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Hey Y'all,
Anyone know what would cause my internal memory to get about 1mb fuller in what seems like each day. I turn my phone off completely at nite, I am non rooted with OS 2.1
I have even removed some apps to see if this stops. It hasn't Seems like something is writting to my memory with each new startup.
Is there an app, other than Astro or File Manager that will allow me to trim some fat off the internal memory. Also, where (what file) would that be stored in.
Sorry if I haven't explain'd this well but its got me baffled too.
When I updated the OS to 2.1, I was only using about 60mb of internal memory, then I restored all my apps and it came up to about 75mb used, now doing normal daily backups and just normal loads, I have used up 91mb. My backups are saved on the SD, not the internal.
If anyone has any ideas, I would be greatful. At this rate, I will run out of internal memory in about 2 months, lol
any reason why u dont wanna root??? it makes life with android so much easier..
anyway, ur probably buildin up a lot of cache.. if you was rooted you could just use cachemate found in the market and one click would get rid of your cache.. but sense your not, your gonna have to delete cache manually one app at a time..
menu>settings>applications>manage applications
let that load (it will take a min or two depending on how many apps u've got)
after it loads, click menu then sort by size..
start with the first app on the list and click on it.. once that opens you will see "Cache" and the amount (if theres any).. click on Clear Cache.. do that for each app (you will see that a lot of apps are at 0 already so just go onto the next one)
hope that helps..
Not really other than fear of screwing my phone up and not being able to put it back to 2.1 stock. I have been looking over the 2.1 root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
however and I never say never.
Thanks alot for the info about the cache(s). I will give it a try.
I really do appreicate your help.
UPDATE: I just did as you recommended, PERFECT!!
Went from 86mb used to 70mb used. 16mbs more free, I'll take it. Thanks again....
rdisanza said:
Not really other than fear of screwing my phone up and not being able to put it back to 2.1 stock. I have been looking over the 2.1 root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
however and I never say never.
Thanks alot for the info about the cache(s). I will give it a try.
I really do appreicate your help.
UPDATE: I just did as you recommended, PERFECT!!
Went from 86mb used to 70mb used. 16mbs more free, I'll take it. Thanks again....
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glad it worked for u.. now just think about it, you could do that whole process with one click if you were rooted..
bk718 said:
glad it worked for u.. now just think about it, you could do that whole process with one click if you were rooted..
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I know u r right, still thinking it over. My problem is really all the people who are rooted and all the problems they are having. This forum has 1000's of the" Help, I rooted and now this or that doesn't work" OR "Help, I just rooted and now my phone is Locked and I can't access anything" that scares me. My phone works perfectly, it tethers perfectly and its the old adage, If its not broken, lalalala....
Anyway, I haven't said NO.
BTW, Ic you're in Spartanburg, lol, used to date a gal in Easley and I am a grad of USC, GO *****!!
thanks man....
rdisanza said:
I know u r right, still thinking it over. My problem is really all the people who are rooted and all the problems they are having. This forum has 1000's of the" Help, I rooted and now this or that doesn't work" OR "Help, I just rooted and now my phone is Locked and I can't access anything" that scares me. My phone works perfectly, it tethers perfectly and its the old adage, If its not broken, lalalala....
Anyway, I haven't said NO.
BTW, Ic you're in Spartanburg, lol, used to date a gal in Easley and I am a grad of USC, GO *****!!
thanks man....
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Well, just cause you root dosent mean you need a custom ROM. You can stay stock rooted and just get the rooted abilities. IE Wifi tethering, Cashe cleaning, a bunch of other stuff.
Most people had the fear of messing up there phone, however as in the previous post you can root and stay with the stock ROM. I have rooted several android phones, not just hero's, and have not once had a problem. I know that some have problems if they are not on Sprint and try flashing a ROM which might changed their profile info. And the great thing is that there have not been any issues with the 2.1 RUU. So if you rooted and had problems, which I doubt, you can always RUU back to 2.1
They're not having issues due to root...it's the custom roms they are loading. I've had mine rooted since last November, and I haven't had a problem with the phone because of root. Now, I have had problems with custom roms before...but the nice thing about root is that you can always reflash to a new custom rom...or you can go back to stock (or stick with stock if that's your preference).
