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iPhone is Lookin' Pretty Stylish

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Look's like we win in the style category as well.

Muahahahaha! ROFLAO!!!

...and still people are desperatly wanting this phone. Is obvious that Apple iPhones are fashion gadgets..

I told you, Duct tape fixes EVERYTHING!!!
It's funny because I first heard of this in an article where they declared the iPhone 4 the best smartphone available today except they couldn't recommend buying it because it had a very very bad reception problem!?!?!
The best part was in the comments where everyone says, "iPhone pwns! U can fix teh receptoin probs with tape"
Seriously?
If I had to resort that low just to make my PHONE work... I would take it back. Apple needs to do a recall before they get themselves into serious trouble. It's defective right out of the box and that's pretty sad.

I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.

I did it on both my co-workers phone and the signal died completely after about 4 seconds.

Ryjabo said:
I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.
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The problem is real, and it's just as bad as they're making it seem. I bought an iPhone 4 on launch day to replace my aging 3G. I had seriously considered a Nexus One, but the gyro, front camera and absurdly high res display convinced me to stick with iPhone. I had the phone for 2 weeks before I returned it and got a Nexus One to replace it and I couldn't be happier.
I returned it pretty much entirely because of the antenna issue, which I will try to describe for you. For what follows I'm referring to placing a single finger over the left corner and not touching the phone in any other way.
If you're in a strong signal area, you won't notice a thing and it's not at all an issue. If you're in an average or weak signal area (not 5 bars to start with, or barely 5 bars) then you'll lose signal almost entirely. At my house when I went from phone on table untouched to phone on table with one finger on the lower left, my SpeedTest went from ~1Mbps to not being able to ping out. Audio was identical, as I shifted my finger on the left of the phone I could on command make the audio drop out on calls, and then the call itself if I left if for long enough.
Apple has a serious problem on their hands, and their refusing to admit it has me, along with a lot of other people, quite annoyed. If they'd have offered me a free bumper I'd probably have kept the phone, but they didn't and claimed there wasn't a problem, so I'm a Nexus One owner now.

Ryjabo said:
I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.
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Yeah this is the same thing my brother who owns an iPhone 4 keeps saying. Meanwhile, he's dropped at least 20 calls on me since he got it and he always blames ATT. Yesterday he said it dropped because he was in a mall. I guess the iPhone 4 can't make calls in malls now....?
I thought this all was funny at first but at this point I loathe talking to him when he's using his iPhone 4 anymore. Wish he'd just go back to his damn 3GS

Ryjabo said:
I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.
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It only happens when you are in a medium to low signal area. Just today I went to the ATT store here, and all 4 iPhones went from 5 bars to zero when I touched the lower left spot. Signal was around -80 dBm in the store. All iPhones have this design flaw, just depends on how strong the network around you is.

Ryjabo said:
I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.
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What you are misunderstanding is that this issue does NOT automatically drop the reception to 0. The actual issue is that it reduces the signal by 20 dB.
If you are in absolutely perfect and strong reception, a 20 dB drop will be unnoticeable. This is why you and those other people say they "don't have this problem". You are just in an area with strong reception.
Not everyone is as lucky.
The ONLY way to know for sure is to use an app similar to the one Engadget uses: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Care to make a video of the signal not dropping even a single dB when gripping it like they do?

Ryjabo said:
I work for a web hosting company, and as such myself and many coworkers are geeks. I know quite a few people here that have the new iPhone4's and not one of them has this problem, nor are they able to duplicate it (which I witnessed). We even stepped through videos of people showing how to make it happen.
I don't think this problem is as widespread as the media is making it seem.
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I walked into a room full of iphones after release day at college. I showed them how to 'magically' hang up on someone without doing anything but holding the phone :')
Trust me, it affects ALL iphone 4s.

brb getting a new iphone and rewriting jokes so the punchline is "iphone"
A bear walks into a bar in a mall in sioux falls. The bartender is talking on his new iphone and the bear says "Gimme your iphone"
and the bartender says "I'm sorry, but we don't let bears make calls in the malls in sioux falls"
The bear says "Gimme your iphone or Im gonna eat that girl at the end of the bar"
The bartender says "I'm sorry, but we don't let bears make calls in the malls in sioux falls"
So the bear eats a girl at the end of the bar and says "Now give me your iphone or I'm going to eat you."
the bartender says "we don't give phones to drug addict bears"
the bear says "what do you mean, drug addict?"
the bartender says "that girl at the end of the bar - that was a bar-*****-u-ate"

Why are there so much iphone thread in the Nexus One forum again?
Discuss this somewhere else.

