I'm writing this so that you don't get SCAMed as I've already seen in several topics on the Accessories forum.
I know many of you would rather by OEM (myself included), yet many of you are paying full price for an imitation.
Now, there is nothing wrong with the imitation batteries on ebay, they work just as good as the real ones.
However It's just sad to see people paying like 50 times more for something that can be bought cheaply
there are honest ebay sellers that do tell you it is not the real battery, there are the type of sellers you should buy from.
not the ones adverting FAKE ones as "Real" ones.
Here they are side by side, can you tell the difference?
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It should be rather clear, ironically the FAKE one has a better build than the OEM ones.
Now look again at the pictures advertised on ebay or whatever place you should happen to buy them at
They are all the same as the fake one.
pictures taken by SGS i9000m
The 1st on the first picture and the 2nd on the second picture are the original batteries
A bit redundant if you don't tell us which and what differences to look for.
is too early to tell, i'll let more people try on their own before giving out the answer, but there are plenty of hints already
My battery is original, and looks like neither of these, yet is G7. It doesn't have a QR code for starters, but that's maybe because its a EB575152VU.
Everyone is happy with imitation batteries.. Until they overheat, melt, or have other problems. So, you need to decide if you want to take the risk. If you buy off ebay, just go 3rd party. If you want originals, go to an authorised service center or dealer.
You also say ALL fakes on eBay are that specific fake one? How can you prove this? Having sold apple equipment in the past, we found there were many different looking kinds of fakes. Many generally were similar (and that might hold for now), but it generally isn't true long-term..
Just remember, if you buy a fake, the person who made them know you are a sucker (and they aren't interested in making you happy, only making money). This means they just need it to seem plausible enough to be real (they can ship it with 1400mah, and barely anyone would notice). It can use the dodgiest cells on the planet, and as long as they take a while to die, it's ok too.
Either buy genuine from a trusted dealer, or go third party. It isn't always easy to identify counterfeits.
celeronix said:
The 1st on the first picture and the 2nd on the second picture are the original batteries
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No. Left battery looks most like mine does, applies to both pictures. Seems like that doesn't necessarily mean it's a real battery though.
At closer inspection, my battery says EB575152VU and not EB575152vu as the left battery does and mine is MADE IN CHINA / FINISHED IN KOREA, they are otherwise identical.
I'm assuming Samsung didn't supply me with a fake battery for my phone.
mickeko said:
No. Left battery is real, right battery is "fake". That applies to both pictures.
At closer inspection, my battery says EB575152VU and not EB575152vu as the left battery does, they are otherwise identical.
I'm assuming Samsung didn't supply me with a fake battery for my phone.
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No,no,no The left battery on the second picture is a 100% FAKE. Mine battery is exactly like the right one, but it doesn't have bar code
So is this real or fake ?
celeronix said:
The 1st on the first picture and the 2nd on the second picture are the original batteries
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+1 i doubt they are made in japan like its written on the fake one, they are made in china for sure.
Tehpriest said:
So is this real or fake ?
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i'm pretty sure that's a real one
Tehpriest said:
So is this real or fake ?
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Of course it's real. What do you expect? To buy a brand new phone (2-3 months only) with a fake battery. Even the chinese in eBay aren't so fast
celeronix said:
No,no,no The left battery on the second picture is a 100% FAKE. Mine battery is exactly like the right one, but it doesn't have bar code
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Well, then I got a FAKE supplied with my phone. They sure are sneaky, they even supply fake batteries to Samsung!!!
mickeko said:
Well, then I got a FAKE supplied with my phone. They sure are sneaky, they even supply fake batteries to Samsung!!!
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Oh, come on, man, I doubt it
But apart from a little bit of printing above the G7 it is identical ???
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But apart from a little bit of printing above the G7 it is identical ???
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Yepp, you have a battery that looks exactly like mine does (barring the serial#/mfgdate obviously).
Assuming all batteries Samsung supplies with the phones are exactly the same, they're BOTH fake.
I would assume the difference on model# is because that particular battery is made and finished in China while our batteries are made in china and finished in Korea. There's really nothing that says the left one is fake.
@ OP. OK now I am really confused (not difficult) Are both the one in my pic and the one I bought from eBay fake? They look identical apart from that little bit of print above the "G7"
First picture, right battery says "made in japan/made in japon/made in corea" Something is fishy there. Besides, it doesn't look like mine does.
As for the second picture, the left battery looks pretty much identical to mine. I'm assuming the batteries are not swapped simply because of that.
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@ OP. OK now I am really confused (not difficult) Are both the one in my pic and the one I bought from eBay fake? They look identical apart from that little bit of print above the "G7"
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think about
what mickeko said
and celeronix said
A straight answer would be helpful please or I will assume your just flaming. The two you refer to seem to say both fake and real. So I respectfully ask again are both my and the eBay pictures of fake batteries?
