Hey guys,
Lately i noticed that all 3rd party web browsers lag on the i9000 without the lag fix... especially the xscope browser which is the fastest out there takes me to load a page without flash enabled about 5 minutes!!! which on other devices loads fully in 20 seconds max. i'm an embedded software developer myself and i know that poor io can screw up things, but not that much!! unless they write every byte from the network stack to the flash drive which i don't believe.
anyways my question is if theres anyone experiencing similar issues and if anyone got an idea why this happens?
My overview of 3rd party browsers is the same as well, stock kills them all.
No browser in terms of smoothness comes close to the stock browser imho.
well on the i9000 unfortunately it's right but on my friends htc desire xscope is way faster than the stock browser and im not even gonna talk about features like faking the user agent and real tabbed browsing
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Here's 2 alternative browser I like and use...
Miren taken from another forum run great on the gtab (will update once installed)
UC is a great browser as well.
+1,000 on Miren. It's my browser of choice for Android devices. You can change the settings to allow you to use every inch of your screens real-estate, plus it's fast and intuitive.
Curious to know what advantages it has on Dolphin HD.
Is the Miren browser compatible with Flash 10.2?
I tried Miren for about an hour but it ran really slow for me. I do like the features and how it renders compared to Dolphin HD. For now speed is my main issue so I'll have to check back on this browser after a few updates and see if it gets better.
I really like Skyfire 3.0. Though I haven't figured out how to close individual tabs yet.
Can someone tell me how to set MIUI for desktop view? All the sites are coming up mobile.
Thanks
EDIT: Switched to the Miren Browser and took care of the problem.
Hey guys, I was wondering what browser you are using and why you use the one you use. Share your experiences.
Personally I've tried some different browsers and I think Opera Mobile is one of the best, because it scrolls real nice when reading a lot of text like on a forum. It kinda sticks to the text when scrolling up or down. Thereby when you click at a link that's really close to another link, so close you easily make a mistake when clicking, it zooms in real far and marks both links and let you choose one of them.
These options I found really helpfull.
Browsers I've tried so far:
- Mirren Browser
- Dolphin Browser
- Stock Browser
- Opera Mobile
-Boat Browser
->fast and smooth
->html5 support
->desktop view
->flash support by clicking once a symbol on web page, so there you save time, if you don't want to view flash ads
->pinch zoom (not standard on some! See opera)
->tabbed browsing
->text reflow (also not standard on some browsers!)
-Skyfire
-Its quick
-Smooth
-Tabbed browsing
-Pinch to zoom
-Quick links
Ive tried several browsers to include all of the ones you listed, and of them all this one has been my favorite. Although I have not tried the one listed above (Boat) I don't feel the need to try any others as this one for me is perfect.
Stock Browser
Simple !
I would aslo say it has better quality than some other browsers such as, Firfox !
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Stock, all the others are crap.
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Stock browser is the fastest, you can find tests on google, and none of the other browsers are as fast..
I personally like the new opera mobile 11 browser. In integrates flash nicely and scrolls very smooth through the webpages. I especially like the fast scroll option.
Hm, if there is an option to change the user agent, I can fell in love with the stock browser.
But it can't and some webpages are in mobile Optic. I can't live with mobile optic.
Opera is really good but some webpages looks strange with it. Forums are such sites. I don't know, why the opera websites looks other than normal ones.
koboltzz said:
->pinch zoom (not standard on some! See opera)
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opera has pinch zoom..
tried boat and skyfire, but i still like opera mobile more. it may not be the fastest one around but it has a great user experience imo
Stock browser? Can only show mobile view and forget about:debug settings!
For me, that is no real internet browsing.
Only used stock. However I liked the one on HTC Desire HD better then the one on this phone (LG optimistic 2X) . Wish it comes in a custom ROM soon.
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Using Boat browser atm, but Opera 11 has been my choice since it came... Never testet flash in Opera, but it may be integrated now(other post here)?
Testet skyfire, xscoope, miren, firefox++ Miren was my favorite on my G2, but 2X somehow lags when trying to switch tabs, so I switched
Stock with AdFree
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dolphin hd,is speed
Miren. Really a fantastic browser.
Opera Mobile, mostly because of the great Computer <--> Mobile Phone synchronization.
Operamobile:
best text reflow ever seen
Opera link
doesnt have problem with login pages at wifihotspots like stock one do
seems to run smoother than stock on O2X
unfortunatelly sometimes Im experiencing issues when i want to download something
I tried Mirren and Firefox4.
