Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
3230mah Best4Power
sketchman16 said:
Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
3230mah Best4Power
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Looks interesting, I would buy it, but they ship only to usa anyway be careful, some of these chinese (I think so) batteries self-explodes. It's a bit dangerous for your leg (I know it's not so funny when it really explodes)
This totally doesn't belong to " Optimus 4X HD Accessories
Accessories for the LG Optimus 4X HD (cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc)" category.
Hmm. I didn't consider a battery that fits like stock an accessory, and I didn't notice that batteries were listed there. I mean accessories are optional things in my mind. The battery is integral to the phone. Sorry about that.
Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
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I'll report back on the life of it. Also it says 3500mah instead of 3230mah as in the description on eBay. We'll see.
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Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
I'll report back on the life of it. Also it says 3500mah instead of 3230mah as in the description on eBay. We'll see.
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The thing with these Chinese batteries is that they are made out of cheap materials. If they don't blow up, then the materials inside the battery degrade at a much quicker rate than the OEM batteries. Then it will basically be like having the original battery inside the phone again. I had a 3000mah battery from eBay and it doesn't do anything to increase the battery life, also a piece of the bottom fell off so now it doesn't even fit in the phone properly.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
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You made me chuckle
But I got it for the dev community. Either one is a huge upgrade coming from this old horse
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Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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They probably just got the same battery and said it was 3200mah lol
The only one that I use is the MPJ battery. It doesn't offer any more real life usage but it doesn't heat up as much as the original battery and so far its worked reliably.
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Very skeptical....
For what it is worth, here is my opinion (take it or leave it lol)
3500mAh in the same form factor as the original battery? I've not noticed any massive leaps in battery technology of late, and I don't really see how there can be THAT much extra juice in a box the same size especially seeing as they are both LiOn battery packs. Given the "reliability" of Chinese imports I would imagine the quoted capacity is just what they wanted to put on the label to make that particular battery look more appealing than others on the market.
I also have concerns from a safety point of view and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it. Does anybody have any experience of this (Perhaps as a different topic in the appropriate place if one doesn't already exist, to save this thread going off-topic)?
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and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it.
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Indeed it does detect it and stock rom doesn't boot with a non-genuine battery, but this can be easily fixed.
So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
Kernel is Werewolf @ 1.5Ghz max and CFQ io - GPU is max 512Mhz
Not a bad run, I don't think.
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So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
Kernel is Werewolf @ 1.5Ghz max and CFQ io - GPU is max 512Mhz
Not a bad run, I don't think.
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Can you post your onscreen time?
ex0rt said:
Can you post your onscreen time?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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Nah just continue your normal usage for a day from 100% and go to the battery screen you posted above and press the screen bar.
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Ah, OK. Will do.
Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Hi, can you share the latest SOT after normal usage? You need to go a step further and click the screen icon and show the next graph, this will show the SOT in hours; mins.
Well the top image shows the screen on time. The whole time the phone was running off the battery the screen was on.
If I think about it I'll get another one actually showing the specs for that specific part, but that won't really prove anything else for me. Just a formality.
I use the phone daily, and the cheapo battery is still holding up fine too.
Here ya go. Should be noted that I could not be called a heavy user as you can see from the specs, but the point for me is that this battery is just as good as the stock one, but it's new. It also did not start dropping off any quicker when it got to that low capacity, so it's a good solid all around battery.
I also don't use adaptive brightness, or run the screen on a bright setting ever, so that helps. And most times my phone is in airplane mode.
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Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
vuvan said:
Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
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I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
ChodTheWacko said:
I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
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That is too bad, I am looking forward to the phone but was really looking forward to a good day of heavy use in...
Well, I'm getting a good days use from mine with battery still left at the end of the day. And it's pretty heavy use at the moment too.
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Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
I can't wait until ICS & devs start making ROMs & kernel for the Note. I think then, we will see the Note truly shine.
bbdj69 said:
Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
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What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
For instance:
I have used a variety of phones over the last 6 months (BB Torch 9800, Torch 9810, BB Bold 9700, Bold 9900, Galaxy 7" Tab P1000, HTC WP7 Mozart) and none of these devices can deal with my pattern of usage every day without at LEAST 2 full depletions and recharges of the battery.
