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OK, granted I don't know much but maybe this thread can group peoples Ideas on a suitable controller for the captivate.
I know the WII Controller app currently doesn't work for us, but we do see that the controller hardware does offer the opportunity to pair with the phone over bluetooth.
I guess the first step is to successfully get the pairing, is this possible somehow? would a successful password hack make it happen?
I guess second would be to have it recognize buttons in a keyboard fashion to work with most emulators.
I know the developer of the existing wii controller app has said we probably get his app working, and I don't blame hime for not trying to get every phone to work, but i feel there is enough talent here to maybe get our own solution?
Or, if anyone actually has a better solution to the hope for an external controller, please help us all!
Wait the WII app does not work for us? I was about to hit BB :-(
Unfortunately the test app didn't work for me, and the developer has the captivate on the list of phones that currently are not compatible and most likely will not be compatible in the future with his software.
Ouch :-(
Not good news but better than me buying the wiimote for nothing.
I am assume is a matter of time before someone comes up with one anyway
Has anybody tried pairing a Playstation 3 controller with the phone? PS3 + HDMI via USB cable would make a great portable gaming console for when out of town at family, etc.
I'd definately contribute cash towards getting a working driver if needed.
EDIT: Also, MSI has a bluetooth gamepad that works with the phone. Google MSI BGP100. My biggest complaint/concern is that the controller doesn't seem to be designed to accommodate a phone in landscape mode, so that's a bit of a drawn back for playing games on the go (as opposed to hooking it up to a TV or monitor, where it wouldn't be an issue).
I actually emailed the dev about future compatibility for our phones, he said it's samsungs proprietary bluetooth drivers that are incompatible with the wiimote.
If we were to flash a vanilla android rom or something, it would work just fine.
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"Hello,
thank you for your question.
You're right about the frequency of these kind of requests. Newer Samsung phones unfortunately use proprietary bluetooth stacks (developed by Samsung) instead of the default that is in Android, named Bluez. That proprietary stack doesn't support the type of connection that wiimotes need to connect.
So, the only way currently for you to have this app working is if you get rid of that bluetooth stack. If you want to, you can root and flash your phone with a custom ROM. "Vanilla" ROMs have had success with other non-compatible phones in the past. Vanilla just means a type of ROM that is made from code that originates directly from Google, not from Samsung. One known creator of good quality vanilla ROM is cyanogen from xda-developers.com, but I don't believe his ROMs can run on the Galaxy (yet).
A friendly word of caution: rooting and flashing probably voids your phone's warranty and you also loose all the data (like contacts, app settings, etc) so MAKE BACKUPS before doing anything.
Best regards,
Piki"
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
Amen brother
wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
Has anyone ever tried interfacing a standard controller through the microUSB port? Or custom building such a device?
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
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It depends on the drivers otherwise no bluetooth device will be able to connect...at least that is how I see it.
no that the psx emulator is out and resedent evil 3 works perfectly, i would like to see some kind of gamepad, sucks theres no way to use a controller.. , is there even anyone working on getting this done???
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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vibrant roms work with a few known and easily fixed issues with button logic. there may be other issues i cant remember but it is doable. as long as the vibrant is getting attention it should be enough.
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Wouldn't be too sure about that since he removed bluez after version 5 saying it caused more trouble than it was worth. It would seem the only hope we have now is for gdanko's aosp froyo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815420&page=18
Indeed it seems aosp is a gamer's only hope for our beloved captivate... we need the non samsung proprietary Bluetooth stack.
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Please forgive my ignorance, I'm completely new to the Android world. Has anyone been able to root a tab to allow Wii controller access?
Searched multiple forums but could not find a definitive answer.
Thanks!
I've rooted mine, and actually thought about trying the wiimote app again. (I used it on my Nexus 1)
I'll give it a shot...
It doesn't work. I'm guessing for the same reason the Galaxy S phones won't work with it either, the bluetooth isn't compatible.
I confirm also that it doesn't work. I've tried 2 different wii controller apps. And my galaxy is rooted. It just won't sync.
Yeah I tried em both also. I'm sure the BT hardware is the same on the Tab and the SGS phones, and they don't work either. I was very disapointed when I couldn't use this after switching from my N1 to my Captivate.
10-4 thanks for giving it a shot.
One of the developers of one of the apps says it's to do with TouchWiz. Sounds more likely to be a software issue than a hardware blutooth issue, which means it could be fixed or hacked Hope!
similar issues on my T-Mobile tablet; I tried to connect a Wii controller to my tab and the wiimote app keeps telling me to enable bluetooth.
i can confirm it works well on archos 101 but not on tmo gtab
im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming
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im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming
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Me to, with a hdmi out cable and a couple of wii controllers. The tab could be a neat little mini mobile gaming system. Hopefully with 2.3 or 3.0 we'll get that support. But then again I don't even know if the hardware can support a wiimote.
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Any news on this? I was really hoping to play mario on my galaxy tab? : (
Anyone know of any other controller for android?
I also still waiting on some news.
Having brought Snes,Nes,Gba, psx emulators on my tab I dieing for some news.
