All this hype around Android made me buy a SGS. Having flash on the browser was one big reason for acquisition. Soon I discovered that flash isn't what is promised, a desktop experience on my mobile device. I say this because most of the time (like 95%) the flash works so bad in my browser, that is barely usable. When trying to watch streams, mostly on news sites I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" and the playback is choppy, sometimes when seeking, takes 10-15 seconds until the choppy playback starts again. If I try to watch something in low quality it works fine, but most of the sites offer good quality video. I expect more from a 1Ghz cpu...
Is this a problem of my device or is it general ? I have the latest Adobe Flash available on the market.
What firmware and kernel are you using?
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Do some research... if you are using the Default browser, open it and in the address bar type:
about:debug
and hit go...
Now go into your browser settings and at the bottom there should be an option to set the UA String, select Desktop....
Downside:
some sites will still see your device as mobile.
you have to re do the fix Every time you load the browser...
Alternative:
try Dolphin HD broswer, it has a US string setting in the options already and only needs set once.
Downside:
Is a little slower to load pages than the default browser.
some sites will still see your device as mobile.
An another point, if you are using 3g... don't expect miracles!
sadly he's right ;( its not even working properly over wifi so i cant really say the net is the problem.
id say the problem lies in flash itself and/or its something in the memory management since ive seen stock roms delivering way better flashperformance than any custom so far, so possibility is that the stream freezes and has to rebuffer every time the memmngt cuts the memory, else you could just try to flash ubuntu and see if it works any magic ;P what do it know for all its worth it could be tha b0mb
good luck anyways !
alinescoo said:
All this hype around Android made me buy a SGS. Having flash on the browser was one big reason for acquisition. Soon I discovered that flash isn't what is promised, a desktop experience on my mobile device. I say this because most of the time (like 95%) the flash works so bad in my browser, that is barely usable. When trying to watch streams, mostly on news sites I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" and the playback is choppy, sometimes when seeking, takes 10-15 seconds until the choppy playback starts again. If I try to watch something in low quality it works fine, but most of the sites offer good quality video. I expect more from a 1Ghz cpu...
Is this a problem of my device or is it general ? I have the latest Adobe Flash available on the market.
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Solution: Flash a custom JVK Gingerbread rom and DO NOT install the flash player from the market, but use the one that comes preinstalled! This way you'll have 720p flash videos playing smoothly.
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I get a message with "The video is not optimized for mobile" .
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I guess its rather a problem with some websites.
I never had problem with Flash player 10.1 or 10.2 (i am MIUI rom but i had previously JVK)
No problem with my SGS but i dont use flash that often so it could be as said some sites .
Use Dolphin HD browser mostly .
The video is not optimized for mobile" >> could that be the clue ???
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I have stock JS4 ROM, sorry forgot to mention this in the main thread. Also I am using flash only via Wifi. Actually I am using Opera Mobile and I've set the UA to Firefox Desktop one. Gonna try the idea with stock browser, maybe Opera has messed up something.
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I noticed that Hulu's Flash Player requirements are 9.0xxxx, whereas the Flash Player that is in JACHero is 9.1xxxx. Has anyone had any luck with any Hulu videos?
Whatever your feelings on Flash, the fact remains that having Hulu.com working on Android would be a significant attribute for many people - even if you personally think of it as silly.
For me, G1 + Hero ROM + Hulu = Bliss!
Hopefully, the Flash Player will be updated again with another leaked Hero firmware.
I haven't been able to play hulu either. I just loads and does nothing else. When the hero rom was leaked some one said they were watching family guy on hulu.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/27/ps3-owners-get-boxeed-hulu-this-video-is-not-available-on-yo/
In the comments people were saying it no longer worked with the winmo skyfire browser either, so perhaps this has something to do with it? Although i would expect you see the error message instead of just nothing...
It would seem Hulu is blocking everything but desktop computers... they've locked out Boxee, XBMC, PlayStation 3, Windows Mobile, and are adding blocks everyday. Vewy vewy sad
Hmmmm....I wonder is there a way to mod the browser to change the user agent data it sends out to sites to say it was firefox etc? There has got to be a way. Or is there a proxy that can do this?
And, is there a way to increase the amount of space for the cache on the sdcard.
Can the flash player play streaming radio stations?
