HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
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the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i can feel that its running at a lower frequency....
Ayle said:
HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i cant feel that its running at a lower frequency....
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Are you for real? This must be a prank post!
I mean, be for real! The Wizard runs stock at 195MHZ, the author basically warns you that monkeys might fly out of your ass if you overclock so you push it the max and complain that you're experiencing weird stuff?????
(Bet your battery drains faster also, but that just a thought)
Thanks a million! Had a tiff with the wife and you've gotten a smile out of me!
(Also, these types of post are better served in the Wizard forum, not here. (Has nothing to do with Upgrading)
As an aside, I think the most common speed here is 260MHZ with BatteryStatus...
In the 60's we were told "speed kills" ... now I know why!
Yeah the overclocking wasn't stable and affected the framebuffer or other display related speed setting and thus caused your "vibrating letters" from the sounds of things. Just to remind you that overclocking can affect RAM timings too so it may have a negative (read: PERMANENT) effect on your RAM in there too.
Dr Puttingham said:
Are you for real? This must be a prank post!
I mean, be for real! The Wizard runs stock at 195MHZ, the author basically warns you that monkeys might fly out of your ass if you overclock so you push it the max and complain that you're experiencing weird stuff?????
(Bet your battery drains faster also, but that just a thought)
Thanks a million! Had a tiff with the wife and you've gotten a smile out of me!
(Also, these types of post are better served in the Wizard forum, not here. (Has nothing to do with Upgrading)
As an aside, I think the most common speed here is 260MHZ with BatteryStatus...
In the 60's we were told "speed kills" ... now I know why!
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It was just to try, and no my battery dont drain that faster, I lost ~7% in 1hour with bluetooth and wifi activated. I tried the 312 settings to see how fast wm6 was at the frequency since most of the device with the legit version will run at that speed. Simple curiosity since the setting was there. But still I'm wondering what in that Omap less overclockable that say a Xscale? I remember being able to get 100mhz out of my iPaq hx2210..... And I know that the regular setting is 260 for the Wizard but even at that speed on my particular device coolcamera is sluggish and videos on Coreplayer are like slideshows this is why I choose a higher setting...... But thanks for telling me what was affected by the overspeeding....
clock speed 400mhz
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help
easymob said:
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help
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try upping it to 500mhz that always helps me.
and about the usb fan. you can try putting it in the freezer to get the temp down.
500mhz
hiimcliff said:
try upping it to 500mhz that always helps me.
and about the usb fan. you can try putting it in the freezer to get the temp down.
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hi thanks for the advice i uped it to 500 mhz and its working like a charm
the only trouble now is that i cant hear the phone ringing in the freezer
please help
Well you see the light that comes on in the freezer? Well if you take the buld out and wire the 2 pins directly to a loudspeaker it becomes a bluetooth cellphone ringtone amplifier.
....
easymob said:
help my wizard is smoking i can cook a egg on it i am running the clock speed at 400mhz
i have tried slowing it down but its so slow
is there anybody out there that has got some type of mini usb fan i can attach to it to cool down
please help
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that was good... Acually I never asked for help just information about what was causing the problem other than the overlcocking......
Not that I've been here long...but this is the first time I've actually seem some humor on this forum...I LOL'd.
Ayle said:
HI, I tried to push my wizard to the max speed in battery status:
Everything load faster and it seems that surfing using the wifi is way faster now too... but after one hour my screen started behaving in a weird fashion: the letters on the screen are vibrating
the device is not crashing or anything the screen is just vibrating shortly after I open or close a "window"..... I throttled back to 299 but i can feel that its running at a lower frequency....
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Running your wizard that fast is like putting it on crack or meth. Good luck, hope it doesn't melt.
--M
Jeeeez dont you guys have nothing else to do than poking fun at me?
Ayle said:
Jeeeez dont you guys have nothing else to do than poking fun at me?
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We could beat you... I have to say sincerely thanks for posting and thanks to the funny responses, it has been refreshing.
--M
Only 500???
Come on, someone ought to be brave and push the GHz mark with their Wizard. As a bonus, it may even save on your home heating bill!
Im really sick of the way some people act on this forum
we all know you can put phones in freezers. This forum isnt made for jokes or lies, some people are really trying to get help. What happened if someone really put it in the freezer?? Then what would be so funny?
Newbies: please don't do anything anyone has said here, phones that are overclocked obviously need to be held under running water. Make sure to press all the buttons so the water can get to the problem source.
