be careful out there son.:crying:
Tools >> AutoStart Manager"
Now you can disable the apps you think you should disable.
Feel free to go into the other events and disable apps, but be warned: some apps will cease to work if their call signs are disabled.
As far as other things tips go, just be careful apps you install. The kindof app that run all the time are the ones you want to download very infreqently. I also use Watchdog to see if any apps are eating all my CPU and use Rescan Media Root to stop "Android Media Process" when it runs amuck.
Of course, there is only so much you can do. Even with these, you will still have a phone that lags and can't run all the best games. Hopefully this just makes it more bearable for you.
Feedback is appreciated. Comment on what works and what doesn't, as well as other things you've tried to make things run smoothly! Happy hacking!
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Just tried seeder. I think it made a difference?
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I'm working on linaro cm10, on full linaro the camera doesn't work, so I have a ROM with everything strict alising, and linaro optimesed except the lib folder, which only takes 100 points or so off the benchmark.
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I think the only issue with all these tweaks is that there is too much of a good thing if you will. That's been a major downside around the forum here. The one thing I have learned is that you can tweak this phone from here to eternity but you will never get that "SIII" performance people seem to think they will get. You got a single core processor and 512mb of RAM so it is what it is. Don't get me wrong, a FEW tweaks are helpful but if you overdo it they will all cancel out each other.
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ArtfulDodger said:
I think the only issue with all these tweaks is that there is too much of a good thing if you will. That's been a major downside around the forum here. The one thing I have learned is that you can tweak this phone from here to eternity but you will never get that "SIII" performance people seem to think they will get. You got a single core processor and 512mb of RAM so it is what it is. Don't get me wrong, a FEW tweaks are helpful but if you overdo it they will all cancel out each other.
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Yeah, I tried playing GTA vice city, it laggs so bad even over clocked at 1.9ghz
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I've noticed a pretty big difference with seeder. Im about to flash smartguys3.0 kernel and see how blazing it runs with that.
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Yeah, I tried playing GTA vice city, it laggs so bad even over clocked at 1.9ghz
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ArtfulDodger said:
I think the only issue with all these tweaks is that there is too much of a good thing if you will. That's been a major downside around the forum here. The one thing I have learned is that you can tweak this phone from here to eternity but you will never get that "SIII" performance people seem to think they will get. You got a single core processor and 512mb of RAM so it is what it is. Don't get me wrong, a FEW tweaks are helpful but if you overdo it they will all cancel out each other.
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512 MB of ram you say? Is that what it's supposed to be under the memory spot in the about section in settings?
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#1n00b said:
512 MB of ram you say? Is that what it's supposed to be under the memory spot in the about section in settings?
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No it should say 356. Part of that 512 is not available for use. So in reality we have even less than what's physically there. That is the real problem with this phone. Most of the freezing and lagging is because of the lack of sufficient memory. No amount of memory tweaks help very much either. The OC kernels do help a bit but nothing makes up for not having enough memory. Just like an old PC from 10 years ago that's trying to run Windows 7, think of it that way.

ArtfulDodger said:
No it should say 356. Part of that 512 is not available for use. So in reality we have even less than what's physically there. That is the real problem with this phone. Most of the freezing and lagging is because of the lack of sufficient memory. No amount of memory tweaks help very much either. The OC kernels do help a bit but nothing makes up for not having enough memory. Just like an old PC from 10 years ago that's trying to run Windows 7, think of it that way.
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Man I was worried for a second.
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incredible s becoming unusable

Hi guys,
I think I am at the point in my ownage of the incredible s where I am about ready to launch it off the wall as its driving me mad. It seems to work ok for a little bit then gradually lags and lags and lags until its almost unresponsive. Rebooting the phone just seems to make it go weird, with the gallery losing all the photos/videos etc and requiring a rescan to show everything back where it should be. Apps become so slow that i dont use them (worst of which is Songpop) and im now at the end of my tether.
Is this a common theme with this phone? It is currently unrooted, with the stock 4.0.4 android, and sense 3.6. would rooting it and putting a new rom on solve this?
cheers everyone
Ray

labpedro said:
Hi guys,
I think I am at the point in my ownage of the incredible s where I am about ready to launch it off the wall as its driving me mad. It seems to work ok for a little bit then gradually lags and lags and lags until its almost unresponsive. Rebooting the phone just seems to make it go weird, with the gallery losing all the photos/videos etc and requiring a rescan to show everything back where it should be. Apps become so slow that i dont use them (worst of which is Songpop) and im now at the end of my tether.
Is this a common theme with this phone? It is currently unrooted, with the stock 4.0.4 android, and sense 3.6. would rooting it and putting a new rom on solve this?
cheers everyone
Ray
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It should. The stock sense ROM was quite bloated and slow. In comparison, even optimized sense stock based ROMs like blackout ICS run circles around stock. A new kernel will do a good job too
I had major slowdowns on stock but on blackout ICS (which is probably the stockest sense ROM I can recommend) everytnkngs much better
That's my opinion on it
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markj338 said:
It should. The stock sense ROM was quite bloated and slow. In comparison, even optimized sense stock based ROMs like blackout ICS run circles around stock. A new kernel will do a good job too
I had major slowdowns on stock but on blackout ICS (which is probably the stockest sense ROM I can recommend) everytnkngs much better
That's my opinion on it
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Cheers Mark, I'll have a look at rooting and see what happens
Ray

