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Phone: CDMA Hero
ROM: Freshhh2.0d
Recovery Image: 1.5.2
Well the story begins:
Last week installed Freshh2.0d rom everything worked perfect...... until I tried to screw with the lock screen (tried to install vanilla lock screen and for some reason it messed the rom soon I assign password to lock screen!!) To even realize it was the lock screen I had to reboot and flash the rom several times (maybe like 8-10!!!) then finally it started working!!!
But after the last flash, I started having force close issues with several core apps, like touch screen, google apps etc..... so this morning decided to reflash the rom one last time and see if it fixes the issues.... but I feel like I have done more than just that..... here is what I have done....
1. Re-flashed Freshhh2.0d rom, after reboot got stuck at "htc" screen that comes up after all the animations
2. I wiped or did a factory reset and flashed again..... same result
3. Wiped again and this time I wanted to download the rom again and while downloading rom, I stumbled up on new recovery image 1.6.2
4. I applied new recovery image with wiped or factory reset phone, rebooted in recovery and flashed rom
5. Again stuck under htc screen after all animations....
6. Went back to recovery image 1.5.2 and flashed rom
7. After all this the net result is still same...... stuck in htc screen....... not booting the phone!!!!
Can somebody point me to the right direction???? I am even thinking about trying a different rom and see if that comes up!!!
Ok, first go back to the 1.6.2 recovery.
Next, wipe the following:
Factory Reset
Dalvik Cache
SD: EXT (if you were using apps2sd this will nuke your apps, so be sure you have a backup).
Then reflash Fresh 2.0d (or whatever ROM you want to use).
If you still have problems I recommend doing the RUU to return it to stock and start over.
Same with me I have been trying to flash fresh 20d. On my first reboot it always gets stuck on HTC screen. I'm comming from Fresh 2.0b2. Don't know what else to try. Though I can do Nandroid and get back to Fresh2.0b2
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Ok, first go back to the 1.6.2 recovery.
Next, wipe the following:
Factory Reset
Dalvik Cache
SD: EXT (if you were using apps2sd this will nuke your apps, so be sure you have a backup).
Then reflash Fresh 2.0d (or whatever ROM you want to use).
If you still have problems I recommend doing the RUU to return it to stock and start over.
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I do not have back up of my apps and I am using apps2sd, is there a way at least I can get a list of apps in my sd? I tried to do cd /data/app under shell and it won't let me ......
bigd1231 said:
Same with me I have been trying to flash fresh 20d. On my first reboot it always gets stuck on HTC screen. I'm comming from Fresh 2.0b2. Don't know what else to try. Though I can do Nandroid and get back to Fresh2.0b2
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When in doubt, always wipe before going to a new rom. When NOT in doubt, wipe anyhow.
Sure you can go to a new rom sometimes without a wipe...but 80% of the time you do much better going clean.
Also, how long have you waited on the HTC screen? I've seen that take upwards of 10 minutes.
I have waited as much as an hour. Also, I did do a Factory reset many times. I just don't know what else to try.
if none of that works. just use the right ruu for your device.
bigd1231 said:
I have waited as much as an hour. Also, I did do a Factory reset many times. I just don't know what else to try.
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Did you wipe dalvik and SD: ext as well?
You should wipe everything there's an option for.
NO I actually didn't do that I'm going to try right now and post back THANK YOU Didn't wipe SD: ext
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NO I actually didn't do that I'm going to try right now and post back THANK YOU Didn't wipe SD: ext
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Wipe all 3 again, then reflash.
Factory
Dalvik
SD: ext
Then let us know how it goes.
Your problems are caused by apps2sd... plain and simple. Fresh 2.0d's release notes tell you that you are going to have to wipe your sd:ext (as well as data wipe). That is because there were several versions of apps2sd floating around before and they aren't all compatible.