What the hell is up with all of the iphone posts here? Who cares, go post in General or something.

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I just saw a new iPhone 4 commercial.
A Dad is trying to get his daughter to smile over facetime...so sweet hey.
Hes holding the phone in his right hand with no contact on the bottom left corner....too funny.

Signal Boosting Stickers

First off, Do they work? I have one that I've used in three different phones and now I've put it on my Shift. It seems like the signal is a little bit better, but this phone seems to have a harder time getting a signal than my heroc did. My dbd is 99 on my hero with no sticker and about 92 with it. I don't know how to find the dbd on my Shift and also the sticker says this side up, but shouldn't I point it down towards the antenna in the Shift? Isn't it in the bottom of the phone? :]

LOL, um, nope. In fact they can actually BLOCK signal.
1. You're not making any contact with the REAL antenna.
2. Antennas are tuned to 1/4 or 1/2 wavelength of the signal being broadcast.
If you paid for it, you just qualified for the "sucker born every minute" line from P.T. Barnum. Sorry.
I know a bit about antenna theory and design. My amateur radio call sign is KG4AIB and I've been licensed for quite a few years.

Compusmurf said:
LOL, um, nope. In fact they can actually BLOCK signal.
1. You're not making any contact with the REAL antenna.
2. Antennas are tuned to 1/4 or 1/2 wavelength of the signal being broadcast.
If you paid for it, you just qualified for the "sucker born every minute" line from P.T. Barnum. Sorry.
I know a bit about antenna theory and design. My amateur radio call sign is KG4AIB and I've been licensed for quite a few years.
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Did you also know that putting a convex clear plastic covering over your license plate it will make it so traffic cameras can't take a clear picture of your plate!
Oh and eating grass will make your allergies go away.
Its called the placebo effect; if you believe something will help, and I mean really believe it, your mind believes it to and will act as if it does regardless of all logic to the contrary. Its how those balance wrist-band things work. They tell you that it works and its amazing because it uses anti-sufferage-super-misogynist waves to help you stand up more straight and then you naturally stand up more straight when wearing it. Bingo, they're right.

It was only a few bucks and I just wanted to try it. Thanks for the replies. I didn't think it would actually hurt my signal though. :/
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kenvan19 said:
Oh and eating grass will make your allergies go away.
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Actually.... Getting "grass" injections over time will build up your immunity to grass pollen allergies. Tho won't make them go away. But anyway, this isn't about allergies, nor how many injections I get a week due to allergies.

haha you get a "thank you" for that awesome post.

Haha, thanks for the thanks but it wasn't really meant to be funny. In all seriousness, I'm majorly allergic to dogs as well as most pollens. I get 2x weekly injections to build up a tolerance. Sadly, I'm over 40 yrs old and will probably continue to receive them until the day I die.
oh, and did I say I hate needles with a passion????

I knew you were being serious, because only someone that got "grass injections" would know that info haha. A close friend of mine is a farmer and he is allergic to most things that come from the outdoors... pretty strange.

I used to smoke grass back in the day...

herbthehammer said:
I used to smoke grass back in the day...
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I almost want to thank you for the LAUGH.

If they actually worked, why wouldn't HTC put them in the phone when they make it?

emkorial said:
If they actually worked, why wouldn't HTC put them in the phone when they make it?
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because they would have to charge you more for the phone? $.35 for the thingy, $.05 for the person attaching it to the back of the phone, $.03 for the person opening the package in which they come, $99.99 for the three lines on the phone's hand book describing the new feature...