All root does is gives you more control of your phone. What you do with that control is up to you.
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I know u r right, still thinking it over. My problem is really all the people who are rooted and all the problems they are having. This forum has 1000's of the" Help, I rooted and now this or that doesn't work" OR "Help, I just rooted and now my phone is Locked and I can't access anything" that scares me. My phone works perfectly, it tethers perfectly and its the old adage, If its not broken, lalalala....
Anyway, I haven't said NO.
BTW, Ic you're in Spartanburg, lol, used to date a gal in Easley and I am a grad of USC, GO *****!!
thanks man....
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tkirton said:
They're not having issues due to root...it's the custom roms they are loading. I've had mine rooted since last November, and I haven't had a problem with the phone because of root. Now, I have had problems with custom roms before...but the nice thing about root is that you can always reflash to a new custom rom...or you can go back to stock (or stick with stock if that's your preference).
All root does is gives you more control of your phone. What you do with that control is up to you.
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Basically, this.
Well thx folks, so if I do this root proceedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
, I will have SuperUser perms and tipically NO problems as long as I stick with the stock ROM? Another question, Tethering is very important to me. I currently use PdaNet, will it still work after ROOT plus give me WiFi Tethering too?
Thanks again, this just got more interesting.
Pretty much wifi teather does have its limits but its still pretty wicked
Thx again folks, Ima gonna do it. Seems fool proof and the positives outweigh the negatives. I can also revert to pure stock if all else fails, so, WHY NOT?
Regards,
Soon to be ROOTED!!
OK, trying to ROOT, getting this while following instructions exactly:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Rich>cd C:\android-sdk-windows\toolsadb devices
The system cannot find the path specified.
C:\Users\Rich>cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb devices
List of devices attached
HT9B3HF00237 device
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb push unrevoded /sdcard
cannot stat 'unrevoded': No such file or directory
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>
Revoked. Spelling mistake. Check again.
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Revoked. Spelling mistake. Check again.
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Retry with spelling corrected, and btw, this is copy & paste:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Rich>cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb devices
List of devices attached
HT9B3HF00237 device
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb push unrevoked /sdcard
cannot stat 'unrevoked': No such file or directory
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>
humm!
Following the instructons exactly..
what the heck is unrevoked? looks like its missing an extension too. eg; .img
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go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
SEE Step 9:3
I am following these instructions but I agree, something is missing but then again, it then again, if something really is missing, I can't be the 1st to find it.
I tried this proceedure 4 times and gave up, then installed the normal 2.1.
PITS
Did you get the hero-root.zip? If so, did you uncompress it in the tools folder?
rdisanza said:
go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
SEE Step 9:3
I am following these instructions but I agree, something is missing but then again, it then again, if something really is missing, I can't be the 1st to find it.
I tried this proceedure 4 times and gave up, then installed the normal 2.1.
PITS
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Yes I did, I decompressed the 3 files within hero-root.zip to the C:\android-sdk-windows\tools folder.
The funny thing however is in the
C:\android-sdk-windows
folder, there is nothing, no files, only the TOOLS subfolder and in the TOOLS folder are the three following files:
adb.exe
AdbWinApi.dll
AdbWinsbApi.dll
It this correct?
It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
I couldn't agree more.
never used it thank goodness.........
Never happened to me
EDIT: Sorry for my rudeness, anyways, people should know that it's not the greatest idea to use rom manager with cm5/cm6. It has already been established that it may be a bad idea to use the program with the following roms. Sorry I get really cranky in the mornings, not the best idea to come onto the forum with some old news :|
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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I have never used it and I agree with him just from all the posts I have seen related too it messing up people's recovery images. Does that make me stupid?
