So I have my Macbook on my local Craigslist, a buy/sell/trade site here in the States. This site has been plagued with an influx of fake people with fake money sending around fake PayPal emails.
Unfortunately, I'm all to familiar with these scams, which all seem to originate from Nigeria. Here's my most recent exchange:
I am interested in this item,is it still available for sale?get back
as soon as possible.
Richie Mo ,
[email protected].
768-098-0981
Thanks.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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Of course, it's a fake number...
Since your number is from Wisconsin, you can look at my eBay listing. I will not ship the product outside of eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476416750&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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THIS IS THE THING TO LOOK OUT FOR: (I was listed below $2000)
Thanks for the urgent response,with a good condition of this item and i am okay with the price,i will like to purchase it for someone ,i will offer you $2100usd and $100usd for the shipping through USPS(EMS) and i cannot make cash for this transactions due to nature of my job as a doctor.Therefore it will be very easy for to make payment for this item via paypal just because registered with them,i will like you to get back to me with your registered paypal email account for the payment of the item.
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I will be willing to use PayPal, but only through the Buy It Now feature of eBay. Follow this link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476610985&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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just give me your paypal id now i will make the payment.thanks
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Why are you so against using eBay?
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ebay is very stressful that is why i decided to buy on craiglist,so i will like you to get back to me with your paypal id for the payment.thanks
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So I decided to have some fun. Already knew it was fake:
My paypal is the same as this email address. I will ship as soon as I can see the money in my account, and have successfully transferred it to my bank account.
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ok,i will make the payment now.thanks
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Dear Sean *********@gmail.com,
You've got a funds of $2,200.00 USD from Richie Mo ([email protected]),
Thanks for using PayPal. To see all the transaction details, log in to your PayPal account.
It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account please follow the new PayPal policy.
Seller
*********@gmail.com, Note to seller
Please get the Item ship out today asap through USPS (EMS).
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Transaction ID: 0TR19308DU070732T
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Macbook Pro 17 inch
$2,100.00 USD 1
$2,100.00 USD
Shipment Fees :
$100.00USD
Total $2,200.00 USD
Issues with this transaction.
This is to inform you that you are required to ship the item to the address above via USPS (EMS) and get back to us with the relevant information which you will be provided at the post office after the package has been shipped, you are requested to email us the tracking number.
As soon as we have received the details from you, we will credit a sum of $2,200.00 USD to your PayPal account.
Below is the address where the buyer like the item ship out to.
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Please note:
We wish to inform you that [email protected] has made the payment of $2,200.00 USD to your account and the money is still in pending and we mandated you to ship the item before your account will be credited with the total sum of $2,200.00 USD.
This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited into your account until the shipment tracking number that will be given to you at the Post Office after you send the package send to us for the verification at our customer care:[email protected] as to secure both the buyer and the seller.
Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited:
All you have to do is to reply directly to this mail with the Tracking # provided at the Post Office Nearest to you.You can get more information on this once the details has been sent to us and verified, you will receive a "CONFIRMATION" E-mail" fromPayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited with $2,200.00 USD .The Transaction will appear in your PayPal account Overview as Richie Mo after the Tracking Number have been verified.
Please understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect both the Buyer and the Seller.We apologize for the inconvenience this might have caused you.
PayPal would be responsible for any loss incurred during the course of this transaction.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
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I bolded the suspicious lines, as these are the "red flags" that I look for (for good reason). Notice the HORRIBLE grammar and spelling. PayPal is a professional company, and they take great care to promote that image. As far as I know, all their emails are computer-generated.
So here's my response to "Richie Mo":
Nice try! It's a shame that you're a scammer, because it's a really nice computer. Those paypal emails are fake, I know for a fact. I am not new to craigslist at all, and I've turned down better fakes than you on the daily. Thank you for giving me a good laugh though!
Die slowly in a fire. Thank you!