Honestly, i really cant believe you guys
Delete Me, and grr to the post length rule
shiggins9 said:
Come on, someone ought to be brave and push the GHz mark with their Wizard. As a bonus, it may even save on your home heating bill!
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I think that maybe a car battery might work, run the AC (putting the phone in front of a vent of course), direct wire the phone--you don't need to worry about a fuse--I don't think it will run much more than 3 or 4 seconds--it'll be fast for a little bit.
--M
BBowermaster said:
Delete Me, and grr to the post length rule
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oh come on, i wish everyone could see your original post lol, we all have our moments
LOL, I didn't read your entire post at first, and thought you were serious, then I read the "run it under water" part and was like, "crap, he fooled me."
lol good im glad, i wanted to sound really mean
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I know when some people try to overclock past a certain point it does not let
them, for example it gives them a fuzzy screen or just freezes. Well I came
across an idea which did work on my Wing.
The whole concept is keeping your wing cold, sort of like when you overclock your computers CPU you want to keep it running as cool as possible.
Before starting!
I am not responsible if you damage your device, or break it!!!
Heres what you do to get those high overclocked settings.
First off you want to monitor the temperature of your CPU.
You can do this directly from battery status.
Go to indicators make sure thats checked off, as well as temperature.
This will then display the temps on the today screen.
Normally it displays Celsius, if you press on the Temps it then displays
Fahrenheit.
Now you want to take your phone and put it in the freezer.
Yes I said the freezer lol.
You can wrap it up in a paper towel or just put it in regularly up to you.
Leave it in their for 1 minute and monitor the temperatures.
Make sure to check it constantly.
Now once the temperature hits 0 degrees Celsius/ 32 degrees Fahrenheit
remove it from the freezer and set your clock speed. It should not freeze, or
make a fuzzy screen. Leave it at that clock speed and put it back in the
freezer, monitor it for at least another 5 minutes. After that take out your
device wipe it down and soft reset it.
Once your done the overclock should stay at the set speed.
This worked for me and I hope it does wonders for you.
Thanks for reading!
Possible water damage
Nice thinking, you've just took overclocking to the next level.
But aside from the warning on overclocking > be carefull with putting your herald into the freezer. Because you Herald is not sealed airthight, there will always be a small amount of air inside the apparatus. The moment you put your device in the freezer the air and its natural humidity will freeze. As soon as you take out you device the frozen air/humidity will unfreeze and cause condensation within your device.
This means there is a (small) chance you will get corrosion on vital parts of your device causing it to mall-function.
Because the time is limited the chance is small, but always present. (this might even happen during winters when you change from an outside temperature to a inside temperature or during rain).
Although unlikely to happen often, it happend several time while I worked at a phoneshop.
Good luck!
Um. Wow. Don't Know What To Say. So like what happens when say you're out the house for 10 hours and the device heats up? Are you saying that the cold freeze will trick the device into thinking it's really colder than it actually is? Or is a stay at home and close to the frig trick?
Perhaps not the most relevant comment but does it really make that much of a difference?
I had mine set to 273mhz for a week or so and then turned it off for some reason and then forgot to put it back on; and I must say that I really didn't notice any difference. The was still significant lag between switching portrait-landscape for example.
And I should point out that one of my biggest disappointments with this phone is the speed, or should I say the lack of.. So it feels to me that if there would be a big difference I should have noticed because that is whats bugs me the most with the phone..
Thanks jappo for that heads up.
Now to dkb218 I don't appreciate your sarcasm.
I never stated that it "tricked" your phone into thinking its colder than it is.
The reason I shared this is because I used to never be able to get past
247Mhz on my Wing I tried this out and now I am at 286Mhz stable.
To ultrajakob, overclocking does make a big significance in speed.
Of course you will still see lag from when switching to landscape mode,
but it will not show as much. I have my wing set to 286Mhz and the switch
is almost instant with no lag. Another thing that can affect it is if you
have a lot of today plugins, try cleaning up your today screen a bit.
spjr said:
Thanks jappo for that heads up.
Now to dkb218 I don't appreciate your sarcasm.
I never stated that it "tricked" your phone into thinking its colder than it is.
The reason I shared this is because I used to never be able to get past
247Mhz on my Wing I tried this out and now I am at 286Mhz stable.
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Sarcasm = "Sure and if you put it in hot ice you can overclock to 1298!"
That's sarcasm. My question was valid. How does this make the device think that it's colder than it is? Why would this work? You post seemed rather like backdoor science and I find it hard understanding how it worked. I know that one of the keys to overclocking is keep the device from overheating. What happens when your device is no longer in a cold state? Can you answer that without thinking this is sarcasm?
