Samfirmware tweet 3hr ago that the new Froyo JPC firmware have some bootloader problem.
Any clue about this? Does it will permanently damage your phone?
I'm considering Flash this via ODIN or the HK one.
Yeah a lot of people are flashing it because it WILL permanently damage your phone.... just think about it for a sec.
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Yeah a lot of people are flashing it because it WILL permanently damage your phone.... just think about it for a sec.
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Simple english please.
I don't think anyone more should flash this fw.
It's buggy and crazy.
Also your nv-data.bin is modified.
I don't want my warranty to be un-voidable(by flashing original firmware).
I flashed through KIES and I believe this doesn't damage your phone. It's only thorugh Odin??
No, Kies modifies your /efs data as well. Flashing this firmware in any way shape or form will more or less permanently alter your phone
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No, Kies modifies your /efs data as well. Flashing this firmware in any way shape or form will more or less permanently alter your phone
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Implying restoring a backup of the /efs folder after flashing back an original firmware will not undo any changes made by JPC.
I've restored the stuff in /efs to get my phone back to working order- I still have goofed up build numbers and things like that. It's unfair to imply that this is totally safe for anyone to do, especially those that aren't super comfortable screwing around with protected areas on their phones. It's doubly unfair for people to have the impression that odin is the only unsafe way to install it =P
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Implying restoring a backup of the /efs folder after flashing back an original firmware will not undo any changes made by JPC.
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So essentially I'm f*cked then.
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So essentially I'm f*cked then.
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Not necessarily, it's too soon to tell if it will effect anything... take comfort in the fact that 85% of the SGS XDA community flashed this. Even if there IS an issue people will find ways around it =P
So what exactly is stored in the /efs folder and why is it such a bad thing that JPC has modified it? I've flashed this firmware. Does this mean I can't go back to an older firmware now?
I'm not sure of everything contained in the efs folder, but it contains your nv_data.bin files which contain all the unlock codes and such, so at least for people who have carrier locked phones it causes a mandatory network unlock request. You can get around that by restoring the backup files that the firmware conveniently makes.
Those are really the only show-stopping bugs, the rest of them are a bit more subtle, such as marking your phone as being a korean variant =P Though this problem apparently hasn't cropped up for everyone.
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So what exactly is stored in the /efs folder and why is it such a bad thing that JPC has modified it? I've flashed this firmware. Does this mean I can't go back to an older firmware now?
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You can, I flashed back JP3 after having a lot of errors with JPC
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I'm not sure of everything contained in the efs folder, but it contains your nv_data.bin files which contain all the unlock codes and such, so at least for people who have carrier locked phones it causes a mandatory network unlock request. You can get around that by restoring the backup files that the firmware conveniently makes.
Those are really the only show-stopping bugs, the rest of them are a bit more subtle, such as marking your phone as being a korean variant =P Though this problem apparently hasn't cropped up for everyone.
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Ah that's good to hear. Mine is the international version, so it should be fine. I thought the new recovery mode and stuff had problems or something.
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You can, I flashed back JP3 after having a lot of errors with JPC
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After flashing back to JP3, do you still have the new recovery mode or back to the old one? Can you use Clockwork Recovery now?
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Ah that's good to hear. Mine is the international version, so it should be fine. I thought the new recovery mode and stuff had problems or something.
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It does, you've got to flash your stock I9000 kernel before trying to apply update.zip files- since your power button wont work as the selector haha So far that's the only issue I know of with it though
Edit: Make sure you flash back to the JPC kernel before you try to actually boot
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It does, you've got to flash your stock I9000 kernel before trying to apply update.zip files- since your power button wont work as the selector haha So far that's the only issue I know of with it though
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Are you sure? Because right after flashing JPC, I went into recovery mode and did a Factory Reset. The volume up/down buttons worked fine for navigating through the menu and the Home button worked fine for clicking a menu item.
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Are you sure? Because right after flashing JPC, I went into recovery mode and did a Factory Reset. The volume up/down buttons worked fine for navigating through the menu and the Home button worked fine for clicking a menu item.