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That was all yesterday. I wake up this morning, check my email, and guess who's online in GTalk? This was fun:
me: Hey, hows my favorite scammer today?
Richie: pls who are U?
me: the guy you tried to scam yesterday
Richie: pls am not a scammer
Richie: since you told m,e you are not interested in my transaction again
Richie: i hv cancell the money
me: you sent me FAKE paypal emails. im not stupid
Richie: pls i am not send you anythin. it is frm paypal
me: I know you werent sending me anything, it was fake
Richie: not a scammer
Richie: no
me: lol
Richie: it is real. if you want to deal with me
me: i do
Richie: i can resend the money to you ok
me: lol
me: no
me: I want to get rid of you
me: you are filth
me: scum
Richie: ok. i agree with you
Richie: pls i want to make a friend with you
Richie: you wil help me collect item for US
Richie: deal or not
me: Here's where you're fake: a paypal email will come from [email protected], yours came from @officemail.net
Richie: it base on perc
me: you can buy it on ebay
Richie: leave that
Richie: i want to make a deal with you
me: I want you to send me REAL money, not some fake ass email
Richie: i want to help colect item for US
Richie: pls leave all hat 4 now
Richie: i want u to help me colect item for US
Richie: you will be given a %
Richie: when you collec the money
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I'm fairly certain he was trying to recruit me. Lol.
Sorry, this was pretty long, but I hope you all get a good laugh out of this too (and maybe learn to save your ass one day from the likes of scams)
WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*cks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
jersey_609 said:
WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
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I've been around the block a few times. I've had similar attempts on several different items in the past. One was a man offering more than asked plus $100 for shipping, but to his "daughter in west africa as a missionary". The sale was for a Behringer mixer for DJ-ing.
I hope that I have enlightened you all to the warnings and red flags to look for so this doesn't happen to you.
MacaronyMax said:
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
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eBay, at least in my head, is a safer way to deal with it because there's a third party involved. This all might be an illusion, but he sure seemed to hate the idea.
Diamond_dawg said:
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
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You have no reason to. Leave "Richie" alone lol
chopper the dog said:
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*ucks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
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Too funny! I was thinking of the "They eat the poopoos" accent, so not too far off lol
so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
^^^????????? he didn't steal no money someone was trying to scam him he's not Richie
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so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
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Unfortunately, the attempt was the opposite.
If I had $2200, I'd be partying too hard to visit xda to post this lol
I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
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I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
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Same here, its good to show people it still happens.. Just a shame alot of people do fall for it..
I ALWAYS get those emails every time I post an Ad on Craigslist. I know its a scammer because they always refer to what your selling as an "item" not with "Hey do you still have the evo? Will you take $50 for it?" like the typical low ballers.
Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
hmm..
<sarcasm>I would have done the following (knowing it was a scam...)
I think it may be legal to send bodily fluids and feaces as long as it is packaged in such a way that odours are not emmited, and it doesn't leak.
Get a macbook box, just for fun, use it as my toilet for a day, package it all up properly of course. And send it to that address. Be interesting to see what happens when they did get the USPS tracking number </sarcasm>
I don't like scammers....
I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
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Hahaha yeah i supose it is
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(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Very true lol. That would be very interesting, have a community-driven layer of known scamming addresses to check against.
wow. the nerve of some people.
It did give me a laugh though! I'm glad you knew it was a scammer (although it was pretty obvious)
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I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
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Hehe thats a good idea
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I was browsing, and my eye got on these vflyer listings, they are offering tytn II from 300-550 dollars. they seem kind of weird. do you think it's a scam?!
http://macjoel4u.vflyer.com/4/
http://gsmarketingltd.vflyer.com/1/
http://jacksonsom.vflyer.com/5/
http://kings.vflyer.com/3/
http://omicelectronics.vflyer.com/1/
http://commerce.washingtonpost.com/...rch.cgi?ID=MR00081074_merchandise&src=froogle
http://chicago.handylist.org/list/view_listing/30350122
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I was browsing, and my eye got on these vflyer listings, they are offering tytn II from 300-550 dollars. they seem kind of weird. do you think it's a scam?!
http://macjoel4u.vflyer.com/4/
http://gsmarketingltd.vflyer.com/1/
http://jacksonsom.vflyer.com/5/
http://kings.vflyer.com/3/
http://omicelectronics.vflyer.com/1/
http://commerce.washingtonpost.com/...rch.cgi?ID=MR00081074_merchandise&src=froogle
http://chicago.handylist.org/list/view_listing/30350122
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No one can afford to sell it for that price.
Known scam. DON'T BUY IT!!
yeh dont buy
the cheapest ive seen so far anywhere in the xda store here. get the discount club for $35 i think it is and you get the Kaiser unlocked for $718 total with the membership and discount. really good deal at $720.
cheapest ive seen anywhere else is $750 and you get free shipping here too. im thinking bout ordering
not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
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not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
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whats the difference?? didnt know there was more than one kind
kaiser 100 - no cameras
kaiser 110 - rear camera only
kaiser 120 - both cameras
eric b
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whats the difference?? didnt know there was more than one kind
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100 = no camera
110 = Back Camera
120 = Front and Back Camera.
now wonder they're so cheap...
lol woops, didnt refresh the page to find out someone had posted before me
Western Union?
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not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
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I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
[email protected] said:
Hello,
The box content includes:HTC TyTN II Pocket PC Phone
1350mAh Battery
AC adapter (UK plug)
Headset
USB cable
Stylus
Getting started CD
End user license agreement
Warranty card
Quick start guide
User manual
Also the cost of shipping the item to you is $25 via express delivery.Payment should be made via western union money transfer.As soon as you give us the go ahead,I will give you our payment information.Please send your complete shipping address so I will ship the item the moment I get your payment confirmation.
Thank you
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I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
[email protected] said:
Hello,
Thank you for the questions asked.
The HTC TYTN II will be shipped within the US.We are
not importing from the UK.Also it is the US version
and not th German version.
We only supply that if we have persons from germany
who want to buy and specifically ask for that.
The htc tytn ii is kaiser 120
as you will see when it gets to you.
Also we accept paypal only when you are making large
orders.
But if you pay by western union,your payment will be
confirmed online at once and your item will be shipped
out.I will give you the tracking number as soon as
your item is shipped.It should get to you in 1
business day maximum.
Waiting to hear further from you.
I will give you a call shortly.
Thank you.
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The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
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I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
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Well, I warned you. I'm not sure how clearer I can be.
They (and others like them) post the same junk here on a constant basis. Some have fallen for it and, surprise, they've lost their money.
No offense, but just use some common sense. Do you really think any company can sell merchandise for way below cost? Where's the profit?
As the old saying goes, "If it sounds to good to be true..."
Western Union = Scam
THANKS!
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Well, I warned you. I'm not sure how clearer I can be.
They (and others like them) post the same junk here on a constant basis. Some have fallen for it and, surprise, they've lost their money.
No offense, but just use some common sense. Do you really think any company can sell merchandise for way below cost? Where's the profit?
As the old saying goes, "If it sounds to good to be true..."
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Western Union = Scam
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Thanks guys for talking me off the cliff!
Sure way to determine if the guy is a scam is see if he's willing to take a credit card for payment or anything other than Western Union.
The scammers know Western Union is their only way to steal.
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Sure way to determine if the guy is a scam is see if he's willing to take a credit card for payment or anything other than Western Union.
The scammers know Western Union is their only way to steal.
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Yep, ask them if they accept paypal or not, because only paypal has money back guarantee!