Once again I don't know if you have trouble reading, or understanding but I never said that this tricked your device into thinking its colder than it really is.
The temps never heat up past 36 degrees Celsius/100 degrees Fahrenheit thats when charging.
To tell you the truth I don't know how this worked but its just one of those things that did.
This is what I think:
Once you set a speed and its stable without freezing/fuzzing up it stays at that.
Even when the device heats up the temperatures does not change much.
::EDIT::
Also when overclocking the temperature stays the same as if it was set at 201mhz,
a change in 85mhz should not overheat the processor.
its a good idea in theory but it is probably bad practice. this extreme change between hot and cold WILL cause condensation to form inside the device. thats why people don't just hook up a refrigeration unit to their PC, they use water cooling (which is a sealed system). not only could the water short the circuitry, but it could put permanent water marks in the lcd. i guess if done properly you minimize effects, but still not a good idea. it could even void the water sticker if you have that on your device, which could keep you from your warranty (if you have one)
I was thinking what if it was to be put inside of a zip lock bag?
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I was thinking what if it was to be put inside of a zip lock bag?
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nope, air is still in a zip lock bag. even a vacuum sealed bag will leave the air inside the device. and, assuming you have a strong enough vacuum, attempting to vacuum all the air out will crush the device. good idea though. i think the best bet would be some sort of way to slowly cool the device and slowly warm it back up, to reduce condensation. its like the parable of the boiling frog. thats how you need to trick it with out damaging it.
I like the way you think.
So what temperature is too high? Or, to be clarify my question, what is a safe operating temperature range. Also spjr, maybe the freezing messed up your temperature sensor. It just doesn't seem logical for your process to work.
Thanks,
Joe
I guess this kind of like in the movie real genius, where Val Kilmer figured out how to make the laser run by cooling it with ice ... the only problem was that it would destroy itself after one use ... I hope that doesn't happen to your phone!
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I would definitely be careful like taspankya said .. you don't want to damage your phone.
spjr said:
Once again I don't know if you have trouble reading, or understanding but I never said that this tricked your device into thinking its colder than it really is.
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I don't appreciated your tone their Mr. Science. You little experiment would suggest that somehow the device is no longer keeping the correct temperture after a slight deep freeze. Something is happening to make the device overclock to speeds that it didn't do prior to the putting it in the freezer. That would suggest that the gizmo that measures temperture is being "tricked" into thinking that it's colder than it is after removing it from the freezer.
Can you understand why I use the word "trick" now? You seem to have an aversion to it for some reason... or maybe you didn't carry the line of reasoning that far.
duprade said:
I guess this kind of like in the movie real genius, where Val Kilmer figured out how to make the laser run by cooling it with ice ... the only problem was that it would destroy itself after one use ... I hope that doesn't happen to your phone!
I would definitely be careful like taspankya said .. you don't want to damage your phone.
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Or the guy who put his device in the mircowave [not sure if that was here or HoFo] after he dropped it in water thinking this was the best way to dry it out.
dkb218 said:
Or the guy who put his device in the mircowave [not sure if that was here or HoFo] after he dropped it in water thinking this was the best way to dry it out.
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thats fing funny. i once stuck my phone in a microwave to blow it up so i could turn it in under warenty for a new model lol only takes like 5 seconds if that
Ok my phone is stable at 299 so I'm gonna try this to get a 312 overclock. I'll let you know my results.
Ok it is successfully clocked to 312 after a soft reset. Now to just see if it holds it. A side not for everyone would be to fully charge your battery before doing this. I started mine with about 40% and when it got done with the soft reset it was at 1%.
*update*
No good, froze up after a 10 minute phone call although it did hold up for the entire call. Too bad.
If you Brick your Device.... Try this
mmhhhhh....Yammi
spjr said:
Also when overclocking the temperature stays the same as if it was set at 201mhz,
a change in 85mhz should not overheat the processor.
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dont want to be harsh but do not ever say something like this again
as your knowlage of cpu's seems to be lacking
a 1 degree change can end a cpus life... its all in the manufacturing of the cpus
thye are made then speed tested and rated/ then set to there prime speed...
these phones have simple cool plates on them... small coper takes heat and removedit.. the phone can overheat quite fast... even at stock speed.. there are a almost infinite amount of ways this can happen... even with the humidity around youe location
go ahead and oc the phone... i run mine at 238 i think cant remember..
but as with all of us who overclock it... we run the risk...