I've used it for a few weeks now with no problems on my MyTouch on 1.6, 2.1, and 2.2 ROMs. Not saying others aren't having legitimate issues, but people in general are much more likely to post negative reports than positive ones.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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Please lead us retartds through your install procedure, current rom, set-up so we can be as learndededed as you. I have had cm5&6 with ra installed upon initial set up. No swap/ noext1234, stock mt3g spl 2.22.23.02 radio. Nothing special. I even did it with the donut mytouch rom w/root.I only use basic apps, nothing that would interfere with recovery. to me it seems that when u flash a cpl different roms a day is when it hangs up. I can usually get the phone to boot back up, which gives me a chance to get back into rom manager and flash ra recovery back to the phone. the last cpl times I had to wipe cache before it would actually flash RA recovery. so basically if u can get the phone to boot past the splash screen go to rom manager and flash the **** out of ra recovery until it works. First we found out that clockwork didnt like flashing zip's and backups on low batteries 30% and lower. then the always fun recoverly log issue(cant recall the exact error right now) and of course the cant get to recovery issue. I know it's not a widesporead problem but it is a problem that renders phones useless until u can find someone nice enough to help u and not treat u like a retard. Not everyone knows as much about phones as you guys do....congratulations you know all there is about phones. go learn some ****ing human decency, if u have nothing helpful to say then shut up.
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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hmmmmm. Maybe since its flashing clockwork from inside rom manager is what might be killing it for some of us. tonight I will try just flashing clockwork outside of rom manager and see how that goes. i like clockwork's set up and it is easy to use, just kinda freaks me out when my recovery goes bad.
arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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but at the same time thats why it is a part of rom manager. one click recovery flasher. to make it "easy". i highly doubt you can go into rom manager and incorrectly flash clockwork recovery. its a one click thing
it's also spoken out at many threads at xda that flashing the recovery from within the OS causes issues, so trying to install the recovery from PC or even RA1.7 should be a better option.
I'm considering that you already know the commands for that. better luck! remember, clock work will allow you to flash anything without signing - meaning? you can edit any update.zip to your liking and then forget about all the trouble of signing it before flashing. a simple toggle should do the trick while you are in recovery mode happy flashing.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
crypysmoker said:
It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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Im gonna give it one more try. I dont think I have ever.....
flashed clockwork from rom manager
reboot into recovery from rom manager right then (read some where that on some roms when u reboot to recovery using the regular way it might mess up....not sure about this one).
wipe everything (clockwork wipes more that amon ra)
reflash any rom
in my case... above steps then in this order
flash fireats custom mtd part 1.1
super E
Gapps
overclock update
fireats custom mtd part 1.2
anyone see a issue with what I have done so far??
Ok I will post back when clockwork fails again.....and if not f-in sweet
chrisgto4 said:
It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
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chrisgto4 said:
hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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You found your answer within the first example link that you provided, look at post #3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
rom manager is not for idiots like yourself. rom manager is a great tool for many different phones. sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it. an advanced user (who its made for) can still flash recovery via fastboot, and have all the helpfulness and easy ui of rom manager and easy access to cm nightlies.
dont knock a dev who works on many different phones, and dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
tehseano said:
sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it.
dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
I agree it is an 'easy' shortcut that is not the best decision.. Like for example I think it killed my phone. I repaired permissions via rom manager, rebooted as it told me to and now my g1 wont boot past the g1 logo. I could install from a backup but the backup is 1+ month old (my error oops!). I am hoping to find a solution... Really dont wanna wipe everything..
warsng said:
i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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Get a clue , its a program any gimp, including you, can install from the market, it is made in such way ...the fact that it dosent fail to write the recovery in fastboot mode means nothing!
This program shouldnt let the G1 user flesh any rec image. Till that happens it is the DEV's fault. Shouldnt be in the G1 CM's either.
ROM Manager just does not work.
................... So mad anybody buys this program it installs Clockwork Boot Partition but IT DOES NOT ALLOW TO UNINSTALL !!!! This is like a virus.
To make matter worse the program just does not work.
Download any RON from ROM Manager it boots to Clockwork Recovery "the virus" and just sits the with the clockwork Android/exclamation.
Clockwork does not answer emails.
Their Forum is full of people that like me are kind of nobbish and very mad that you can not restore the normal android partition.
Two questions anybody have any clue why the program does not work for me?
Failing that how to uninstall revert back to normal Nexus One configuration?
I seen somewhere where somebody says you download a file.
Run some commands from somewhere??? not sure where. I think if you find the the Android ADK you can connect you Nexus One to a computer, turn on some sort of terminal emulator "how?", type these commands from a promote in this emulator. THEY SAY THIS IS EASY ???
You know I live in Toronto I would pay somebody to revert my N1 to stock and not go through the hassle.
