Hi,
After reading in another thread that there are different Hardware Revs i took another look at my Box and found out that's true.
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So how many different version are there? Someone said he had Rev 3.
How is the distribution? Timebased? and How many of each...
And most important, what's the difference.... anyone knows anything?
So, as you can see in the Picture above, i got the H8216 in Rev 2.
What do you have?
I don't know about differences but I have revision 3.
H8266 revision 3 here.
I'm not sure if I am not noticing it, but I do not experience touch screen sensitivity issues when I play games or maybe they are minimal. Granted I play rhythm games and mobile rpgs, not fps or fighting games so maybe its just me.
H8296 Rev 2
H8266 Rev 3
This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.
Revision 1, and I'm having massive heat issues. Recording videos, especially with SteadyShot, HDR and 4K activated is stopped after 7 to 10 minutes usually, because the phone got too hot. I'd like to know if later revisions fix these issues.
Does Revision 3 fix the hardware issues?
I have Deep Green H8266 (Rev 3).
I don't experience too much heating issue and don't experience touch sensitivity issue either. Battery life is great and can be really amazing, a lot of time (reaching the point where I'm struggling to drain the phone's battery at night, just because I want to charge the phone at 15%). It is also lightning fast, superb gaming performance, and has great multitasking performance, too.
H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged ?
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
-DM- said:
H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Interesting. I'm not getting anywhere close to those battery times either. Can you run the GeekBench battery test? I'm at 4 hours and something...
I will ask the support to repair my phone.
Switch it to the latest hardware revision.
And see if this fix my touch screen issue.
-DM- said:
H8266 Rev 4 here, just bought it a couple of weeks ago after frying my Z5p, I had no intention on getting this phone, was going to wait til the end of the year to see what Sony will offer but necessity obliged
Absolutely zero issues, no heat or screen sensitivity as other mentioned, this thing stays cool and is lighting fast, battery life is insane, crossed a few times 10+ hours of SOT...just waiting tight for a drm fix to root and xposed (whenever that is)
The only thing that bugs me is the esthetic of the phone, not a fan of the back side at all (finger print sensor works pretty damn well though, still prefer a side placing)
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Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.
hotcakes_shinku said:
Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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I've been on xda long enough and I'm not the type to post nonsense ?
This pic below is not from my phone, it's from the xz2 thread on Esato, so you can see that I'm not the only one either...I didn't take a screen shot of mine when I crossed 10+ hours (I will next time)... I said that passed it a few times, mostly range in the ≈9+ hours...
I don't game, few accounts with push notifications and an email client with 3 imap notifications (so those run in the background constantly)
This one below is from my phone...I'm at 1.5 hours of SOT with a 12% down from full charge...you can extrapolate the end results ?
System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...
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System optimization is an important factor, not only battery size...they did a great job with the xz2...
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Indeed, I've also about 9h SOT
8266 Rev 2
adwinp said:
This thread is pointless if revisions are not linked with specific comparisons in behaviour.
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and WHAT exactly do you want to test? We don't know what they changed, might the supplier from glue which holds the Screen on the phone, might be the a different speaker/microphone inside or something else smaller.
Else we wouldn't be a rev4 already. Changing something during production is no small feat...
hotcakes_shinku said:
Impossible physically. The battery is not big enough to sustain that long of a SOT no matter how efficient you claim to be. unless sony changed the battery capacity in their latest revision, conning people who got earlier revisions.
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Lol.
The Battery inside the XZ2 has:
Min: 3060mAh 11.6Wh
Typ: 3180mAh 12.3Wh
So i've measured the powerdraw for Screen+Phone Idle/flightmode:
Minimum Brightness uses 0.49W
Maximum uses 1.83W
Screen Off uses 0.24W
Doing the Math even at full brightness if you use your phone as E-Book reader you could reach 6h 45min At Minimum even over 25h!
So yes, it is very well possible.
chili_red said:
I haven't had any of the issues reported, the phone never seems to get hot either but I don't play games very much and for the time that I just got slightly warm. I agree with the battery life, it's really amazing compared to everything else I've ever owned.
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Hm. Before the XZ2 I've had a Xiaomi Mi 6, which impressed me more in terms of battery. Smaller screen, bigger battery (and much slimmer phone).
And IMHO it's not better, perhaps worse than my LG V20. I did take a lot of photos, which does seem to drain the battery badly.