TyTN4Me said:
I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
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so he said that they are the ones with BOTH cameras... that would be cool..
see if you can find out where in FL,if he will give you an adress i'll try to drive over and make sure its for real, if it is i would be buying one and i could pick yours up and ship it for you so theres no chance of a scam.
hey guys,
Just wanted to write a quick note to get everyone's help in reporting the people who are ripping off ITJE and the other cooks hard work and selling them on EBAY.
here is a thread in the general section of XDA about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374904
This is a link to the guys profile on EBAY
http://myworld.ebay.com/4goodeal/
The more people complain to ebay regarding this situation, the better chance we have of it getting noticed and take care of... so please help out.
yes, its time that you guys help US deal with **** like this.
Dont talk, take some action
I already reported most of his immoral auctions i saw, also send message though http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...uthorized+Copies&instruction=&expirationDate=
Ive Reported Certain People On This Issue.we Should Start A Name And Shame For These People.also Do An Account Where We Could Get Them Blacklisted.or Copyright DEVELOPERS WORK.i Know They Could Go Around This But Something Has To Be Done.id Rather Give To The Developer Rather Than Some Skanky Arse.maybye Do A New Sticky With A..hall Of Name And Shame..what Are Your Opinions On This Guys/girls..help Needed On This One.
Here is a link to all his negative feedback.
This guy is douchebag. Yes we should all complain about him. I don't if anything can be done legally.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=4goodeal&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home
Just a thought
If we monitor his auctions and tip off anyone who bids on one. ????
i reported him...nd gave the ebay ppl the info on him and his producsst
no bid auctions
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If we monitor his auctions and tip off anyone who bids on one. ????
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those are no bid auctions. Only immidiate payments.
This realy sucks! I feeld bad for Itje.
I reported him as well and if anybody gets a chance to get his ip ill packet his ass to hell ...
Hypothetically Speaking
Is there a way to win an auction on Ebay and email the seller -- sending him a nasty Virus that totally destroys his computer???
Just a Hypothetic Question.
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Is there a way to win an auction on Ebay and email the seller -- sending him a nasty Virus that totally destroys his computer???
Just a Hypothetic Question.
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Not likely.
Okay seems like there's really Nothing that can be done about it.
Lots of talk but really No action.
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Not likely.
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Wait wait there my good friend .... A virus isn't hard to e-mail a person all we need to do is hide it well .... Like once we get his e-mail have a sexy girl e-mail him saying she likes him and sends him viral attached pictures... Or just some other method but we have to catch this jerk off guard. Or not even a virus but a trojan or bot to gain access to his machine .. Thus we can then have even more fun than 1 messed up computer
Another Line of thinking
How bout we beat him at his own game.
How bout we offer the same thing as he does at only .10 over Ebay costs to list it???
Should put the ************out of business.
What do you think Simon?
we can also e-mail the bidders on ebay and tell them that they can get the roms here for free. I will do my part and do this whenever I come across one of those auctions.
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How bout we beat him at his own game.
How bout we offer the same thing as he does at only .10 over Ebay costs to list it???
Should put the ************out of business.
What do you think Simon?
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Thats wonderful except you cant do that on ebay with out worrying what issues they feel they may have with it. The person with that 10cent deal will more than likely get banned as ebay sucks and they look at that as some type of break of their policy. That much I do know as I made a 10 cent auction for a phone call and got banned .... So don't do anything to get anyone banned as my account is still down even tho i complain to them everyday after they allowed someone to fraud me.
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we can also e-mail the bidders on ebay and tell them that they can get the roms here for free. I will do my part and do this whenever I come across one of those auctions.
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No bidders as its a buy now sale not an auction. But if someone was to monitor it and catch the person who clicks it before they pay then yes an e-mail will be effective.
Okay -- Last Ditched Attempt at a Solution
What if .....................
We create a website.... win his auction...... link the website in his feedback
Website exposes what he is.
Where he got it from.
How they got ripped off...................
How about just making a fake ebay account and bidding on all his auctions then don't pay? Get banned, repeat process. He'd have to give up eventually.
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How about just making a fake ebay account and bidding on all his auctions then don't pay? Get banned, repeat process. He'd have to give up eventually.