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-20d/
Secondly make sure you are using ext3 and not ext2.
http://geekfor.me/faq/apps2sd/
Yes It worked Finally. I wiped all Three and reflashed it and waited 15 mins and it worked.
yes it worked. I wiped all 3 and worked
smw6180 said:
Wipe all 3 again, then reflash.
Factory
Dalvik
SD: ext
Then let us know how it goes.
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Great! that did the trick!!!
Flipz, there is one shortcoming with 2.0d (not sure if its something inherent to the original rom itself!) When I use my corporate email on my Hero it forces me to assign password and when I do that and lock my screen phone stops responding there after. This happens when I am using vanilla screen lock update.... I can't unlock for anything.... any idea how to fix this?
Glad to hear you're both up and running.
Hi,
I'm researching flashing via CWR, ROM over ROM without flashing to Stock via ODIN. Specifically, I'm at Cog 3.02 with "base" Cognition Kernel/Modem thinking about going to Andromeda...both employ Voodoo/EXT4, so shouldn't need to disable lagfix (I think?)...
I read at this link (apologies for spaces, but I'm new so can't post actual links): h t t p : / / forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900463
a spirited debate starting about page 4 that flashing to ODIN is effectively doubling your chances for a bad flash, and that recovering a bad flash via CWM is far easier (just try re-flash again...and again(?) until fail back to trying ODIN) than recovering a bad ODIN flash.
If that's true, what prep should I do first via CWR?
1. Andromeda says requires wipe, does ROM install do this or do I do it via CWR first (wipe data/factory reset in recovery)? How 'deep' is a wipe...what do I need to save prior to this?
2. Wipe Dalvik Cache and/or wipe cache partition?
3. Save /efs folder?
4. Aside from TiBu backup to PC, am I missing anything else to save? I forgot to save my Android ID on my first flash, so it's my understanding I can only get that back via flash to Stock...I'd prefer to only go to ODIN if I have to.
Another question I had was regarding nandroid. I made a nandroid backup right after flashing to Cog. Do I really even need this? Since I haven't changed kernel/modem, wouldn't I be better off just flashing my initial Cog zip file?
Finally thanks to all who make this site kick_ss. Connexion2005's videos are indispensable for a newbie like me. People actually answer questions here, and the Devs suceed in delivering onto us a wolf in (out of the box) sheep's clothing...something AT&T and Samsung have failed to do.
Cognition 3.02 is my first and only custom ROM and DG, you have literally saved me from making my phone a brick the old fashioned way: throwing it against a wall. Running flawlessly since Jan 17th...at the same time, I am eager to see what else is out there, ***safely*** as possible.
Thanks in advance.
Since they are both ext 4 you should be ok.
The rom wipes, I clear davlik cache before flash and after, but there our no good reason as to why
Efs files, do you use kies? If so you may want to back them up, if not don't worry, I have never backed then up
Odin flash is not needed but my opinion is you should know how to use odin prior to flashing. Why panic to figure it out if something goes wrong,?
NANDROID only needed if youare going back to cog and after you have flushed the rom you want to restore settings
I think I got everything you asked
Thank you.
So really just the Dalvik cache wipe in CWR prior to.
Kies...soooo failed ever getting that working, and don't seem to need it.
Yeah I actually flashed ODIN1 unnecessarily prior to my flash to Cog. I was at stock and somehow thought ADW would mess it up...rook. I have build 1006 so good to know ODIN's there if I need it.
Re: Nandroid, but if I kept the initial zip for my flash to Cog wouldn't I just use that? Or does Nandroid do better job of ensuring good flash back to what I have right now?
Not familiar with flushing...Would I be able to restore Nandroid directly on top of ROM I'm switching off of?
Thanks again.
OP,
You'd double the chance of failure if all else were equal. I don't have statistics, but I have no doubt that failures happen far more often with odin flashes, though.
1. Andromeda says requires wipe, does ROM install do this or do I do it via CWR first (wipe data/factory reset in recovery)? How 'deep' is a wipe...what do I need to save prior to this?