I'd love to use Firefox 4 but it causes my LG Launcher to crash and makes the phone nearly freeze.
Mirren seems really good, but i don't like the colors.
Using the stock browser most of the time.
I've always used stock on phones - I have a tablet for heavy web stuff and a phone is really just there to quickly visit a specific site or serve a request, not spend any amount of time on it.
FireFox is certainly nice but I just don't need all the things it offers.
The only time I used a non stock browser was on my very old k800i where Opera's proxy make viewing heavy pages much faster.
Nowadays with fast connections and better CPU there's no need for it though.
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I have to say boat browser mini really is the best browser I've tried so far... and I've tried a few: Opera, Dolphin HD, Miren, xScoope, Firefox ++
Boat has html5, flash, pinch to zoom, tabs ++
All this hype around Android made me buy a SGS. Having flash on the browser was one big reason for acquisition. Soon I discovered that flash isn't what is promised, a desktop experience on my mobile device. I say this because most of the time (like 95%) the flash works so bad in my browser, that is barely usable. When trying to watch streams, mostly on news sites I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" and the playback is choppy, sometimes when seeking, takes 10-15 seconds until the choppy playback starts again. If I try to watch something in low quality it works fine, but most of the sites offer good quality video. I expect more from a 1Ghz cpu...
Is this a problem of my device or is it general ? I have the latest Adobe Flash available on the market.
What firmware and kernel are you using?
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Do some research... if you are using the Default browser, open it and in the address bar type:
about:debug
and hit go...
Now go into your browser settings and at the bottom there should be an option to set the UA String, select Desktop....
Downside:
some sites will still see your device as mobile.
you have to re do the fix Every time you load the browser...
Alternative:
try Dolphin HD broswer, it has a US string setting in the options already and only needs set once.
Downside:
Is a little slower to load pages than the default browser.
some sites will still see your device as mobile.
An another point, if you are using 3g... don't expect miracles!
sadly he's right ;( its not even working properly over wifi so i cant really say the net is the problem.
id say the problem lies in flash itself and/or its something in the memory management since ive seen stock roms delivering way better flashperformance than any custom so far, so possibility is that the stream freezes and has to rebuffer every time the memmngt cuts the memory, else you could just try to flash ubuntu and see if it works any magic ;P what do it know for all its worth it could be tha b0mb
good luck anyways !
alinescoo said:
All this hype around Android made me buy a SGS. Having flash on the browser was one big reason for acquisition. Soon I discovered that flash isn't what is promised, a desktop experience on my mobile device. I say this because most of the time (like 95%) the flash works so bad in my browser, that is barely usable. When trying to watch streams, mostly on news sites I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" and the playback is choppy, sometimes when seeking, takes 10-15 seconds until the choppy playback starts again. If I try to watch something in low quality it works fine, but most of the sites offer good quality video. I expect more from a 1Ghz cpu...
Is this a problem of my device or is it general ? I have the latest Adobe Flash available on the market.
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Solution: Flash a custom JVK Gingerbread rom and DO NOT install the flash player from the market, but use the one that comes preinstalled! This way you'll have 720p flash videos playing smoothly.
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I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" .
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I guess its rather a problem with some websites.
I never had problem with Flash player 10.1 or 10.2 (i am MIUI rom but i had previously JVK)
No problem with my SGS but i dont use flash that often so it could be as said some sites .
Use Dolphin HD browser mostly .
The video is not optimized for mobile" >> could that be the clue ???
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I have stock JS4 ROM, sorry forgot to mention this in the main thread. Also I am using flash only via Wifi. Actually I am using Opera Mobile and I've set the UA to Firefox Desktop one. Gonna try the idea with stock browser, maybe Opera has messed up something.
Most browsers are crashing at the sight of an animated GIF on webpages. So far, Boat Browser, CM Browser, Maxthon Browser, and Naked Browser crash at the sight of the animated GIF attached to this thread below.
Chrome and Dolphin are the only two browsers that aren't crashing while viewing the image. Dolphin is unusable at the moment because it hasn't been updated yet, and I don't care for the UI and options in Chrome.
Having said that, this problem doesn't exist when using the same browsers and viewing the same image on my Note 3 running Kit Kat. In fact, I have zero browser issues on my Note 3.
Another browser issue I'm having is with the loading of previous tabs. If I open two tabs, then close the second tab, the first one loads relatively slowly (graphically). This is the case with Boat Browser (and the others listed above), but not with Chrome. This problem is also not present on my Note 3 with any browser.
