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Who else thinks the hero browser is better that the iphones?

i have owned both a g1 and an iphone and i have always thought the iphones browser was superior however since i have used the hero browser i think it beats safari hands down. It renders pages quicker and it formats the text to fit the screen without jumping everywhere, it has FLASH something all mobile browsers have been lacking until now, the scrolling is almost as smooth considering it does it through software and the iphone uses a graphics chip, the double tap to zoom is precise as the iphone's and last but not least you can CHOOSE weather you want to view the mobile site or full site. this is just my opinion i would like to hear from others

JJbdoggg said:
i have owned both a g1 and an iphone and i have always thought the iphones browser was superior however since i have used the hero browser i think it beats safari hands down. It renders pages quicker and it formats the text to fit the screen without jumping everywhere, it has FLASH something all mobile browsers have been lacking until now, the scrolling is almost as smooth considering it does it through software and the iphone uses a graphics chip, the double tap to zoom is precise as the iphone's and last but not least you can CHOOSE weather you want to view the mobile site or full site. this is just my opinion i would like to hear from others
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they are both webkit based and support multitouch
however the hero will come with flash installed, text wrap, and has the ability to download files so id say its better

JJbdoggg said:
i have owned both a g1 and an iphone and i have always thought the iphones browser was superior however since i have used the hero browser i think it beats safari hands down. It renders pages quicker and it formats the text to fit the screen without jumping everywhere, it has FLASH something all mobile browsers have been lacking until now, the scrolling is almost as smooth considering it does it through software and the iphone uses a graphics chip, the double tap to zoom is precise as the iphone's and last but not least you can CHOOSE weather you want to view the mobile site or full site. this is just my opinion i would like to hear from others
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I don't have an iphone so I can't compare, but the htc browser is excellent. It scrolls a bit smoother than even cyanogen's 3.6.5 image. Plus javascript heavy sites run faster than the stock browser.
The only thing I don't like about the hero browser is that it covers the status bar. I understand that its to provide more screen space, but at least give the user the option.

dwang said:
I don't have an iphone so I can't compare, but the htc browser is excellent. It scrolls a bit smoother than even cyanogen's 3.6.5 image. Plus javascript heavy sites run faster than the stock browser.
The only thing I don't like about the hero browser is that it covers the status bar. I understand that its to provide more screen space, but at least give the user the option.
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yeah that really pisses me off too lol

is there an apk to install the hero browser? or is it based on the hero framework? i;m running cyanogens 3.6.5 mod with the androidplus theme

renegadedj said:
is there an apk to install the hero browser? or is it based on the hero framework? i;m running cyanogens 3.6.5 mod with the androidplus theme
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gotta install hero...

...plz delete, i posted in the wrong forum

[Idea] iPhone like scrolling in Android System?

I love my Nexus One.
What i miss is the scrolling from the iPhone OS.
You know, if you are in the settings or browser app and start scrolling until the end, it's like a smooth finish in the iPhone OS.
Anyone knows if that's possible to integrate in the Android System?
I don't have any coding skills, therefore i don't know if it's complicated to implement.
- Darky.

Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I grabbed my popcorn, this is going to be good lol

Brut.all said:
Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.
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Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.
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I've just watched several videos, but seems I didn't run into this feature or I just didn't notice it.
I personally think that contacts-list-like scrolling in Android is just perfect, I can't imagine anything better. I could select an item from list of hundreds of items (music app) in ~5 seconds

I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.

Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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Ahhh, maybe I was thinking about something useful, not just looking, so I might miss it on videos

Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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maybe he mean kinetic scrolling

Froyo already does this.
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The iPhone has very nice scrolling, I think Androids improved in froyo but there is still that resolution/quality change when holding down to scroll of course those who are lucky enough to have never spent much time with an iphone dont really notice this as a shortcoming . But I think op wants the desktops new bounceback feature to be throughout the ui. Personally the issue I described is what I really hope gets smoothed out if anything; I dont have preference for the ops request but maybe it would be cool if implemented...then again maybe I don't actually understand the ops request.

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I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).

Darkyy said:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..

Eclair~ said:
I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..
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Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.

I agree that stock Android needs a design upgrade (prob why 3.0 is slated to have a UI Refresh and they brought over that guy from Palm so obviously they are fully aware of it)
But as for the lil bounce back...to me it doesn't really matter.

I wouldn't bother trying to implement something like this until Google changes some underlying systems. Scrolling on the iPhone is definitely GPU assisted.