2. Wipe Dalvik Cache and/or wipe cache partition?
3. Save /efs folder?
4. Aside from TiBu backup to PC, am I missing anything else to save? I forgot to save my Android ID on my first flash, so it's my understanding I can only get that back via flash to Stock...I'd prefer to only go to ODIN if I have to.
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The ROM install script does the wipe. This simply means all your apps and data will be erased (your pictures and anything on the internal and any external sdcard will not be deleted).
I never wipe the dalvik cache or cache partition before flashing. I only do that if I'm having issues like FCs (sometimes happens after a bad theme install, for example).
You probably should have backed up /efs before flashing anything, but that's not to say a backup now isn't a good idea. You only need to do this once.
If I recall, you do need to flash 2.1 to get the ID back. I'm not 100% sure there isn't another way.
WRT the nadroid backup, you don't really need it. What I do is keep 2 or 3 good CWM flashable ROMs and the CWM update.zip on my sdcard in case of problems. I also keep TiBU backup of my stuff there (which I also occasionally backup to my PC just in case my sdcard gets wiped for some reason).
One thing I would suggest is to be sure you have working button combos in case you ever need download mode (hopefully you never will, but it's always possible). If you don't have that, there is a clockwork flashable fix or you could just flash cognition or perception once and then flash whatever you want over them (you can do both flashes all without ever leaving recovery). That should fix the button combos since DG's ROMs include a good sbl.bin (I'm not a fan of that inclusion, but it is useful in this case). Since you are running Cog, I assume your download mode is already working.
Thanks opcow.
Yeah I made sure I could get into d/l and recovery mode with button combos before I even rooted.
So would you ever use a Nandroid backup if you added a different kernel/modem to a ROM? Or would you just go back to the initial zip and SGS Kernel to flash kernel/modem? I haven't done kernel flash...yet...
Madtowndave said:
Thanks opcow.
Yeah I made sure I could get into d/l and recovery mode with button combos before I even rooted.
So would you ever use a Nandroid backup if you added a different kernel/modem to a ROM? Or would you just go back to the initial zip and SGS Kernel to flash kernel/modem? I haven't done kernel flash...yet...
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If the ROM you were running when you backed up is compatible with the new kernel then I don't see why there would be a problem. I don't do it, myself, but I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I have the paid TiBU and I just use that.
Thanks again...
Yeah I bought full TiBu, so obviously that should work for the apps/data.
Did some more digging tonight and apparently Nandroid backup is ROM only, not Kernel...So seemingly would need to be on same Kernel at least to do proper Nandroid restore.
...that being the case, I guess I don't understand why people stress importance of running a Nandroid prior to and/or post ROM flash...am I missing something?
If you like a rom and set everything up but want to try another doing a nandroid allows you to restore once you flash the rom again.
Also good to run nandroid on new flash, so if you play with themes and something goes wrong you can restore
That makes sense.
Showing me newbie-ness since I haven't played around with themes yet...
...Figured I'd at least get 2nd ROM flash out the shoot before playing with kernels, modems or themes...
This thread is helpful for me. I appreciate your time.
This is along the lines of the question that I was going to post so figured would ask here. I too am considering trying out the new Andromeda. I am currently using Cog 3.04 and want to test out the new Andromeda. The TiBu I have right now is from when i was on stock as I just recently purchased this and Cog was my first flash.. Would i want to continue to use that backup when i flash to andromeda, or would it be better to run a full backup with tibu while cog is on there and then flash to andromeda and use the cog backup??
also,, from above, i could possibly just skip the step with odin and go straight to andromeda? or do I need to run odin and put it back to stock before going over to andromeda?
thanks
zug
Hey Zug,
Just flashed andromeda last night via method outlined above...did not revert to stock at all (no odin). Only issue thus far is market only showing very few installed apps under 'My Apps', but I think this is a common issue. Will research solution tonight (I did have some issues getting back all apps from TiBu, but after I restored missing apps twice and rebooted a few times they all appear to be back). Also my simi clock widget comes and goes, not sure why...might clear dalvik cache to see if that helps.
