Hi all.
Is it task 29 the same thing with HardSPL?
If not, then what it is?
When should I run HardSPL. I understand that I do not have to run it everytime I install a new ROM, but do I have to run it after 3-4 ROM installs or just 1 time and it is enough?
Thanks.
Task29 is a totally different thing to HardSPL. You only need to run HardSPL once, then you can flash custom ROMs as well as official ROMs. HardSPL stays on there through all of that.
Task29 is a program that wipes the ROM on your phone. So I would recommend to use it every time before you flash a new ROM (after you've backed up your data etc). It wipes out only the ROM area (not HardSPL, nor the radio), to make sure that when you flash the new ROM it's going on cleanly.
HardSPL only needs to be done once. HardSPL unlocks the SPL, which allows you to load "un-official" ROMs. Without it, you will only be able to flash ROMs from your carrier. After you HardSPL, the SPL will remain unlocked unless you deliberately re-SPL using the instructions on the HardSPL thread (for instance, to return for warranty repair).
As mentioned above, Task29 wipes/formats the memory. Its not absolutely mandatory. But may help prevent some fragments of old ROMs from causing bugs in your newly flashed ROM. It only takes a couple minutes to do, so its well worth it. I do it before every ROM flash.
Thank you very much. You were of great help. Now I think I understand what it`s all about
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I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
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As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.
Hi All,
I have used the search function - but ended up getting confused.
I have a Touch HD that I bought in January of this year (2009) from Mobiles.co.uk (Carphone Warehouse) and is on the O2 network (UK).
I have been using Dutty's ROMs (both 6.1 and 6.5) for months now - and have always used USPL when flashing, using the SD card method.
Over the past 3 days, my HD has been playing up.
When it started, I was using Dutty's R7. The radio was 1.14.something.something. The device was working perfectly, and I was really happy with the ROM and the way the phone was working. I had installed NO other applications with the exception of a different taskbar and obviously SDKCerts.cab
First of all, HTC Sense stopped working - it would cycle between "Loading HTC Sense" and "Tap here to launch HTC Sense"
Then, when rebooting the device, it just hung on the "Smart Mobility" screen. I left it in case it just needed a while to boot, but nothing.
I had no other option than to hard reset.
It worked OK for a few hours, but then HTC Sense started to crash again. So I flashed a new ROM - Lost in Asia or whatever it is called.
Same symptoms.
I flashed Dutty's R7 back and also the new 1.17 radio.
No joy.
The phone also hangs for ages on the Smart Mobility screen - perhaps a full minute where as before, it used to be no more than 15 seconds or so.
The following is displayed on the "Smart Mobility Screen"
1.17.25.09
52.69.25.37H
1.59.Dutty
The bootloader screen (before running USPL) shows the following:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.54.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (LED) V6
So the question I'm asking - is... Is my phone suffering some kind of hardware malfunction, or is this a known and fixable fault that I somehow have caused?
If the phone looks like it is malfunctioning, how would I go about returning it to stock so that the CPWH repair centre do not know it's had an unofficial ROM installed?
I'd like to add that whilst I'm very PC literate, I'm no programmer and a lot of the stuff here is alien to me hence my confusion - I just know how to flash a new ROM etc.
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me - I'd be really thankful to anyone that helps me sort this - be it tell me how to fix the device, or tells me to take it back!
Thanks in advance & Regards,
Chris.
Will D/L and flash Dutty's R0 Holy Grail ROM and see if that makes a difference...
If you've been using uspl than it will still be the stock spl and thus you could try to load the stock rom from htc.com specially designed for the touch hd(blackstone). I've read and heard from a lot of people that after flashing several roms and even hard resetting afterwards, some bits and pieces stay behind and flashing an original stock rom will undo this. I don't think it's a radio issue. And another big thing if you use dutty R7 that's a 1.56+ rom so you should have the right uspl olinex software to load these roms, if you used older software then problems with colouring and other things will appear.
a1gp said:
If you've been using uspl than it will still be the stock spl and thus you could try to load the stock rom from htc.com specially designed for the touch hd(blackstone). I've read and heard from a lot of people that after flashing several roms and even hard resetting afterwards, some bits and pieces stay behind and flashing an original stock rom will undo this. I don't think it's a radio issue. And another big thing if you use dutty R7 that's a 1.56+ rom so you should have the right uspl olinex software to load these roms, if you used older software then problems with colouring and other things will appear.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
So is it perhaps better to revert to the original ROM before flashing a cooked ROM? I always Hard Reset twice after flashing as understand this helps.