I really wonder what they have done through the revisions. It seems clear to me now that revision 1 had some serious flaws (or maybe my unit is defective), especially in terms of cooling.
Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?
Pandemic said:
Rev 2 i have
Wat is exactly the point of this... More info please and can you explain us what Rev 1, 2 and so on is and what it mean ?
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No one except for Sony probably knows. But it is interesting to see, which revisions made it to the market and which didn't. And if people report on issues with their phone, we can at least figure out a bit what was fixed. Also now we know there are 4 revisions so far. Mine is revision 1 and says demo only, not for sale. So maybe it is also possible to find out when these phones were released.
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Yeah yeah I know its got Stamina Mode BUT! is anyone a little worried like me that the battery is 2330 and with a 5 inch screen and all those pixels its going to drain pretty fast. Todays phones with 720 screens and less pixels aren't the best. I'm still getting the phone but anyone else think we aren't in for glorious battery life here. (Stamina Mode may be the perfect fix for this though)
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
djq said:
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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Yeah, thats the part of the reviews I will be taken proper interest in.
Coming from the One X, I'm not too worried about battery life as I'd be fairly confident it could last a bit longer than that phone. I charge my phone every night so once I get a day out of it thats fine.
I would like to see a review on the battery life though.
2330 AMH is really good though
I have 3100mah on my Galaxy Note 2 right now. Pretty huge battery - was supposed to last 3 days - it barely lasts 48 hours of "normal use". Not worried about Xperia Z, if 3100mah can't supply more than 5-6 screen time or 48+ hours - no battery will. If it lasts 2 full days, i'll be more than happy.
From what I've heard it's actually surprisingly good. Keep your brightness in check and you'll be fine. Both the Snapdragon S4 Pro and the MDM9215 are pretty efficient chips. The S4 Pro has (according to Qualcomm at least) a pretty high performance per watt so should do pretty well with relatively little power use.
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
Early tests not so encouraging. Worse than the nexus 4. Of course screen brightness etc aren't known at this point.
Let's hope it gets better with more charge cycles etc.
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Doesn't look too good. 9 hours with 3h screen time... but the screen drained 42% of the battery so i guess it must have been under some heavy stress. Hope to see some more tests/reviews asap.
yeah, all we can do is wait for the NDA to break. I really hate waiting.
hope the battery's up to scratch because i haven't been this excited for a phone in a long time.
When do nda normally break? Seeing as it should release in some territories in a few weeks, I'm surprised there haven't been more reviews. Hoping to see some from the big sites any day now, especially the verge, gsmarena etc, as I'm really interested in battery life. Would need about 3.5 hours screen on time on mid brightness on 4g over say 15 hours off charger to work for me. Guess I could make do with 3 hours, but whichever of the new 5 inch phones does this will get my money. Come on Sony, don't disappoint me, cause I love the look of this phone!
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A) reviews take time
B) It seems as though the CES units were not final... so the final product may not have been available until very recently.
Sony stores/reps are starting to get their demo units (which should be final hardware) so hopefully more reviews soon.
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
mattman83 said:
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
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And by looking at some threads here - it's perfectly understandable. People freaking out about things that are not even present in the real device like older software, lower benchmarks due to debugging firmware etc. But i'm really dying to see the battery life... if it's non-removable and it won't last 48+ hours of normal use, than it's not good. If it won't last 24+ hours of normal use than i guess i might reconsider ( and by normal use i mean texting, calling, maybe some music - not playing with it every second, that's reserved for few first days )
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
Akiainavas said:
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Juice defender kills apps but issue with this is apps relaunch itself and then juice defender kicks in and kills it again and ends up in an infinite loop of killing and reviving of processes. The difference with stamina mode is that it was officially made by manufacturer within the ROM. So when you set it to get killed when screen is off there's something within the framework of the android core which they programmed to really halt the operation of the app/process and not just killing it. So in the end it is totally stopped
R89SONY said:
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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The thing with the S4 pro is that it can go both ways as far as efficient hardware is concerned. I think it has something to do with thermal insulation.
The nexus 4 and it's 2100ish mAh has notoriously poor battery times - in my testing, tapping out at just under 3 hours screen usage in around 8-10 hours of total use (everything stock + 4.2.1).
My padfone 2, on the other hand, with the same battery/screen size is a battery champ - regularly get 5 to 5.5 hours screen usage over a period of 18-20 hours. It beats out all my previous phones for battery life (minus the note 2), including the GS3 which had good battery life itself.