Hello,
I take no credit for this at all. I saw it on the I900 post. and it works on vibrant. It gets rid of the sleep->awake lag.
NOTE: YOU MUST DO THE UNLAGFIX. DO NOT RUN THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760571
Author: RyanZA
Donation Link for him: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donateCC_LG.gif:NonHosted
I wonder if a better place for this would be the Themes and APPS section...
I only say this bc it is an app...
I don't think so - I think the subject matter of this post and APP clearly deal with development as it pertains to the many lag fixes that are out now. Furthermore, any additional developments, questions, concerns, and problems would be much better address here by DEVELOPERS rather than the larger number of laymen who read the Themes and Apps section.
I am running Vibrant6 Eclair on my phone, and have ALWAYS had problems implementing any lag fix. Be it Ryan's one click, or MODACO's playlogos1 script hack. I've never been able to increase by Quadrant score, and have constantly run into "cannot read mounted card", "file already exists", i've even had the lag fix run all the way through, and had 890 quadrant scores.
This APP finally worked for me.
I installed the APK - then I "unrooted my phone" (option in the apk)
Then rebooted, then "re-rooted" my phone (with newest Busybox / SU )
Then rebooted, got into the phone, and ran this "one click app" again.
Chose "ONE CLICK LAG FIX"
Waited about 5-8 minutes, then phone auto rebooted.
I get on, run quadrant - 2125.
However, the phone seems to be running CHOPPIER and more SLUGGISH with regards to live wallpapers and home screen scrolling - whether or not the wallpaper is static or live. I was hoping that the lag fix, with such a high quadrant score, would make my phone UI run smoother (launcher pro) however, it doesn't seem to be the case. I have been using the phone for 3 hours now though, and not ONE single "hanging lag". Used to happen quite frequently - although for only 5-10 seconds and not overly annoying, still annoying to say the least.
Hopefully with the implementation of better roms, we will be able to get rid of this home screen lag issue.
Just wanted to confirm this lag fix works on my phone, running stock kernel, vibrant6 eclair. Just run the app and watch it go.
I can tell you from trying 10+ lag fixes.
This one is by far the BEST. Now I did not unroot. I dont know if that matterrs.
But i have a 2200+ Quad and the sleep->awake lag is GONE. and All the other lag is GONE.
I have no complains. Using a TMO vibrant here.
QUOTE=RyanZA; Ah, that issue! This lag fix will also take a long time to back up. It is not a different lag fix from the others, just a safer and easier to use lag fix. People who can already install the more advanced lag fixes should rather use those! This is aimed more at people who don't want the complications of those methods. = end quote
So people know, this is a simple ext2 lag fix... Most of the fixes in this forum are much more stable if you research... This app is for the lazy/ignorant if you don't know what you are doing or don't want to learn a better way of doing it... This is not a better/different fix... In fact this is a less stable lag fix..
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Yeah I posted this on the market for RyanZA - just search for Galaxy S, Vibrant or LagFix it should pop up. I'm running his 2.3 LagFix which has a few more enhancements over the current Market app.
My more recent Quadrant:
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Stock Kernel, RyanZA's 2.3 lagfix.
QUADRANT MEANS JACK $HIT... why is it constantly referenced as a good indicator?
Maybe everyone should flash cyanogens FAKE rom that had a 9k quadrant score, lol.
s15274n said:
QUADRANT MEANS JACK $HIT... why is it constantly referenced as a good indicator?
Maybe everyone should flash cyanogens FAKE rom that had a 9k quadrant score, lol.
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Ok, give me a benchmark utility that you find as a good indicator, and I will post that instead. Just be sure to get your panties out of a wad when I do - ok?
Its not a bad benchmark app, especially when there are few variables.. But start comparing different phones and the free version is just an average of 4 different benchmarks... Our display is what has us at the top of the list.. Not cpu or memory..
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Letting ya know this works..I first ran the Quadrant and for a 750 then I did not unroot or anything installed the tools and did the oneclick lag fix ran the Quadrant again and got 2042
s15274n said:
QUADRANT MEANS JACK $HIT... why is it constantly referenced as a good indicator?
Maybe everyone should flash cyanogens FAKE rom that had a 9k quadrant score, lol.
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It isn't that bad of an indicator if you didn't purposely rigged up your phone to 'cheat' the system.
Here is a really good read on why I completely disregard Quadrant and the scores our lag fix generate. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ARGUING.