All this rooting stuff maybe nice, Titanium Back up, Shoot me, "Cool ROMs which I can not install with ROM Manager" but the education curve is not worth it in my book.
Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work.
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Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work got the exclamation android again
Did you flash anything? Or just root and install Rom Manager?
Here are the steps......
Made sure I was rooted, ran a few apps that require root permissions.
Ran ROM Manager,
Flashed the latest Clockmod Recovery
Select Download ROM
Selected CyanogenMod 6.0.0 "I know it work well at least they say so here"
First time select backup current ROM, I did not go for a wipe, selected Google Apps addon.
Watched and it seemed to back up,
Rebooted but.... everything looked the same.
About phone, looked at Andriod Version 2.2 Baseband , kernal Build FRF91
see CyanogenMod nowhere.
Sucker for punishment opened ROM Manager and it asked me if I wanted to report an error "cancel" tried to install CyanogenMod again, it went staright to Andriod Guy/Exclaimation, hit up volume/power, rebooted.
Now whenever I try again I get Andriod guy/exclamation.
I think if I hit "fix permisions in ROM Manager", Flashed CLockwork recovery again .... I can go back to the first step above.
Have you downloaded a rom off of xda and attempted to flash it through recovery?
You can download ROMs from ROM Manager.
I downloaded them from ROM Manager.
Is Rom manager listed under the allowed list under the superuser apps? And it doesn't seem like clockwork is properly loaded on the system, otherwise you would not see the android/with exclamation mark when you boot into recovery. You would see that the latest clockwork recovery is listed twice on the top of the phone. If you have both lines there, that means you have the latest recovery. If you are still having problems with the latest clockwork recovery to install, have you tried the earlier versions to see if they properly install on the phone?
From my experiences, you need to indeed wipe and install gapps to properly install any rom. Then use titanium backup to restore your apps and settings. Looks like you are already backed up/nandroid before doing so.
Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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I know most people say when you download ROMs you need to wipe.
I know with Android this should not be a big deal, enter your Google info, the market downloads everything you paid for and then set up exchange mail again but it does take me a few hours to go through the steps and I been lazy.
Try a wipe......
No one said rooting would be easy lol. Customizing one's possesion, let it be a car to a phone is no real small feat. Like anything, you can go into detail as much as you want or not depending on why type of Rom you choose and like. For CM6, that ROM is excellent for customizing pretty much everything on your phone, but it does take some time to get it to your liking.
If you like a "kitchen sink" ROM, have you looked at eVilD's Sense ROMs? Well thats if you like the Sense UI's really, which I do not mind, but everything is thrown in there lol. BUT CM6 is a great launching pad for a novice, like I still am.
I've had no problems with Rom Manager. which clockwork did you install? the beta or stable one? Cause i know when i was doing mine it asked me.
I did the following steps
1. Root
2. Installed Rom Manager and backed up
3. Downloaded Rom of my choice
4. Full wipe and installed rom (via rom manager)
The OP just didn't root, of course.
If the education curve isn't worth it - just uninstall the application. Because you didn't install anything besides the application - because you have no root privileges - because you didn't root. And since you state that you don't want to learn - then why did you start messing with it in the first place?
The only thing that I don't like about ROM Manager is that it creates a lot of people like the OP - starting to mess with something without any wish for understanding, how it works, screwing things up (or not), and start complaining. You did what you did, you didn't bother learning, so why exactly are you complaining?!
Well I will ignore Jack_r1 who is a troll.
"All boards have them ..... sigh"
For the people that were much more friendly and helpful,
Ok next time I try it I will do a full wipe.
Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
Jack_R1 said:
Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
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I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
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I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
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I didn't bother reading his next post, where he said he had root. My mistake.
I believe he had the recovery installed initially (otherwise he wouldn't see it backing up), but the first reboot to stock ROM removed it. After that, he wasn't able to do anything, being booted to stock Android recovery. And came here to complain. I guess a difference between running a program and rebooting from different partition aren't common sense to understand? Should be a prerequisite list before rooting.
The correct way would be, of course, to reflash the recovery through ROM manager again, but for people who don't understand the concept of dual-booting and think they run an application - that's not obvious (and it's one of the reasons I think ROM Manager is bad, and manual installation is good). And the better way would be to read the guides and flash the recovery manually. And while going any of those ways, whining on internet boards instead of asking questions would be the most unwelcome way.