labpedro said:
Hi guys,
I think I am at the point in my ownage of the incredible s where I am about ready to launch it off the wall as its driving me mad. It seems to work ok for a little bit then gradually lags and lags and lags until its almost unresponsive. Rebooting the phone just seems to make it go weird, with the gallery losing all the photos/videos etc and requiring a rescan to show everything back where it should be. Apps become so slow that i dont use them (worst of which is Songpop) and im now at the end of my tether.
Is this a common theme with this phone? It is currently unrooted, with the stock 4.0.4 android, and sense 3.6. would rooting it and putting a new rom on solve this?
cheers everyone
Ray
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A factory reset could already get it better ( don't forget to backup important data like contacts ) but if you install a custom ROM you will be able to get the best result for the reasons stated in previous post
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well, I did a factory reset on sunday and its running a lot better with no huge slowdowns (yet). I did look at the guides for rooting/s-offing the inc s however whilst I am not a n00b, and consider myself to be proficient in most things, the guide has me baffled as to what to do.
Ah well, looks like im stuck with stock for now

labpedro said:
well, I did a factory reset on sunday and its running a lot better with no huge slowdowns (yet). I did look at the guides for rooting/s-offing the inc s however whilst I am not a n00b, and consider myself to be proficient in most things, the guide has me baffled as to what to do.
Ah well, looks like im stuck with stock for now
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try bootloader unlock. its easier and you just have to remember to fastboot flash the boot.img after a rom flash my inc s absolutely speeds on a custom rom but now i use my gs3 as my main device and my inc s is a lag piece of crap compared to that thing quad core <333

poondog said:
It should. The stock sense ROM was quite bloated and slow. In comparison, even optimized sense stock based ROMs like blackout ICS run circles around stock. A new kernel will do a good job too
I had major slowdowns on stock but on blackout ICS (which is probably the stockest sense ROM I can recommend) everytnkngs much better
That's my opinion on it
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Hello poondog. I have no permitted to post to development-related forums.
I use Kangaroo Kernel r8, and I overclock to 1.497Ghz,then it stuck;after reboot, I oc to 1.2Ghz, and then it also stuck.
I changed the vdd_level but the problem not solved.
But I use redux 0.8 kernel and oc to 1.497Ghz with default vdd_level, it's works fine, no stuck.
Any idea with this problem?

Volftooth said:
Hello poondog. I have no permitted to post to development-related forums.
I use Kangaroo Kernel r8, and I overclock to 1.497Ghz,then it stuck;after reboot, I oc to 1.2Ghz, and then it also stuck.
I changed the vdd_level but the problem not solved.
But I use redux 0.8 kernel and oc to 1.497Ghz with default vdd_level, it's works fine, no stuck.
Any idea with this problem?
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Hi
Yeah something is messed up in the acpu table, szezso also had the same as me and he reverted it. I think I will do the same
Its not your fault its mine, ever since I changed stuff in the acpu table from 3.4
Next release will have it fixed, thanks for your interest

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Yeah something is messed up in the acpu table, szezso also had the same as me and he reverted it. I think I will do the same
Its not your fault its mine, ever since I changed stuff in the acpu table from 3.4
Next release will have it fixed, thanks for your interest
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Thanks for your reply.
I will waiting for your next release.

Volftooth said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will waiting for your next release.
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No problem I am doing it now

poondog said:
No problem I am doing it now
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You are so fast!!
I tried the newest r9 kernel.oc cpu to 1.2GHz 1.4GHz works fine, up to 1.497Ghz it stuck.
And I guess you might missing 184320 and 192000 in freq table.
because I see them in CPU Voltages list use Trickster MOD, and I not see them in OC options drop-list when I tap it.
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Volftooth said:
You are so fast!!
I tried the newest r9 kernel.oc cpu to 1.2GHz 1.4GHz works fine, up to 1.497Ghz it stuck.
And I guess you might missing 184320 and 192000 in freq table.
because I see them in CPU Voltages list use Trickster MOD, and I not see them in OC options drop-list when I tap it.
Waiting for your answer.
ps: 2 posts left I can post to the development-related forums
sorry for op I borrowed your thread
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Nearly there
Must be the voltages don't like your device. (too low)
Because it works fine on my phone :thumbup:
Even 2GHz works
I do not have 184 or 192 cause imo it doesn't need them, they are too close to 122 and 245. Too many frequences close together is not always good, especially for some governors
Try this: Boot the phone again to default settings, go to voltages, bump them all up by like 50 or 100 and then try set it to 1.5

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Nearly there
Must be the voltages don't like your device. (too low)
Because it works fine on my phone :thumbup:
Even 2GHz works
I do not have 184 or 192 cause imo it doesn't need them, they are too close to 122 and 245. Too many frequences close together is not always good, especially for some governors
Try this: Boot the phone again to default settings, go to voltages, bump them all up by like 50 or 100 and then try set it to 1.5
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You are right! I bump up by 50 and it works.The voltage on 1497600 now is 1300.
But I have a qustion: I used Redux 0.8 kernel before, and I adjust the voltage on 1497600 is 1200, it works fine.
why kangaroo r9 can not running on 1497600 by voltages 1200 ?

Volftooth said:
You are right! I bump up by 50 and it works.The voltage on 1497600 now is 1300.
But I have a qustion: I used Redux 0.8 kernel before, and I adjust the voltage on 1497600 is 1200, it works fine.
why kangaroo r9 can not running on 1497600 by voltages 1200 ?
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Not entirely sure, it might be a combination of a lot of things. Kangaroo and Redux are two entirely different beasts