I thought is was do to with the bluetooth stack used by Sammy?
Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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I wonder if it's possible to change the one that's used in a stock ROM...
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Would like this to happen also.
I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.
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I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.
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Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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Yes Please do!
I hope we can alter what ever needs to be altered in order to uses a WiiMote with the Samsung Tab.
Seeing that the Dell streak 7 doesn't have Hdmi out, this tablet still really is my only chance of having real Gaming emulation on the go without adding much bulk!
Just wondering whether any users can answer those questions for me?
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Just wondering whether any users can answer those questions for me?
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I've just tested the WiiMote, and I can tell you - no, they don't work. Damn manufacturers modifying their BT stacks to left and right... :-(
Will probably root my phone and test that other WiiMote app that requires root. I'm hopeful for it working. Our phones is the perfect "gaming console" for retro gaming if so ;-)
Oh, what is the Root-requiring app? I've not come accross it...
*off to Google to find out*
EDIT: Ah, found it, still doesn't offer HTC/Samsung support. Shame.
Correction: Lg‘s screwed their bt stack so hard that third party software can‘t use it. its barely usable with sony ericsson liveview
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so... when (im in no doubt) we get say Cm or modaco rom could we use a wii mote or bt keyboard or will it still be " locked down"??
It'll work with CM, but I don't think Paul's Modaco ROMS usually change the BT stack, so I wouldn't expect it to work there.
Call lg support regarding this they said that they hadnt heard of the issue yet. The more of us that alert them of this ****ty nonstandard bluetooth the more likely they are too fix it. When i told them how other phones with the same broadcom chip had been "fixed" with third party roms they escalated my ticket. Also please remind them that the hardware is capable of usb on the go and software that supports it is an edge in the market in theese hd days.
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I've sent them an email regarding this problem. I'll call them tomorrow too...
We need proper BT drivers!
both bluez ime and gamepro in combination with a zeemote bluetooth controller work fine.
so it's not entirely impossible to work with the optimus 2x bluetooth.
The problem is that the drivers deny low level access to the hw
Btw nice to know other people keep telling lg to fix this
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a newb question I guess but I havent got an Android phone yet, this phone will be in my ownage in a couple of weeks :happypanda:
wont this work with this rom? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014929
@hobs0n: No, won't work
After talking to LG it doesn't really sound they care...
Ah shabby So the only ones that can change the BT stack/drivers are the manufacturer for the phone? like LG, HTC and so on? Does the WII controllers work for other Android phones??
Does anyone have a BGP100-gamepad and knows if that works on our Optimus 2x? As Wiimotes don't work, maybe that gamepad would be usefull... at least with a SNES-gamepad mod it would be perfect for the SNES emu.
Not the BGP-100, but the Zeemote BT Gamepad.
Both are running only with GamePro driver.
The driver freezed while trying to connect with the gamepad.
Even my BT mini keyboard doesn‘t work.
Both were running fine with the Galaxy S.
So at this time there is no way to connect gaming hardware.
And if anyone is thinking about PS3 controller. No it doesn‘t work.
The new GamePro driver is working fine with Zeemote JS1
And has support for further Gamepads:
- iControlPad
- Act Labs Gamepad
The iControlPad is to expensive, but does anyone know the Act Lab Gamepad ?
This is just sad.. !
So there is now way we can hack in a proper USB driver? or do we have to w8 for LG to release one?
I really doubt that LG will release it. After talking to them it doesn't seem they care about the problem at all...
Is this something that might be different on the more stock G2x?
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Is this something that might be different on the more stock G2x?
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Man I hope so. Im going to order mine on the 15th
Has anybody out there successfully paired a bluetooth controller (either sixaxis ps3 or wiimote) with sprint galaxy tab? No problem pairing with my droid x, so I know how to pair, why is galaxy tab bluetooth so different?
As I understand it, Samsung created a half-baked Bluetooth stack for the Galaxy Tab, which doesn't support a lot of profiles.
I think the only way to get this working on the Tab would be to run a build with better Bluetooth support. I seem to recall someone saying in the CM7 thread that Wiimote works if you flash CM7. Now that we also have MIUI, I wonder if it might work there.
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As I understand it, Samsung created a half-baked Bluetooth stack for the Galaxy Tab, which doesn't support a lot of profiles.
I think the only way to get this working on the Tab would be to run a build with better Bluetooth support. I seem to recall someone saying in the CM7 thread that Wiimote works if you flash CM7. Now that we also have MIUI, I wonder if it might work there.
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Thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately i have a sprint tab without their service (i only use wifi on it anyway) and reading in the forums as of yet it seems any rom (i have found anyway) seems to bug out the wifi so i am very leary of flashing until i see confirmation of it working... As of now i dont want a paperweight, as i am new to rooting/flashing and am not schooled in android programming. Again thank you so much at least now i know there is a way to fix this bluetooth issue. (i guess now i know why my bt headphones wouldnt pair either, thought they were just cheap)
Well i tried CM7 and it does work, i was able to pair PS3 controller just fine!!
The problem is that i dont like CM7 very much, if we were able use CM7 BT protocols on overcome it would be perfect
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Well i tried CM7 and it does work, i was able to pair PS3 controller just fine!!
The problem is that i dont like CM7 very much, if we were able use CM7 BT protocols on overcome it would be perfect
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BloodyViper, are you using a cdma tab? And does your wifi work? If it does then i will gladly flash cm7. I havent had any luck finding cm7 for cdma tabs though i have only found cm7 for gsm... I have searched all forums and android dev forums for cdma cm7 and all ive found is a work in progress (miui) with no wifi.
MIUI and CM7 are works in progress for CDMA tabs. Check the Developement threads by OldMacNut he's got a small group helping him put these together.
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MIUI and CM7 are works in progress for CDMA tabs. Check the Developement threads by OldMacNut he's got a small group helping him put these together.
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Thats the only one i have found. I hope oldmacnut gets the wifi working, as i dont care if i have 3g or not as i will never use sprints service (i am a verizon diehard gonna root my droid x as soon as i get my tab situated so i can tether 3g that way
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BloodyViper, are you using a cdma tab? And does your wifi work? If it does then i will gladly flash cm7. I havent had any luck finding cm7 for cdma tabs though i have only found cm7 for gsm... I have searched all forums and android dev forums for cdma cm7 and all ive found is a work in progress (miui) with no wifi.
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I am using GMS tab, wifi was working fine, i had problems with market crashing alot and many apps that couldnt install.
The great news is that i install Galnet MIUI For the GalaxyTab and man i was very happy with it. Its a great port and fast has hell, quandrant giving 3168. PS3 controller working great on all emulators.
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I am using GMS tab, wifi was working fine, i had problems with market crashing alot and many apps that couldnt install.
The great news is that i install Galnet MIUI For the GalaxyTab and man i was very happy with it. Its a great port and fast has hell, quandrant giving 3168. PS3 controller working great on all emulators.
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Thank you BloodyViper I am so excited for OldMacNut's MIUI build he and his team are working on. I did just see on the thread that he might have to sell his tabs to get through a rough time he is having. Since I can't post on his thread yet can someone let him know that I am looking forward to his build and I will pray that he gets through his rough patch?
Under MIUI are you still having market issues?
I so want Sixaxis support for my Verizon SGT, This is the only thing I really care about My gf hates touch interface for gaming and so do I. If I can get my controller working, she can play Spyro and I'll be a happy man!
Go Oldmacnut Go!!
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Thank you BloodyViper I am so excited for OldMacNut's MIUI build he and his team are working on. I did just see on the thread that he might have to sell his tabs to get through a rough time he is having. Since I can't post on his thread yet can someone let him know that I am looking forward to his build and I will pray that he gets through his rough patch?
Under MIUI are you still having market issues?
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No, market app for now works fine the only downside is the batterie drain, but for me that is not really a issue. If you have a good voltage control app you can undeclock to portability and when you want to play you can overclock.
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No, market app for now works fine the only downside is the batterie drain, but for me that is not really a issue. If you have a good voltage control app you can undeclock to portability and when you want to play you can overclock.
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Awesome! I can't wait for MIUI you lucky [email protected] with gsm tabs already have so many options BloodyViper you make me so jealous... But then again I shouldn't be because I won my galaxy tab in a contest so I guess I'm lucky too Once I get MIUI I will post here and let everyone know how it pans out, since I'm a noob and can't yet post on development forums
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Running CM7, wiimote and sixaxis work now.
Sprint SGT + CM7 = AWESOMENESS!!!!
Has anyone heard anything about HTC having the ability to have bluetooth HID connectivity with the newer version of 4.2 ?
I know it's not out just yet too.
It's something which has always been missing from sense phones and something i've always missed.
Even when an AOSP rom comes out which has the connectivity there, i always seem to miss sense and then cut my losses and gone back.
Any info would be great, rumours, official responses, anything.
Cheers.
EDIT: So sorry, posted in the wrong section, meh.
Please move mod, sorry
In theory they should do! If I can connect a wired controller via OTG cable, then why can't I with Bluetooth controllers? What if we use Bluetooth adapters?
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OllieArmageddon said:
In theory they should do! If I can connect a wired controller via OTG cable, then why can't I with Bluetooth controllers? What if we use Bluetooth adapters?
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Wired yea, but unfortunately not the same thing as bluetooth, and a fair point about the dongle, although you would need the relevant drivers and seeing as though it was difficult to get some BT dongles working on windows vista even when those dongle were made for windows (including XP) i see little hope for drivers being discovered let alone created for android.
The point is, HTC have always blocked the bluetooth HID part of their bluetooth stack and thus we cannot connect to things like the ps3 controller for six axis support,, just try wiimote or six axis and you'll see what i mean.
I find it ridiculous that the likes of the asus prime and the s3 can have this and we can't, just doesn't make sense, or maybe they've struck a deal not to?? i have no idea.
Another thing (which is off topic) the CRT animation has apparently been removed, just like it was on the One X.
Another thing i find confusing.
If anyone else has anything else to offer, i'd love to hear it.
Cheers.