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I say Yes.
So I tend to list my old phones on Gumtree, due to eBay's crazy fees. With eBay and Paypal, you sell a phone for £400 and give them £40 of it! Kinda crazy really.
Anyway, everytime I list an item on Gumtree (even through I state I wont ship internationally) I get e-mails people telling me they will pay me X+£100 via Paypal.
Of course I always either ignore or reply telling them I wont ship outside of the UK at which point they don't reply.
What I'm curious about is, how do they work the scam? Paypal is generally quite safe isn't it? Do they claim after two week's they haven't received the item? Does the money just never get to Paypal and they try and talk you in to sending it before it's there?
I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
http://reviews.ebay.com/PAYPAL-BUYER-SCAM-EXTREMELY-IMPORTANT-INFORMATION_W0QQugidZ10000000000114286
Basically unless you have proof that you have sent, and that they have signed for an item, PayPal will refund the money.
a specific example
So from the example, even if you have proof that the package was delivered, Paypal are likely to give the money back?
I wonder what happens if I ask the scammers to transfer direct into my bank account?
That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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and on paypal too
Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
Now... the other thing, the guy is only 7 miles away, I'd prefer to drop it over to him. If I get him to sign a 'receipt' do you think Paypal would accept it? I guess I'm actually safer posting it now, he's paid for postage, so he could claim I made it up, where's my postage info...
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I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
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I replied to a spam scam once, I gave him the crime stoppers number as my mobile number. Idiot didn't notice what is was, just asked for my personal number. At that point I ignored.
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Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
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So long as you keep the receipt for postage, and make a note of the time and date, where you posted it etc, the Post Office will refund up to £30 (I think that's the amount anyway) for missing items, after they have investigated. Anything more expensive, and I would suggest you send it with insurance anyway.
Are you guys serious??????
just search "gumtree scams paypal moneysavingexpert" on google (sorry can't post links)
That's why I stopped using gumtree overall. It is nothing but a scam den! Now I use other safer sites like movethat.com or bonsoni.com
Not if you're careful. I've not been scammed once using Gumtree and I've made more money from each sale as I'm not giving eBay and Paypal 12% of my sale. You could say that in itself is the biggest scam...
I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
Yes if you are smart then you should be ok (although my smart cousin lost his deposit money for a flat) . But the problem is Internet is available to everyone, even to the granny who never used a comp before.
usually these kind of naive people are becoming a victim. Just search gumtree fraud or gumtree scam on google news search thousands on result come up! Apparently police stopped taking this crime reports as they are too many of them.
You are not giving that 12% to ebay and paypal but do remember that actually you are doing them a favour by using gumtree, which is own by ebay and paypal.
That's what happened when capitalism reach at its pick and consumers don't have much choice.
Once again I prefer to use other smaller and safer sites then any of the above named site.
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I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
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eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
The alternative I used for Gumtree.com is OzAdz.com. I love their Personals section lol.
Mercedes325 said:
eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
Mercedes325 said:
One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, thanks. Very bad for sellers, not a viable option.
So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.
just try dispute on paypal =)...all will be solve
mistamikel said:
So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.
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is he/she on this forum?
I'd say **** on their feedback, and dispute on PayPal and eBay.
charlieb620 said:
is he/she on this forum?
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Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
mistamikel said:
Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf
mistamikel said:
Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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Don't worry. If he doesn't prove the tracking is moving, paypal will be in your favor.
He sold stuff before but wasn't active in ebay for couple months now. Maybe his account got hacked.
Either way, you're protected by eBay buyer protection and paypal too.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bigpetesales&ftab=AllFeedback
Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.
chambo622 said:
Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.
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It is a cell phone transaction and since many of us use eBay and market for sales/trade, its nice to have a heads up on him. I appreciate the info.
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stevedebi said:
I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf
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I am in Canada and need an AWS cell to use on the Wind network, but thanks for the tip any ways.