Darkyy said:
I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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Yes, i really love this scrolling feature on Iphone too, even though i have everything else about it lol

Brut.all said:
Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.
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Um, excuse me, did I say slap Sense on top of Vanilla and be done with it? I said Vanilla itself needs a UI overhaul - it is plain, colorless, lacks design that would add to its overall "pop". And as the OP stated, it also lacks delicious eye candy such as physics. At least Sense tries to appeal to the user.. its shiny, well put together, and 'aesthetically' pleasing - its smooth and differs from Vanilla in oh so many ways.. it attempts to make users ah and ooh when they see it perform.. and no, I am not running Sense on my Nexus, while I easily have the choice to so, it hasn't yet been graced by Froyo..
Hopefully hiring Palm's UI designer will somehow better Android..

Do you mean overshoot like in the ADW launcher? Where it goes a little past the edge and bounces into place?

Kenetic snap back would be nice. With a touch screen there is no tactile feedback so visual indicators like that are quite helpful. It really feels a lot more natural than an abrubt stop at the bottom of a list. I've noticed that some parts of the system are slowly starting to add effects like that. The new launcher in 2.1 does it, and the 3D gallery does something similar as well.
There are a lot of little things about the iPhone UI that you really don't notice until they are taken away. But I don't agree that great UIs are not Google's thing. Every Google web product is super slick and simple and their chrome browser is as well. I think they are just focusing their efforts on other areas first.

If you read some of apple's patents, the kinetic snap back is patented by them so that's probably why nobody else implements it.

Rotation animation on the Nexus one..

Can anyone make fancy Rotation animation just like in spare parts for android 1.5 possible on the nexus one? because Rotation is just so plane and motionless right now...

johnnie93 said:
Can anyone make fancy Rotation animation just like in spare parts for android 1.5 possible on the nexus one? because Rotation is just so plane and motionless right now...
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WITCH!! Hes trying to convert us to iphones!! Quick silence him!!!
lol jk

Blueman101 said:
WITCH!! Hes trying to convert us to iphones!! Quick silence him!!!
lol jk
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I Would never do such a thing!

johnnie93 said:
I Would never do such a thing!
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well here is how we find out.
Lock him in a hotbox in the middle of the desert with no water and only an iPhone, if he calls for help on the iPhone hes a traitor, if he dies then he was not a traitor.

Blueman101 said:
well here is how we find out.
Lock him in a hotbox in the middle of the desert with no water and only an iPhone, if he calls for help on the iPhone hes a traitor, if he dies then he was not a traitor.
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So any updates on my Rotation request?

This is something I've wanted since I first powered on my Nexus One. There has to be a way to do this; even the Adobe Reader app has a decent rotate animation, why can't Android 2.1/2.2???

negroplasty said:
This is something I've wanted since I first powered on my Nexus One. There has to be a way to do this; even the Adobe Reader app has a decent rotate animation, why can't Android 2.1/2.2???
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Because we are all about performance and not looks.
We're androids - everything about efficiency and speed.
Zero looks. Ya know... like the Borg. Rofl.
AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A BLOODY APPLE!
/calmdown.

chowlala said:
Because we are all about performance and not looks.
We're androids - everything about efficiency and speed.
Zero looks. Ya know... like the Borg. Rofl.
AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A BLOODY APPLE!
/calmdown.
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I couldn't care less about anything Apple. I still think that if our hardware can handle it, which it obviously can, the software should support it.
What's wrong with making things look a little smoother and more polished? As opposed to the snappy orientation change that we are all accustomed to; which, in my opinion, looks like crap and is nowhere near the fluidity I expect from a $500+ phone.

I don't think it would be bad to have a fancy rotation animation. I switched from an iPhone 3Gs a month ago and I love my nexus one, but I rather have fancy animations.
We could have both with the nexus, performance and a fancy GUI.
With a 1Ghz processor I don't think the performance of the Nexus will be worst and also could be an option to turn it off.
Even the iPhone 2G has rotation animation and runs at 412Mhz.
Just my 2 cents.

Yeah I would like a unique rotation as well. At first I didn't like that the nexus rotation was slow but then I realized it gives it a moment in case you're just moving the phone not rotating it. Anyway it seems like theres time enough to have a nifty/smooth rotation without losing speed. Now that you mention it I'm surprised there are no apps addressing it. Mist be a difficult modification

The nexus rotation is soooo snappy. What do you want it to do that it doesn't do stock? Zoom the page out then zoom back in??