OK - so the 1.56+ situation - I was under the impression that using the latest USPL (2.5) when flashing was OK? I have never had the colour problem... but perhaps if I'm flashing wrong then these problems could be to do with this?
Thanks again...
Chris
The Sense Manila has known bug that you need to press home to load it (sometimes).
For you case, I would suggest you to clean up your SD Card.
there may be several file that cause your system to freeze.
So, format your SD, hard reset.. and cross fingers.
Yes, It is better to revert to the original rom once in a while before flashing a new rom, if u used the latest uspl and the colours are ok, then you've done that right and it will probably be bits and pieces of old flashed roms floating around on the device.
Best to revert to stock rom and hard reset twice.
Afterwards flash the rom u want. If everything works again. U could hspl instead of uspl, hspl is more stable if u ask me. And you can go back to stock spl if you have waranty issues. there's a tut on that to in the rom section.
mcdull said:
The Sense Manila has known bug that you need to press home to load it (sometimes).
For you case, I would suggest you to clean up your SD Card.
there may be several file that cause your system to freeze.
So, format your SD, hard reset.. and cross fingers.
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I forgot to mention - that was one of the things I did. Previously, I had loads of email folders from all the ROM installs.
Now I have a folder containing the useful CAB files that I need, and the ROM image file. Thats it.
It's only a 1gb card as my 8gb card gave up the ghost.
Thanks for the suggestion though and my apologies for not mentioning this in the initial post.
From reading the Dummies guide, am I right in thinking that in order to use a 1.55+ ROM (such as Dutty's Holy Grail R0) I only need to run USPL and then flash (as opposed to flash a newer SPL) as my stock SPL is already 1.54?
a1gp said:
Yes, It is better to revert to the original rom once in a while before flashing a new rom, if u used the latest uspl and the colours are ok, then you've done that right and it will probably be bits and pieces of old flashed roms floating around on the device.
Best to revert to stock rom and hard reset twice.
Afterwards flash the rom u want. If everything works again. U could hspl instead of uspl, hspl is more stable if u ask me. And you can go back to stock spl if you have waranty issues. there's a tut on that to in the rom section.
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Thanks for this - I didnt realise the device would retain bits and bobs, and you may well be right in that things are getting corrupted in there!
Which is the best stock ROM to flash - is there a link to one? I looked on the Wiki and there seem to be loads... which will work on a UK T8282?!
Thanks again!
Chris
constablechris said:
I forgot to mention - that was one of the things I did. Previously, I had loads of email folders from all the ROM installs.
Now I have a folder containing the useful CAB files that I need, and the ROM image file. Thats it.
It's only a 1gb card as my 8gb card gave up the ghost.
Thanks for the suggestion though and my apologies for not mentioning this in the initial post.
From reading the Dummies guide, am I right in thinking that in order to use a 1.55+ ROM (such as Dutty's Holy Grail R0) I only need to run USPL and then flash (as opposed to flash a newer SPL) as my stock SPL is already 1.54?
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what do you mean hang for age?
1 minute is nothing if it turns out boot up.
There are chances that the nand flash needs to refresh and wasted some times. But it won't be forever.
constablechris said:
Thanks for this - I didnt realise the device would retain bits and bobs, and you may well be right in that things are getting corrupted in there!
Which is the best stock ROM to flash - is there a link to one? I looked on the Wiki and there seem to be loads... which will work on a UK T8282?!
Thanks again!
Chris
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there's an original rom on htc.com for blackstone just use that one.
hope it will turn out right for you
I thought I'm the only one who had this problem. Last Sunday my blackstone started to freeze on the smart mobility screen too. I flash 3 different roms because I thought its an rom issue with no luck. On Monday it even managed to hardreset itself after I waited for about 15 min in the smart mobility screen.
After that I flashed a stock rom and it seem to be fine by now.
But now I will flash a custom again, the stock one is so 6.1
Hi all i am new to this got my first HTC Touch HD today
looking at the roms theres a few i like just got a few questions.
what is the best to use HSPL or USPL?
will flashing a new rom mess up my sim lock?
When it says donate whast the normal to donate? dont want to give to little
thanks about it
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
HSPL sits in ur rom permanently whereas USPL opens the loop once. That means flashing each time u need to use USPL
U need to read this guide fully to understand and make ur choice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
People donate as low as US$ 5 whereas donating US$ 10 is a good amount to start with. Flash different rom's and make ur choice which author u like more. Then u can donate a higher amount if u like that author's creation. I am a big fan of Energy's pheonix rom.
Regarding SIM lock. Flashing rom doesnt mess with ur SIM lock or unlock feature and if ur sim is locked u can open it with olipro's tool. Try searching it in the forum.