I'm looking to the Note to be the first phone that can last a day, or at LEAST a day with only one recharge.
Engadget reckoned they got 9 hours of video playback on one charge. I do hope that this is indicative of the notes performance...
Niuseek said:
What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
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I am a heavy user. The only battery test I want is if the batter has juice left in it when you are ready to go to bed. I have a 4G Infuse, the POS would die in 6 hours. So lame.
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Your post doesn't tell how the battery life is good. The part that consume the most of the juice is the display and I can see from your post that the screen of your Note was awake just for a little time...
So, trying a browsing and video experience would give us a better idea
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I can tell you right now just by looking at the screenshot you have something keeping your phone awake. No way in the world is Android OS supposed to be that high. Figure out what it is and you'll definitely see better battery life. 90% positive it's an app you installed.
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That's a known ROM/kernel bug in Gingerbread, with AOS taking up so much time. It will be fixed in custom ROMs - though who knows if Samsung will fix theirs ??
Battery tip, if you have NO SIM card in, "cell standby" will tear through your battery in no time. Put it in airplane mode, then enable wifi FTW.
I'm having the same problem. Really frustrating. Needing a recharge every 12 hours or so. And I'm not a heavy user :-/
Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
vuvan said:
Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
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Animated wallpapers are battery death unless they are pseudo animations like that melting droid wallpaper which is effectively a giant battery meter. It's like playing a movie constantly.
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
Gede said:
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
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No push email!?
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No push email!?
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Still push email. But just pushing it every 15 minutes only..... (because of Juice Defender)
I don't mind. Life is fast enough as it is, they can miss me for 15 minutes
You may want to see this:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-review-04193076/
Use find on the web page tool to skip to appropriate section: "Phone and Battery"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3X-New-1500...577377?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43b079be21
Ordered it today. Posted the link so you guys can have a look and see if you want a pair as well. My friend bought a pair of 1500mAh ones and is having some pretty awesome results so I had to order one myself too. Not sure if these are the same ones. Must be since I can't find any other 1500mAh for the Ace.
Posted the link so you guys can give it a shot too. I'll be reviewing as well as the guys on other threads and batteries to let you all know their performance as soon as I get them.
EDIT: I just got them. Using one and just came with 50% charge. Here are some pictures.
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Funny fact; the battery sticker is on the opposite side of the battery. So when you put it on the phone, you get the back side xD
My Review
This battery's a winner. Lasts a little more than stock and holds charge like a champ. Something I just noticed though, unlike stock, it gives you the 100% performance. Meaning, when it's discharged it will literally be completely discharged. Your phone won't even boot. Takes longer to charge (logically) and a little longer to discharge.
I won't bother posting screen shots or anything because everyone's battery varies. Everyone uses their phone in a different way so it won't be the same for anyone.
Either way, this battery's awesome. I highly recommend it.
EDIT: Here's an extra, the battery meter is completely accurate. Still no 1% drops or increments, but the drops happen when they're supposed to and give you literally the battery left.
SuperAce609 said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3X-New-1500...577377?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43b079be21
Ordered it today. Posted the link so you guys can have a look and see if you want a pair as well. My friend bought a pair of 1500mAh ones and is having some pretty awesome results so I had to order one myself too. Not sure if these are the same ones. Must be since I can't find any other 1500mAh for the Ace.
Posted the link so you guys can give it a shot too. I'll be reviewing as well as the guys on other threads and batteries to let you all know their performance as soon as I get them.
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They dont deliver in my town
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what about the 2000mAh ones?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d028ce9ee
Too good to be true?
paradoxiumwind said:
what about the 2000mAh ones?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d028ce9ee
Too good to be true?
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Those are fake. Read other threads.
SuperAce609 said:
Those are fake. Read other threads.
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"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.
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"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.
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use the search bar , thats whats for.There are plenty of battery threads
paradoxiumwind said:
"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.
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Waitwaitwaitwait. HOLD UP. I gotta link you too? Wtf?
I'm reserving my comments for the sake of the thread.
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Waitwaitwaitwait. HOLD UP. I gotta link you too? Wtf?