Curious, what are the linpack scores after the lag fix? Stock is low 8's.
s15274n said:
Here is a really good read on why I completely disregard Quadrant and the scores our lag fix generate. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ARGUING.
Curious, what are the linpack scores after the lag fix? Stock is low 8's.
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The problem is that linpack only benchmarks the cpu, while the lag fixes address the i/o issue that plagues the vibrant, so linpack won't be a reliable solution either
s15274n said:
Here is a really good read on why I completely disregard Quadrant and the scores our lag fix generate. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ARGUING.
Curious, what are the linpack scores after the lag fix? Stock is low 8's.
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The thing is thats benchmarking different things... Linpack only benchmarks the ability of the Virtual Memory I think... and the lag fix doesnt change anything but how the data is read/written, but we can tell how much of a difference it makes on the data rw speeds...
now doing a quadrant with a vibrant in one hand and a droid x in the other is too many variables.. bc we can only get the average of the four tests it does.... now if you had the pro version it would be a little different...
I have been running the without a lag fix since last sat... had the lag fix for a while before taking it off... I cannot tell a difference in the two... I think its just a placebo effect... but like its been said before, this phone is fast before any tweaking..
Apologies, I was not implying Linpack is a better BM... just curious if they got the same score. I assume they do then. I just wish people would quit acting like the quadrant score means something with this lag fix, it does not.
I would much rather have stability than a high quadrant.... I show someone a 2000+ and they dont care...
If the do care they pull out their phone and show me FULL FLASH on their JIT compatible 2.2 enable device and that it works with a score less than 1500.. Then the guy with the i*hone starts laughing at me for being a douche...
Does this let me change the font?
I've never had a lag problem with animations off. Only experienced some lag with animations turned "all on" . Try it . I don't think we really need this fix.
Sent using xda app....
You'll be surprised. I saw a huge difference after I applied this fix. What you think you don't need, and the difference you get after you apply this fix is huge.
Before in the android market I would get 'stalls'. Now I can go non-stop only stopping to fetch the next 20 or whatever apps.
What I'm trying to say is unless you try this fix, don't dismiss it. It is a huge boost in performance.
Yes, this fix is a true lag fix. It fixed my sleep-wake lag. it fixed it all.
Anyone running differnt versions I highly reccomend uninstalling it. and using this.
It makes your quad a BIT lower. maybe 10-20 pts. But, its HELLA stable and works like a charm.
Hello there,
I am just curiuos if there's any way to disable VSync in SGX 540 driver? 3D applications are limited to 56FPS, so Samsung Galaxy S can't win some benchmarks, because of this ridiculous restriction. My SGS always scores about 55.7 FPS or very close to 56, but Droid X has 60 or 62 Hz refresh rate and even though it has weaker GPU (SGX 530) it can still beat SGS in some less demanding benchmarks. The SGS screen refresh rate is 56 Hz... I wish we could unleash the real power of SGX 540, which is now *STRONGLY* limited.
Maybe there are cfg files with options:
VSync=0/1
Or:
MaxRefreshRate 56 Hz etc..
Or something like that... Can somebody look at it?
Thanks in advance for answers!
Best regards,
John
While I'm sure if the framerate was unlocked it would beat every other current Android device in GPU benchmarks, in real-world use this wouldn't mean a thing since the screen itself has a refresh rate of 56Hz...so visually it would be impossible to see any difference other than screen tearing.
It's a limit to save battery, i would like to turn it off/on (for benches) but for real life 56+ fps is just waist of powerbecause of the screen that has 56Hz
(but i prefer 200fps against 60fps on my PC in my 60Hz monitor, somehow i DO notice the difference )
jaapschaap said:
It's a limit to save battery, i would like to turn it off/on (for benches) but for real life 56+ fps is just waist of powerbecause of the screen that has 56Hz
(but i prefer 200fps against 60fps on my PC in my 60Hz monitor, somehow i DO notice the difference )
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That's called the placebo effect. It's literally impossible for you to see it, you just 'notice' it because you're aware that the framerate is higher, so your mind convinces you that you can see the difference.
AXIS of Reality said:
That's called the placebo effect. It's literally impossible for you to see it, you just 'notice' it because you're aware that the framerate is higher, so your mind convinces you that you can see the difference.
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Let's try not to prove if human eye can see the difference between 56 or 200 FPS. Let's try to find out if there is a possibility to turn the VSync off to see what SGX 540 is capable of. Because it's an external GPU so it has to have any external panel control or cfg file with some options like NVIDIA and ATI GFX cards have.