Compusmurf said:
I almost want to thank you for the LAUGH.
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I definitely want to thank you for the laugh it just made my day and sadly I just had my gallblader removed yesterday and even though I may be in pain. It was definately worth it

i have to disagree. It dose work and its not placebo affect. I have documented proof it helps when placed right. The antenna ont he shift is located at the bottom of the phone and thus when ur hand is covering it it knocks down receptoins. the booster stickers made my bars on my phone go up by three. Before i had the sticker i was getting cruddy reseption when i held it now i only go down one bar. I dont know how it improved it but at first it didnt.
I placed in the wrong location the first time the second time i put it on the actual antenna and boom instant increase in reception. not placebo affect at all. I do have to say though the best thing for increasine your phones receptoin is super power in the market and switching your phone to a 2g or 3g only band.

llvengancell said:
i have to disagree. It dose work and its not placebo affect. I have documented proof it helps when placed right. The antenna ont he shift is located at the bottom of the phone and thus when ur hand is covering it it knocks down receptoins. the booster stickers made my bars on my phone go up by three. Before i had the sticker i was getting cruddy reseption when i held it now i only go down one bar. I dont know how it improved it but at first it didnt.
I placed in the wrong location the first time the second time i put it on the actual antenna and boom instant increase in reception. not placebo affect at all. I do have to say though the best thing for increasine your phones receptoin is super power in the market and switching your phone to a 2g or 3g only band.
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NOT. you're not making a physical, electrical connection. Therefore, Placebo effect. But if you want to believe, feel free.
No disrespect, but you should also "believe" in a spell checker too.

kinda hard to spell check from the phone.... and how can this be a placebo effect since i have a much higher db and more signal? It works the same way as placing a cd behind a wireless antenna. Please don't make me have to make a you tube video on this just to prove im right. I know all about placebo effect and this dose not fall into that category. Explain this to placebo affect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eI120yQzpk

llvengancell said:
kinda hard to spell check from the phone.... and how can this be a placebo effect since i have a much higher db and more signal? It works the same way as placing a cd behind a wireless antenna. Please don't make me have to make a you tube video on this just to prove im right. I know all about placebo effect and this dose not fall into that category. Explain this to placebo affect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eI120yQzpk
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Because every video on youtube is real.
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I saw this one where they unlocked a car with a tennis ball
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llvengancell said:
kinda hard to spell check from the phone.... and how can this be a placebo effect since i have a much higher db and more signal? It works the same way as placing a cd behind a wireless antenna. Please don't make me have to make a you tube video on this just to prove im right. I know all about placebo effect and this dose not fall into that category. Explain this to placebo affect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eI120yQzpk
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Just a quick observation on that video. First half without the sticker, he held it with left hand. Second half with sticker, held with right hand. Should have done both tests identical.

2 dollars witch is the cost of these stickers isn't much. Most people blow 2 dollars on really silly crazy crap. If you can blow it on candy bars and McDonald's sweet tea then why not spend 2 bucks and try this for yours self. I honestly see a improvement. If i didnt i would not post it on here. This is not a forum to say something when you have no facts. Here are the facts from my experiments.
With out the sticker at work facing the glass window in the direction of the cell phone tower i got 3 bars.
With the sticker facing the same direction with the same variables Full bars.
With out the sticker with only three bars facing the window and the cell tower i could down load at just under 1 meg on the 3g network.
With it i had full coverage and could download at fluxes of under 1 meg and well over about 1.3 to 1.6 and yes wifi was off
I could not tell a difference when making calls how ever and i did notice that with out the sticker if i stood behind the wall can got online i got better reception and with it i got less.
So my Hypothesis is this. With a clear view and to electromagnetic interference you can get improved cell phone coverage with he sticker but if you are near EMI and have the sticker on its like it amplifies it and you have horrible reception.
Don't take my word or the word of any one else just go spend 2 bucks and try it if it fails then stick the sticker on your forehead and see if you get smarter by staring into the sun