I'm reserving my comments for the sake of the thread.
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Searching these forums is probably the worst thing anyone can do, it is absolutely packed with newbies like myself except they seem incapable of coherent thought processes and typing skills, and reading the forums in general is a headache in itself because of this, a little common courtesy with a link to a specific thread in mind wouldn't have been too much to ask, but whatever, I don't care.
I sprung for one of these 1500mAh batteries last night on ebay, cheap, but i've written down how much power I can get from my current 1350mAh 3-day old battery and plan to compare with the 1500mAh one when it arrives so i'll update the thread with the info so anyone considering knows it's worth it or not.
i think it's kinda expensive for such battery?
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i forgot to see if that's 3X battery.. soryy
paradoxiumwind said:
Searching these forums is probably the worst thing anyone can do, it is absolutely packed with newbies like myself except they seem incapable of coherent thought processes and typing skills, and reading the forums in general is a headache in itself because of this, a little common courtesy with a link to a specific thread in mind wouldn't have been too much to ask, but whatever, I don't care.
I sprung for one of these 1500mAh batteries last night on ebay, cheap, but i've written down how much power I can get from my current 1350mAh 3-day old battery and plan to compare with the 1500mAh one when it arrives so i'll update the thread with the info so anyone considering knows it's worth it or not.
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So then there'll be two reviews going on in this thread? Use that same post. Too bad you couldn't post second though. Could've been a double review one after the other. That would've been sweeetttt...
kevintangi said:
i think it's kinda expensive for such battery?
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i forgot to see if that's 3X battery.. soryy
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Lol yeah. AND a charger. Pretty handy.
My 1500mAh battery came today, I only got the 1x but the sticker looks identical to the one in the OPs eBay link, it's charging now and then I will check the values and give an update.
This is the exact one I bought (eBay UK): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221074982744
Edit- Results:
Fully Charged on official Samsung 3-day old 1350mAh battery
Extreme Profile: 43hr 25min
Balanced Profile: 40hr 49min
Normal Profile: 34hr 5min
Fully Charged on 1500mAh replacemenet battery
Extreme Profile: 45hr 14min - 1hr 49min difference
Balanced Profile: 44hr 19min - 3hr 30min difference
Normal Profile: 35hr 30min - 1hr 25min difference
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"Profile" refers to the Dolphin Browser HD addon "Dolphin Battery Saver" (Not very customizable but I like the browser and the addon is clean and simple)
Is there a more accurate battery indicator I can use as a benchmark tester anywhere? Either way it seems it gives a little bit more life, worth it for £4? Depends on how long it lasts before it starts losing the charge faster or whatever.. do Li-Ion batteries do that? Any battery experts care to comment, is this an acceptable battery life increase? It is only 1350mAh to 1500mAh so I wasn't expecting like 12 hours extra or anything.
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My 1500mAh battery came today, I only got the 1x but the sticker looks identical to the one in the OPs eBay link, it's charging now and then I will check the values and give an update.
This is the exact one I bought (eBay UK): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221074982744
Edit- Results:
Fully Charged on official Samsung 3-day old 1350mAh battery
Extreme Profile: 43hr 25min
Balanced Profile: 40hr 49min
Normal Profile: 34hr 5min
Fully Charged on 1500mAh replacemenet battery
Extreme Profile: 45hr 14min - 1hr 49min difference
Balanced Profile: 44hr 19min - 3hr 30min difference
Normal Profile: 35hr 30min - 1hr 25min difference
Note:
"Profile" refers to the Dolphin Browser HD addon "Dolphin Battery Saver" (Not very customizable but I like the browser and the addon is clean and simple)
Is there a more accurate battery indicator I can use as a benchmark tester anywhere? Either way it seems it gives a little bit more life, worth it for £4? Depends on how long it lasts before it starts losing the charge faster or whatever.. do Li-Ion batteries do that? Any battery experts care to comment, is this an acceptable battery life increase? It is only 1350mAh to 1500mAh so I wasn't expecting like 12 hours extra or anything.
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Yeah, you're only supposed to get a little boost. It's only 150mAh more than the original. But the battery life completely depends on the usage of the phone.