Regarding TiBu, it saves apps and data. It is not ROM specific...you just back it up, then after you flash new ROM you restore missing apps with data (do NOT restore system data).
EDIT: Resolved the My Apps Market issue (only a few were showing after flash) by going to Settings, Applications, Manage, go to Market, Clear Data, reboot. Search is my friend.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
Thanks Madtowndave.. i might give that a try.. so, since my phone is rooted and what not, i can just go to the guide and start at the portion about puting the new rom on the sd card, rebooting it and what not in recovery and select that zip and flash it right ? (well condensed version of course) and it should all be good?? guessing if this fails can always use the odin and wipe it and go back?
since i added a few new apps, guessing then that i should use tibu and go ahead and reback up everything since this rom does the master clear and then reload them right?? and hate to ask.. but how do I do the nandroid? newbie still to android and i know that just backs up the rom, but is it a app to dl from market? was fishing around in phone and didnt quite see it yet. .but figured i would do a nandroid in case i want to go back to cog.. this smart?
thnx again
zug
I think most of your questions are answered by others in this thread...
One thing I noticed last night is that I only got red (voodoo) cwm recovery menu via 3 button or long press power and reboot to recovery...when I rebooted to recovery via ROM Manager, I got the green cwm recovery menu. Not sure if this matters, but in another forum (on Vibrant phone, our sgs cousin), they said to flash ROM via the red voodoo cwm menu (since cog and andromeda both employ voodoo you can leave it enabled).
Nandroid backup you can do either from ROM manager or in cwm recovery...
Also andromeda wipes the system data, not a master clear...your data on 16 gig internal memory should not be affected, but is very good idea to backup everything to pc per the flash custom ROM guide.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
Thanks again madtown.. going to give it a try now.. as andromeda just finished DL'ing
Good luck, hope it goes smooth for you as it seemingly has for me...Feel like a bit of a heretic for not flashing to odin first...maybe I'm just lucky.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
hmm. ok. .so did the reboot to recovery and installed andromeda.. did it take a tad bit for yours to boot into the phone portion after it got to the andromeda screen?? mine seemed like it was hanging and was about to worry.. but finally booted in.. so figured would see if yours did too? .. gonna test stuff out now and restore tibu
Yeah, did for me too...and yes I was worried. Pretty sure this is very normal on first boot into new ROM in general. Like I said, TiBu was a bit cranky for me and required 2 restores and reboots...
Really enjoying this ROM, btw.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
yeh.. im still doing the install from tibu (getting paid version after tomorrow since payday since im hating have to select install for every app ) .. and then will reboot and test .. though one thing ive noticed that is diff from the video is the lock screen.. in his review it was the lock button and he swiped it up.. mine is set to a puzzle piece by default?? any idea??
edit.. k mine was a 1st time go for apps restored with tibu .this is pretty nice.. it does appear to be a lot faster/smoother than cog so far.. though the Keep the lights on app should keep my bottom buttons on all the time right? least thats what i thought i was from the video and mine seem to still fade out.. even though i hit the app and it said it was enabled..
changing unlock is in settings, display...
Dunno about lights, mine just worked. Make sure service started and reboot I guess.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
ok.. that was what it was for the lock part.. thnx .. didnt know that was there for those 4 choices.. thought only could do the none, pattern, pw etc..
everything went fine until i decided to load my contacts/sms etc from tibu.. now when i rebooted to add them, i keep getting the message "Sorry, The application Swype (processcom.swype.android.inputmethod) has stopped unexpectedly.. please try again" constantly getting things like that about swype.. any idea what happened or what i need to do?
edit.. sucked it up and re-flashed ;( will just sync contacts and deal with the ones missing for now ;(
I am running Gigglebread 7.0.2 on my T-Mobile N1. I am getting ready to go to Italy for a few weeks and wanted to see what would happen to my phone with another carrier's SIM. So, I inserted the AT&T SIM from my work blackberry and had some issues, but got it working after the APN was sorted out.