I use ROM Manager because I'm a lazy bastard and it has worked flawlessly for me. I have literally flashed over 50 ROMs (mostly CM nightlies) and it has yet to fail me.
But people that have no clue what they're doing shouldn't be using a program like this and I'm pretty sure it comes with a disclaimer of sorts? Although I've barely flashed anything manually I did read up on the processes before going the custom ROMs route, it just seemed obvious.
Me too - lazy bastard, that is...
However, there was an issue with one of the ROM Manager updates a while back, where backups wouldn't restore. That's when a bit of manual knowledge came in handy...
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Hello everybody. I've never unlocked, rooted, or done any modding to a phone before... I'm also not much of a unix/linux guy, but have SOME familiarity with it.
OK, so.....
I've been doing some reading around this forum & am still confused about some things, and also have some questions I haven't found answered. I apologize if these have been asked/answered elsewhere, but I have tried searching.
1. Some terms are used in this forum that I am unfamilar with: adw, adm? jig?
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
3. I've seen people mentioning phone batches... what is this info needed for? Mine is batch 1009 if that matters.
4. OK, so if you screw something up & brick your phone... you can use ODIN w/JF6 to fix this? There is no way to be unable to un-brick your phone, as long as you have ODIN & JF6?
5. I've downloaded the GalaxyS OCR software, but you still need to use another program to flash your ROM file over? Am I understanding this correctly?
6. Where do I get the ROMs for froyo.. and what is the easiest software to use for flashing the rom? I see people mentioning Cognition a lot, but they also mention some others like Axura. Is there a definitive comparison of the various ROMs someplace that I am missing?
Thanks in advance everybody!
Hello everybody. I've never unlocked, rooted, or done any modding to a phone before... I'm also not much of a unix/linux guy, but have SOME familiarity with it.
OK, so.....
I've been doing some reading around this forum & am still confused about some things, and also have some questions I haven't found answered. I apologize if these have been asked/answered elsewhere, but I have tried searching.
1. Some terms are used in this forum that I am unfamilar with: adw, adm? jig?
Adw is a launcher
Not sure on adm
Jig is a device some have put together and used to recover from brick
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
There is an app on the market android id changer. I believe you need to be rooted. Download app, click save id. When you load a froyo rom some will automatically use the saved id, others may not. In the case that it does not get same app load id, click change. Phone still reboot id will be changed
3. I've seen people mentioning phone batches... what is this info needed for? Mine is batch 1009 if that matters.
You should be fine. I am the same batch
4. OK, so if you screw something up & brick your phone... you can use ODIN w/JF6 to fix this? There is no way to be unable to un-brick your phone, as long as you have ODIN & JF6?
Odin will save you from just about everything. Couple things, only works on pc. Download drivers for the phone prior to flashing anything. Make sure your phone is recognized by the pc. Attempt to get into download mode. Pull battery, sim, external sd. Put battery back in. while holding volume up and down plug in usb while connected to pc. Screen should show orange guy with shovel. If works just pull battery to get out of that screen
Attempt to get into recovery. Volume up and down and per at the same time. When at &t screen comes up, let go of all three. A screen should come up with blue letters
If you can not get into either of these I would not flash
5. I've downloaded the GalaxyS OCR software, but you still need to use another program to flash your ROM file over? Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes
6. Where do I get the ROMs for froyo.. and what is the easiest software to use for flashing the rom? I see people mentioning Cognition a lot, but they also mention some others like Axura. Is there a definitive comparison of the various ROMs someplace that I am missing?
Roms can be found in the captivate development section. There are several froyo roms.
You install roms using free app, rom manager. Download app, open, top option says flash clockwork recovery, click and scroll to captivate. This puts an update zip on your sd card. Power phone off. Get into recovery, three button combo you tested before. Navigate in recovery using volume up and down, select with power. Scroll to reinstall packages. You may get butted back to the same screen, click reinstall packages, will take you to a green recovery screen. Reboot phone.