I would like Graphical rotation and im not saying i hate android because im the biggest android fan since the G1 and never looked back! and never owned a iphone.

Orangeandblue302 said:
The nexus rotation is soooo snappy. What do you want it to do that it doesn't do stock? Zoom the page out then zoom back in??
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It doesn't look enough like an iPhone in its current implementation.
I prefer it that way.

johnnie93 said:
So any updates on my Rotation request?
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I noticed that the picasa loading icon has colors..maybe can can use that instead of the grey rotation. (morph)
Some themes have changed this too, you could find/use those

britoso said:
I noticed that the picasa loading icon has colors..maybe can can use that instead of the grey rotation. (morph)
Some themes have changed this too, you could find/use those
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What are you talking about picasa has colors? And which morphs are you talking about?

actually this makes a lot of sense, this phone can definitely handle some of the smooth graphic motions that the iphone has probably better than the apple product. I hate how slow the iphone (3G) feels in comparison with my N1 but those animation make up for a more solid looking device.
As a graphic artist I think android has the worse thought out ui ever. You can drag about it as much as you want on how great and snappy it is, but even desktop Linux distros moved on to a better looking interface, simply because it makes it more functional.
I'm not praising the half baked capabilities of the iphone, just its interface which obviously went through a lot of thinking and I don't see why the stock Android shouldn't be on par or better. Google should take some tips from HTC sense UI and Apple.

DBBGBA said:
actually this makes a lot of sense, this phone can definitely handle some of the smooth graphic motions that the iphone has probably better than the apple product. I hate how slow the iphone (3G) feels in comparison with my N1 but those animation make up for a more solid looking device.
As a graphic artist I think android has the worse thought out ui ever. You can drag about it as much as you want on how great and snappy it is, but even desktop Linux distros moved on to a better looking interface, simply because it makes it more functional.
I'm not praising the half baked capabilities of the iphone, just its interface which obviously went through a lot of thinking and I don't see why the stock Android shouldn't be on par or better. Google should take some tips from HTC sense UI and Apple.
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LOL.
Ever used stocked Windows Mobile 6.0? Ouch.

DBBGBA said:
actually this makes a lot of sense, this phone can definitely handle some of the smooth graphic motions that the iphone has probably better than the apple product. I hate how slow the iphone (3G) feels in comparison with my N1 but those animation make up for a more solid looking device.
As a graphic artist I think android has the worse thought out ui ever. You can drag about it as much as you want on how great and snappy it is, but even desktop Linux distros moved on to a better looking interface, simply because it makes it more functional.
I'm not praising the half baked capabilities of the iphone, just its interface which obviously went through a lot of thinking and I don't see why the stock Android shouldn't be on par or better. Google should take some tips from HTC sense UI and Apple.
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Sense UI is probably one of the worst skinnings ever. The stock android UI is easily on par with iphone because it works, smooth and flawless. Skinning the UI is just gonna eat up ram and memory stuff.

erghh..i demand for fancy rotation too~

me too, I want it

Official Android 4.2 discussion thread(yes it's still called Jellybean)

Now we now with the arrival of the Nexus 4 also comes the newest android version, 4.2. Lets take a look at some of the key aspects/improvements google has made.
Here is a list of changes:
Main features:
Sphere camera
Multiple user profiles
Google Now updated
Quick settings
Gesture typing
Wireless TV Integration
Lockscreen widgets
Daydream screensaver
Pinch to zoom in Gmail
Triple tap to zoom the whole homescreen
Speech output
Gesture mode navigation
Credit to Prawesome here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962397
We know the specs of the phone itself but here are some more links with more information regarding Android 4.2:
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_42_is_out_google_keeps_the_jelly_bean_name-news-5016.php
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-bumps-android-to-4-2-keeps-jelly-bean-moniker/
About the improved camera features:http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/android-photo-sphere-panorama-google/?icid=m_eng_latest_art

System/app Dump?
Has anyone a copy of the 4.2 system apps? I would love to install some like the new keyboard, and I'm sure many others would love it too!

Quick Settings = FINALLY.
This is the one thing I could never live without from AOKP. I might actually not even need a custom ROM this time. I really like their implementation of it too.

I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better

man i was looking forward to the "project roadrunner" :/ sounded like an awesome idea/concept. still I'm happy with 4.2
loving the multi user and photo sphere(take that apple!)