When I swapped the T-Mobile SIM back, all of my Google accounts had forgotten their credentials. I rebooted once just to see and no change. So, I thought, easy, restore nandroid from earlier in the day. The restore went fine, no errors, no wipe of cache or dalvik only now I appear to have no gapps (no market, unable to add google accounts, shortcuts on desktop don't work). Again, no problem. I've seen this before so I wiped cache and dalvik from CW 2.5.x recovery and installed dta2sd (sometimes it helps) and then 20110307 gapps. Reboot and still no gapps functionality.
So, I brought out the bigger hammer (after a couple of tries at gapps install) and wiped data/factory, dalvik, cache partition, restored nandroid, reboot. Still no gapps. Repeated the same wipe, restore nandroid, install dta2sd, install gapps, reboot. Still no gapps.
Now I'm getting desperate. Less than 72 hours till plane leaves! I next changed to AmonRA recovery and wiped, various nandroid/gapps/dta2sd combinations and still no gapps functionality.
Switched to CW 3, yeah, I know... And wiped cache, dalvik, factory/data, and even formatted system. Various installations and it still refused to install gapps.
I next tried the CW 2.x factory/data wipe, dalvik, cache, and then installed Gigglebread 7.0.2, dta2sd beta4(like always), and gapps 20110307 and rebooted. As expected, sterile phone, touch android, and then I'm prompted for google account. I skip that and sure enough, market is back and I can add google accounts.
AUGH. Unless someone has a suggestion, I'm probably going to have to do a full reinstall tomorrow. I've been wanting to do it, but not this close to a trip.
On a side note, is it normal for a swap of the SIM card to wipe out my account settings? I will make sure from now on that my TI b/u is up to date.
Rick
Infuriating as it is, especially as you must have so much to do already, a re-install might be best at this point. Trying to troubleshoot and avoid doing this could just mean more wasted time in the long run.
DirkGently1 said:
Infuriating as it is, especially as you must have so much to do already, a re-install might be best at this point. Trying to troubleshoot and avoid doing this could just mean more wasted time in the long run.
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Yup, already on that path. I fell asleep last night or I would have finished. I did manage to get a TI backup of many of my apps (gmail especially) so hopefully I won't have to set those back up again since I'm using two-factor auth on all of them (10 accounts) and don't want to go through the process of invalidating and recreating the app specific passwords again.
Rick
I am also facing the same problem now.
I was on Cyanogen Mod 7.0.3 when some application weirdly started building up data on system storage. There was only 16 KB of space left and it became un-responsive. So I restarted it, only to find the looping Cyan logo.
Fortunately I had a backup from 15 days back, which was CM 7.0.2. So, I flashed that and I thought I am back. But, I found Market was not working, in fact it was not even showing up in the app list. Also, Contacts data was wiped out and when I tried to check out the account and settings, google account option itself was not showing up.
I tried flashing 7.0.3 + latest gapps package using Rom manager, that did not work. I tried a clean wipe and flashed 7.0.2 from my backup, no effect. Then flashed latest gapps again, no change.
It is frustrating now. It looks as if google is not supporting my device anymore.
Any suggestion is welcome.
Did you check md5 from your gapps package?
You said you were using ROM manager so I suppose you are on cwm but are you on cwm 3.x or are you on cwm 2.5.1.4? If your on 3.x then downgrade if not then maybe try Amon-RA with temasek system wipe maybe just making a clean install of your recovery might fix it.
Also you might want to try flashing from recovery instead of ROM manager. Just for the fun of it.
Might also need to partition sd card again as CWM 3.0 probably fubar it.