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That might be an issue for me because I'm on a captivate No physical home for me haha. I know for I9000 people rooting though they had to flash the original kernel to get it to work (Stole their trick but substituted the I897 kernel to get it to work for me), but I'm not sure why that is
Samsung have disabled the test keys in all firmwares after JP2. We don't have a real key yet, so gotta flash back to JP2 or before in order to apply an update.zip
Hopefully someone will find a new root-workaround soon.
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Samfirmware tweet 3hr ago that the new Froyo JPC firmware have some bootloader problem.
Any clue about this? Does it will permanently damage your phone?
I'm considering Flash this via ODIN or the HK one.
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Perhaps SamFirmware had his SGS brick when he try to flash it with odin3.
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Thanks for the clarification Ryan
As for samsung firmwares it seems he's just erring on the side of caution, he's got a post in Dutch up there that seems to roughly translate into him trying to avoid throwing up a suspicious firmware (the EFS changes etc) and potentially screwing tons of people, gotta respect that
Yes, especially since Samsung put this firmware up as a "beta" in kies withouth worrying about screwing people...
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Any ideas?
I have been experimenting with upgrading and down-grading my tab, it now seems that I can't flash any ROM that contains a hidden.rfs, the flash will just stop near the end of flashing the hidden.rfs and never continue, then I have to go through recovery processes to get a working tab back.
I managed to get my Tab back to CPW standard UK JJ3 by dumping the ROM from my other Tab and writing it, I then tried to update with Kies, which also hung at what seems to be exactly the same place.
I have tried repartitioning several times with the p1_add_hidden.pit but it just doesn't seem to work.
Any ideas? Can I check the size of the hidden partition see if that' the problem? Then modify the hidden.rfs to make it smaller so it fits?
Nobody at all got any feedback on this?
Anyone had any luck with this? I'm guessing it's a partitioning issue but it'd be good to know.
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Nobody at all got any feedback on this?
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It sounds like you're currently partitioned without the hidden partition. I would think flashing a full ROM like JJ4 with the P1_add_hidden.pit in Odin would be the fix.
After thats up and running, use my JMC upgrade package to safely upgrade.
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...use my JMC upgrade package to safely upgrade.
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Time to upgrade to JMD me thinks
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It sounds like you're currently partitioned without the hidden partition. I would think flashing a full ROM like JJ4 with the P1_add_hidden.pit in Odin would be the fix.
After thats up and running, use my JMC upgrade package to safely upgrade.
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Roto i wanna ask you something. You say "safely" upgrade why ? Because on your FW's you remove the boot.bin and the SBL.bin ? So that a user wont be able to flash them and something go wrong ?
As far as i know my tab ( A euro one ), is factory unlocked and i will have no problem whatsoever in upgrading the bootloader and the baseband.
Isnt that right ?
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Roto i wanna ask you something. You say "safely" upgrade why ? Because on your FW's you remove the boot.bin and the SBL.bin ? So that a user wont be able to flash them and something go wrong ?
As far as i know my tab ( A euro one ), is factory unlocked and i will have no problem whatsoever in upgrading the bootloader and the baseband.
Isnt that right ?
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Unlocking is unrelated. I say safely because flashing a bootloader is the only thing that makes me squirm. If it fails your device is toast. I never want to give anyone firmware that has the potential to destroy their device. I'd feel bad
daniel.weck said:
Time to upgrade to JMD me thinks
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Me too : ) maybe tonight after my guests leave.
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Unlocking is unrelated. I say safely because flashing a bootloader is the only thing that makes me squirm. If it fails your device is toast. I never want to give anyone firmware that has the potential to destroy their device. I'd feel bad
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And you are so right in removing them...
The leaks from Samsung's servers of JM6/JMA/JMC/JMD flash a signed recovery, after flashing it is impossible to flash unsigned sbl, boot, and zImage. No more downgrade (and possibly upgrade).
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It sounds like you're currently partitioned without the hidden partition. I would think flashing a full ROM like JJ4 with the P1_add_hidden.pit in Odin would be the fix.
After thats up and running, use my JMC upgrade package to safely upgrade.
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I thought my original post covered this? I can't flash _any_ ROM that uses the hidden partition. I have tried repartitioning a dozen times wit hthe p1_add_hidden.pit, that goes through fine, but NO ROM, full or otherwise, down or up from my current one will successfully complete flashing the "hidden" partition.