Michealtbh said:
I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better
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I wouldn't be able to live my life without Swype. It makes me wonder how I went through life typing one letter at a time But seriously, I really hope it performs better than Swype.
@knolly I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've always wanted that on a phone's stock ROM. After playing around with custom ROMs on my S2, I'm ready to just jump on a Nexus and stay on whatever Google decides to churn out right then and there instead of having to wait for custom ROMs to come just to avoid the poop that Samsung/AT&T likes to put on the builds.

Looks great, it looks like its consolidating jelly bean with all the features a big OS update needs
I wish for something like the leeks said where you could remove the OEM overlay (sense, touchwiz)

Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.

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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.
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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices

any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash

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I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.

bozzykid said:
I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.
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To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.

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To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.
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It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.

ctfrommn said:
It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.
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I've got an overclocked G'nex on JB, 1.35 ghz dual core omap 4410? I would think that should do the trick but no...

You're the first I've ever heard say that about a galaxy nexus.
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It's not to any extent unusable or "slow" but my native browser just rips! Idk maybe its psychological... the biggest place that ive noticed it is not in page renders but in actual usability of the page. What I mean is that they seam to render in about the same time=fast but on chrome I'm unable to selct links and there is usually some delay before I can scroll around or zoom where as on the native browser I can be halfway through a page load and already selcting another link...

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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices
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Yep...Chrome isn't nearly as fast as it was on PC..
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:

I mostly prefer the stock browser myself, still use flash quite a bit (though i guess that it will probably be somewhat if not entirely broken on 4.2/Nexus 4).
But for other tasks i've preferred Chrome, especially with the syncing of pages and the fact it seems to handle pages much better than the stock browser did, especially in regards to forum attachements, download sites, etc.

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any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash
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I am guessing the source will be released the same day as the phone ships. That's how it has worked in the past, isn't it ?
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HTC ONE - Lag/Stutter fix?

Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?

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Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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Yes Android Does have bug and lag but its getting a lot better compare to 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 4.0 4.1 4.2 each update has improved whole OS bit better, but still needs more time to mature but same time İOS or Windows Phone is very limited so i assume more thing to do means more codes and more codes mean more fault. İ have HTC One and İphone 5 but HTC One feels faster than İphone 5 in my eyes but another fact is Android needs more power so maybe next chipsets like S800 or Tegra 4 may make transaction more smoother. Android is not best idea on budget smartphone cos as i said needs more power.
There are a lot of rumours that Android Key Lime Pime will be more smoother and less power hungry need to wait and see but enjoy whole experience of android its free and open its getting better every day
sorry for bad spell etc

As a past user of an iPhone 4s and current user of a HTC one, lag is way more prevalent in the 4s.Examples 1.Open the app store. 2. Switch between apps a couple times. 3. Swipe to the search screen. The one never lags for me. Ever. I'm a pretty intensive user with lots of apps running at once. Not to mention the speed at which the one works compared to the iPhone. It still has awesome animations but does them faster. Seriously you must have some rogue app going crazy in the background or something.
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I have the same feeling.
I've owned over 10 android devices and an iPhone 4 and 5, and when I'm on an iPhone I hate that I'm not able to do anything... and while when I'm on an Android phone I LOATHE the constant stutter/lag/inconcistancy.
You can't have your cake and eat it too... I guess.
EDIT: To answer your quesion: no, you can't.
EDIT2: just thought of WebOS, smooth, whith it's modding repositories *starts wheeping*

chris_abr said:
Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)

godutch said:
You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.

I think the OP is referring to apps that haven't yet been optimized for the 1920x1080 screen of the One and the S4. Animations such as those in Words with Friends look jerky in comparison with the iOS counterpart. It may be something you'll need to learn to live with. With Android phones of all different sizes out there, you're never going to get 100% app compatibility.

jodeltje said:
hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
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Like I said I can' t see any stutter or lag, not in the default apps or sense at least

Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.

Dac0908 said:
Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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like I said you need to give some specific examples of lag or stutter because I can't see it, not in sense nor in the stock apps. I can see lag and stutter for example in chrome (and new opera) but stock (and opera classic) are smooth, app drawer buttery smooth, settings buttery smooth, whatsapp smooth, blinkfeed smooth

Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.