It all depends on u what flashing method u choose, how much u donate and which rom meets ur needs....
Welcome to XDA and have a great time here.
BEWARE: Flashing ur phones makes ur phone look much cooler and sexier and u will madly fall in love with ur Touch HD once u find ur perfect rom
HAVE A GREAT STAY....
Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
thanks again
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one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
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HSPL is one written to the handset. USPL isn't written to the handset, the files are sent to the handset when used and it loads another SPL on top of the existing one which is lost when the handset is rebooted (i.e. when the ROM has been installed).
I personally use USPL so I can keep the stock SPL as installed by HTC. Some prefer the HSPL as they don't have to use USPL everytime they want to flash.
I'd probably start with USPL and if you find you flash more often, change to HSPL. Apparently though, HSPL provides more protection against a bad flash - unsure what it does though as I've never used it
It doesn't matter what SPL you use though, once a ROM is flashed to the phone, it stays there until you flash another.
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also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
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I'm unsure of any way to backup an existing ROM. I'd take a look on HTC's website as they may have an updated stock ROM available for download. I keep that one as my stock ROM to revert to after a couple of custom ROM flashes.
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Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
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Factory SPL is preventing you to flash any ROM made for another region or another language. Sometimes there are specific ROMs, made by HTC for certain providers, and SPL takes care to allow you only to flash an official upgrade for the same provider or the same region.
If you wish to flash a cooked ROM, you need to circumvent this protection in the SPL.
USPL makes a loophole in your existing SPL and it will allow flashing (now I see jonifen has explained it better). However, that loophole will disappear after the hard reset. Whenever you decide to flash another ROM, yo'll have to repeat USPL. The advantage is that you keep your official SPL.
HSPL is completely replacing your SPL with a new one, and the new one is slightly changed by OliNex: it always let you flash any ROM you want.
Hard reset will not affect it, as hard resets do not replace or wipe the ROM, SPL or the radio, they only wipe all your data and all 3rd party applications installed by you.
Thanks for all the info i am now flashing i have gone for HSPL as my phone is out of warranty + its lots easier + more stable from what i have read on here.
Thanks again for all your help
Jonathan
Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....
First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.
1. I installed HardSPL
2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM
3. I did not installed Radio.
1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio? - the phone works just fine.
Second question: Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?
Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.
rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL
You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.
Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.
Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.
Once you have Hard spl it is done.
You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once
No and No.
Thank you guys.
The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.
A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.
As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).
hihi, some question about Hard spl
Assuming that I'm already flash Hard spl and a cook ROM installed,
1. if i wanna get back to ROM and data backup-ed data by sprint mobile backup, what are that step that i should follow? Do i need to flash original HTC ROM and radio, re-flash HTC spl, then restore using sprint mobile backup?
2. Can original HTC ROM operate on Hard spl ?( on some proprietary phone using different spl with original ROM will turn the phone into brick, just asking to confirm )
3. If for warranty reason, i reflash HTC spl, the next time i wanna install a cook rom, is there a need to flash Hard spl again ?
About windows and ROM
Which version of winMo offer better memory management? 6.5.x, x mean 1/3/5 ? The current 6.5 need to be restart every 1/2 days.
Thanks for looking through my question
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hihi, some question about Hard spl
Assuming that I'm already flash Hard spl and a cook ROM installed,
1. if i wanna get back to ROM and data backup-ed data by sprint mobile backup, what are that step that i should follow? Do i need to flash original HTC ROM and radio, re-flash HTC spl, then restore using sprint mobile backup?
-If you've backed up your data from a specific stock ROM, only restore your system data to the same ROM. PIM data can be restored to any ROM.
-Stock ROM will automaitcally reflash your radio as well.
-There is no need to flash back to SSPL unless you are returning for warranty.
-If its for a warranty return, you flash back to stock ROM, flash SSPL, then restore your data.
2. Can original HTC ROM operate on Hard spl ?( on some proprietary phone using different spl with original ROM will turn the phone into brick, just asking to confirm )
-Stock ROMs can operate on HSPL, however if it is an older ROM, you want to downgrade your HSPL from 2.51 to 1.83.
3. If for warranty reason, i reflash HTC spl, the next time i wanna install a cook rom, is there a need to flash Hard spl again ?
-If you flash SSPL, you would have flash HSPL again to flash a cooked ROM.
About windows and ROM
Which version of winMo offer better memory management? 6.5.x, x mean 1/3/5 ? The current 6.5 need to be restart every 1/2 days.
-Most cooked ROMs are optimized for best memory management regardless of the version. You can also get a memory management app, such as ClearTemp or Memaid.
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-Hope this helps.
thks, its clear me up.