Possible design flaw with HTC one bad reception

There seems to be a problem with the design where if you hold the phone in a particular position you lose reception. This article gives an idea. I too can replicate this signal loss
Sent from my HTCONE http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/29/antennagate-plagues-htc-one-video/

were you able to replicate this? i have to squeeze mine as hard as I can and I only lose 1 bar.
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So clearly the article states that minimal reception loss occurred when testing it...
So...you replicated it how exactly??
::cough:: bull**** ::cough::
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champ052005 said:
So clearly the article states that minimal reception loss occurred when testing it...
So...you replicated it how exactly??
::cough:: bull**** ::cough::
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the video said significant loss. i only lose 1 but I have to squeeze it hard. my evo 3d does the same. but who really squeezes their phone that hard.
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I'm not trying to say bad things about the HTC one I love the hell out if this phone bought it when it first came out just saying POSSIBLE problem my phone dropped from full bars to one when tried it out
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Nativeazn612 said:
There seems to be a problem with the design where if you hold the phone in a particular position you lose reception. This article gives an idea. I too can replicate this signal loss
Sent from my HTCONE http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/29/antennagate-plagues-htc-one-video/
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How can you replicate this? You only have a samsung.

Nice try Samsung.

.....so I guess a concern I thought that could be fixed some way is being flagged as Samsung lover.....that's nice of the community here........
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Yes, mine also drops from full bars to 1 bar when I hold it like that. No squeezing necessary. With a case the problem is still there but not quite as bad. Regardless, it's not enough to really have any noticeable impact

I've been told by multiple people that I've spoken to that I am "distant sounding" or "hard to hear" and I've been talking for years at home/work on my old phone without trouble. I naturally tried holding my phone with just the index finger and thumb on the edges and this has seemed to help, but I knew nothing about the ONE having problems, just a prior knowledge of antenna-gate.
Today we have this post and YouTube video and I can confirm what is being seen. More specifically though I go from -90 here inside a building with the two-finger grip and I go down to -105 when I palm it like in the video (no squeezing), as I normally hold it when talking on the phone.
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Update, additional info:
I was able to try with two co-worker's phones, both on Sprint. One of them an older HTC model, another from Motorola.
Both exhibit noticable signal drop from "cupping" the bottom of the phone with a grip like this.

Yeah.. I returned my One because of reception issues, mainly 4G...Voice seemed fine but 4G dropping to 3G killed this wonderful phone for me.. When my area is better saturated in LTE I will be buying the One again unless another phone is set to come out around that time.. Damn I miss that I.R. Blaster..
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Nativeazn612 said:
.....so I guess a concern I thought that could be fixed some way is being flagged as Samsung lover.....that's nice of the community here........
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Calm down, we kid.

I have been unable to replicate this
Sent from my rooted unlocked rommed HTC One, on the Sprint network.

I am also noticing a drop in 3G (5 bars down to 2) when I rest my palm against the bottom left corner of the phone. (San Diego area) I do, unfortunately, hold my phone this way, so I'll have to change that habit!

mine does it too. However, my hand is rarely at that corner so I can deal with it for now

Nativeazn612 said:
There seems to be a problem with the design where if you hold the phone in a particular position you lose reception. This article gives an idea. I too can replicate this signal loss
Sent from my HTCONE http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/29/antennagate-plagues-htc-one-video/
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This feature is a patent owned by Apple. For the HTC One to do this would be a blatant violation.
Your link came down to this; two guys on AT&T and one guy on Sprint. Sounds like a widespread problem, eh?
Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D

Extensive testing on my own showed that the signal bar up top is mostly meaningless. A single bar when gripping the phone resulted in no measurable loss in 3G speeds nor phone call quality, after repeating the test several times, compared to 5 bars. I was also able to make calls (and drop them) in the same areas as before, thus no perceived loss in range.