Damn I wish I could see 80-100 FPS @ Neocore and GL Benchmark score that kicks ass Droid X score (which is better than SGS, because of damn screen refresh rate)... It's really possible!
About fps perception, that is discussed a lot.... dont bring it here.
The tweak -> would be nice, but just for benchmarks (showing them mine is bigger), or playing with charger connected.
This is mobile device, we got limited power resource.
On pc we got sum competitive games, they provide matchup with players around the world, and it means sth to win/lose, so ppl would do anything to do better.. But in singleplayer...on a 'phone'? No matter to me.
xan said:
About fps perception, that is discussed a lot.... dont bring it here.
The tweak -> would be nice, but just for benchmarks (showing them mine is bigger), or playing with charger connected.
This is mobile device, we got limited power resource.
On pc we got sum competitive games, they provide matchup with players around the world, and it means sth to win/lose, so ppl would do anything to do better.. But in singleplayer...on a 'phone'? No matter to me.
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Mate! It doesn't matter for the power usage if there are 56 FPS or 200 FPS! GPU is doing the same job with the same power usage but is capped by VSync. It's the software (driver level) limitation, not hardware.
Why don't you just find a more graphic-intensive benchmark instead? It's pointless to turn off Vsync even if we could.
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+1 for disable the VSync ....
It`s the reason for the result of GLbenchmark:
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So what will you guy accomplish from getting higher scores in a synthetic benchmark which doesn't actually represent real speed?
I wish people would stop putting such an emphasis on synthetic benchmarks...
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Why don't you just find a more graphic-intensive benchmark instead? It's pointless to turn off Vsync even if we could.
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Testing purposes, to see how fast GPU really is and to kick Droid X ass. ;-) We can't say anything about the real performance of SGX 540... But we can see that every 3D test we run on SGS it gets ~56 FPS...
Mate I can ask why do people overclock their CPUs? Why do people overclock their Galaxy S CPU to 1.2 GHz? It's pointless in some way (battery usage, it's hard to see the difference without benchmark scores etc.). But for power users - people just like me - it's something to test the limits of the hardware.
I am going to check the possibility on the PowerVR forum and keep You updated.
The worst thing is that I can cool my PC hardware using liquid nitrogen but I don't really know mobile software to do the trick.
+1 to try and disable vsync! really would like to know what the gpu is really capable of...
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+1 for disable the VSync ....
It`s the reason for the result of GLbenchmark:
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With tables like this one, for non informed people it may look like Galaxy S is the worst of the current high end devices.
In the /system/build.prop file, there is a line called:
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55
Change it to 60 and see if the framerates go up? Quadrant reports the Galaxy S screen refresh rate is 68Hz.
changed. quadrant gfx test is same 56fps max.
The config file should be somewhere in the OpenGL driver folder I think. I can't check it out because I am at work at the moment...
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changed. quadrant gfx test is same 56fps max.
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I changed it to 68 and although the quadrant test didnt go about 57fps, I got higher scores. JPC default got around 950 or so, with this I got about 1000.
The UI is definitely smoother though.
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I changed it to 68 and although the quadrant test didnt go about 57fps, I got higher scores. JPC default got around 950 or so, with this I got about 1000.
The UI is definitely smoother though.
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Interesting!;-) So we can adjust FPS on the UI right now. Looks like it's possible to make scrolling ultra smooth.
nice, please add all of the findings to post 1 , because we could find it easier later..
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nice, please add all of the findings to post 1 , because we could find it easier later..
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Later. But there are still no idea to walk arount the VSync problem.
I'd like to gauge interest in setting a bounty for reverse engineering the touch screen controller chip sleep mode to reduce the screen off battery drain from 2%/hour to <1% like the LG G2 enjoys.
Correct me if I'm wrong, the stock LG G2 ROM accomplished this by sleeping [important chip that watches the capacitive touch screen input] setting it to interrupt mode or something. We use a different chip, with different I2C or SPI bus commands, and don't know which ones would get similar functionality, if any exists on the Synaptics S3350B and associated hardware.
Me, I'd put in like $5 or 10 if a solution with supporting documentation/explanation was found to implement in all ROMs.
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If we don't have this so called chip how are we supposed to be able to developed something like it? Not to sound negative but I'm not sure I understand your thinking
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Pretty sure it's a limitation on the digitizer.