Find the rom you want and download, can be done directly on phone. Move file to the root If your sd card. Power off remove sim and external sd. Make sure your battery is fully charged. Open rom manager app. Click install rom from sd. Navigate to file, select clear cache and data. If you want to backup your current state there is an option to do so. Click ok, put your phone down, be patient. Couple minutes later you will be booting into your new rom.
Hope this helps
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Personally... I don't know if everyone should be trying to install custom ROM's on their phones.
Alot of people have too many issues figuring out how to root, sideload enable, and then download ROM Manager to install a custom ROM. Then when things go south they don't know how to restore their phone and end up having to warranty it.
Doing any of the above will immediately void your warranty.
But... with all that said I'm running a "stock" Eclair OTA JH7 right now with a few tweaks - and I really can't say I'm missing all the "Froyo goodness" at the moment.
I've rooted and allowed non-market apps with CLShortfuse's One-Click Root program.
Then I downloaded a Lag Fix (RyanZA's OCLF) from the market... and the phone has been screaming along just fine.
And of course.. GPS still doesn't work - but at this point I'm used to it.
No issues with headphone's not working, or terrible battery drain, or the other myriad of issues you will find by installing the latest and greatest. So... rather than start in with the latest popular ROM - I'd just Root and apply a Lagfix and see how it goes from there. If at that point your really comfortable with flashing a ROM - go for it.
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Then I downloaded a Lag Fix (RyanZA's OCLF) from the market... and the phone has been screaming along just fine.
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OK, so I've dipped my toe in & rooted the phone using TGA_Gunnman's "GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models"
According to the program, I'm rooted. Phone rebooted into that recovery mode & I chose "Reinstall all packages".
Phone rebooted as it's supposed to. Went into Market, all seems good, but I can't find this OCLF you mention. Searched on RyanZA, OCLF, and also "lag fix" but don't get any results... ??
Also, The AT&T programs are no longer listed under my applications manager, were they uninstalled by default? I still see a couple of AT&T apps when I go to view all applications, but can't find these apps to uninstall in the app manager section.
Thanks!
Bill
OCLF I believe had been taken off the market but I would not suggest using that program for anything other then rooting your f device
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So it has... whats the deal?
Not sure why it was removed but I only used it as an easy way to root. The lag fix on that app was an ext 2 lag fix that is obsolete. If you are willing to apply a lag fix and want froyo read the cognition, perception, auxura, etc threads in development and decide which one you want.
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If you just want your phone to work, I'd suggest just doing one of the lag fixes and staying as "stock" as possible. There's a one-click root/unroot for the captivate for rooting. The rest is up to you. But, for me having exchange support for work is a must and Froyo works perfectly with my company's exchange set up.
If you're a "tinkering" type of person, then go for some custom stuff! I believe best way to learn is just go do it. Read through the development section for a week or so (post your questions in this section though... devs seem to be a little snippy lately) and have fun. Odin has saved me from bricking my device a few times. Like was said before just make sure you download and test working usb drivers and can that you can access your device from windows.
Good luck!
Billbo1970 said:
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
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ARG! I flashed Perception build 5 without backing up my original device ID. What is the importance of the device ID?
If I go back to the my stock ROM backed up with ROM Manager, will it still have my original device ID?
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ARG! I flashed Perception build 5 without backing up my original device ID. What is the importance of the device ID?
If I go back to the my stock ROM backed up with ROM Manager, will it still have my original device ID?
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I believe perception 5 generates a random one.
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I believe perception 5 generates a random one.
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K, thanks, but that still doesn't answer my question regarding the significance/importance of the device ID. How is it used and what is it used for?
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K, thanks, but that still doesn't answer my question regarding the significance/importance of the device ID. How is it used and what is it used for?
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The market and some games access it. So with leaked froyo, when everyone has the same id it causes issues because there can be like a thousand people with the same id trying to download at the same time.
As far as the games,i never had a problem do I can not say which ones and what the issue was
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Billbo1970 said:
OK, so I've dipped my toe in & rooted the phone using TGA_Gunnman's "GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models"
According to the program, I'm rooted. Phone rebooted into that recovery mode & I chose "Reinstall all packages".
Phone rebooted as it's supposed to. Went into Market, all seems good, but I can't find this OCLF you mention. Searched on RyanZA, OCLF, and also "lag fix" but don't get any results... ??
Also, The AT&T programs are no longer listed under my applications manager, were they uninstalled by default? I still see a couple of AT&T apps when I go to view all applications, but can't find these apps to uninstall in the app manager section.
Thanks!
Bill
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AT&T applications are system applications and therefore do not show under the default application manager view. If you are still "stock", you would do Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Press Menu button>Filter>All. This will list all the applications on the phone. Be careful what you try and remove if you do this. Remove the wrong system app and your phone will dump. Most system apps won't let you remove them this way, you would have to use ADB or Titanium Backup to remove.
Search and read. Good Luck!
iirc batch 1009 doesnt have download mode.
you should flash the one click that enables the 3 button download mode before you do anything...
then make a jig so that you can recover if anything ever messes up...
then go nuts and flash 10x a day.
Ah thanks for the info, that shows them. So, I havne't done a thing other than root the phone so far. I've been trying to find the 'lag fix', but haven't been able to. I have however found a lot of posting on how the lag fix makes the phone much faster, but also drains the hell out of the battery. Any opinions on that? That's really all i wanted right now, a faster phone & get rid of some AT&T apps. One of them seems to run all the time (I use my wifi a lot), is it safe to kill AT&T Hot Spots, or will I lose wifi connectivity if I do that?
Bill
Billbo1970 said:
Ah thanks for the info, that shows them. So, I havne't done a thing other than root the phone so far. I've been trying to find the 'lag fix', but haven't been able to. I have however found a lot of posting on how the lag fix makes the phone much faster, but also drains the hell out of the battery. Any opinions on that? That's really all i wanted right now, a faster phone & get rid of some AT&T apps. One of them seems to run all the time (I use my wifi a lot), is it safe to kill AT&T Hot Spots, or will I lose wifi connectivity if I do that?
Bill
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The only lag fixes out there come with custom roms or kernals. Battery life depends on the rom but common sense would dictate if you are driving 100 mile per hr it will take more gas then going 50
I do not think you will have any issues killing at&t hot spots. It is gone from all custom roms so it can not be too important. Do not mess with anything google especially gtalk
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Thanks for the info! Well, I've bought the paid version of Titanium Backup & just backed up the phone; and I have Odin w/the correct ROM file, so I may start delving a little deeper into the phone now.
Any suggestions on a ROM for someone that just wants to speed up the phone a bit & lose the ATT bloatware? Don't really care if it's 2.2, I can wait for the official to come out & be ROM'd up by the geniuses here
Bill
Billbo1970 said:
Thanks for the info! Well, I've bought the paid version of Titanium Backup & just backed up the phone; and I have Odin w/the correct ROM file, so I may start delving a little deeper into the phone now.
Any suggestions on a ROM for someone that just wants to speed up the phone a bit & lose the ATT bloatware? Don't really care if it's 2.2, I can wait for the official to come out & be ROM'd up by the geniuses here
Bill
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If you do not care about 2.2 a good starter rom would be cognition 2.16. You can get it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
Click on get cognition here. It will bring you to a page with a bunch of links. Personally I would use the 2.16 without hsupa. If you never use bluetooth then it does not make a difference. This rom uses the voodoo lagfix. The only downfall is that everyone had moved to 2.2 roms do if you post questions in that thread I am not sure you will get much back.
If you are going 2.2 I would read and try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856877
Perception is also an option but from what I am reading I would not flash the latest update until it gets worked through some.
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Personally I would use the 2.16 without hsupa.
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What's huspa?
Billbo1970 said:
What's huspa?
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I am probably not the best to explain this but it is a faster upload and download capability that us not standard on the Captivate. Meaning if you have it, and the data in your area is strong, you should have a faster download/browser experience
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Okay, so here I am all proud (and a little surprised) that I made the jump from a WM device to the REVO . . . excited about the opportunity to take advantage of the open source android architecture, and skim off some of the great work being done by apparently some of the leading chefs (is that a WM term?).
But now that I'm here, I'm thoroughly confused by it all and a little gun shy because I'm clearly a generation behind what's going on.
My situation is I have a stock REVO with ZV7 - never rooted . . . a "virgin-bread". I'm interested in rooting it and playing around a bit. I found my way through spl unlockers and custom ROMs okay on my WM device but there's just too much new stuff going on here:
WTF is a nandroid, a superuser, an ASOP? What's in a Revotoolkit? Do I back up my factory ROM before or after I root? How and why do I install recovery? What does clockworkmod do? Okay, you get the point?