I'm not sure where the browsers store tabs (RAM or disk), but my Note 3 is faster loading tabs than the Nexus, which is pretty sad, in my opinion. Scrolling webpages is faster and smoother on the Nexus, but that's about it.
And frankly with 3 GB's of RAM, I don't know why a browser would load tabs from disk instead of RAM, which could mean that the RAM on this phone is slower than the RAM on the Note 3.
I've used 3 different ROMs, 3 different kernels. Enabled "Force GPU" in dev options. Even unencrypted in case the browser was reading and writing from the disk instead of RAM. The slow graphical loading of previous tabs is still present on the Nexus 6 no matter what I try.
I'm > < this close to selling my Nexus because of all the unstable browsers and slow graphics. I've had nothing but constant crashing of browsers. And the slow graphic loading of previous tabs on this phone which is non-existent on my Note 3 is also disappointing. I've read around the forums where people have had graphics issues with games that don't exist on other phones.
I've reduced the screen size from 1440 down to 1080, causing less strain on the GPU, and the slow graphics issue was still there in the browsers.
I love the customizeability, screen size, and openness of the Nexus. But at this point, that's where my love for this phone ends. My Note 3 is more stable.
Anyone have any suggestions or input? A little unhappy and disappointed at this point.
** Edit to add: I understand that apps may not be updated or optimized for the 1440 screen size and for Android 5.x. But app developers have had how long now to update their apps? Not really an excuse.
If you're that unhappy with your N6, and are unwilling to use a browser that is updated and actually works, go back to your beloved Note 3. There's the validation you're looking for.
It's all just an illusion
-BoneZ- said:
Most browsers are crashing at the sight of an animated GIF on webpages. So far, Boat Browser, CM Browser, Maxthon Browser, and Naked Browser crash at the sight of the animated GIF attached to this thread below.
Chrome and Dolphin are the only two browsers that aren't crashing while viewing the image. Dolphin is unusable at the moment because it hasn't been updated yet, and I don't care for the UI and options in Chrome.
Having said that, this problem doesn't exist when using the same browsers and viewing the same image on my Note 3 running Kit Kat. In fact, I have zero browser issues on my Note 3.
Another browser issue I'm having is with the loading of previous tabs. If I open two tabs, then close the second tab, the first one loads relatively slowly (graphically). This is the case with Boat Browser (and the others listed above), but not with Chrome. This problem is also not present on my Note 3 with any browser.
I'm not sure where the browsers store tabs (RAM or disk), but my Note 3 is faster loading tabs than the Nexus, which is pretty sad, in my opinion. Scrolling webpages is faster and smoother on the Nexus, but that's about it.
And frankly with 3 GB's of RAM, I don't know why a browser would load tabs from disk instead of RAM, which could mean that the RAM on this phone is slower than the RAM on the Note 3.
I've used 3 different ROMs, 3 different kernels. Enabled "Force GPU" in dev options. Even unencrypted in case the browser was reading and writing from the disk instead of RAM. The slow graphical loading of previous tabs is still present on the Nexus 6 no matter what I try.
I'm > < this close to selling my Nexus because of all the unstable browsers and slow graphics. I've had nothing but constant crashing of browsers. And the slow graphic loading of previous tabs on this phone which is non-existent on my Note 3 is also disappointing. I've read around the forums where people have had graphics issues with games that don't exist on other phones.
I've reduced the screen size from 1440 down to 1080, causing less strain on the GPU, and the slow graphics issue was still there in the browsers.
I love the customizeability, screen size, and openness of the Nexus. But at this point, that's where my love for this phone ends. My Note 3 is more stable.
Anyone have any suggestions or input? A little unhappy and disappointed at this point.
** Edit to add: I understand that apps may not be updated or optimized for the 1440 screen size and for Android 5.x. But app developers have had how long now to update their apps? Not really an excuse.
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I don't have any if these issues.
trickster2369 said:
If you're that unhappy with your N6, and are unwilling to use a browser that is updated and actually works, go back to your beloved Note 3. There's the validation you're looking for.
It's all just an illusion
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Oh, I'm not unhappy. You do make a valid point.
I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
lmacmil said:
I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10. Would spontaneously freeze or reboot every couple days. I will try FF on the Nook and see what happens. Thanks.
I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10
I use FF on my Toshiba with Windows 10 with no issues. It's my goto browser there too for the same reasons.
I use Opera on any android device, simply because it is the only one I know of that still supports dynamic text reflow, allowing one to zoom in and not have to scroll left and right. It irks me that other browsers do not support this.