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If we don't have this so called chip how are we supposed to be able to developed something like it? Not to sound negative but I'm not sure I understand your thinking
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it uses another one. We have to keep it awake to listen to the capacitive touch because we don't know how to send it to interrupt mode. Vs. the LG G2, you write a byte to it and it goes to interrupt mode. In my discussions with some of the DT2W firmware developers, that's the key difference.
If we had the full spec sheet on the chip this would be easy. No one has tracked that down.
Alternatively, someone with a little bit more embedded experience than I (ideally someone that has worked on S2W/DT2W) applies intuition and pokes at registers on the SPI address for this chip to see what happens. That's tough, hence the bounty.
well, flar2 apparently has lowered the drain on d2w on his elementalX kernel, but is still testing it. you may want to check out the thread and leave a question there.
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my battery drains less then 1% an hour as it is, without anything like this..
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my battery drains less then 1% an hour as it is, without anything like this..
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Nah, not with S2W or DT2W enabled.
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Nah, not with S2W or DT2W enabled.
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ah.. i missed that part :angel:
simms22 said:
ah.. i missed that part :angel:
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lol!
simms22 said:
my battery drains less then 1% an hour as it is, without anything like this..
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rom?:cyclops:
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lichtis rastakat. but rom nor kernel dont give you extra battery life. battery life is all dependant on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps installed, and the quality of your phone/data signal.
On cyanogenmod I get less 1% drain per hour, more like 0.3%. I get an average of 1h screen time for every 20% battery lost with wifi on location set to power save, mobile data on H+ always on. From 7 in the morning till 0.30 at night I get to about 35% battery left with is fine and about 4h+ SOT, however I do not use my phone for gaming, mostly texting and whatsapp, 2h of YouTube videos and one hour of Web browsing, and like 40min of voice calls.
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On cyanogenmod I get less 1% drain per hour, more like 0.3%. I get an average of 1h screen time for every 20% battery lost with wifi on location set to power save, mobile data on H+ always on. From 7 in the morning till 0.30 at night I get to about 35% battery left with is fine and about 4h+ SOT, however I do not use my phone for gaming, mostly texting and whatsapp, 2h of YouTube videos and one hour of Web browsing, and like 40min of voice calls.
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Guys this is about double tap to wake/sweep to wake
simms22 said:
kernel dont give you extra battery life.
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yeah that's not true. For one custom kernels have higher levels of compiler optimzation that result in the processor executing fewer commands; to governor use and limiting max screen off frequency to 600mhz, locking cores offline all the time; there are plenty of reasons why custom kernels have better battery life that everyone sees.
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yeah that's not true. For one custom kernels have higher levels of compiler optimzation that result in the processor executing fewer commands; to governor use and limiting max screen off frequency to 600mhz, locking cores offline all the time; there are plenty of reasons why custom kernels have better battery life that everyone sees.
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see thats where you are mistaken. as many people that say that they get great battery life on a specific kernel, there are just as many, if not more, that say the opposite. you can get great battery life on ANY kernel. on every single custom kernel here on xda there will be people that claim that it gives great battery life, and many more that dont claim it. battery life is mostly about your personal use, your setup, and the quality signal you get. everything else makes very little difference. and this is from experience. as a hobby, i test kernels. not just test like most people on xda, but test them thoroughly. i work for trinity kernel, and have for years. i test all the kernels, to see where trinity has to go. i can get wonderful battery life, on any kernel. its all because of my setup and great quality signal reception, not because of the kernels.
now pick a kernel, any kernel, no matter how over developed it is(yes, many kernels are overly developed here and dont actually gain anything considerable), and ill beat it in battery life. what the issue actually is though is that you believe that a magic battery life pill exists, while im more of a realist an know that no such thing exists.
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Stock can achieve that without tweaks
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Stock can achieve that without tweaks
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right, there arent any tweaks needed for that at all. just a proper setup will do
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ah.. i missed that part :angel:
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I was about to chime in with same comment....thanks for being first! . Lol
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it uses another one. We have to keep it awake to listen to the capacitive touch because we don't know how to send it to interrupt mode. Vs. the LG G2, you write a byte to it and it goes to interrupt mode. In my discussions with some of the DT2W firmware developers, that's the key difference.
If we had the full spec sheet on the chip this would be easy. No one has tracked that down.
Alternatively, someone with a little bit more embedded experience than I (ideally someone that has worked on S2W/DT2W) applies intuition and pokes at registers on the SPI address for this chip to see what happens. That's tough, hence the bounty.