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I thought my original post covered this? I can't flash _any_ ROM that uses the hidden partition.
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You never mentioned JJ4 or Odin specifically, hence my post. Unless you spell out exactly which firmwares you tried and which software you used to flash with, how can anyone offer assistance?
If you've tried ALL firmware and All flashing software, that leaves only your computer or Tab at fault.
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You never mentioned JJ4 or Odin specifically, hence my post. Unless you spell out exactly which firmwares you tried and which software you used to flash with, how can anyone offer assistance?
If you've tried ALL firmware and All flashing software, that leaves only your computer or Tab at fault.
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Im not really worried about my Tab, i just think its a cause for concern that somehow iv stumbled on this problem. If its just the flash in my tab thats damaged its not a problem.
I have tried every firmware available on samfirmware as well as ripping the firmware from an identical tab i have.
Neither Heimdall, Kies nor Odin (either version) would get past flashing hidden and they all stop at about the same point. I have tried flashing various firmware without hidden with no problems. If i then repartition it will flash about 80% of the hidden then just stops.
Problem isnt my pc, i have tried several machines and virtual machines.
I think its a curious problem that would be good to find the cause of.
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I think its a curious problem that would be good to find the cause of.
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I agree. Do you have time to jump on irc #ModADroid-Galaxy-Tablet?
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I agree. Do you have time to jump on irc #ModADroid-Galaxy-Tablet?
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Cant at the mo, just off out to visit family, xmas and all...
Ill get back to you later tonight?
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Cant at the mo, just off out to visit family, xmas and all...
Ill get back to you later tonight?
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Sure, we're about to get a blizzard on the east coast of the US, so I may be cancelling my family visiting plans. Just ping me later.
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Sure, we're about to get a blizzard on the east coast of the US, so I may be cancelling my family visiting plans. Just ping me later.
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I'm around and will hop on the channel now. Don't have too long but maybe we can look into this a bit.
I just noticed what has veen going on with tje secured boot loaders etc. I will check mine with the script once I get home from my trip tomorrow to see if any info froem my tab is relevent to fixing the problem. I noticed a mention of creating jigs, im not sure what hardware is required but I have a couple of usb-rs232 connectors on order for an unrelated project so if it requires the same hardware I can put a spare one to use and build a jtag/jig cable for the tab and see if I can help the cause.
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Question for rotohammer
Once upon a time I bricked my Verizon Galaxy Tab trying to flash a custom ROM, the only way I could bring it back was by using Odin and flashing the hidden pit. Now every time I install the original verizon rom my tab is extremely, extremely slow. I have been trying to reformat and wipe clean to start over, but I haven't had any luck.
Any suggestions on how to: either flash the right pit on it or remove the hidden partition? Anything I can do to bring my tab to full speed. I have also tried the overclocked rom with voodoo5, and at this point anything I put there is extremely slow. The only way I can get it to operate normally (Kind of) is to flash the Honeycomb Alpha rom, then restore to a day when it was working fine, however this breaks my auto rotate sensor.
That is how I use it now a days, but it sucks that I cannot use it on landscape mode.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Follow up from my previous question to rotohammer
By the way, just in case you were wondering, the rom I flashed to unbrick it was a GSM ROM, that was the only way to make it past the Samsung logo.
So, my theory is that I have problems with it because now I am trying to flash CDMA roms to a GSM partition/files system? Excuse me if my post does not make much sense or I am using the wrong terminology, I am extremely new a this. I just know enough to get myself in trouble.
Thank you again for any help.
I've encountered the same problem as the original poster. SGT with CPW CSC causes problems with the hidden.rfs when trying to flash ROMs. Does appear to be a size issue with the hidden partition - I wonder whether this has been sized incorrectly when it was originally flashed as re-partitioning doesn't help. I'm currently on a XEU ROM so I guess I'll find out when Gingerbread is officially released whether I can flash that or not. If not, I think it'll need to the internal SD card repartitioning.
Anyone got any tips on how to do this?
Firstly guys, I'd like to apologise for this being my first post. I'm usually a regular over at the SGS forums but am yet to have had a response. I'm ****ting bricks currently, so here goes...