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Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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oh I don' t use any of those apps, mostly the stock ones and google apps and these are all buttery smooth (with the exception of chrome and sometime the play store).
I think these laggy apps all use webkit to draw their UI, webkit will lag the UI when loading, even on a powerful desktop. One of the chrome devs congrateluted opera, when the switched to webkit how fluid they had made opera when presto was still loading, something which they hadn't figured out to do yet

what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly

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what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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I'm currently on stock 4.1.2 from HTC, the European version for the HTC_001. I've also tried the Android Revolution HD 4.2.2, but the problem still persisted. It was better, but still not 'buttery smooth'.
As to when it happens - Sense is largely ok, when swiping through the screens you can't really see any lag. Unless going between the app launcher and the blinkfeed.
But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web browser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
I've tried firefox, chrome, stock browser, and all of them have the same problem.
There are also apps, facebook, even the keyboard lags!
Now, I don't know about you, but I think it's the resolution that causes the problem. I'd rather have lower resolution with say, 300 ppi, which is not really noticeably worse than that of the One, and at the same time have an OS that does not suffer from these problems.
Because in all honesty, the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
I'm still hoping that somebody will come up with something that can fix it.
Because I'm really sensitive about this stuff myself, and love the idea of android at the same time. Not to mention the hardware of ONE.
But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
So I think it'll be back to the iPhone for now. My contract on it ends in a year, so let's hope Google does some magic with Android, and maybe forces manufacturers to release properly optimized software. But I fear that's just wishful thinking.

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...the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
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You said it yourself, that can't be right.
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...But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
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You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
If you're getting stuttering with certain apps, don't use them. Poorly made apps usually have alternatives.
So far, the only big app I'm getting stuttering with is the Chrome/Chrome Beta app. It would be nice if it wasn't there but, thanks to features like data compression saving me roughly 50% on data use, I can look past it. I also get it with the facebook app, but that is such a **** app.
There are probably some other apps I get it with but, to be completely honest, lag and stuttering hasn't been noticeable in my daily use. This phone is fast as hell... Faster even than a 15 year old car. What a deal!
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You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
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haha!
What I was trying to say, that these phones cost extremely high amounts of money, and yet don't work properly.
I mean, having used Lumia 520 a few weeks ago for a few days, I can safely say that I would recommend that over the One, simply on the 'niceness of use'. And that phone costs £100 in the UK.. One costs over £450 at the cheapest.
As to the apps - I get that, but if you read my post, you'd know that I mentioned all of the popular apps, I try to stay away from the lesser known developers, as they tend not to do so much testing on their apps, and thus providing a terrible experience most of the time (not so much on iOS, as Apple does a lot of testing before they put the app up on the market, something that would be nice to have on android too).

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But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web bowser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
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some sites lag in some browsers some sites in all, some sites even lag on my powerful core i5 laptop running windows 8, sometimes it' s bug in the browser, sometimes a bug in the website. I'll bet you you will come across laggy sites on the iphone too. XDA is buttery smooth for me though (at least the forum, which I always watch in compact view and I hated the contextual search so I disabled that in forum preferences)

Honestly I've used android from the start back when the g1 was released. Going from that to the g2 now the HTC one. Even on my g2 on some Roms I barley had lag issues now on the one I don't see any stutter or lag or slow downs.. But I guess that's just me.
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I guess we can both be happy that are devices aren't as bad as the OP
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I don't think it's a problem with my particular device though.
I've watched many reviews online, and the very same things that happened on my device were happening on those being reviewed.
Things like:
When browsing google images, you open one image and then swipe to look at the next one, htc one starts to render an animation and then 1/4th of the way just stutters to the picture. On the iPhone it's just a nice, fluid animation.
Another, the original keyboard is rather bad, you press a key, and the pop up with letter comes on, you depress the key and the preview is still there for at least half a second.
Also, a more general one - when you install something from the play store and try to browse for another app on it at the same time - it stutters beyond belief.
And sense one - where are the animations when closing an app/window? I feel like using windows Vista on a 2005 pc with 1gb ram..
It's very small things, but they do not happen on the iPhone, and I just feel like the experience is more pleasurable and consistent on iOS. Not to mention WP, which is even faster than iOS in my opinion.
The iPhone and WP may not be faster hardware wise, or performance wise even, but the animation, and transitions between doing things are just incredibly badly implemented on Android.
I'd rather see it being done like on the iPhone - when the phone is installing or doing something in the background, that action stops when you try and use the phone. That way, it may perform worse, and install the app slower, but the experience is really good, and no stutter occurs. Whereas android sort of tries to do everything at the same time.
But again, that may be just me being very bothered about things like this, most people don't see it as a problem, but it annoys the hell out of me, hence this thread. I was hoping that there is some tweak for the One that makes the experience more pleasurable whilst maybe decreasing the performance a little.