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It may be a hardware limitation. The LCD panel and the touch screen share a power source. It's no problem to set IRQ wake for the touchscreen, the problem is the interrupts are not triggered unless the touchscreen is powered on. I've poked around quite a bit trying to figure out a way to reduce the drain, but no luck.
You are correct that the g2 has a special bit that can be set for dt2w, but even if this exists on the n5, it would b be like finding a needle in a haystack without the spec sheet. Besides, I've added doubletap to several devices and it was sufficient to use IRQ wake. No special bit required.
Note the red line going from PMIC_1 to the LCD panel. The Touch panel shares power with the LCD panel, and it's routed through the panel on its way to the touch sensor. The only other connection to Touch is the i2c bus. Without power, it can't sense touches and trigger the interrupt.
The way I got it to detect touches during suspend was to modify the touch panel driver so it doesn't send the command to power off the panel when sweep2wake or doubletap2wake are enabled: https://github.com/flar2/ElementalX-N5/commit/03411f9859369bf83324716730bccb77014b31a7
Since then, I've messed around with the regulators, off cmds and clocks trying to reduce the power consumption, but drain remains at about 2.5% per hour with the wake features enabled.
Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
3230mah Best4Power
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Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
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Looks interesting, I would buy it, but they ship only to usa anyway be careful, some of these chinese (I think so) batteries self-explodes. It's a bit dangerous for your leg (I know it's not so funny when it really explodes)
This totally doesn't belong to " Optimus 4X HD Accessories
Accessories for the LG Optimus 4X HD (cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc)" category.
Hmm. I didn't consider a battery that fits like stock an accessory, and I didn't notice that batteries were listed there. I mean accessories are optional things in my mind. The battery is integral to the phone. Sorry about that.
Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
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I'll report back on the life of it. Also it says 3500mah instead of 3230mah as in the description on eBay. We'll see.
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Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
I'll report back on the life of it. Also it says 3500mah instead of 3230mah as in the description on eBay. We'll see.
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The thing with these Chinese batteries is that they are made out of cheap materials. If they don't blow up, then the materials inside the battery degrade at a much quicker rate than the OEM batteries. Then it will basically be like having the original battery inside the phone again. I had a 3000mah battery from eBay and it doesn't do anything to increase the battery life, also a piece of the bottom fell off so now it doesn't even fit in the phone properly.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
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You made me chuckle
But I got it for the dev community. Either one is a huge upgrade coming from this old horse
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Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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They probably just got the same battery and said it was 3200mah lol
The only one that I use is the MPJ battery. It doesn't offer any more real life usage but it doesn't heat up as much as the original battery and so far its worked reliably.
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Very skeptical....
For what it is worth, here is my opinion (take it or leave it lol)
3500mAh in the same form factor as the original battery? I've not noticed any massive leaps in battery technology of late, and I don't really see how there can be THAT much extra juice in a box the same size especially seeing as they are both LiOn battery packs. Given the "reliability" of Chinese imports I would imagine the quoted capacity is just what they wanted to put on the label to make that particular battery look more appealing than others on the market.
I also have concerns from a safety point of view and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it. Does anybody have any experience of this (Perhaps as a different topic in the appropriate place if one doesn't already exist, to save this thread going off-topic)?
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and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it.
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Indeed it does detect it and stock rom doesn't boot with a non-genuine battery, but this can be easily fixed.
So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
Kernel is Werewolf @ 1.5Ghz max and CFQ io - GPU is max 512Mhz
Not a bad run, I don't think.
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So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
Kernel is Werewolf @ 1.5Ghz max and CFQ io - GPU is max 512Mhz
Not a bad run, I don't think.
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Can you post your onscreen time?
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Can you post your onscreen time?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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Nah just continue your normal usage for a day from 100% and go to the battery screen you posted above and press the screen bar.
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Ah, OK. Will do.
Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Hi, can you share the latest SOT after normal usage? You need to go a step further and click the screen icon and show the next graph, this will show the SOT in hours; mins.
Well the top image shows the screen on time. The whole time the phone was running off the battery the screen was on.
If I think about it I'll get another one actually showing the specs for that specific part, but that won't really prove anything else for me. Just a formality.
I use the phone daily, and the cheapo battery is still holding up fine too.
Here ya go. Should be noted that I could not be called a heavy user as you can see from the specs, but the point for me is that this battery is just as good as the stock one, but it's new. It also did not start dropping off any quicker when it got to that low capacity, so it's a good solid all around battery.
I also don't use adaptive brightness, or run the screen on a bright setting ever, so that helps. And most times my phone is in airplane mode.