What I do is just use the phone normally and keep checking the Battery Usage graph in the android settings. I don't use any other 3rd party apps.
And yeah, you're supposed to completely drain it before you charge it. Then when you do charge it, charge it to 100% nonstop.
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Yeah, you're only supposed to get a little boost. It's only 150mAh more than the original. But the battery life completely depends on the usage of the phone.
What I do is just use the phone normally and keep checking the Battery Usage graph in the android settings. I don't use any other 3rd party apps.
And yeah, you're supposed to completely drain it before you charge it. Then when you do charge it, charge it to 100% nonstop.
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According to this article on ArsTechnica (which as far as I know is pretty reputable) it says you shouldn't let it drop below about 20% before fully charging it again, it's a pretty interesting read, take a look:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/02/ask-ars-what-is-the-best-way-to-use-an-li-ion-battery/
Another page suggests that charging a Li-Ion battery should be done with the device turned off, as the device can confuse the battery.
A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
I've also purchased a 1500 mAh battery, but it isn't the one you're reviewing here. If somebody's interested I could open a new thread.
im looking for more battery life.
im considering these two. what you think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1500mah...ccessories&hash=item1c24dd5854#ht_3362wt_1270
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-2450mA...087998?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc8cfa07e
hshaikh said:
im looking for more battery life.
im considering these two. what you think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1500mah...ccessories&hash=item1c24dd5854#ht_3362wt_1270
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-2450mA...087998?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc8cfa07e
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I'd go for the 1500 mAh one. The golden one has been proved to be a hoax.
Have the same ones, awesome.
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paradoxiumwind said:
According to this article on ArsTechnica (which as far as I know is pretty reputable) it says you shouldn't let it drop below about 20% before fully charging it again, it's a pretty interesting read, take a look:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/02/ask-ars-what-is-the-best-way-to-use-an-li-ion-battery/
Another page suggests that charging a Li-Ion battery should be done with the device turned off, as the device can confuse the battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
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Well my friend, on the Ace, not dropping below 20% while trying to make a charge last a whole day seems almost practically impossible.
I've read that article before. Never really followed what it said and look at what happened to my battery. Dies after 40 mins with 3G on after a full (100%) charge xD
The charger appears to be designed to have a adapter to other plugs, is this the case?
I need the EU plug, for 220 V, can I buy that one and use it?
Yeah yeah I know its got Stamina Mode BUT! is anyone a little worried like me that the battery is 2330 and with a 5 inch screen and all those pixels its going to drain pretty fast. Todays phones with 720 screens and less pixels aren't the best. I'm still getting the phone but anyone else think we aren't in for glorious battery life here. (Stamina Mode may be the perfect fix for this though)
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
djq said:
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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Yeah, thats the part of the reviews I will be taken proper interest in.
Coming from the One X, I'm not too worried about battery life as I'd be fairly confident it could last a bit longer than that phone. I charge my phone every night so once I get a day out of it thats fine.
I would like to see a review on the battery life though.
2330 AMH is really good though
I have 3100mah on my Galaxy Note 2 right now. Pretty huge battery - was supposed to last 3 days - it barely lasts 48 hours of "normal use". Not worried about Xperia Z, if 3100mah can't supply more than 5-6 screen time or 48+ hours - no battery will. If it lasts 2 full days, i'll be more than happy.
From what I've heard it's actually surprisingly good. Keep your brightness in check and you'll be fine. Both the Snapdragon S4 Pro and the MDM9215 are pretty efficient chips. The S4 Pro has (according to Qualcomm at least) a pretty high performance per watt so should do pretty well with relatively little power use.
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
Early tests not so encouraging. Worse than the nexus 4. Of course screen brightness etc aren't known at this point.
Let's hope it gets better with more charge cycles etc.
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Doesn't look too good. 9 hours with 3h screen time... but the screen drained 42% of the battery so i guess it must have been under some heavy stress. Hope to see some more tests/reviews asap.
yeah, all we can do is wait for the NDA to break. I really hate waiting.
hope the battery's up to scratch because i haven't been this excited for a phone in a long time.