Wasnt the flash on JAC rom replaced by fatal1ty's?
I wonder if that was the reason why hulu doesn't work anymore.
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Wasnt the flash on JAC rom replaced by fatal1ty's?
I wonder if that was the reason why hulu doesn't work anymore.
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hulu never worked on JAC's version, the guy who had it working posted in the fatal1ty thread. i'm pretty sure he did anyway.
Me personaly I have tried... it gave me one error where it said I didnt have the cache space I went and cleared the cash and then it just loads and loads and loads... It wants to work but Im thinking it needs a tad bit better flash player...
ps double tapping on anything flash will set it to full screen... I think its sick! Hope they do update it... peace!
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Hmmmm....I wonder is there a way to mod the browser to change the user agent data it sends out to sites to say it was firefox etc? There has got to be a way. Or is there a proxy that can do this?
And, is there a way to increase the amount of space for the cache on the sdcard.
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Well, for the user agent,you can use steel,but flash won't work unless there is a version based off of the HTC browser. Is there a source code for steel?
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Can the flash player play streaming radio stations?
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I havent tried radio stations yet, however I frequent hiphopDX.com often for new single releases and they play great in the flash browser
I am thinking that there will probably be an upgrade to HTC Flash before Hero's release. Think of their embarassment in the face of an almost working Hulu. They need the sales, so let's hope they tweak the player a bit to work right. If YouTube works fine, I see no reason for Hulu not too.
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I am thinking that there will probably be an upgrade to HTC Flash before Hero's release. Think of their embarassment in the face of an almost working Hulu. They need the sales, so let's hope they tweak the player a bit to work right. If YouTube works fine, I see no reason for Hulu not too.
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The flash that comes with Hero is not the reason we can't watch Hulu on our phones. It is Hulu that is at fault. They do an HTTP headers check and see what operating system/platform/browser version we're visiting Hulu from and if it's not from a desktop pc then it won't play. They do this on purpose for legal reasons. Hulu has already blocked skyfire on windows mobile (the only flash capable windows mobile browser) and they've block anonymous proxies so using a proxy hack is out of the question.
in comment to fatal1ty/jac browser/flash they were the same ones, taken from the ruu/wwe hero rom release. there was nothing different.
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The flash that comes with Hero is not the reason we can't watch Hulu on our phones. It is Hulu that is at fault. They do an HTTP headers check and see what operating system/platform/browser version we're visiting Hulu from and if it's not from a desktop pc then it won't play. They do this on purpose for legal reasons. Hulu has already blocked skyfire on windows mobile (the only flash capable windows mobile browser) and they've block anonymous proxies so using a proxy hack is out of the question.
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Well if that was the case then a simple About:debug in the browser then a change in the UA string from android to desktop would fix the problem......although this is not the case we need a better flash player UA string is a simple problem the fix.
When i go to hulu, it says error loading, check your browser and try again.. or something to that affect. Then when I refresh, it says loading FOREVER.
I think the site has put the brakes on us.
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Well if that was the case then a simple About:debug in the browser then a change in the UA string from android to desktop would fix the problem......although this is not the case we need a better flash player UA string is a simple problem the fix.
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I was trying to make it as simplified as possible. In actuality a developer has countless information about what device is visiting their page thru FLASH. Please read up Flash and private information it sends and what is capable of being requested by a dev at Hulu's side.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/privacy.html
They can find the pixel dimensions of our screen and determine we're on a mobile device. They can use the user agent string, DPI, screen resolution, and determine we're on a mobile device. There is absolutely nothing EASY we could do to trick Hulu into not knowing we're on a mobile device. So once again I will reiterate that our version of FLASH, or copy of FLASH is NOT the problem. Hulu is walking the line between legal video distribution and copyright infringement so they will do whatever it takes to keep whatever devices they want from not visiting their site. Our only hope interim would be a site that'd convert flv to perhaps html5 video tags which our browsers support.
Is the Hero flash player even capable of playing FLV? It may not support the entire Flash 9/10 specification.