Hi,
Im currently on ripper rom and want to chane back to wamanlite.
I understand I can do this using cwm recovery but do I need to clear any cache or data whilst doing it.
Cheers
Unless stated otheriwise by the developer I'd always wipe cache and dalvik while flashing a new ROM. This is normally
required and can be obmitted sometimes, but only when upgrading from an older ROM to a newer version of the same ROM.
HTH
almost certainly the ROM installation process will wipe cache and dalvik cache.
clearing data is a different thing, I always do it when changing ROMs just because I like to start fresh, but it's not always necessary. Always a good idea to backup first if you're going to attempt changing ROMs no matter what you do with regards to wiping partitions.
When changing between roms or upgrading to roms that are on a different base, you should always do a nandroid backup first and then do a full wipe / factory reset before flashing the new / other rom.
yuhp i currently run odin mobile so i just slam a titanium pro backup back real fast like then reboot via recovery, wipe dalvik and factory reset, the flash. once ur back in restore titanium and resync google and inabout 15-20 min you can be back to were ur were on your old version or rom and enjoying ur new one a hell of a lot faster,
btw another good tool for rom swapperes is nova launcher. especially if u have a lot of apps. because u can save ur exact layout to the cloud and refresh in less than 2 min, along with all of you personal settings and what not.
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yuhp i currently run odin mobile so i just slam a titanium pro backup back real fast like then reboot via recovery, wipe dalvik and factory reset, the flash. once ur back in restore titanium and resync google and inabout 15-20 min you can be back to were ur were on your old version or rom and enjoying ur new one a hell of a lot faster,
btw another good tool for rom swapperes is nova launcher. especially if u have a lot of apps. because u can save ur exact layout to the cloud and refresh in less than 2 min, along with all of you personal settings and what not.
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instead of copying me, you can just link to my post next time
I have a HTC ONE m7, rooted, I have been running CM11, flashing the nightlies with great success. When CM12 came out, it 'soft bricked' my phone, continuous reboots, failing android functions. was able to reinstall Titanium backup, then restore the phone to a previous point. back running, but not without bugs. after trying this 3 times, I have given up. but I read where people say, "do a wipe" then flash the ROM....... What, specifically does this mean?
yes I have rooted my phone, but I am just knowledgable to be dangerous. if It means back to factory specs, then how do I flash the rom? I think that my phone should run CM12, and maybe I need to wipe? wipe what? dalvic cache? is that a wipe?
Anybody have some ideas or can point me to some postings that may help me. Many Thanks, very tired of operating on the last build of CM11
blairan
Do a wipe typically means wipe the data, system, cache, and dalvik cache partitions. If you are using TWRP as your recovery (I do for this phone), boot into it and then press Wipe, then Advanced Wipe. Select those four (not internal storage or USB OTG) and then Swipe to Wipe. Of course, your phone won't boot at this point, so you'll need a new ROM waiting on internal storage to be flashed.
thankyou Coal, I have been trying to install a CM12 and/or a CM12.1 ROM I can get them to boot up, but play store is not present. I can access play store via themes, and it comes up as a web page rather than an app. (is this norm for CM12?)
once I sign in to play store, I try to install titanium backup to restore all my apps. it says it is installed, I press it anyway, and it says it will be installed soon, which never happens. CM12 and CM12.1 seem to be running fine, but I can't restore any of my old phone. I can recover to a CM11, but it is a little unstable, so I would like to upgrade the system and be flashing nightlies again. what do you think?
and after watching a few videos on you tube, I figured out that I was missing the Gapps file, and the supers file. enjoying lollipop success.
thanks coal!
blairan said:
and after watching a few videos on you tube, I figured out that I was missing the Gapps file, and the supers file. enjoying lollipop success.
thanks coal!
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I was going to suggest GAPPS, but I wasn't sure if you needed it for CM. Glad you figured it out!