Also I know that this has nothing to do with a transaction on xda but as stated I just wanted to give a heads up in case some one from here was shopping on ebay and came across that seller.
As for paypal, I could win but get nothing if he withdrew his funds out of his account, this is what I was told by paypal yesterday when I called them.
if you win, paypal will get all money for you.....
if user don't have money in him account, we will have a negative money on him account...and paypal will persue him to revenge xD loool
Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.
mistamikel said:
Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.
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Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.
hazard666 said:
Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.
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He didn't even try to fake it.
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Nope, all 1's. It is what it is. I just hope I get my money back.
If a paypal rep looks at it, they would probably look at the tracking # and say something. Wish you the best of luck on that one.
Surprised. A hundred and something positives, no neg feedback on that user. That sucks to get shafted like that.
Good luck on getting it back from Paypal, though it should be a pretty easy claim.
Thanks guys. I dont know whats gonna happen as I was told by a person from paypal that I can win the claim but there could be no funds in the sellers account, so I would get nothing back.
I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck
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I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck
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If the seller don't got a credit card or bank account linked, there's no funds to take from. . Best of luck on getting your money back OP.
Hello,
On august 3rd, I was selling my email adresses on Ebay : [email protected] and [email protected]
I said on the description: READ CAREFULLY, THESE ARE NOT PHONES, BUT EMAIL ADRESSES
Someone bought my item, and paid for it
I woke up this morning and found that the buyer ( 1 and half month later ) ... Opened a dispute on paypal saying he never received the item ? I sent him the password 30mn after the end of the auction.
My point of view is that he didn't read carefully the description and now, thought it was a BlackBerry Torch and now, he wants his money back because of a mistake.
What can I say on the dispute on paypal ?
I have 4 options on Paypal:
Provide Shipping Information
Evidence Other than proof of shipment
Proof that I refunded the money
I will accept liability
Which one should I take since I sent the password vie E-mail ?
Thanks for your help.
Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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MacaronyMax said:
Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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Also curious, I've been wondering what to do with that box full of old email adresses......
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Someone having business or a fan of Blackberry could use it
What can I do now ?
Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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If you've sold someone free email addresses that are actually the property of someone else (Google and Microsoft in this case) then I LOL at you for the fact that the buyer will possibly get their money back. You didn't deserve it in the first place.
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Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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IF the transaction is legal, showing a copy of the email with the password should suffice. However, you technically do not own either of those email addresses. They are property of Google and Microsoft and are leased to you for free. I'm not sure you have a legal right to profit from them. Just a thought.
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M2oSa said:
The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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Basically your get-rich-quick scheme is about to blow up in your face. I think you'll find that ebay are about to do an Inception on you. i.e, the fact that you have violated the Terms and Conditions of both Hotmail and Gmail will mean that you have also violated ebays own T&Cs when you traded those addresses.
I hope i'm wrong, but would you bet the bank on it?
Edit: Don't get me wrong, i admire the entrepreneur spirit, but this is not that different from cybersquatting, and the powers that be NEVER rule in favour of the little guy in those cases.
It's not a " get rich scheme " ...
I created those adresses because I used to be a BBerry User ...
But since I moved to Android, I can sell them because they were mine and I don't need it anymore.
Well, that's not the point. The buyer said he didn't received the passwords but I have an E-mail where I sent the password. I did a screenshot and send it to paypal.
That's works ?
( We are solving it on Paypal.com, not Ebay
Put it this way. You are on the middle of a tightrope, 1000ft above a screaming hoard of greedy lawyers; Google lawyers on one side, Microsoft lawyers on the other. At the far end of the rope are ebay lawyers and behind you is a disgruntled netizen with a pitchfork.
Good luck dude!
Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Yeah, it's as airtight as a sieve, but i'm convinced!
Seriously, i wish you luck. It'd be nice if the little guy wins one for a change...and i f*****g hate lawyers!
Q) What do you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean? A) A good start!
Loooool thanks for your help !
Have a nice day