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I was trying to make it as simplified as possible. In actuality a developer has countless information about what device is visiting their page thru FLASH. Please read up Flash and private information it sends and what is capable of being requested by a dev at Hulu's side.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/privacy.html
They can find the pixel dimensions of our screen and determine we're on a mobile device. They can use the user agent string, DPI, screen resolution, and determine we're on a mobile device. There is absolutely nothing EASY we could do to trick Hulu into not knowing we're on a mobile device. So once again I will reiterate that our version of FLASH, or copy of FLASH is NOT the problem. Hulu is walking the line between legal video distribution and copyright infringement so they will do whatever it takes to keep whatever devices they want from not visiting their site. Our only hope interim would be a site that'd convert flv to perhaps html5 video tags which our browsers support.
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I still don't see why a browser couldn't send false answers to these requests. I visit iPhone-only sites using the Steel browser; it might be more involved to do the same for flash conent, but possible, no? Or else, download the flash file first and then open it in Htc Flash Player?
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I just did some research, and Hulu is entirely blocking the flash player from loading for WinMo users, whereas from Hero, it is loading, just not playing video. The rumor is that Hulu is releasing a WinMo app soon, hence their desire to stop their site from being accessed otherwise. Whereas, their is no such app purported to be in the works for Android - so I believe that your theory is incorrect.
Furthering my case is the fact that the HTC Flash Player is also not working on a few other video sites that only require Flash 9. I still believe that the player just needs a little more work.
I read that flash doesnt work on opera but i can access you tube which requires flash, it says underneath the video i need flash player yet it still works why is that?
I dont think opera mini would ever support flash.
After all, opera mini is not a real browser, but it shows prerendered on server pages/images. If it supports flash in the future, it will be something like Skyfire's flash support.
I would love to have decent flash 9/10 support on Opera Mobile 9.7 (including flash video and excluding the ugly flash positioning problems that occur now). That will be something much appreciated.
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After all, opera mini is not a real browser, but it shows prerendered on server pages/images. If it supports flash in the future, it will be something like Skyfire's flash support.
I would love to have decent flash 9/10 support on Opera Mobile 9.7 (including flash video and excluding the ugly flash positioning problems that occur now). That will be something much appreciated.
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After all OperaMini is a fantastic browser.
Flash 10 was supposed to be supported soon, I remember reading this few weeks ago, by Microsoft.
I agree - that's the last element we really miss here.
OMini is kicking ass especially in slow data transfers, literally the speed is almost the same. But I doubt it will have flash....
OMobile is great only on high speeds but it eats so much data - and battery.
Anyway OM 9.7 with a real flash = amazing.
Yeah but my point is, why did it still play the you tube video even though it said i needed to instll flash 10
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Yeah but my point is, why did it still play the you tube video even though it said i needed to instll flash 10
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You need to have FlashLite 3.1 installed.
did it play within the opera mini browser or did it somehow opened the flv in an external player like.... coreplayer? otherwise, pass me the cab/jar fie of the opera version you have and i will try out
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did it play within the opera mini browser or did it somehow opened the flv in an external player like.... coreplayer? otherwise, pass me the cab/jar fie of the opera version you have and i will try out
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It always played this outside OM.
OMini Beta 5 and OperaMobile 9.7beta are available through Opera sites.
Opera mini sucks IMHO. Maybe version 5 will change that, but who knows?
I use Opera 9.5 and if a certain site crashes it, I use skyfire for it. CorePlayer handles YouTube videos perfectly.
Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to check how does skyfire allow playing of flash files?
I am watching videos on vimeo and youtube without a problem.... Its weird.... I thought this couldn't be done?
BTW I DO have Flash 10.1 installed on Captivate, but doesn't work on default browser, but everything else through their player does.....
-Ken
slider2828 said:
Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to check how does skyfire allow playing of flash files?
I am watching videos on vimeo and youtube without a problem.... Its weird.... I thought this couldn't be done?
BTW I DO have Flash 10.1 installed on Captivate, but doesn't work on default browser, but everything else through their player does.....
-Ken
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Skyfire supposed to play flash with no need of anyother software to install & I have a major problem not playing any flash on it says "Web Kit Files" missing, any help please?
I'm having the same issues...
I installed flash for 2.1 and while it will most definitely load a game off addictinggames.com i can't tap any of the buttons.
I'm more interested in using it for firstrow.net so I can watch live soccer and baseball, but everytime I direct to that site the regular browser crashes (tries to load flash app) and skyfire gives me the flash 9 exclamtion point.
has anyone had any success withgetting flash to run on this thing? I wouldn't even mind if flash lite 4 ran on it just so long as it started the video. Skyfire will load vimeo but not any others....