When do nda normally break? Seeing as it should release in some territories in a few weeks, I'm surprised there haven't been more reviews. Hoping to see some from the big sites any day now, especially the verge, gsmarena etc, as I'm really interested in battery life. Would need about 3.5 hours screen on time on mid brightness on 4g over say 15 hours off charger to work for me. Guess I could make do with 3 hours, but whichever of the new 5 inch phones does this will get my money. Come on Sony, don't disappoint me, cause I love the look of this phone!
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A) reviews take time
B) It seems as though the CES units were not final... so the final product may not have been available until very recently.
Sony stores/reps are starting to get their demo units (which should be final hardware) so hopefully more reviews soon.
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
mattman83 said:
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
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And by looking at some threads here - it's perfectly understandable. People freaking out about things that are not even present in the real device like older software, lower benchmarks due to debugging firmware etc. But i'm really dying to see the battery life... if it's non-removable and it won't last 48+ hours of normal use, than it's not good. If it won't last 24+ hours of normal use than i guess i might reconsider ( and by normal use i mean texting, calling, maybe some music - not playing with it every second, that's reserved for few first days )
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Juice defender kills apps but issue with this is apps relaunch itself and then juice defender kicks in and kills it again and ends up in an infinite loop of killing and reviving of processes. The difference with stamina mode is that it was officially made by manufacturer within the ROM. So when you set it to get killed when screen is off there's something within the framework of the android core which they programmed to really halt the operation of the app/process and not just killing it. So in the end it is totally stopped
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That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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The thing with the S4 pro is that it can go both ways as far as efficient hardware is concerned. I think it has something to do with thermal insulation.
The nexus 4 and it's 2100ish mAh has notoriously poor battery times - in my testing, tapping out at just under 3 hours screen usage in around 8-10 hours of total use (everything stock + 4.2.1).
My padfone 2, on the other hand, with the same battery/screen size is a battery champ - regularly get 5 to 5.5 hours screen usage over a period of 18-20 hours. It beats out all my previous phones for battery life (minus the note 2), including the GS3 which had good battery life itself.
And no, i don't belive in disabling google now and push notifications. Without them the nexus 4 does better but the padfone 2 and its s4 pro do brilliant with them on.
redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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Why would you guys use JD for killing apps? That doesn't make sense. Its main use is to manage radios etc. depending on battery & screen status. Anyway didn't do much for me so switched from that to Tasker.
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011.php
This includes battery results , display labor results , camera results
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Poor battery
Poor Contrast
They confirm that g2 is using an other panel
Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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There are lot of variables. What goes on in the background, how much resources the dial app takes and what services it starts, how hot the phone gets during call, powering the microphones and speaker - and then there's reception. I trust GSM Arena does the test at the same place, so if the Nexus 5's antenna isn't as good at getting signal as the G2 for whatever reason (different module, different construction, different placement etc.), results can be vastly different.
"Those who favor more natural reproduction will certainly be happy with the Nexus 5 screen, though."
I'm all for natural reproduction....
did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
Tung_meister said:
Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Who said 4.4 was supposed to be more efficient? What I saw for the past few weeks were random forum members making assumptions. No official statement at all. In addition to that, people making assumptions that skins use more battery. I think a lot of us knew deep down inside this was going to happen, more or less.
Also note, the G2 has the GRAM feature that they advertised as a battery saver.
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did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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I'm with you. Screen battery tests should be calibrated by brightness, not by percentage. Otherwise, dim screens win by default, which is absurd. Nexus 5 display is very bright. VERY. I had to install Lux to just dim it a bit as auto-brightness was too aggressive out of the box.
Having said that, for me battery life is pretty good. I am coming from Galaxy Nexus and N5 gives me close to double battery life in my everyday usage. I'm sure we will see battery saving ROMs pretty soon too, so folks who need to bleed their phones to the last drop will have the opportunity.
I find battery reviews massively subjective - I just want a phone that won't die if I don't charge it after getting out of bed @ 7am, before 10pm.. after a few calls and 2 hrs of screen on, fbook, texts, etc. My N5 has been on battery almost 13hrs now and is at 66%... my old SGII would be at 10%, so personally this is a massive improvement.
If you always want the latest and greatest all around, Nexus phones typically aren't going to fill the boot. If you upgrade your phone every year and a bit or less and are logical enough to factor in price, they will.
Interesting that the G2 is over 4x brighter at 100% brightness than at 50% brightness according to GSMArena. That probably helped its battery life score with them a fair bit.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
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I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
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Its funny because I came from the moto x and I couldn't disagree more... It just goes to show that everyone is different and likes different things I guess haha
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
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Iphone 5s screen is also half as bright as nexus 5 at 50% brightness.
For most people this kind of batt life is fine (Stock)
Hi,
After reading in another thread that there are different Hardware Revs i took another look at my Box and found out that's true.
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So how many different version are there? Someone said he had Rev 3.
How is the distribution? Timebased? and How many of each...
And most important, what's the difference.... anyone knows anything?
So, as you can see in the Picture above, i got the H8216 in Rev 2.
What do you have?
I don't know about differences but I have revision 3.
H8266 revision 3 here.
I'm not sure if I am not noticing it, but I do not experience touch screen sensitivity issues when I play games or maybe they are minimal. Granted I play rhythm games and mobile rpgs, not fps or fighting games so maybe its just me.
H8296 Rev 2
H8266 Rev 3
This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.
Revision 1, and I'm having massive heat issues. Recording videos, especially with SteadyShot, HDR and 4K activated is stopped after 7 to 10 minutes usually, because the phone got too hot. I'd like to know if later revisions fix these issues.
Does Revision 3 fix the hardware issues?
I have Deep Green H8266 (Rev 3).
I don't experience too much heating issue and don't experience touch sensitivity issue either. Battery life is great and can be really amazing, a lot of time (reaching the point where I'm struggling to drain the phone's battery at night, just because I want to charge the phone at 15%). It is also lightning fast, superb gaming performance, and has great multitasking performance, too.
H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged ?
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Interesting. I'm not getting anywhere close to those battery times either. Can you run the GeekBench battery test? I'm at 4 hours and something...
I will ask the support to repair my phone.
Switch it to the latest hardware revision.
And see if this fix my touch screen issue.
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H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.
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Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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I've been on xda long enough and I'm not the type to post nonsense ?
This pic below is not from my phone, it's from the xz2 thread on Esato, so you can see that I'm not the only one either...I didn't take a screen shot of mine when I crossed 10+ hours (I will next time)... I said that passed it a few times, mostly range in the ≈9+ hours...
I don't game, few accounts with push notifications and an email client with 3 imap notifications (so those run in the background constantly)
This one below is from my phone...I'm at 1.5 hours of SOT with a 12% down from full charge...you can extrapolate the end results ?
System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...
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System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...
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Indeed, I've also about 9h SOT
8266 Rev 2
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This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.
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and WHAT exactly do you want to test? We don't know what they changed, might the supplier from glue which holds the Screen on the phone, might be the a different speaker/microphone inside or something else smaller.
Else we wouldn't be a rev4 already. Changing something during production is no small feat...
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Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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Lol.
The Battery inside the XZ2 has:
Min: 3060mAh 11.6Wh
Typ: 3180mAh 12.3Wh
So i've measured the powerdraw for Screen+Phone Idle/flightmode:
Minimum Brightness uses 0.49W
Maximum uses 1.83W
Screen Off uses 0.24W
Doing the Math even at full brightness if you use your phone as E-Book reader you could reach 6h 45min At Minimum even over 25h!
So yes, it is very well possible.
chili_red said:
I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.
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Hm. Before the XZ2 I've had a Xiaomi Mi 6, which impressed me more in terms of battery. Smaller screen, bigger battery (and much slimmer phone).
And IMHO it's not better, perhaps worse than my LG V20. I did take a lot of photos, which does seem to drain the battery badly.
I really wonder what they have done through the revisions. It seems clear to me now that revision 1 had some serious flaws (or maybe my unit is defective), especially in terms of cooling.
Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?
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Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?
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No one except for Sony probably knows. But it is interesting to see, which revisions made it to the market and which didn't. And if people report on issues with their phone, we can at least figure out a bit what was fixed. Also now we know there are 4 revisions so far. Mine is revision 1 and says demo only, not for sale. So maybe it is also possible to find out when these phones were released.