So here's my question: Where TF is the dummy's guide to rooting this device? I know there's a lot of "download this, click on this .bat" stuff out there but I'm looking for the super-one-click that explains it all . . . slowly. Is that out there somewhere?
I know you kids are in the proverbial candy store this week with GB just out and all so I'll say thanks in advance to any of you who could help me do a little catching up.
There is a one click root process that installs super user and such, and I plan on working on it tonight to try to get it to install clockwork recovery at the same time and make it so it sticks. Of you want to Getty on irc tonight there are several guys on there that can help you out.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable, but I've been following the progress as it has occurred and I'll do my best to answer each of your questions.
Nandroid, from what I am aware, is the term for a backup of your current rom that you can create through CWR, or 'Clockwork Recovery Mod'. This is a mod that changes your recovery from the less useful stock recovery to the more useful CWR, which can be used to install new things to your phone and backup or restore roms.
Super user is the program that is put into place through rooting that allows you to selectively grant 'root access' to various programs. When the program wants access, it will pop up with a 'super user request' and you can allow or deny it. This root access will let certain apps do more, and for some apps, it is required for any functionality at all. (Such as root explorer, a file explorer, that will normally display the files on your phone in a read-only manner, but with root access, you can read and write files.)
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and is used to refer to elements that are the standard google code or some variation of it for a given element. These pieces tend to be faster and more stable than the custom lockscreens or dialers that some phones will use.
Revotoolkit is the app that allows a rooted user to install CWR (Clockwork recovery) onto their device, and it exists in large part because (from what i understand) the revolution's file system is a bit different from other phones, so we are not able to use the app ROM Manager which many other phones can use to install CWR and switch ROMS easily and such. Attempts to use rom manager result in non-functional phones, iirc.
In order to back up your stock rom, you will need CWR, and that requires root access to install, so you will back up the stock rom after you root the phone. This is a good idea, as if anything goes wron with your installation of a new rom or other component (theme, boot image, etc.) you can restore your backup and have the standard ROM again, but still with root access.
As above, you install recovery through the revotoolkit app, and you do so in order to be able to install custom roms and backup your existing rom, as well as being able to install themes or other 'flashable zips' that are made to be installed to a rooted phone through CWR. as noted above, installing recovery requires root.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and i'll do my best to help! Everyone here is quite helpful and friendly, and we're glad to have another person on the revolution!
p.s., I am sure people will help correct me if any of this is unclear or incorrect
All that, and the big thing is that there is usually always someone who can help you in this community. While I myself cannot frequent it every night until 1am like I used to, there is still a community of helpers in IRC towards the evening where people can help you navigate and make sure you don't brick your device in all these processes.
In answer to the backup question, you can only backup after you root, because you have to be rooted to install the recovery that allows you to backup.
You started with an oddball in the Android world here. Nothing is the same for this particular phone when it comes to the modding community, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We seem to have less issues and more stability. Because it's a smaller and distinct community, you get more help. Not as much of the "it's called search, use it" crowd.
Also, do a settings - about phone and make sure you're running the latest update (Android 2.3.4) - if you are and your phone is stock, then you are golden for modding. If not, wait until it gets to your phone, then start modding - it will save you some headache.
As for modding - if you have Microsoft on your phone, your not experiencing the true Android experience. Microsoft sucks on Android. If for no other reason, that's the biggest one to mod this phone.
Your missing out on Navigation, decent speech searching, and speech to navigate, etc, etc. And Verizon maps... bah! No one should pay for navigation.
Guys: Thanks. The info above really goes far with helping me wrap my head around it. I'm going to follow some of the the spider holes and see where they take me.
With regard to the forum member's willingness to help each other out, that's something I noticed right away since late August - which is when I picked up the phone and started lurking. You guys really do a great job of keeping it productive and the senior folks - obviously - are extremely responsive.
Thanks again. I'm planning to stick around and I'm looking forward to contributing a little further downstream.
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
doctorhook said:
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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There is a root method in the development section. Check it out!
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Thanks MT. I'll probably take a crack
at this late tonite and feed back.
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