I can't believe that everyone else in the entrie android 2.1 community is having zero issues, but I can't find a single thread about issues... the engadget video of the desire running the flash video is so tantalizing...I want the same :-(
just so everyone knows what I have installed, I gott he flash_for_21.apk from the zip file and it installed no issue. .swf files will play in the browser...but anything that has a vimeo, tube8, or regular old flash plugin will not load. the regular browser crashes every now and then and skyfire just refuses to load it (or it notifies that there is a video to watch, and it'll buffer and the video requiring a play click won't load)
help please?! I've got my captivate rooted, sideloading, and bloatware-free, flash is my final frontier!
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I'm having the same issues...
I installed flash for 2.1 and while it will most definitely load a game off addictinggames.com i can't tap any of the buttons.
I'm more interested in using it for firstrow.net so I can watch live soccer and baseball, but everytime I direct to that site the regular browser crashes (tries to load flash app) and skyfire gives me the flash 9 exclamtion point.
has anyone had any success withgetting flash to run on this thing? I wouldn't even mind if flash lite 4 ran on it just so long as it started the video. Skyfire will load vimeo but not any others....
I can't believe that everyone else in the entrie android 2.1 community is having zero issues, but I can't find a single thread about issues... the engadget video of the desire running the flash video is so tantalizing...I want the same :-(
just so everyone knows what I have installed, I gott he flash_for_21.apk from the zip file and it installed no issue. .swf files will play in the browser...but anything that has a vimeo, tube8, or regular old flash plugin will not load. the regular browser crashes every now and then and skyfire just refuses to load it (or it notifies that there is a video to watch, and it'll buffer and the video requiring a play click won't load)
help please?! I've got my captivate rooted, sideloading, and bloatware-free, flash is my final frontier!
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Hi,
I just got a replacement brand new unit & still no flash on skyfire at all. That was my main reaon for buying this phone!!
Please let me know if something came up!
Muhamadabdelaall said:
Hi,
I just got a replacement brand new unit & still no flash on skyfire at all. That was my main reaon for buying this phone!!
Please let me know if something came up!
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That's odd, doesn't Skyfire use server-side rendering for flash and push it to the phone after compression? Just like on Windows Mobile?
I'd gotten flash videos to play on my Captivate using Skyfire, just not embedded in the page. I had to click on the little, "Video" tab on the bottom Skyfire menu and then it played.
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I'd gotten flash videos to play on my Captivate using Skyfire, just not embedded in the page. I had to click on the little, "Video" tab on the bottom Skyfire menu and then it played.
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Same here. Once I do that I can play flash video perfectly.
I can do that, but I'm much more interested in embedded flash working with browser or skyfire.
I have some more **shady** places that I can watch live sports from would be amazing if they worked
Would anyone mind trying on uastring android?
When flash first came out I could watch flash vids on ESPN.com. now I can't, I've tried on stock 91, stock 33, and cyan 6 stable. I can watch if I change ua to desktop but until recently i could easily watch them like any other site. Its sort of annoying. its definitely good I can watch them but its a hassle to keep changing to desktop. I'm stock 33 right now. The vids show up but wont play.
Bump. I realize most people around here probably don't know what ESPN.com is so forgive me maybe if I keep bumping, someone who is familiar will happen across this. Thanks
I just tested it and they play fine for me. I am running the latest nightly but I doubt that matters. When I clicked the link it asked me if I wanted to play using double twist or movies. I picked movies.
I could watch in either android mode or desktop.
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I just tested it and they play fine for me. I am running the latest nightly but I doubt that matters. When I clicked the link it asked me if I wanted to play using double twist or movies. I picked movies.
I could watch in either android mode or desktop.
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Thanks that's interesting. When I use desktop they work but don't ask what I want to use to play them. Come to think of it, when vids on ESPN used to work for me they never asked what I wanted to play them with. I wish I knew if clearing the browsers data or even wiping the phone could fix it, it would be a hassle but it'd be worth it. Oh well, its always something...thanks again
edit: they work when i have plug-ins set to "on demand", thats good enough for me i suppose
edit: now doesnt work "on demand" after the first time. This phone sure does test my patience frequently.
bump, just wondering if any issues watching espn videos have come up for anyone else? Im talking about the full site of course, not the mobile one.