ARGH wtf. Just as I thought I had the perfect phone, it messes up! Darky's ROM went mad on me. Kept rebooting the phone. Kept vibrating throughout. No idea what's wrong with it. Tried to do a wipe install of the ROM again, but the bloody thing has disappeared from the SD card! What am I going to do now? Reflash back to my previous firmware and start all over again, AGAIN? Ffs.
Just for the record, I'm basically stuck in recovery mode. It's either that or staring at the Nexus S logo as it attempts to boot, over and over and over... I'm so angry right now! I didn't do anything to the phone for this to happen! Bad luck or what. Really hope there is a solution to this. I don't suppose there's anyway of accessing the device's SD memory when in recovery mode? I just need to plant the update.zip on the SD card again so I can reflash it!
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I would massively massively appreciate any help you guys could give me. I've had nothing but bad luck with my Galaxy S
[EDIT] Oh and by the way, I still have full access to my three-button combo modes. Clockwork recovery console and Download mode still fully accessible.
Hi
I'm also new here and got my SGS yesterday, but i had a HTC Desire before.
If you can get in to Clockworkmod recovery you should be able to push the file via adb to the sdcard. That was possible on the Desire at least.
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I'm also new here and got my SGS yesterday, but i had a HTC Desire before.
If you can get in to Clockworkmod recovery you should be able to push the file via adb to the sdcard. That was possible on the Desire at least.
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Hey there, thanks for your response! What may I ask is 'adb'?
Android development....something
Just flash back to eclair again. The time it took you to get an answer on a forum is longer tham the time it takes to flash.
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I'm guessing you screwed up without diabling lagfixes or something, just install JM8 with repartition enabled and using pit 512 file again then install clockwork update.zip then install whatever rom (but in this case darkys). It starts to become habbit when testing new roms to do all of them steps, The first time something happens you **** bricks but soon relize the SGS is alot more brick poof then you think (unless you are one of the poor souls with broken recovery modes)
But anyways, calm the hell down. Everything is fine.
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I'm guessing you screwed up without diabling lagfixes or something, just install JM8 with repartition enabled and using pit 512 file again then install clockwork update.zip then install whatever rom (but in this case darkys). It starts to become habbit when testing new roms to do all of them steps, The first time something happens you **** bricks but soon relize the SGS is alot more brick poof then you think (unless you are one of the poor souls with broken recovery modes)
But anyways, calm the hell down. Everything is fine.
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I've absolutely no idea what files to flash... I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to flashing with the SGS. Quite embarrassing actually because I used to flash my old Omnia HD with no problems whatsoever! Don't suppose you could link to files.
Don't worry, your Galaxy is not bricked. Please see here how to reflash from a PC.
I've downloaded all necessary files... I've got a CODE a MODEM the 512.pit but no CSC? Am I okay to flash with no CSC?
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I've downloaded all necessary files... I've got a CODE a MODEM the 512.pit but no CSC? Am I okay to flash with no CSC?
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CSC contains all carrier-related (like APNs) data.
Depending on the type of packaging some CODE files are complete with CSC.
In any case, you can flash a CSC (like ITV or XEU) even later.
Before to go with flash, I'd like to advise you to backup /efs folder on your SD and/or your PC. This is the only folder with information (like your IMEI configuration) that cannot be recovered in case of a total data loss.
After a long gruelling process of flashing and reflashing, I'm back on Darky's ROM. Problem though - App market is messed up. I can't download anything from the Market and it's also the 'old' Market theme... I think has something to do with the fact that I've flashed from Eclair straight to Darky's? (Which I was advised to do...) - How can I get my Market working again?! Everything is fine besides that!
[EDIT] I now have the new market interface but still cannot download a thing!
I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
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I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
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Depends on your Captivate. In general, it's a bad idea to flash back to stock unless absolutely necessary. Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode. You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
Also, wrong forum. This belongs in Q&A.
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Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates.
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Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
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You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
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"Hold down both volume buttons and while holding them down plug the phone in." works for me
I have bricked my phone to the point of needing a jig 3 times now all because of odin. But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
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But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
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Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
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Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
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But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
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Here is the rule of thumb: if it does not specifically say anything about being able to not use ODIN in the original thread for the ROM you MUST you ODIN.
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But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
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Sometimes personal habit becomes the correct way to do something. For instance one teacher teaching how to count with pictures of apples and the other using oranges.
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Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode.
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
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Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
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you can buy jigs online people sell for 20$ or so...but it's actually very simple to make and so cheap as well so buying one is slightly pointless. also, i have flashed too many roms i've lost track, my phone shutdown in the middle of an odin, etc etc, and i always manage to get out of it so i wouldn't be concerned. having 3button enabled helps tho
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Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
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I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time. I needed the jig yesterday for the first time. From what I understand, the jig method is almost a guarantee fir download mode, making the captivate nearly unbrickable. Can it be bricked... I am sure it can, but you are part of a community full of resources to keep you from doing so. You trepidation is not unique... I too was slow to flash my captivate. Now that I have, I have a phone that I love. I have been able to contribute to the community. And... I have a new found addiction.
Hi. My username is NunHugger and I am a flashaholic.
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I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time.
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You are completely right there!
I think I'll hold off doing my first flash until I can go out and get the parts for the jig, make and test it, so I can be sure nothing bad will happen
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Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Same here...corrupted data is corrupted data..and will cause problems...no matter how it gets loaded ...I've have been using Odin since I came to the Captivate..and is the only way I have been able to actually enjoy a new rom..A new rom...a fresh install..less problems for me.
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A question about download mode:
I want to test if my captivate can get into download mode by the 3-button combo. However, I don't have any zips to update or anything to download or anything like that.
How do I enter download mode and then exit without making any modifications?
I thought I could just power the phone off, but in big letters it says "Do not power off target" (in videos I've watched).
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Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
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Accepted, yes.
Stupiud, yes.
You don't need anything to flash to get into DL mode
Just follow the instructions as it says and if it comes up you can just reboot the phone. Although you have to pull the battery. Although I've heard that holding just the Vol Up and Power for 10 secs also works. I've never tried it though
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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Depends on a lot of factors. It could be that your Captivate doesn't support flashing back to earlier than JH2 (JF6 one-click will brick), that your Captivate is already missing button combos (requires C3P0LOL's fixed Odin or AT&T's OTA JH7 update), a bad USB cable, problems with Windows, using the wrong USB port, etc. (all on top of user error). Lagfix won't affect Odin flashes.
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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I wouldn't say they are random. They are probably mostly caused by user error or some fault in the USB chain (port, cable, driver interactions). Whatever the root cause, from what I can see almost all bricks/semibricks are the result of using odin (I include cases such as where a cwm flash results in a boot loop and the user can recover because he used one-click and has no button combos).
Sorry for the long read, this is half rant and half question.
Alright, I got a captivate a long time ago (about a year and 3 months ago), loved it, rooted it and installed cyanogenmod as soon as I got home, changed roms and kernals constantly, did whatever I wanted to do.
About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
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If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
-Pirate said:
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
U def don't need a jig. If it's booting it's not bricked. Try removing battery, start Odin, hold down power and down, plug in and put battery in. This should bring u to download mode.
prbassplayer said:
If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I did start to see a few people with the problem, however many people do not follow up with what fixes their problem, and I did what a few people had said to do.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
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I should of mentioned that I did flash a few times, 3 total I think, it was getting stuck at boot.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
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I understand that **** happens but honestly my old captivate could always get into recover mode and download mode no matter what, it's extremely frustrating that something changed with the newer models. One of my questions was what caused the brick? I did nothing wrong from what I see and it was running perfectly until I tried to restart/boot into recovery.
Oh and mbc663, thanks but download mode doesn't work at all, nor does recovery obviously.
I can't say exactly what you are doing. Best advice I can do Re download your .zips Flash back to stock GB and try again.
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About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
Sounds like you got one of the refurbs that is missing the SBL. Have you looked at this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
I've not had this problem myself but it sounds like that might help. If I remember reading correctly, once this is flashed it should stick as long as you don't flash any other bootloaders on top of it.
Its not missing the sbl. The sbl it has doesn't respond to key combos. Derpa sherpa moment for samsung I guess?
Rofl yeah...if it was missing the sbl it would be fuggin bricked!
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Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
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I know, thanks. I'm such a creature of habit, I started doing it like this a bit over a year ago, and has worked flawlessly for me(just jinxed myself!) so I never saw a reason to "fix what aint broke".
I'll take a look at Cezar's thanks!
Yeah, missing SBL was a poor choice of words. My bad.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
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I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
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3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
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How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
-Pirate said:
I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
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When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
Sent from a autonomous device
kangi26 said:
When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
Sent from a autonomous device
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
-Pirate said:
Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
kangi26 said:
The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: deleted
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: imgurDOTcom/26sXGl.jpg
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
kangi26 said:
I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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I'm not sure why, mine is a referb, and I have a sticker with mine on it. Ooh well, it is what it is
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I need the Stock Firmware version G900AUCU2AND3 So that I can flash back to stock. In the thread return to stock it has the previous version G900AUCU1ANCE. I get a error when trying to odin back (SW REV CHECK FAIL : [about]Fused 2 > Binary 1). So I am not sure how its done but need someone who has it do a dump or how ever its done to get it in a way that it can be flashed either by odin or in recovery... Any help will be appreciated... Thanks
i will need this too, i have my phone on at&t next and after a year i can trade it in, but if its custom os and stuff i cant return it, so i will need this too if i want to return to stock so i can upgrade to a new phone next year.
Bump: This is needed very badly. As I imagine many people had to take that bloat ware update. If anyone that has this firm ware has a problem and needs to restore back to stock. They won't be able to use the one that's listed in on this forum as its the older one, and now that there is Root. Its very likely this will happen daily that people will need it. I don't know exactly what soft bricked my phone so it can happen to anyone. My phone was fine until a reboot. Please, please, please. I'm begging everyone that has it. I asked Samsung and they wouldn't help. Next maybe going to AT&T store and having warranty claim done. I don't really want to find the out come of that.
I need this very badly as well. I rooted my phone and then tried to alter my screen density via an app I found on Google Play. It requested root, I granted the permission and then when the phone rebooted it hung on "Samsung Galaxy S5" splash screen and will no go any further. ODIN will not allow me to flash G900AUCU1ANCE firmware since I did the OTA update. If anyone could post up their G900AUCU2AND3, I would appreciate it very much.
kwikrat said:
I need this very badly as well. I rooted my phone and then tried to alter my screen density via an app I found on Google Play. It requested root, I granted the permission and then when the phone rebooted it hung on "Samsung Galaxy S5" splash screen and will no go any further. ODIN will not allow me to flash G900AUCU1ANCE firmware since I did the OTA update. If anyone could post up their G900AUCU2AND3, I would appreciate it very much.
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I estimate we will get @ least One to two of these per-day until we get the files. Since we now have Root. It may take a bit as At&t version don't seem to have much for devs. Or ones that care to really help.(I'll probably get reamed for this. Sorry for you that help and for your time) I contacted At&t they told me they could not help but I could send my phone in for warranty exchange. Its that or go to BestBuy and they can flash it back. I don't have a Bestbuy Nearby.
Guys, check that post. Shortydoggg found a temporary fix for any soft bricks. It's for extreme cases. My phone is fine (apart from some deleted stock apps) so I'll hold off until i get some more info but if you cant boot at all, his method should come in handy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785185&goto=newpost
+1 :highfive:
NotDavid said:
Guys, check that post. Shortydoggg found a temporary fix for any soft bricks. It's for extreme cases. My phone is fine (apart from some deleted stock apps) so I'll hold off until i get some more info but if you cant boot at all, his method should come in handy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785185&goto=newpost
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Thank you. The above link solved my problem. I am back up and running! At first data wasn't working other than wi-fi but I merely had to re-enter my APN that I got from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746380 :good:
can you update to G900AUCU2AND3 after flashing this?
dave1977nj said:
can you update to G900AUCU2AND3 after flashing this?
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YUP, I did the AT&T update check and got it immediately afterwards. I instead of flashing every one separately and rebooting loaded the three files so minus the Bl file. I did not have the problems of having to reload APN this way.
pcidiot said:
YUP, I did the AT&T update check and got it immediately afterwards. I instead of flashing every one separately and rebooting loaded the three files so minus the Bl file. I did not have the problems of having to reload APN this way.
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Thanks!!! :good:
pcidiot said:
YUP, I did the AT&T update check and got it immediately afterwards. I instead of flashing every one separately and rebooting loaded the three files so minus the Bl file. I did not have the problems of having to reload APN this way.