Zero issues cuffing it on all places

Vincent Law said:
Extensive testing on my own showed that the signal bar up top is mostly meaningless. A single bar when gripping the phone resulted in no measurable loss in 3G speeds nor phone call quality, after repeating the test several times, compared to 5 bars. I was also able to make calls (and drop them) in the same areas as before, thus no perceived loss in range.
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this thread is funny. seeing as how this is a developers site, and every is acting like users
i kid i kid.
but no, seriously... why is everyone looking at bars? forget the bars... stop being lazy and gave me your dbms!
for example, if you are at -45, and you 'apple-hold' it, and it goes to -120dbm, then we have issues. If it goes to -59dbm, then stop complaining, as many users have noted, bars mean nothing, not even in in-call quality terms. Those bars, to us... only indicate 1x signal. Remember we are using the HD Voice stuff now... which, unless I am wrong, operate on the 800mhz spectrum or something like that. not quite sure about that last part so don't quote me; im a little 'foggy atm' to be light. but certainly, bars mean nothing...
Slight update, using ##DEBUG#, in the 1x section, the signal goes from ~85dbm to ~113dm... so i guess that's bad, except for #1, it was already bad to begin with #2, big whoop its only 1X... anyway, ##INFO# isnt working so im looking for a dbm monitor as we speak. ill report back
Update:
Ok, the app is called Network Signal Info, by Kabits Software. It is really good, and free, and in the Play store. There is indeed a drop in my EHRPD connectoin (3g). It goes from ~83dbm to ~103dbm. Which is a drop of ~20dmbs. A little less drastic than the 1X drop of ~30dbm... But still may (keyword) be noticeable in certain situations, if you hold it a certain way. So, yea... It certainly happens, but I don't see it as an emergency problem, though it should be addressed by HTC at some point. This was done in my room, where reception is not the purdiest. Ill go outside.

Bars or no bars.. For me it was simple.. I didn't have 4G in areas with the One that I did with my other phone.. So it went back.
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[Q] HTC One unibody twisting

I have an HTC One and I laid it face down on my desk at work and the phone rocks like a table with uneven legs. What concerns me is I can easily twist the phone back flat with very little pressure (almost no pressure at all). The phone seems to have very little structural rigidity since it is glued together instead of being screwed together. Has anyone else noticed the unibody twisting?

I'm unable to repeat what you're saying (not that I have a clue why you're trying to do it in the first place). The build quality on this phone feels waaaay too solid for me to warp it even slightly.

I didn't intend to bend the phone, I noticed it was twisted when I laid it down. I was curious if anyone else noticed the the phone not being flat when laid face down.

kenstanza said:
I didn't intend to bend the phone, I noticed it was twisted when I laid it down. I was curious if anyone else noticed the the phone not being flat when laid face down.
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Perhaps it came to you that way? Mine is certainly flat.

Thanks for the heads up I'll remember not to twist and bend and rock my phone while its on the table.
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LiquidSolstice said:
Perhaps it came to you that way? Mine is certainly flat.
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It is as if the rigidity is gone on my phone. I will go by ATT tomorrow and see what they say about the twisting.

shook187 said:
Thanks for the heads up I'll remember not to twist and bend and rock my phone while its on the table.
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I know it sounds odd that the phone is twisting, but it is twisting.

I went to ATT today and the rep acknowledge the unibody is flexing and its not normal. His advice was to wait and see if the flexing worsened, if it does then send it in for repair under warranty... because right now he thinks HTC would claim it is in tolerance and return it unrepaired.

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I went to ATT today and the rep acknowledge the unibody is flexing and its not normal. His advice was to wait and see if the flexing worsened, if it does then send it in for repair under warranty... because right now he thinks HTC would claim it is in tolerance and return it unrepaired.
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If your within the return period you have the right to swap it out for another if you are not satisfied.. HTC shouldn't even get involved. Speak with the supervisor if they give you issues
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I have returned one HTC one already for cosmetic defects (speaks grills and display glued in crooked), because of this they say this defect has to be sent off for repair. They say they cannot exchange it again again in house.

kenstanza said:
I have returned one HTC one already for cosmetic defects (speaks grills and display glued in crooked), because of this they say this defect has to be sent off for repair. They say they cannot exchange it again again in house.
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Have you tried another store?
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I decided to call the ATT tech line... The tech was sympathetic to my problem and we had a conference call with a HTC rep. After explaining my issue with the phone he recommend that ATT swap it for me as the described defect was not repairable. The HTC rep also said the phone should not flex at all. The ATT tech then setup an in store exchange for me...I made the exchange and all is good.