And no, i don't belive in disabling google now and push notifications. Without them the nexus 4 does better but the padfone 2 and its s4 pro do brilliant with them on.
redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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Why would you guys use JD for killing apps? That doesn't make sense. Its main use is to manage radios etc. depending on battery & screen status. Anyway didn't do much for me so switched from that to Tasker.
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011.php
This includes battery results , display labor results , camera results
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Poor battery
Poor Contrast
They confirm that g2 is using an other panel
Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
muyoso said:
Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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There are lot of variables. What goes on in the background, how much resources the dial app takes and what services it starts, how hot the phone gets during call, powering the microphones and speaker - and then there's reception. I trust GSM Arena does the test at the same place, so if the Nexus 5's antenna isn't as good at getting signal as the G2 for whatever reason (different module, different construction, different placement etc.), results can be vastly different.
"Those who favor more natural reproduction will certainly be happy with the Nexus 5 screen, though."
I'm all for natural reproduction....
did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
Tung_meister said:
Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Who said 4.4 was supposed to be more efficient? What I saw for the past few weeks were random forum members making assumptions. No official statement at all. In addition to that, people making assumptions that skins use more battery. I think a lot of us knew deep down inside this was going to happen, more or less.
Also note, the G2 has the GRAM feature that they advertised as a battery saver.
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did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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I'm with you. Screen battery tests should be calibrated by brightness, not by percentage. Otherwise, dim screens win by default, which is absurd. Nexus 5 display is very bright. VERY. I had to install Lux to just dim it a bit as auto-brightness was too aggressive out of the box.
Having said that, for me battery life is pretty good. I am coming from Galaxy Nexus and N5 gives me close to double battery life in my everyday usage. I'm sure we will see battery saving ROMs pretty soon too, so folks who need to bleed their phones to the last drop will have the opportunity.
I find battery reviews massively subjective - I just want a phone that won't die if I don't charge it after getting out of bed @ 7am, before 10pm.. after a few calls and 2 hrs of screen on, fbook, texts, etc. My N5 has been on battery almost 13hrs now and is at 66%... my old SGII would be at 10%, so personally this is a massive improvement.
If you always want the latest and greatest all around, Nexus phones typically aren't going to fill the boot. If you upgrade your phone every year and a bit or less and are logical enough to factor in price, they will.
Interesting that the G2 is over 4x brighter at 100% brightness than at 50% brightness according to GSMArena. That probably helped its battery life score with them a fair bit.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
_MetalHead_ said:
I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
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Its funny because I came from the moto x and I couldn't disagree more... It just goes to show that everyone is different and likes different things I guess haha
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
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Iphone 5s screen is also half as bright as nexus 5 at 50% brightness.
For most people this kind of batt life is fine (Stock)
Background: Ever since I switched from AT$T to T-Mobile last month, my iPhone 5's battery life has taken a huge nosedive for the worst, to where it can easily lose 1% every 2-3 minutes, Wi-Fi on or off, and even if airplane mode is on but Wi-Fi is on (Apple Store won't replace it since it's 60 days out of warranty, and a new battery honestly probably won't help since the capacity and other diagnostic readings are showing signs of a normal battery). Popping my AT$T SIM back in, I immediately get much better numbers. Either T-Mobile's network sucks the crap out of batteries, or the phone has yet to be optimized for the network. I'm thinking it's the latter, because I've used other T-Mobile phones, such as the LG Optimus L9, and battery life was really good. Since the Nexus 5 is a very affordable off-contract device, I decided to give it a try.
I understand that the battery life is itself questionable for the Nexus 5, but it supposedly gets better as time goes on.
My white 16GB Nexus 5 arrived yesterday (ordered it on the 6th when it said it'll ship between 3-4 weeks). Using a ghetto paper-based mold for my nano-SIM, it worked just fine in the N5's micro-SIM slot.
It took a number of hours to eventually get things the way I like it, but here's my current setup (the icon and folder setups are nearly identical to how I had them on my iPhone 5, and every third-party (App Store) app I had there was also available on Android, or at least a good alternative was available):
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Overall, I'm very happy with Android 4.4 and its general performance on the N5.
So, some complaints.
First, LTE. On my morning commute, I noticed it completely lost a signal (no bars, just an outline) three times in areas where my iPhone 5 would have at least 2 bars (dots) of LTE. I would at least expect it to drop to HSPA+, but it didn't do that... In the building I'm in, I always got at least 3 bars of LTE on my iPhone 5. My Nexus 5 can't seem to hook onto it, even after flicking airplane mode on and off a few times. It's instead connected to HSPA+ (fluctuating between that and 3G when idling, as expected). Yes, HSPA+ works, but I want LTE if I have access to it, which I do. EDIT: Changing the data network from LTE to 2G, then back to LTE brought LTE back. EDIT 2: Well, where I've been at for the past 10 minutes, I get a full signal of LTE. It randomly decided to drop to full HSPA+/3G.
I always also hoping that general compatibility with T-Mobile was better. The raw decibel signal readings do seem to be in my favor, but the LTE problems and prior signal drops are hopefully things that won't happen again.
Next, battery life. Yes, as mentioned, I know that it's supposed to get better. To be honest, my initial battery life numbers don't seem too bad. Here are some of my initial numbers (N5 came out of the box at around 80% battery, used it down to 5% before charging it all night):
At that screen on rate, I'd estimate about 5.75 hours of total screen on usage, and 9 hours of total standby. That's much better than some of my recent iPhone 5 numbers, and I hope that they can increase. Battery life is really the deciding factor if I keep the N5 and sell my iPhone 5 or not.
I've already gone through all of the battery saving tips (turning Wi-Fi auto search off, battery saving location mode, disabling OK Google, etc.). My usage isn't too heavy, but I do leave Wi-fi OFF (yes, off), get hundreds of texts, checking and replying to them, using Twitter (Tweetings), listening to music through headphones (PowerAmp), checking email automatically every 15 minutes via K9, dealing with those from time to time, and opening some pages with Chrome.
Next, the speaker. I was expecting it to be loud, louder than my iPhone 5, but it's noticeably quieter. I guess there's a hardware hack for it, but I'd rather avoid that, should I end up returning the thing. It sounds clear, and seems louder in certain apps than others (even if the volume is up all the way). Not sure if it needs to be broken in first.
I just noticed that music through headphones doesn't get very loud either, even with things turned up to their maximum values in PowerAmp.
I've yet to take a picture with the camera, and I heard it could be better (and probably will with a software update).
Speaking of software updates, I imagine Google could easily improve on almost all of these areas, including battery life?
One of my concerns was whether or not I can deal with the larger phone for one-handed operation. And really, I haven't had any complaints there.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with it. Just anxious to see what my battery life numbers will be as time goes on.
Battery life probably won't get drastically better. You just need to see what kills your battery the most. If there are things on in the background that your not using such as an app that would save battery life. But most likely is just the screen
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If you can live with Google Play Music for listening to your music, it should use less battery then poweramp by using the special kitkat dsp audio engine.
If you don't have stable LTE, it will really suck the life out of your battery. I just run HSPA+ most of the time and my battery life is ridiculous now.
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If you can live with Google Play Music for listening to your music, it should use less battery then poweramp by using the special kitkat dsp audio engine.
If you don't have stable LTE, it will really suck the life out of your battery. I just run HSPA+ most of the time and my battery life is ridiculous now.
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One big thing I really like is when songs crossfade between each other, which the Google Play Music app doesn't do. PowerAmp's equalizer and other audio adjustment settings are things I can't really go without anymore. Battery life when using it seems fine (for now).
LTE where I am is generally pretty stable. I'll do some tests with LTE off since that will probably help a bit (didn't matter on my iPhone 5, since the battery life would decrease at the same rate regardless of which type of data connection I'm on). Think a software or radio update would help?
You are complaining about nearly 6 hours of battery life?!!? If I get a Nexus 5 and get that much screen on just browsing, I'd freaking celebrate!
Let's not forget that you started at 80%!! EIGHTY PERCENT!!
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You are complaining about nearly 6 hours of battery life?!!? If I get a Nexus 5 and get that much screen on just browsing, I'd freaking celebrate!
Let's not forget that you started at 80%!! EIGHTY PERCENT!!
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Well, my iPhone USED to get really good usage numbers under similar usage scenarios.
I've got to admit, I was expecting another "iPhone 5 is way better than Nexus 5" rant...
Kudos to you sir, I thought you made a pretty good review and fair comparison between the two.
I've been having similar issues on T-Mobile as of late, so I understand where you're coming from. The battery and network connectivity issues are most likely on their side.
As for software issues, the sound output being drastically different per app will likely be fixed in an OTA soon. The camera actually exceeded my expectations on a recent family outing to a Texans game last weekend, with HDR+ it takes amazing pictures! The autofocus could be faster, but I'm sure that'll be addressed in an OTA as well.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts bud, it's not often we get unbiased opinions here... It's refreshing to see a review by someone who isn't an iOS fanboy or Nexus apologist.
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Well, my iPhone USED to get really good usage numbers under similar usage scenarios.
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Its not similar conditions with a 4" screen.
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Battery life is incredibly subjective and can vary wildly from user to user. Location, carrier, usage patterns, etc. are different for everyone so it's hard to definitively predict battery life on the N5.
My experience? My first week I was incredibly worried because battery life was significantly worse than my GS3. Granted, I was playing with it a lot and testing out different things, but I was averaging about 3 hours of screen time and scraping about 12 hours of total life. Pretty terrible for what I was used to. I will say that when I was testing out the Moves app, to test the movement tracker, this absolutely slaughtered my battery.
I lived with mediocre battery life for a few days, then when Franco came out with his kernel (I believe I started at r10) I flashed it and then started getting insane battery results. Each kernel update has gotten better (now on r14) and I'm finally happy and able to easily make it through a full day.
For the past week, I usually take my phone off the charger at 7am and it goes back on at 11pm with around 25-35% remaining. During this time my screen on time is between 3-4 hours. So that's 16 hours with a quarter of the battery remaining and a decent amount of screen time on. I'm very happy.
I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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It's also not similar conditions when the iPhone 5 has only a 1,440 mAh battery, that's something like ~63% smaller than the Nexus 5's battery (which many of us already find to be disappointingly small compared to other Android flagships).
I'm a hardcore Android user, always have been since I owned an OG Droid and Nexus One, but I concede that whatever Apple does with iOS and their SoCs to squeeze so much screen on time out of the tiny little batteries in the iPhones is pretty impressive.
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I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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A custom kernel doesn't technically need root, but it does need the bootloader to be unlocked which is what wipes the device.
You can try to backup with an app called "helium" which apparently backs up a fair bit.
I also saw a thread to unlock bootloader without wipe. I didn't read it though. Possibly in themea and apps subforum. Try a search of xda at the root if the n5 forum
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Could you tell us more about your experience on Android vs iOS? I had an iPhone 4S prior to switching to Android, and aside from the consistency of the UI and fluidity, there isn't much else that I miss. Oh, maybe the excellent color accuracy of the iPhones (especially whites, which aren't too blue). The biggest thing that I was glad about dumping was iTunes, followed by iOS restrictions on what you can and can't do.
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I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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Rooting doesn't require a wipe, but unlocking your bootloader does. Step 1 when aquiring phone, unlock bootloader, optionally root if you want, then set up. Bootloader unlock is most important for custom kernel.
Did you try viper4android for general sound enhancement. Don't have mine n5 yet - but on other phones it is amazing.
You can find viper in the play store.
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It's also not similar conditions when the iPhone 5 has only a 1,440 mAh battery, that's something like ~63% smaller than the Nexus 5's battery (which many of us already find to be disappointingly small compared to other Android flagships).
I'm a hardcore Android user, always have been since I owned an OG Droid and Nexus One, but I concede that whatever Apple does with iOS and their SoCs to squeeze so much screen on time out of the tiny little batteries in the iPhones is pretty impressive.
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True. Completely different hardware and os makes any comparison pointless.
I actually think the N5 battery is great. Its bigger than my S3 my 200 mAh but it lasts much longer proportionally.
The best way to make the decision between the 2 is to see which is a better fit for "your" usage and habits, which you enjoy the most and whether the battery is "enough".
For me, an iPhone battery would last days,.but it doesn't suit me.
Best thing is to consider battery last. Let passion make the decision
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I actually think the N5 battery is great. Its bigger than my S3 my 200 mAh but it lasts much longer proportionally.
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I'm actually relieved and excited to hear that. I had an S3 for many months and it was the first smartphone I've ever owned that I felt had really good battery life.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon right now, which is notorious for having insanely abysmal battery life, and it was like a slap in the face compared to my S3, which easily lasted all day.
So I figure just about anything will be better than what I'm on now.
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Could you tell us more about your experience on Android vs iOS? I had an iPhone 4S prior to switching to Android, and aside from the consistency of the UI and fluidity, there isn't much else that I miss. Oh, maybe the excellent color accuracy of the iPhones (especially whites, which aren't too blue). The biggest thing that I was glad about dumping was iTunes, followed by iOS restrictions on what you can and can't do.
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While even Android 4.4 on the Nexus 5 could be smoother in terms of frame rate. I thought I'd get annoyed by it, but it doesn't bother me much. I kinda miss iTunes, keeping syncing things organized within one central program, but I rarely used it.
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I'll have to disagree there. They're both phones that can do similar things, and both have similar hardware features (although they obviously differ). When usage scenarios and network conditions are as close as possible, only then can the battery life really be compared. So, I think that it's appropriate in my particular case.
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I'm actually relieved and excited to hear that. I had an S3 for many months and it was the first smartphone I've ever owned that I felt had really good battery life.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon right now, which is notorious for having insanely abysmal battery life, and it was like a slap in the face compared to my S3, which easily lasted all day.
So I figure just about anything will be better than what I'm on now.
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My comparison is like for like here. My network doesn't yet offer lte and my s3 was not the lte version. Bear in mind my s3 was quad core 1.4Ghz so im not sure how my S3 compared to yours.
But my N5 I am doing 16 hour days (8 hrs low signal area) with 4.5 hrs+ screen on. I could get that on my s3 if I didn't leave the house but a normal day would be 3 hrs on s3.
I am undervolted by 50 and using greenify though
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I'll have to disagree there. They're both phones that can do similar things, and both have similar hardware features (although they obviously differ). When usage scenarios and network conditions are as close as possible, only then can the battery life really be compared. So, I think that it's appropriate in my particular case.
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Fair enough I respect your disagreement. Although for me I disagree that they do similar things too. On the face of it they do, but for the hardcore of us I don't feel that's true. Not to spark an iPhone / android debate here (so this will be my last word on ios) but I see ios more as a "feature phone" than a "smart phone".
If the iPhone does all you need and you can get better battery, its a no brainer. Its just the os work completely different. The n5 is much more powerful and bigger screened and the architecture is incomparable.
On the face of it they do the same "calls, emails, web and some apps" but the comparison stops there I feel. It depends how involved you wish to become.
As I say, go with your heart on which you prefer. Take battery into consideration but don't let it rule the decision. Go for what suits you, not what anyone else says
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So I've convinced myself to wipe & root later, backing up with Helium and the normal Google backup (for system settings and such). That should get me mostly setup the way I had pre-wipe, right? I should have some time this weekend to just start from scratch again, but would definitely like to avoid most of it if possible, which it seems like it is.
Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
3230mah Best4Power
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Supposedly it has stock size but with more capacity. I'm interested because I will NOT use the fatter ones. The 4x is already big for my pockets. I'm not making it fatter to boot. But I'm skeptical too. So anybody use one yet?
Mine will be here shortly, and I'll update this thread if it's really worth buying or not.
But till I have it in hand/phone, I'm still curious what everyone else's experience has been, if any.
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Looks interesting, I would buy it, but they ship only to usa anyway be careful, some of these chinese (I think so) batteries self-explodes. It's a bit dangerous for your leg (I know it's not so funny when it really explodes)
This totally doesn't belong to " Optimus 4X HD Accessories
Accessories for the LG Optimus 4X HD (cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc)" category.
Hmm. I didn't consider a battery that fits like stock an accessory, and I didn't notice that batteries were listed there. I mean accessories are optional things in my mind. The battery is integral to the phone. Sorry about that.
Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
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Got it in. It does fit like stock.
Take a moment and appreciate the Chinese or B4P sense of humor as you notice the model name.
I'll report back on the life of it. Also it says 3500mah instead of 3230mah as in the description on eBay. We'll see.
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The thing with these Chinese batteries is that they are made out of cheap materials. If they don't blow up, then the materials inside the battery degrade at a much quicker rate than the OEM batteries. Then it will basically be like having the original battery inside the phone again. I had a 3000mah battery from eBay and it doesn't do anything to increase the battery life, also a piece of the bottom fell off so now it doesn't even fit in the phone properly.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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G3 > Opo
*Run away faster than light*
Seriously 3200mah into that ? It's a trap !
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You made me chuckle
But I got it for the dev community. Either one is a huge upgrade coming from this old horse
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Well so far it is behaving just like the stock one. Hasn't exploded on me yet. If it does degrade quickly I'll just put the old one back in. And if it explodes on my leg, I'll post pics.
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They probably just got the same battery and said it was 3200mah lol
The only one that I use is the MPJ battery. It doesn't offer any more real life usage but it doesn't heat up as much as the original battery and so far its worked reliably.
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Very skeptical....
For what it is worth, here is my opinion (take it or leave it lol)
3500mAh in the same form factor as the original battery? I've not noticed any massive leaps in battery technology of late, and I don't really see how there can be THAT much extra juice in a box the same size especially seeing as they are both LiOn battery packs. Given the "reliability" of Chinese imports I would imagine the quoted capacity is just what they wanted to put on the label to make that particular battery look more appealing than others on the market.
I also have concerns from a safety point of view and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it. Does anybody have any experience of this (Perhaps as a different topic in the appropriate place if one doesn't already exist, to save this thread going off-topic)?
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and have also heard reports of the phone detecting that a replacement battery is not the manufacturer's original part and refusing to work with it.
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Indeed it does detect it and stock rom doesn't boot with a non-genuine battery, but this can be easily fixed.
So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
Kernel is Werewolf @ 1.5Ghz max and CFQ io - GPU is max 512Mhz
Not a bad run, I don't think.
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So far so good. I'm not sure if it's any better than a stock cap OEM battery, but it works just as well, so it's a viable replacement one. Doesn't get hotter, or do anything the OEM one didn't do.
I played Shuttle for probably 3-4 hours total on max volume the whole time through the 3.5mm jack in my car, used WiFi, took about 15 pics, and used my phone to keep up with my PDF work schedule, so the screen was on quite a bit too.
ROM is SlimKat 8.9.
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Not a bad run, I don't think.
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Can you post your onscreen time?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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If that's what it sounds like (leave the screen on the whole time and see how long the battery lasts) I don't know when I'll have time for that, but I'll try. I assume I'd also need to be doing things with the phone while the screen is on to be practical?
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Nah just continue your normal usage for a day from 100% and go to the battery screen you posted above and press the screen bar.
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Ah, OK. Will do.
Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Here's a moderate useage example. Includes downloading around 400MB via WiFi (not sure why it doesn't show WiFi, but whatever), rebooting into recovery and flashing CM 11, new Gapps, then installing various apps after setting up my Google account at first bootup. Screen on the whole time it shows. Around 40 minutes.
Then after turning everything off for a while.
I'll get a more normal day in with it, and post up the screen on time and battery level when I can.
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Hi, can you share the latest SOT after normal usage? You need to go a step further and click the screen icon and show the next graph, this will show the SOT in hours; mins.
Well the top image shows the screen on time. The whole time the phone was running off the battery the screen was on.
If I think about it I'll get another one actually showing the specs for that specific part, but that won't really prove anything else for me. Just a formality.
I use the phone daily, and the cheapo battery is still holding up fine too.
Here ya go. Should be noted that I could not be called a heavy user as you can see from the specs, but the point for me is that this battery is just as good as the stock one, but it's new. It also did not start dropping off any quicker when it got to that low capacity, so it's a good solid all around battery.
I also don't use adaptive brightness, or run the screen on a bright setting ever, so that helps. And most times my phone is in airplane mode.
I purchased a 4xl and it simply does not give me the battery life I need. I had hoped for at least close to my Oneplus 6 but it goes down Fast, even at idle.
I am returning it. And found a 3XL refurb.
What will I miss, and will the battery life be better?
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I purchased a 4xl and it simply does not give me the battery life I need. I had hoped for at least close to my Oneplus 6 but it goes down Fast, even at idle.
I am returning it. And found a 3XL refurb.
What will I miss, and will the battery life be better?
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You'll miss not having a notch that's for sure. As far as battery life goes, who knows until you try it out
Some of these threads are ridiculous.
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Some of these threads are ridiculous.
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And, please explain what is ridiculous about wanting to know, from ANYONE who knows, of the practical battery life of the 3XL versus 4xl? Anyone with common sense would understand that a person who used a 3XL and then upgraded to a 4xl would have approximately the same usage patterns, and therefore would KNOW the answer.
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And, please explain what is ridiculous about wanting to know, from ANYONE who knows, of the practical battery life of the 3XL versus 4xl? Anyone with common sense would understand that a person who used a 3XL and then upgraded to a 4xl would have approximately the same usage patterns, and therefore would KNOW the answer.
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Cause everyone has different usage, signal strength, apps etc. That's why. Battery life depends on many different factors.
Get a Moto G7 Power if you want crazy battery life
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Cause everyone has different usage, signal strength, apps etc. That's why. Battery life depends on many different factors.
Get a Moto G7 Power if you want crazy battery life
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And so someone who had established usage patterns on a 3XL then moved to a 4xl wouldnt have an extremely similar if not identical average usage pattern? Huh., I think otherwise.
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And so someone who had established usage patterns on a 3XL then moved to a 4xl wouldnt have an extremely similar if not identical average usage pattern? Huh., I think otherwise.
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Okay. So far today I have 6 hours and 7 minutes of SOT with 29% battery left. I'll easily hit 8 hrs. So why aren't you getting the same as me? Is 8 hours good enough for you? If so, keep the P4XL.
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Okay. So far today I have 6 hours and 7 minutes of SOT with 29% battery left. I'll easily hit 8 hrs. So why aren't you getting the same as me? Is 8 hours good enough for you? If so, keep the P4XL.
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WOW...I am not getting anything close to that. 20% drain in 1.5 hrs while idle. Yes, I have options enabled but to me, why have a full featured ph if one can’t use the features. I may try disabling motion. I did turn off most notifications.
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WOW...I am not getting anything close to that. 20% drain in 1.5 hrs while idle. Yes, I have options enabled but to me, why have a full featured ph if one can’t use the features. I may try disabling motion. I did turn off most notifications.
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I disabled AOD cause it's pointless for me and Reach to wake and lift to wake. I use tap to wake only. Everything else is on.
Didn't make 8 hrs cause bed is calling me lol. Night
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I don't understand everyone's issue with batt life. Getting 5 hrs sot with 100% brightness. Its such bs. I almost passed on this phone because of of it. Thank god I bought one.
I have everything turned on including forced 90hz refresh. I easily get 6.5-7.5 sot.
Everyone's usage is different and that's why you're getting roasted for a question nobody can answer.
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I have everything turned on including forced 90hz refresh. I easily get 6.5-7.5 sot.
Everyone's usage is different and that's why you're getting roasted for a question nobody can answer.
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Amen
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I upgraded from the 3XL to the 4XL with virtually no change in how I use it, and from my experience, I get roughly 30%-40% more screen on time with the 4XL than I did with the 3XL.
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I upgraded from the 3XL to the 4XL with virtually no change in how I use it, and from my experience, I get roughly 30%-40% more screen on time with the 4XL than I did with the 3XL.
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Finally! A real answer! Thank you!
I really don’t understand those that simply repeat themselves about usage is different. A FACT is, especially for enthusiasts that upgrade frequently, once we establish ph usage habits they are unlikely to drastically change just because we change phones.
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Finally! A real answer! Thank you!
I really don’t understand those that simply repeat themselves about usage is different. A FACT is, especially for enthusiasts that upgrade frequently, once we establish ph usage habits they are unlikely to drastically change just because we change phones.
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So with that one answer it looks like you'll get worse battery with the 3XL?
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And what if someone posts they had better battery life on the P3XL? Then what?
wolfeyes30 said:
And what if someone posts they had better battery life on the P3XL? Then what?
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Well, Did you?
One of my points pertaining to the non-helpful answers is that anyone that really examines enthusiasts/business owners/other users who upgrade every year, they will find that usage patterns are extremely similar. If a person had a Pixel 3XL last year and purchases a 4 xl this year, there has been plenty of time to look at an average and arrive at a conclusion. But instead of direct answers (only one so far), I get this “every user battery experience is different” without an answer to the original post; this is useless as tits on a boar hog. Everyone should know that all users are different in battery usage - that is a given and should not even need to be said.. But it defies logic to think that usage patterns, in an average, are drastically different from say last year.
I would love to hear from more actual users who have something to contribute..
For me, things are looking up a bit. I did something I never usually do. Instead of turning off the charger when the phone hits 100%, I left it on a Qi charger overnight. Today, I have 3hrs 20 min of screen on time with multiple email and message check-ins. And one 30 min call and another 10 min call. And I was at 49% at 5 PM.. This is MUCH better. I did turn off the AOD as well. But my opinion is I should not have had to turn off anything to still have this much usage with reserve to finish the evening.
This thread is useless as tits on a hog too. Good luck.