Is there anyway the radio could be at fault? edit- nvm didnt work
Im grasping at straws here its just so irritating that the only website I want to use flash with is the only website I cant.
Im currently running a custom ROM and it still isnt working. Im on frg 33 but espn.com videos stopped working before I flashed it.
I am using Dolphin Browser HD and I watch the videos embedded in the page. They work great for me. The Volume buttons are set to scroll initially so you can go to the app settings and change it back so you can adjust volume while watching.
adambenjamin said:
I am using Dolphin Browser HD and I watch the videos embedded in the page. They work great for me. The Volume buttons are set to scroll initially so you can go to the app settings and change it back so you can adjust volume while watching.
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thanks thats interesting. I tried dolphin, i can watch vids on the espn mobile site but i still cant on the full site. I cant imagine what the problem could be since it spans stock/rooted, various roms, various browser apps and various radios, what the hell even remains consistent throughout all of that which could cause this? I love this phone but my technical difficulties sure are adding up...it would be cool if i at least had some number to call to get help with the $600 device i purchased. My fault though I did realize google wanted to forget the poor nexus one fairly early on...
Well, it is definitely slow to load up. I have dolphin set to Desktop UA. The page loads up. I click the flash player on-demand. The flash video box stays black for a little bit, then eventually the play button comes up and a commercial plays first. Then again the black box reappears and then the play symbol loads again. (this is with about 1mb/s connection or less). Its takes some patience, but its espn highlights on the go, for free, so I can't complain.
I also remember a newer version of flash player coming last week or maybe 2 weeks ago. You could try to uninstall and reinstall flash player.
When you say not loading, do you mean the flash area is black, or the area has an error message displayed?
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Well, it is definitely slow to load up. I have dolphin set to Desktop UA. The page loads up. I click the flash player on-demand. The flash video box stays black for a little bit, then eventually the play button comes up and a commercial plays first. Then again the black box reappears and then the play symbol loads again. (this is with about 1mb/s connection or less). Its takes some patience, but its espn highlights on the go, for free, so I can't complain.
I also remember a newer version of flash player coming last week or maybe 2 weeks ago. You could try to uninstall and reinstall flash player.
When you say not loading, do you mean the flash area is black, or the area has an error message displayed?
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i have same issue, it works on desktop but on android uastring the page loads and the first frame of the vid shows up but nothing happens
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Well, it is definitely slow to load up. I have dolphin set to Desktop UA. The page loads up. I click the flash player on-demand. The flash video box stays black for a little bit, then eventually the play button comes up and a commercial plays first. Then again the black box reappears and then the play symbol loads again. (this is with about 1mb/s connection or less). Its takes some patience, but its espn highlights on the go, for free, so I can't complain.
I also remember a newer version of flash player coming last week or maybe 2 weeks ago. You could try to uninstall and reinstall flash player.
When you say not loading, do you mean the flash area is black, or the area has an error message displayed?
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When its set to desktop I've gotten it to work. But videos on ESPN played when set to android uastring but this was with only the first couple of adobe flash versions. At some point, after some update I guess, ESPN videos stopped working...
I've been looking throughout the forums and Google and haven't found anything definitive about a browser that will enable me to watch streaming video to my HD7. I'm pretty sure adobe will eventually come with a update so IE can support it but is there currently an app browser out that supports flash? Skyfire pansied out from what I hear and doesn't support any WinMo and uZard is only for 6.x. Am I stuck with YouTube app for now?
I think no one yet. I've already searched and we should wait adobe give us flash support. i think i was better with my WinMo6.1 device and uZard Web
uZard was at most ok for now, but I would have alot of issues with it accessing sites like Facebook and being the servers from my understanding, are located in Korea. So me located in Maine, my data speed suffered greatly. I couldn't stand the bug when I would close uZard without switching back to regular mode from landscape mode. Right now I've been using YouTube App and just downloading the videos and just watching them on the player, but sometime I hate to wait. Someone needs to stick a firework in Adobe's ass. They would be making so much money with flash support for WP7!!
I don't think it's all necessarily Adobe's fault. IE on WP7 doesn't support plug-iins yet. So maybe when Mango drops, people's prayers will be answered
I do think flash will never come to windows phone, because it is a security risk! And closed OS must have a lot of security.
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