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I know it sounds odd that the phone is twisting, but it is twisting.
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So, is the phone "Twisted" or is it "Twisting" lol ... I can understand if you have a faulty phone and it left the factory twisted but the way you are wording things suggest it started off straight and each day you wake up it's a little more twisted lol
... I'd just take it back to the shop you bought it from and get it swapped if it's defective.

me too
I found this thread after searching for ‘htc one twisted’ in google.
I also have this problem. Having owned the phone for just over 2 weeks I took it out of its official HTC flip case to dust it off and for some strange reason laid it face down on my desk and noticed that it did not lie flat! Closer examination reveals that the whole device is in fact twisted along its long axis. Now that I have noticed it, I see it all the time.
One difference however to the other story here is they mine is quite rigid and would not straighten...proof I suppose that I have not mistreated it.
I have had other issues which resulted in me sending it back such as a scratch out of the box, ill fitting sim tray, poorly finished edges and just general poor workmanship. I worked in a lab for many years making instruments and if I made something like this, even without the twist, I would have honestly thrown it out and started over.
I have phoned HTC and they have so far been very helpful and have promised to replace the case of the phone for me. It was just collected today so Ill keep you all posted.

Think uri geller has been at ur phone dude

vynz said:
I found this thread after searching for ‘htc one twisted’ in google.
I also have this problem. Having owned the phone for just over 2 weeks I took it out of its official HTC flip case to dust it off and for some strange reason laid it face down on my desk and noticed that it did not lie flat! Closer examination reveals that the whole device is in fact twisted along its long axis. Now that I have noticed it, I see it all the time.
One difference however to the other story here is they mine is quite rigid and would not straighten...proof I suppose that I have not mistreated it.
I have had other issues which resulted in me sending it back such as a scratch out of the box, ill fitting sim tray, poorly finished edges and just general poor workmanship. I worked in a lab for many years making instruments and if I made something like this, even without the twist, I would have honestly thrown it out and started over.
I have phoned HTC and they have so far been very helpful and have promised to replace the case of the phone for me. It was just collected today so Ill keep you all posted.
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UPDATE:
Despite being very helpful on the phone, HTC has returned my device with a letter stating that "we were unable to replicate the fault" despite me sending pages of photographs showing the problem. Because of this stunning incompetence I have written letters of complaints to both HTC and Phones4u. Under the sale of goods act I have the right to a device "of satisfactory quality and fit for purpose". I am not happy at all, in fact I am furious with HTC keeping the phone for a week, essentially acusing me of having an overactive imagination and returning the phone with further damage! I plan to take this as far as it needs to go until I am satisfied.
You can see details of my problems here by the way: http://kelvinvine.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/my-stunningly-twisted-htc-one/

I read your blog post and was pretty sympathetic of your situation until that last line... Buy an iPhone instead?! Are you nuts?! Heathen!
But seriously, I remember that after I had my phone for about a week i noticed the exact same thing you're talking about. It was a bit teeaned) tweaked, and I could twist it straight. But then I got distracted by how amazing my phone was and completely forgot about it just now. I can understand how the scratches that it came with are pretty unacceptable, but completely discrediting an amazing phone because of a few millimeters of twist? That's like buying an amazing sports car that's fast, comfortable, gorgeous and in every way perfect, but then saying it's a crap car because there is a cosmetic defect that you wouldn't even notice in day to day use and that doesn't impact the user experience at all. It's just silly.
Every day I love my HTC One more and more. It's an absolutely revolutionary phone and I would recommend it to anyone. If you're a nit-picky person who's going to be obsessed with microscopic imperfections, that's fine and you have every right to be that way, but don't mislead people onto thinking that the average person wouldn't be ecstatically satisfied with the HTC One
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I read your blog post and was pretty sympathetic of your situation until that last line... Buy an iPhone instead?! Are you nuts?! Heathen!
But seriously, I remember that after I had my phone for about a week i noticed the exact same thing you're talking about. It was a bit teeaned) tweaked, and I could twist it straight. But then I got distracted by how amazing my phone was and completely forgot about it just now. I can understand how the scratches that it came with are pretty unacceptable, but completely discrediting an amazing phone because of a few millimeters of twist? That's like buying an amazing sports car that's fast, comfortable, gorgeous and in every way perfect, but then saying it's a crap car because there is a cosmetic defect that you wouldn't even notice in day to day use and that doesn't impact the user experience at all. It's just silly.
Every day I love my HTC One more and more. It's an absolutely revolutionary phone and I would recommend it to anyone. If you're a nit-picky person who's going to be obsessed with microscopic imperfections, that's fine and you have every right to be that way, but don't mislead people onto thinking that the average person wouldn't be ecstatically satisfied with the HTC One
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You really should give people the benefit of the doubt before resorting to name calling. If you read my blog post before that one you will only see praise for the HTC One. Of course its a great phone other than the build quality and I would buy another if the post-sale treatment wasn't so distasteful. My post was ONLY ever about the disappointing build quality and the stupendously incompetent HTC repair staff. This is fact backed up by photographic evidence, not my opinion...and not name calling....which is unfortunately what pervades the internet during technology discussions.
Just to clarify, I am certain the average person will be completely happy with the HTC One. However I expect a premium product when I pay a premium price. Some may call me nit picky while others will say I am a connoisseur. Think fine wine. Notwithstanding, This doesn't mean I should not let the world know about the potential for problems so other nit picky people like myself, whom I know quite a few of, can steer clear does it?
And I'm not really going to buy an iPhone...oh god...its a figure of speech...but if I did....you shouldn't have a problem with that either....as I know loads of average, and even above average people with iPhones.