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A flash of the CSC file restores the APN after flashing the AP file, or flashing it together with the AP file, but it factory resets the phone. Flashing the AP file only is mostly for those who do not want a factory reset. But, a factory reset along with flashing only the AP file will indeed wipe the APN. I found all of that out through trial and error.
shortydoggg said:
A flash of the CSC file restores the APN after flashing the AP file, or flashing it together with the AP file, but it factory resets the phone. Flashing the AP file only is mostly for those who do not want a factory reset. But, a factory reset along with flashing only the AP file will indeed wipe the APN. I found all of that out through trial and error.
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Thanks for your trials this will be useful to many.
pcidiot said:
Thanks for your trials this will be useful to many.
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No problem.
dave1977nj said:
can you update to G900AUCU2AND3 after flashing this?
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Yes do not root first, flash it then wait a few minutes then do a check for updates it will download the crap update with the yp yellow pages app,
then reboot and root
and take it away !!
pcidiot said:
Bump: This is needed very badly. As I imagine many people had to take that bloat ware update. If anyone that has this firm ware has a problem and needs to restore back to stock. They won't be able to use the one that's listed in on this forum as its the older one, and now that there is Root. Its very likely this will happen daily that people will need it. I don't know exactly what soft bricked my phone so it can happen to anyone. My phone was fine until a reboot. Please, please, please. I'm begging everyone that has it. I asked Samsung and they wouldn't help. Next maybe going to AT&T store and having warranty claim done. I don't really want to find the out come of that.
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Same troubles here pcidiot!!!! soft bricked and nothing will load onto the phone. ODIN gives me the same kind of error as listed on the starting thread! I can get to recovery mode and Download (ODIN) mode on the phone but nothing wants to flash. Do we dump? Do we Erase Nand? CONFUSING!!! why is it so easy to bunk up a phone!
Achilles5410 said:
Same troubles here pcidiot!!!! soft bricked and nothing will load onto the phone. ODIN gives me the same kind of error as listed on the starting thread! I can get to recovery mode and Download (ODIN) mode on the phone but nothing wants to flash. Do we dump? Do we Erase Nand? CONFUSING!!! why is it so easy to bunk up a phone!
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There should only be two boxes checked in odin thats f. reset time and auto reboot. Also Make sure you only check and load your firmware in the ap slot in odin. Now flash.
Achilles5410 said:
Same troubles here pcidiot!!!! soft bricked and nothing will load onto the phone. ODIN gives me the same kind of error as listed on the starting thread! I can get to recovery mode and Download (ODIN) mode on the phone but nothing wants to flash. Do we dump? Do we Erase Nand? CONFUSING!!! why is it so easy to bunk up a phone!
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Are you following this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53454972&postcount=1
shortydoggg said:
Are you following this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53454972&postcount=1
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Yea I did thank you. Did it today and thanked the poster too.
Want to start over! Need help!
So I want to do whats written out in step 4 of shorttydogs thread but I don't want to mess up or brick my phone. My goal is to start over and go back to stock with bloatware and everything that is available on stock if I were to go AT&T and buy it today. Here is a little background on my phone. My phone is rooted and I do have safestrap (and busybox). I backed up everything on my microSD card. I also have the g900AUCU2AND3 firmware on my phone. In addition, I deleted some but not all AT&T bloatware, which I want back. Lastly, for some reason the "add call button" during my calls is missing and was replaced with a "record" button I think this was because of me playing around with xposed. I deleted xposed framework as well as wanam and tried everything to get the "add call button" back but I couldn't. Thus, I just want to go back to stock to fix all these issues. I just have a few questions before I proceed just to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong.
1) If I flash the AP, CP and CSC files will I achieve 100% stock with bloatware?
2) Will this return my "add call button"?
3) Is it as simple as just using odin 3.09 and flashing the AP, CP, and CSC files?
4) I also understand that this will take me back to G900AUCU1ANCE but will I be able to do an OTA do go to G900AUCU2AND3?
5) Is there anything else I need to know to prevent my phone from bricking!
Sorry for the long post but I am fairly new to this stuff and don't want mess anything up!