The batteries supplied with your phone are real.
But, honestly, this discussion is a waste of time anyway, because fakes aren't always obvious.. The assumption that they always look the same is wrong
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Got an email from clove.co.uk telling me these bad boys are now shipping.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=6C9DA87E-F55C-4BE1-ACD7-3AC07A7E6635
Just ordered one
that battery is the worst decision made by htc...ever, but if you dont mind the buldge, congrats.
The added bulk is no issue for me. I used to have a jasjam with an aftermarket extended battery. Now THAT was ugly! I actually like the look of the HD2 battery.
Could you post some good quality photos with it on and off the phone when you get it.
Cheers chap
Have you used it by now ?
What are your thoughts on it ?
especially one with you holding it in your hand, please.
just want to see its size in relation to your fingers.
Krisbo said:
Got an email from clove.co.uk telling me these bad boys are now shipping.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=6C9DA87E-F55C-4BE1-ACD7-3AC07A7E6635
Just ordered one
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If you are referring to the non-HTC one, beware of the cover being unable to lock to the device body. I had one from them and have since returned it to them. Till now the replacement hasn't come in yet.
While I'm waiting, I have already ordered the one from Mugen power. Just received it two days ago. It's too early to comment on the battery capacity but at least the cover locks well to the device body.
Ordered the HTC one with kickstand from mobilefun as clove were out of stock last week.
I've got an O2 Leo, and charging the battery resulted in the LED flashing green and amber indicating a problem.
So I've sent the battery back and should get a new one this week.
However, the battery may have been ok.
Others have reported charging problems with the larger battery on the O2 stock ROM, which is resolved by applying the latest O2 ROM from HTC.
My Leo now has this so fingers crossed when the replacement battery arrives I'll be ok.
I want to order from them as well but sadly enough they dont accept paypal does anyone know of a store selling these batteries and accept paypal payments ?
Try your luck on eBay
There you go. That's the only one original one on eBay. Including shipping it comes up to $67.00
That's pretty expensive, but then again, the Mugen one costs the same.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-HTC-HD2...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19bd163ef1
leepriestenator said:
There you go. That's the only one original one on eBay. Including shipping it comes up to $67.00
That's pretty expensive, but then again, the Mugen one costs the same.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-HTC-HD2...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19bd163ef1
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Just got the same one as the link you have posted, yesterday. Charged it for the first time overnight yesterday, & been using it since this morning at 6am, now it's almost 6pm in my timezone, and the battery is now at 69%... And I am a heavy user - lotsa of calls (100-150mins) / smses (50-80) / mmses(10-15) during work, 3G connection always on, pushmail, twittering, photo-taking (10-20), always fiddling around...blah-blah... Usually, with my standard 1230mah battery, after 12 hours, I'm down to 15-20% with similar usage.
Here are some pics I just took of my BP-E400, and some together with its much slimmer brother.
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And I must say that htcacc's response & service is outstanding & quick. Their sales manager, James is excellent!
Flying out and back to Sharm El Sheikh, the kickstand worked great, holding the phone at the right angle on the seatback table.
coolfire said:
Just got the same one as the link you have posted, yesterday. Charged it for the first time overnight yesterday, & been using it since this morning at 6am, now it's almost 6pm in my timezone, and the battery is now at 69%... And I am a heavy user - lotsa of calls (100-150mins) / smses (50-80) / mmses(10-15) during work, 3G connection always on, pushmail, twittering, photo-taking (10-20), always fiddling around...blah-blah... Usually, with my standard 1230mah battery, after 12 hours, I'm down to 15-20% with similar usage.
Here are some pics I just took of my BP-E400, and some together with its much slimmer brother. ...
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Hi bro, where in sg did you bought this? how much btw? local boy here too. might be interested to get.
wangiles said:
Hi bro, where in sg did you bought this? how much btw? local boy here too. might be interested to get.
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Not to thread-crap, but here's James' email: Email:[email protected]
Otherwise, you may click on the link provided by exlixx earlier.
My bad. Didnt realize that you've bought it through ebay. Thought you could get locally. Thanks anyway.
Great photos!
Probably the clearest photos I have seen till date for the extended battery.
How good is the kickstand though?
I know it locks into place but is it something that might get loose and start to dangle over time?
Is there any tension for it at the joint connecting it to the battery cover or does it just flail about once it's been un-latched?
Just ordered one .
leepriestenator said:
Great photos!
Probably the clearest photos I have seen till date for the extended battery.
How good is the kickstand though?
I know it locks into place but is it something that might get loose and start to dangle over time?
Is there any tension for it at the joint connecting it to the battery cover or does it just flail about once it's been un-latched?
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Thank you for your kind words, buddy.
I think imho, the kickstand is really good. With some kinda spring-action-cum-tension, it actually flicks and locks into place, into something like an in-built groove beneath...If that makes sense..lol Oh, and it doesn't flail around too.
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Just ordered one .
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You're gonna be happy with it!
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I rarely find accessories for my HD2 but this one I couldn't pass up for $50 in fact. It is a one of a kind battery pack which is similar to the Mophie for my iPhone that I have used before. Wow?
Anyone else seen this one particular "extended battery?"
Check this one with a landscape kickstand
HTC HD2 extended battery with Kickstand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWuyW1J4D4
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/video-htc-hd2-extended-battery-w-kickstand
isn't the phone heavy enough already? how much weight does that battery add? I like to carry the phone in my pocket all the time. Also I assume I can't use the standard case once this battery is installed.
Any idea what the battery capacity is?
How easy is it to install and remove?
Can you give us a SKU, part number, model number, or anything else to search with?
Thanks, and great find!
It's actually a case with a battery inside.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=45593&cat=4862
very quick and small review of the product somewhere in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723233
I actually have this product. It's not bad, but does add a large amount of "bulk" to the phone. It's not heavy at all. In my experience, it will give you about 60% of a charge when fully charged itself. Meaning if you turn it on when your battery is at around 10%, it'll jump to about 70%, and pretty quickly I might add. I wouldn't leave it in your pocket while it's running though as it does tend to heat up a bit.
Beware
I found them on ebay for $35 from a vendor in Hong Kong.Remember that if you have a dock it won't fit into it with the new battery cover,also I don't know of any phone cases for a phone with the larger battery door.Just an fyi.Also it is not T-Mobile branded.Do google search for htc hd2 battery and follow ebay result.(unable to post link)
jb2750 said:
I found them on ebay for $35 from a vendor in Hong Kong.Remember that if you have a dock it won't fit into it with the new battery cover,also I don't know of any phone cases for a phone with the larger battery door.Just an fyi.Also it is not T-Mobile branded.Do google search for htc hd2 battery and follow ebay result.(unable to post link)
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This product you're talking about is not what this thread is about at all. We're talking about a case that carries a battery charge that can be switched on and off and leaves the phone it's original state. And it IS T-mobile branded.
yukks. my original extended battery looks more clean and handy , !!
The only difference to the standard one is three lights(?) http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195058 (this is NOT limited to the UK because the link shows the UK, checked and at least they sell it in Sweden too, so they probably sell it anywhere)
Do you have a picture that actually shows how it looks? :S
tids2k said:
yukks. my original extended battery looks more clean and handy , !!
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Who cares? this thread is not a "look, my battery is better than yours and cleaner than your" kinda thread. the 500+ comments you have serve for nothing I guess.
im confused, the website states "Compatible with T-Mobile HTC HD2 (not compatible with International version HD2)." however in the picture there is a european hd2. Any ideas?
I never noticed that. It certainly doesn't have the colored send and end keys of the TmoUS HD2. Given that one is taller than the other, I doubt this could fit both versions. My guess is that the photos are of a prototype or preproduction TmoUS HD2.
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im confused, the website states "Compatible with T-Mobile HTC HD2 (not compatible with International version HD2)." however in the picture there is a european hd2. Any ideas?
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Really, it should be compatible with all versions! There is only a 1.5mm height difference (TMOUS is taller) , and in a hard case like this, it's not really going to matter, is it?
HTC Protective Cover with Battery Boost
I got mine at a franchised T-Mobile store for 50% off. Approx. $25
No instructions. Has switch on back to actually recharge internal battery from external battery. Indicator lights tell you external battery is fully charged. USB connection is pass thru for charging only (no Data). According to amazon it will NOT work on UK HD2.
I also found it at Amazon: Serach
"OEM T-Mobile Protective Cover w/ Battery Boost for HTC HD2"
or Part No: "SUPA33967"
I'll be using it while in the hospital while recovering from knee surgery.
(Quad Tendon Tear) Ouch!!!
I'll use it to give myself data access for my iPad. And of course as a telephone.
To be honest, I think I'd rather get the extended battery & case from HTC website, at least you know what you're getting that way.
jjones1983 said:
I actually have this product. It's not bad, but does add a large amount of "bulk" to the phone. It's not heavy at all. In my experience, it will give you about 60% of a charge when fully charged itself. Meaning if you turn it on when your battery is at around 10%, it'll jump to about 70%, and pretty quickly I might add. I wouldn't leave it in your pocket while it's running though as it does tend to heat up a bit.
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I just received one this afternoon...you're so right, my data is 57%.
But, it has a serious problem:
when you install it on HD2, then you can't sync the phone with PC!!!
is this for real? here is the link :
http://www.lelong.com.my/htc-touch-...o-battery-3000mah-75157308-2010-12-Sale-P.htm
ive asked the selller too and they are confirmed that the extended battery is for htc hd2 t8585. So my questions are:
1. Is this a real product or just a scam? because when i googled, there is no such thing as 3000mah extended battery for htc hd2. i even searched the forum too.. no such topic found >.<
2. Since there is no type of brand mentioned, is it safe? i don't want a leaking battery or an explosive on my pocket. So is the battery safe? how do i check before i buy it? any method of checking it?
3. is there any effect on my os? like compatibility issue or anything? eg : im using dezire z build.
4. any opinion or suggession on extended battery? im from malaysia btw.
1/ That is a REAL physical product, but it may work, it may not, or it may destroy your phone, lol. No one can ensure about its quality.
2/ Look at 1/
3/You must try it yourself, because there are around 10000 factories around the world can manufacture that kind of product, and I assume less than 0.1% of them are certificated by HTC! Someone would use the same looking battery at yours, but how can you ensure yours and his were from the same factory?
4/ I've seen on Ebay some sellers advertise that they selling the genuine extended battery (BP E400 2300MAH). Hope those aren't fake products but who knows?
My experience: I'm using a Duracel External Power 1000mAh (similar to Enegizer Xpal Power 1000) for emergency recharge. It doesn't look cool but at least it's cheaper and safer for my hd2.
The guy couldn't even attach the right photo to the auction. It is not an HD2.
I would rather buy these. Tried them both, the official gives more juice, but the other one doesn't make the phone that thick and is a lot cheaper.
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RicarduZonta said:
The guy couldn't even attach the right photo to the auction. It is not an HD2.
I would rather buy these. Tried them both, the official gives more juice, but the other one doesn't make the phone that thick and is a lot cheaper.
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Wow! how much is that? Does it work for android and WinMo?
Without even making this thread, don't you think it's a little weird that the image shown is clearly not an HD2 ?
They both work on winmo and Android. Some roms might have problems dealing with extended battery support.
Official around 25GBP on ebay, used to be more than 40GBP
The one from China 7-11GBP on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EXTENDED-HIGH...sAccessories_PDABatteries&hash=item3f02604bf4
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-HTC-B...850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb00db4aa
Official is 2300Mah, the cheaper one has 2400Mah written on it, but I doubt that, coz it is slimmer and the official lasts longer for me.
I started seeing the cheaper one with 2600Mah on it on ebay, that must be fake if the size is the same. But if you put this fact aside it is a decent battery with a nice rubbery feel cover which fits perfectly. Kicstand broke glued it in normal position.
RicarduZonta said:
They both work on winmo and Android. Some roms might have problems dealing with extended battery support.
Official around 25GBP on ebay, used to be more than 40GBP
The one from China 7-11GBP on ebay
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u7Z8uxQ8S...Q/HjkvolONpG0/s320/hd2-battery-02-05-2010.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-HTC-B...850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb00db4aa
Official is 2300Mah, the cheaper one has 2400Mah written on it, but I doubt that, coz it is slimmer and the official lasts longer for me.
I started seeing the cheaper one with 2600Mah on it on ebay, that must be fake if the size is the same. But if you put this fact aside it is a decent battery with a nice rubbery feel cover which fits perfectly. Kicstand broke glued it in normal position.
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Thanks for the reply! ssorrg my thanks meter is full! its because I wanna get a HD2 do bad but i need and extended battery!
Actally i meant to say, sill this work on WP7? coz i heard it has diffrrnet drivers and stuff.
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Without even making this thread, don't you think it's a little weird that the image shown is clearly not an HD2 ?
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yah that why i ask.. cuz the photo looks wired too.. lol.. doesnt seems like hd2 tho..
haxlidinh said:
1/ That is a REAL physical product, but it may work, it may not, or it may destroy your phone, lol. No one can ensure about its quality.
2/ Look at 1/
3/You must try it yourself, because there are around 10000 factories around the world can manufacture that kind of product, and I assume less than 0.1% of them are certificated by HTC! Someone would use the same looking battery at yours, but how can you ensure yours and his were from the same factory?
4/ I've seen on Ebay some sellers advertise that they selling the genuine extended battery (BP E400 2300MAH). Hope those aren't fake products but who knows?
My experience: I'm using a Duracel External Power 1000mAh (similar to Enegizer Xpal Power 1000) for emergency recharge. It doesn't look cool but at least it's cheaper and safer for my hd2.
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nice info with specific item mentioned.. i'll try this i think..
RicarduZonta said:
The guy couldn't even attach the right photo to the auction. It is not an HD2.
I would rather buy these. Tried them both, the official gives more juice, but the other one doesn't make the phone that thick and is a lot cheaper.
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is it the official one? any specific detail on it would be nicer.. ^.^
olyloh6696 said:
Thanks for the reply! ssorrg my thanks meter is full! its because I wanna get a HD2 do bad but i need and extended battery!
Actally i meant to say, sill this work on WP7? coz i heard it has diffrrnet drivers and stuff.
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Haven't tried wp7 yet. For me android development just got to the stage I was dreaming about. No issues/bugs for me with MDJ HD4.6+hastarin. I am gonna wait a lot before trying wp7. Again the official one works just fine, 2 days, accurate %drain details and it costs 25GBP.
If it is not compatible with your fav android rom, you can sell it and use 2 stock size original batteries which isn't that convenient but still better than a built in non removable battery what lots have in a phone I don't even want to talk about :-D
I dont recommend the china cheapo's. They have magical mah. Why? Because they dont really last that longer. I bought one from ebay, and the kickstand brke like 5 minutes after i took it out from the packaging. And, it looks fugly. After that, i bought the official one from ebay, and it works great. Only problem is, android needs eb drivers for it to work, but in wp7 it works (crazily, but it does xD).
I stand on the OEM side as well.
There is an another option to consider if you have money.
The mugen 2600Mah battery for hd2 which is a quality product for 69.99 dollars.
RicarduZonta said:
I stand on the OEM side as well.
There is an another option to consider if you have money.
The mugen 2600Mah battery for hd2 which is a quality product for 69.99 dollars.
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That's 16% of the Device's cost !
Does it make my phone fly ? .. I mean I'm not buying a power mat, it's just a battery ! It shouldn't be that expensive
So does anyone have those battery I thought of buying one, but I'm not sure is wort of spending so much money on them, but Htc really made mistake with battery of 123omAh for HD2
I have bought the 2600mAh mugen battery together with the extended battery case. so far this battery is giving me around 3 days of continous use with me running android off the sd card. on wino 6.5 i was getting around 4 days.
the build quality on the case is questionable though as the clips on it have already cracked after 3 days of use. mugen have been good replying and they will send me another at no extra cost.!!
As for me the extended battery i bought was very cheap and it works very well. The only drawback is that winsmob doesn't show the actual amount of battery i have left. This doesn't seem to be the problem while using android on sd card. One needs to pull the battery in order to make the phone know the battery still has a lot to give.
I was able to go 2 day and like 4 hours.
I played game for more than 2 hours, listened to music for more than 4 hours and surfed a little bit. As far as i can tell, this result is acceptable. I bought the battery for 7.49 euros in total.
Hey jzack,
when it comes to batteries I recoment always to be careful. There are a lot of products out there not working properly. BUT: most replacement batteries (for all kind of electronics) work just fine, for a while. They really do. What's wrong with them is not that they are not working... it's the specs!
First: Nearly none of them have the capacity with which they are labeled. Take at least a third off, that's the real value for capacity with most noname products.
Second: They do not last very long in most of the cases. Since Batteries are build nearly all the same, the quality of the materials & chemicals and the quality of maufacturing makes the difference! Now try to imagine how good noname products are at these points!
Third: In many cases the Phone is not correctly reading the charge, so it is sometimes worth the money bying original stuff. Not having the correct leftover of energy on my screen is a no go for me.
In a nutshell: you can by "cheapos" anytime, with a little bit of risk of course. They will do good for a while.. or not. If they last half a year fo 5$, it's ok. They also could be down to half the capacity after 3-4 month... then buy new ones, since they are so cheap! (which is not the most ecological way I think)
I personally would rather buy 1 or 2 of the standard HTC batteries (or brandname standards) and swap 'em. One always in the bag, one in the car...or in the office... whatever. They are strong, keep the capacity up for a long time and do not cost too much.
Swapping is easy, many HD2 cradles with spare battery charge function are out there on ebay and the Phone itself stays sleek (the bigger battery cover makes it so ugly!) and it still fits in the sleeve/case or pocket. All stays like it is, you just add 1 or 2 spares. And a quick boot for a battery swap isn't really an issue now, is it?
I like that solution much more. But that's probably just me...
hope this helps a bit,
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Dont buy crap..
I saw this a few days ago from a youtube..It seems pretty interesting..And for 50$,its much better than your 3000mah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-GuCwssMs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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I saw this a few days ago from a youtube..It seems pretty interesting..And for 50$,its much better than your 3000mah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-GuCwssMs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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I believe that case is for the HD7, not the HD2.
I was just wondering whether the wireless charging receivers for the Note 3 can be used for the Note 4. Does anybody know?
No... They aren't the same - unfortunately
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I was just wondering whether the wireless charging receivers for the Note 3 can be used for the Note 4. Does anybody know?
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No... They aren't the same - unfortunately
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It took a little digging, but I finally found it! Ready for pre-order here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OFKS4WM
Mind you, there is a warning that it may interfere with NFC and S-View functions of the Note 4!
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I was just wondering whether the wireless charging receivers for the Note 3 can be used for the Note 4. Does anybody know?
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Of course not. Do you honestly think for one second that Sammy, or any manufacturer, would let you use the same accessories without buying new ones? Lol [emoji12]
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It took a little digging, but I finally found it! Ready for pre-order here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OFKS4WM
Mind you, there is a warning that it may interfere with NFC and S-View functions of the Note 4!
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Output is just 600mA... That's a piece of crap and really expensive... I always get 1000mA pads for $8-$12 on ebay... (usually are blue too, but with 1000mA... Honestly... Done it Already for the Note 2 & 3... Still waiting this year for them to show up on ebay...As soon as I see them, will post link... Promess... Don't buy those...
Here is a spare one I have as proof...
http://tekhd.com/images/20141014_223015.jpg
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Output is just 600mA... That's a piece of crap and really expensive... I always get 1000mA pads for $8-$12 on ebay... (usually are blue too, but with 1000mA... Honestly... Done it Already for the Note 2 & 3... Still waiting this year for them to show up on ebay...As soon as I see them, will post link... Promess... Don't buy those...
Here is a spare one I have as proof...
http://tekhd.com/images/20141014_223015.jpg
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Too bad stock limits charging to 460mA. With cm or different kernel can bump that up to about 700mA. I wish the phones could go up to 1000mA when wirelessly charging.
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Of course not. Do you honestly think for one second that Sammy, or any manufacturer, would let you use the same accessories without buying new ones? Lol [emoji12]
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Well, I guess it was wishful thinking.
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Well, I guess it was wishful thinking.
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I was joking when I said that. Didn't mean to sound like a jerk. Just so you know. [emoji2]
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Output is just 600mA... That's a piece of crap and really expensive... I always get 1000mA pads for $8-$12 on ebay... (usually are blue too, but with 1000mA... Honestly... Done it Already for the Note 2 & 3... Still waiting this year for them to show up on ebay...As soon as I see them, will post link... Promess... Don't buy those...
Here is a spare one I have as proof...
http://tekhd.com/images/20141014_223015.jpg
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It's too late, I already ordered one, lol!
jyan_osu said:
Too bad stock limits charging to 460mA. With cm or different kernel can bump that up to about 700mA. I wish the phones could go up to 1000mA when wirelessly charging.
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Hmmm, if what you are saying is correct, then except for price I didn't do so bad! I'm not sure if I will be flashing any custom ROMs or kernels, but it is something to consider just to get wireless charging a little faster. Why is there a limit, is it due to safety issues?
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It's too late, I already ordered one, lol!
Hmmm, if what you are saying is correct, then except for price I didn't do so bad! I'm not sure if I will be flashing any custom ROMs or kernels, but it is something to consider just to get wireless charging a little faster. Why is there a limit, is it due to safety issues?
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Actually there was a Kernel for the Note 2 that was modified to 850mA... Anyway... That's a really good question about the limit... Also, if you get the 1000mA pad you also have to make sure that the charging station also gets to at least 1000mA... (almost all of the cheap ones on Ebay also go up to 1000mA) But that's something to consider... In case you get the 1000mA receiver pad but your station is just 700mA...
Also @RaymondPJR...
If you got it thru amazon, you can just cancel order... Go to my orders on Amazon and you will se a Cancel button... Specifically on orders that will not ship until later... (credit card is also not charged until shipment) Just a hint that you probably already know... in case you really want to cancel...
I am 100% sure the pads I am talking about will show up really soon on ebay. I am a huge fan of wireless charging... Lol
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Actually there was a Kernel for the Note 2 that was modified to 850mA... Anyway... That's a really good question about the limit... Also, if you get the 1000mA pad you also have to make sure that the charging station also gets to at least 1000mA... (almost all of the cheap ones on Ebay also go up to 1000mA) But that's something to consider... In case you get the 1000mA receiver pad but your station is just 700mA...
Also @RaymondPJR...
If you got it thru amazon, you can just cancel order... Go to my orders on Amazon and you will se a Cancel button... Specifically on orders that will not ship until later... (credit card is also not charged until shipment) Just a hint that you probably already know... in case you really want to cancel...
I am 100% sure the pads I am talking about will show up really soon on ebay. I am a huge fan of wireless charging... Lol
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Back in the day I did my own Wireless charging mod for my S3 and bought a receiver pad from Verizon. It was for one of the Lumias, I think. It shouldn't be too hard to find out what it's limit is, although I suspect it would be at the lower level. I think I'll just keep the order, however, I don't mind what Ive paid for it.
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You know how Sammy is. The phones accessories aren't compatible with each other (For money of course). The batteries are all different shapes and sizes so that no battery can be used on another Galaxy phone.
So no, they aren't compatible.
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Actually there was a Kernel for the Note 2 that was modified to 850mA... Anyway... That's a really good question about the limit... Also, if you get the 1000mA pad you also have to make sure that the charging station also gets to at least 1000mA... (almost all of the cheap ones on Ebay also go up to 1000mA) But that's something to consider... In case you get the 1000mA receiver pad but your station is just 700mA...
Also @RaymondPJR...
If you got it thru amazon, you can just cancel order... Go to my orders on Amazon and you will se a Cancel button... Specifically on orders that will not ship until later... (credit card is also not charged until shipment) Just a hint that you probably already know... in case you really want to cancel...
I am 100% sure the pads I am talking about will show up really soon on ebay. I am a huge fan of wireless charging... Lol
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I'm having a change of heart since I saw a totally round Qi charging puck for only $22.00! It's beautiful although I haven't looked up it's specs yet. If development were moving faster it would be easy. Here's to a successful custom recovery real soon !!!
A promise is a promise...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Qi...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item4ade55f410
1000mA $9.68, already ordered one...
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A promise is a promise...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Qi...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item4ade55f410
1000mA $9.68, already ordered one...
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So, it wouldn't matter if my charging puck is only 750mA; I can use this one and get a max of 750mA? What are the shipping time and charges for this?
EDIT: What...free shipping? How long?
Hi folks, this is my first post on this forum and I thought I’d share with you a recent misadventure of mine.
Since the Galaxy Note 4 is currently not being sold without a contract in my area, it created some kind of a parallel market for people getting the device by using their actual contract and then reselling it on classifieds websites like craigslist or kijiji.
Being the impulsive buyer that I am, I took the chance of buying one from one of those people. I met the guy in a parking lot, inspected the device quickly but still took the time to google the model number that was showed in the About Phone screen which checked out ok. It turns out I should have paid attention to more than the model number… As it turns out, I bought a fake Galaxy Note 4 for the full price of a genuine one.
What first tipped me off was when I got home I opened the box and saw that the phone apparently turned itself back on during transport and was displaying this screen:
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I thought to myself “Uh oh… this is not good”. A hard reboot made it disappear but after investigating, i realized that what I had in my hand was a very good knock off of Samsung’s famous Galaxy Note 4.
Needless to say, the seller was not reachable anymore….So to make a long story short, I ended up going to the store and bought a brand new (genuine) one that I had to put on a contract.
So now that I have the two devices in my hands, I thought of making a list of differences and post them here. It is to be noted that the real one that I bought is the SM-N910W8 which is the canadian version, while the fake one is labeled as the SM-N910F which I believe would refer to the US version. So keep in mind that some of these differences might be due to the different geographical versions that I have….but I doubt it. Feel free to correct me.
So here it is:
The Box: the main difference that I noticed was that the real one had a mention that it was printed in Vietnam. The fake one didn’t mention any printed location. The box’s color is closer to beige than white on the fake one.
On the first look: they appear to be carbon copies, although the fake one seems to be of a less bring white than the real one. But you would need to have the two sitting next to each other to notice this.
The battery: Other than text layout, the differences are that the real one states that it’s made in korea but assembled in Vietnam while the fake one is made in Japan. The voltage too is slightly different, 3.85v for the real one, 3.7 for the fake.
Behind the cover: there are a few noticeable differences here, first the real one has some kind of a small white square insert behind the battery while the fake doesn’t. Also there is some greenish color on the SIM and SDCARD bezels on the fake one while the real one’s are silver. But the dead giveaway here is that on the fake one, the IMEI number printed on the back sticker did not even match the one in the About Phone screen in settings.
The Cover: the inside of the cover’s colours don’t quite match as you can see here
Apps & OS: This is where the differences become more obvious. First of all the fake one doesn’t have KNOX and all the samsung bloatware. Also, some stupid misspellings are visible here and there, like for instance instead of Messages it says Messagin. Also, instead of Internet it says Browser.
The About Phone/Device screen in settings: Again, the differences here are obvious. First of all the real one has a white and blue theme and is labeled About Device while the fake one as an older black and white theme and is labeled About Phone. Then that’s where you can clearly see that the Baseband version is not an original Samsung one. Same thing for the Kernel.
Other than that, I noticed that the two capacitive buttons on each side of the home button don’t seem to light up on the fake one. And generally speaking, the fake one is slower than the real one. I didn’t go as far as running some benchmark apps on it but I am sure it would not score anywhere near the real Samsung Note 4.
Sorry man that really sucks. Good for posting the info and glad you have a real phone. Lessons learned, maybe the hard way but no one got hurt....unless you run into that guy again :/
Uhhhhhh
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To bad that happend to to you bro, glad to see your trying to help everyone by posting this and you could at least finally get a real Note 4
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Pity you. You shall able to know it is fake when you seen the settings in black background. That part is too obvious it is fake.
Damn man that sucks.
Least you're showing everyone what to avoid and what not. Didn't even think there would be a fake version of the N4 heh
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Guys I'm devastated by this myself as I just got one myself. I thought I was going to get a gift for my wife and found out from this post that this is a fake Note 4 I'm holding in my hand. This is just too unfair to the world. Just not right for these crooks to do something like that. Can we contact our local police department if we have their number?
What a sad sad day
Bummer for you, but no news to me to be honest, every popular model have Chinese fakes within weeks after release. Same with Iphone, Galaxy S5 etc etc. Lots of them on ebay and other online markets. And yes they are very easy to identify when you turn them on. If you buy one on a parking lot and don't switch it on and test it with a SIM, before handing money you ask for being ripped off. When ordering online and you are not able to test make sure you use a credit card so you some form of insurance. Kind of confused people still fall for these clones. It's common knowledge.
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Bummer for you, but no news to me to be honest, every popular model have Chinese fakes within weeks after release. Same with Iphone, Galaxy S5 etc etc. Lots of them on ebay and other online markets. And yes they are very easy to identify when you turn them on. If you buy one on a parking lot and don't switch it on and test it with a SIM, before handing money you ask for being ripped off. When ordering online and you are not able to test make sure you use a credit card so you some form of insurance. Kind of confused people still fall for these clones. It's common knowledge.
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Does if have a AMOLED screen too? If not i would have regonized it in a sec, i buy Samsung phones mostly for the amazing screen The fake note 3 i almost bought (in the netherlands) had a lower resolution too. This fake note 4 dont have a 1440p screen i guess, more like 1080p or even 720p...
Check aliexpress note 4 for 150 dollars ... your fake one is in bad french "funny"
I feel your pain and I am sorry for you.
When the Galaxy S3 was released, the market everywhere in the world was flooded with fake devices very quickly. I created an app that was able to identify fake S3 and report it to the user. It became quite popular on Play Store with 50k+ downloads.
I think it is about time I create something similar for the Note 4. It may not be much, but it will help users like you instantly identity fake devices regardless of what they look like on the outside.
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I feel your pain and I am sorry for you.
When the Galaxy S3 was released, the market everywhere in the world was flooded with fake devices very quickly. I created an app that was able to identify fake S3 and report it to the user. It became quite popular on Play Store with 50k+ downloads.
I think it is about time I create something similar for the Note 4. It may not be much, but it will help users like you instantly identity fake devices regardless of what they look like on the outside.
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That would be a wonderful idea!
Best method to know original is to go to download mode volume down + home key + power button & check the knox status
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Oh man.... That's suck... You should have bought on Amazon, which is protected by A to Z policy...
I can't even imagine your frustration... Is there any possible way you can contact the seller?
Either way, great post to let everyone to know about the fake note 4...
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Best method to know original is to go to download mode volume down + home key + power button & check the knox status
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Most them fakes don't even have a proper download mode. My sister got scammed with a fake s4 and the download combination drops it into recovery which, apart from the crappy screen, were dead giveaways for me.
Yup that's the exact way to differentiate.Sad op was unaware & suffered the loss
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This reminds us. If the deal is just too good to be true, it's too good to be true.
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This reminds us. If the deal is just too good to be true, it's too good to be true.
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How was it "too good to be true"? sorry I dont get the comment.
Edit: At least have the courtesy of reading the first post.
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I bought a fake Galaxy Note 4 for the full price of a genuine one.
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I am selling my Note4 BNIB & I am selling it from my home address with proof of purchase & also proof of identity.
In the UK lots of people are getting caught by people that later report it stolen to collect the insurance, sometimes months later your handset gets blocked.
They always want to meet up in parking lots ETC
It's good advice to never buy a phone somewhere like that.
Sorry to hear you learned the hard way.
Out of curiosity, did you buy this from Toronto/Mississauga? There was an ad on Kijiji that was selling SM-N910F and I offered him $650. He didn't even hostage to take it. He had asked me to meet him at a parking lot as well.