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You really should give people the benefit of the doubt before resorting to name calling. If you read my blog post before that one you will only see praise for the HTC One. Of course its a great phone other than the build quality and I would buy another if the post-sale treatment wasn't so distasteful. My post was ONLY ever about the disappointing build quality and the stupendously incompetent HTC repair staff. This is fact backed up by photographic evidence, not my opinion...and not name calling....which is unfortunately what pervades the internet during technology discussions.
Just to clarify, I am certain the average person will be completely happy with the HTC One. However I expect a premium product when I pay a premium price. Some may call me nit picky while others will say I am a connoisseur. Think fine wine. Notwithstanding, This doesn't mean I should not let the world know about the potential for problems so other nit picky people like myself, whom I know quite a few of, can steer clear does it?
And I'm not really going to buy an iPhone...oh god...its a figure of speech...but if I did....you shouldn't have a problem with that either....as I know loads of average, and even above average people with iPhones.
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I consider your post pretty fair and your point more or less valid, but... conoisseur? Really? For being able to distinguish between a straight line and a not so straight line? In a mass produced gadget?
I fail to see the parallel between this and someone of discerning and educated taste.
Even if it was just an analogy, the simple fact that you chose to use that word in your analogy just stinks of an unsubstantiated sense of superiority. I don't know you and I may be wrong but this is what you come across as.
Sorry for going off topic and picking on people in this thread but i just had to speak my mind.
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I consider your post pretty fair and your point more or less valid, but... conoisseur? Really? For being able to distinguish between a straight line and a not so straight line? In a mass produced gadget?
I fail to see the parallel between this and someone of discerning and educated taste.
Even if it was just an analogy, the simple fact that you chose to use that word in your analogy just stinks of an unsubstantiated sense of superiority. I don't know you and I may be wrong but this is what you come across as.
Sorry for going off topic and picking on people in this thread but i just had to speak my mind.
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I am glad to know that you thought my post was fair though....despite the personality clash!!!! :highfive:

Nexus 5 power button rattle fix....

Right, I may or may not be alone in this but the rattle from my power button was really starting to p**s me off. I could hear it clearly when the phone was at arms length and I tapped the screen anywhere in the top half. I thought it was the camera at first, then found holding the power button still whilst using the phone stopped it. This morning I was using my phone and decided to do something about it.
First can I say this was not any normal rattle (i.e camera lens), you could clearly hear it at arms length whilst tapping the screen in the top half. I made this video because people have told me they have the same issue. If you take your phone apart and break it, that's not my fault.
For those that have this problem and decide to do this, I hope it helps It has made me a hell of a lot happier with the phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ego0eXYwOms&feature=youtu.be

Wow wouldn't have just been easier to send it back keep your warranty and get a new one?
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Wow wouldn't have just been easier to send it back keep your warranty and get a new one?
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Ah, forgot to mentiom, this is my 2nd one. Bought my first one and heard the rattle, took it back after 2 hours. The replacement does the same thing and looking on here in the defects thread it seems a few people have the problem. There's no sort of warranty seal inside the phone and the stuff can easily be taken out again should it die for some reason and I need to get a new one under warranty.

nice? possible to change into a higher mah battery?

auggie246 said:
nice? possible to change into a higher mah battery?
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The battery seems easy enough to remove, so if there were one available I suppose it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to change

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Ah, forgot to mentiom, this is my 2nd one. Bought my first one and heard the rattle, took it back after 2 hours. The replacement does the same thing and looking on here in the defects thread it seems a few people have the problem. There's no sort of warranty seal inside the phone and the stuff can easily be taken out again should it die for some reason and I need to get a new one under warranty.
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Some people analyse small insignificant things too much, surely it couldn't have made an audible noise level outside of a sound proof box.
Did the sales person look at you bemused or did he test the rattle and end up deafened by it?

mtbgus said:
Some people analyse small insignificant things too much, surely it couldn't have made an audible noise level outside of a sound proof box.
Did the sales person look at you bemused or did he test the rattle himself/herself and end up deafened by it?
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He agreed that he could hear the rattle. It may not have seemed that important to him in a loud and busy shop, but when you're sat on your sofa in the evening and even the slightest of taps near the top of the screen make it rattle it doesn't take long before it becomes very annoying. If it were just when I shook the phone near my ear or something then I would have just accepted it, but it's the fact it is hard to ignore,even at arms length, made me want to do something about it.

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He agreed that he could hear the rattle. It may not have seemed that important to him in a loud and busy shop, but when you're sat on your sofa in the evening and even the slightest of taps near the top of the screen make it rattle it doesn't take long before it becomes very annoying. If it were just when I shook the phone near my ear or something then I would have just accepted it, but it's the fact it is hard to ignore,even at arms length, made me want to do something about it.
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Fair enough I guess.

I did the very same with my Nexus 4. Using tiny bits of tissue. Dunno why everyone is crying about it, its a very simple fix!

Thanks mate
I'm getting my N5 tomorrow, and living in a country not supported by Google Play Devices, it's nice to know that I can fix stuff like that myself

Stick it in a case, that should do it.

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Stick it in a case, that should do it.
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I have a case for it that I got off ebay, a clear tpu gel one. It muffles the sound but it is still there, plus I really like the feel of the phone and in the case you lose that.

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The battery seems easy enough to remove, so if there were one available I suppose it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to change
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Can't wait for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239829

Nbsss said:
Can't wait for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239829
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If you check further down the General section you'll see yesterday I posted screenshots where I got almost 7 hours of screen on time over an 11 or so hour period with the N5 Admittedly that was 99% on wifi, but it's still good

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If you check further down the General section you'll see yesterday I posted screenshots where I got almost 7 hours of screen on time over an 11 or so hour period with the N5 Admittedly that was 99% on wifi, but it's still good
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I'm on track for 3hrs SOT :/

Nbsss said:
I'm on track for 3hrs SOT :/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510785

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510785
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I see....
I think its because my network signal is mostly yellow, whilst yours is almost all green. I wonder if we can change the radios?

eh... my N5 power button rattles isn't as bad as my iPhone 4s power button rattle
not concerned, thanks for the head up tho OP! :good:

The more Im reading, the creepier it gets for me Only because I'm gonna make someone buy the phone for me and send it, so there would be no chance of return if I saw any kind of defects. Just why all these reports of rattles, dead pixels, after vibration weird sound...ughhhh! Was planning to buy it from Carphone Warehouse...

Ensifolk said:
The more Im reading, the creepier it gets for me Only because I'm gonna make someone buy the phone for me and send it, so there would be no chance of return if I saw any kind of defects. Just why all these reports of rattles, dead pixels, after vibration weird sound...ughhhh! Was planning to buy it from Carphone Warehouse...
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don't stress it brah, the vast majority are fine you just don't hear about it
mine is fine :good: