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Shoots, I finally dropped my Tilt on the ground.

Was at a football game last Sunday & dropped my phone on the ground. It must of fell out of my lap when I jumped up to cheer. Now that hurts! I've been babying it too. Oh well, it was bound to happened sooner or later.
Now my Tilt has scratches on the left & right bottom corners. I was thinking about taking a fine grade of sandpaper & sanding it down. Has anyone tried smoothing out a ding on there phone before. If so, what did you use?
I just recently found a small nick on the top corner of my Tilt. I'm assuming I got it the same day I dropped it. That means my phone must of cart wheeled before falling on its back! *OUCH, That hurts literally!*

Sorry to hear that bud,
Check out this site, they carry the housing for our lil toy
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Hope it helps,
Cheers.

farhanali_ said:
Sorry to hear that bud,
Check out this site, they carry the housing for our lil toy
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Hope it helps,
Cheers.
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Thanks for the link! It's good to know that they sell the OEM casing. It's not cheap though.

I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.

I've been doing really well, considering that I usually drop a new device a day or two after getting it.
Last week, however, I was showing off the camera album feature to my sister-in-law and she just had to have a go herself.
Cue my lovely Vario III hitting the ground a second later.
No damage at all though, so I've forgiven her!

gtdRR said:
I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.
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That's when it's time to call AT&T......
"If the phone is all of a sudden not working the way it's supposed to... they replace it, free if it's still under warranty".

gtdRR said:
I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.
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How funny that's where mine got scuffed up too, right next to the stylus. I was hoping the stylus was the one that substained the damage so I can chage it out. Mine also got scuffed up on the bottom left hand side. It bounced around first before laying on the ground. For the weight and size of this phone I was expecting more damage from the fall.
I guess the more your carefull not to drop the phone the more prone it is to happened.

rdr408 said:
How funny that's where mine got scuffed up too, right next to the stylus. I was hoping the stylus was the one that substained the damage so I can chage it out. Mine also got scuffed up on the bottom left hand side. It bounced around first before laying on the ground. For the weight and size of this phone I was expecting more damage from the fall.
I guess the more your carefull not to drop the phone the more prone it is to happened.
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ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.

nimda0 said:
ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.
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I thought they gave you refurbs when using warranty exchange.

I dropped mine couple of weeks ago... I was doing a research paper for my university, and papers were all over the place... and sadly my TyTN II was between two papers... so when I pulled one of them... the device flew in the air and landed on the floor... fortunately there was a thick carpet on the floor... thus no harm is done... but during the next five min while I was checking if my phone is still working... I was so pale and scared :s
Man! I hope this does not happen to any of you guys...
Cheers

dropped mine after 2 weeks of having it - i was jogging to the bus at the time - fumbled it out of my belt ouch and dropped it - i accidentally stamped on it at the same time, on rough knobly tarmac, face-down - i skidded a bit on it too, sort of like a sktebaord - i was like 'omgomgomg' picked it up and by some sort of miricle the screen was untouched - fascia is a bit knacked but it all works just fine, only thing is the tilt mechanism is a bit loose now though its still sturdy (ie i can push the top right side and the screen bit will angle slightly against the body, but only by a few millimetres)

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This will cover any damage to the case and protect it.

I was running into work in a heavy rain carrying a large laptop bag, so I was running fairly spastic, and my Tilt popped out of the case, slid face down on the sidewalk into a puddle. The battery popped out, as well as the stylus. I grabbed all I could find (had to go back later to find the stylus) and shook it out. Then I used a heat gun to gently warm the unit up. after 2 hours, I put the battery back in and it powered up fine, except the touchscreen was dead.
I then left it on my desk on charge with bluetooth, 3g,Wlan and screen full bright on, to generate as much internal heat as possible. After another 2 hours, the touch screen would randomly activate items on the today screen, every minute or so. After watching that for an hour with no real response from the touchscreen yet, I power cycled the phone, and to my surprise, the touch screen worked. Been working ever since.

Luckily the battery poped out otherwise I would think the device would have got fried?

Well, as idiotic as it may sound, I did put the battery back in and power up the phone while it was wet. It seemed to boot up just fine, but I pulled the battery after 15 seconds as to not push my luck.

My Drop . . .
I was running up stairs in my office building (concrete with metal stairstep edging), when something (my Tilt OMG!) suddenly clattered onto the stairs - apparently I had not made sure the magnetic flap on my case was firmly connected - it popped open and the SIM card holder popped out - I fearfully picked it up and inspected - can't find a scratch on it! and it works fine, and nothing seems loose! I'm shocked, surprised and pleased, but will be more careful in the future, obviously (in almost 2 years with my Wizard, I never once dropped it!).

Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?

Ositohbi said:
Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?
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What kind of plastic are you using?
I tried using some Brasso Metal Polish, but it didn't do anything for it. The Brasso would work on scratches, but I have chunks missing from the plastic on my Tilt & dings. I'm willing to try anything as long as I don't harm my baby! I already feel like she's been abused! LOL!

Ositohbi said:
Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?
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I was lucky like you before & dropped it ion carpet, but this time my luck ran out! I guess you can say it was bound to happened somtime.

nimda0 said:
ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.
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Does AT&T do exchanges on accidental drops. What about if its passed the 30day window from the say you pruchased it?

Stupid question (Kaiser the stunt)

Do you have any experience with Kaiser falling on the ground from - let's say 1.5 meters?
Every of my prevous phones hit the ground at leas one time (happens!). They were simple cellphones, not smart- or palm- ones. Single fall meant nothing for these devices.
What about Kaiser and its keyboard? I'm scared that first fall will be the last (death).
(Please don't answer with suggestions like "try not to drop it", ok?)

Hate to admit it but I've dropped mine a number of times. Once on cement, that scratched up the sides a bit but that's all. Other times the battery cover has come off but that's all.
Much stronger than the Blue Angel was. I dropped that phone and that was the end of it. In my mind this phone gets an A in structural design.

I like your answer very much.

dropped it numerous of times.. but only when i had it seated in its leather pocket belt.. while running, while lifting stuff, etc.

yep, mine has wacked the sideway a few times, just surface scraches. i bet if i really tired i could fill the divits in with some plastic modeling compund, sand and touch up with paint and you would nver know the diffrence.
Kyle

Only dropped it once, from about waist height onto concrete. It stayed together, and only suffered a few scratches.
My old HTC Universal was dropped several times, it never suffered more than cosmetic damage.
I think it would be more likely that either phone could suffer more damage from a drop than a normal cell phone, simply because of the larger screen. But I went through several Ipaq's that seemed to self destruct from 30cm drops onto carpet. The total lack of cosmetic damage meant i managed to get away with having them replaceed under warrenty from the big name shop I bought them from since they couldn't 'see' any damage. In comparison, the Kaiser seems a like a Sherman tank...just don't go out trying it!

I'm kind of worried about this... My k750i survived numerous drops onto concerete, followed by being kicked as it fell, causing it to cartwheel accross the floor. The Kaiser doesn't seem *that* robust, to the extent that I bought a payg sim to put in the k750i to take out with me when excessive alcohol consumption will be involved.

I haven't dropped mine once. I don't know but I protect this more than the iPhone I had. . . I almost dropped it but I caught it and it was like 3-4 feet. Seems structurally strong and not the empty plastic feeling.

Would any know where we can get the replacements parts for HTC Tilt 8925 without the front camera?
I dropped mine also. The sad thing is that I dropped it with the HTC case. HTC case does not provide protection on the sides, so I have a good indentation on the bottom right corner of the front face plate. It is right below the OK key.
It bothers me, but the phone is still good as new after the drop.

I have a bunkbed here at school, knocked it off of that a couple times, which is a good 5 foot drop. i've also fallen on it a few times while freelining. (look it up) not a scratch on it, other than from the crap NuShield screen "protector".

dropping it seems ok but dont twist it I had mine in my suit breast pocket when I took it out the screen was broken had to replace the screen the tech said it was probly from bending over and putting pressure on the screen

Optimus 2X build quality

Hi! I was wondering about the general build quality and the durability of this phone!
I have had several HTC phones thru the years, S710, Touch cruise, G1 and hero.
With all of them i was very satisfied with build quality and what falls and dents they could take without being damaged. BUT THEN i got the samsung galaxy s, and build quality sucked, now it have broken on its own twice and i broke the screen twice. So i am now tired sick from samsung and their crappy build quality.
My question therefore is: Is this thing built more solid then the SGS? Is the regular TFT LCD better for my (ab)use?
Thanks for answers and sorry if my english is a little glitchy

olle0047 said:
Hi! I was wondering about the general build quality and the durability of this phone!
I have had several HTC phones thru the years, S710, Touch cruise, G1 and hero.
With all of them i was very satisfied with build quality and what falls and dents they could take without being damaged. BUT THEN i got the samsung galaxy s, and build quality sucked, now it have broken on its own twice and i broke the screen twice. So i am now tired sick from samsung and their crappy build quality.
My question therefore is: Is this thing built more solid then the SGS? Is the regular TFT LCD better for my (ab)use?
Thanks for answers and sorry if my english is a little glitchy
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excuse me sir, but the type of the display has absolutely nothing to do with how strong (durable) the phone is. only the glass that PROTECTS the display matters. samsung galaxy s and lg optimus both have gorrila glass (good stuff for resistance against scraches) i think htc hero also has it.
not sure how you managed to destroy it so well though
but on the general lg optimus 2x build quality is MUCH MUCH better than galaxy s, much more solid phone, samsung feels crap.

Great! Wellmy problem has been that the screen inside the glass broke, both times the glass was intact. On other devices like a itouch 1g the glass broke but not the screen on the inside and it was still useable.
Well, firstly the screen died altogether while i was holding the phone trying to surf the web. No problem samsung took the phone in and replaced the screen. Next abouth one month later my touch buttons died, a little more of a hassle getting samsung to take the phone back this time. A couple of phonecalls and contact with samsung themselfes and they took it in for repair, kept it for 3 weeks and it got back fine.
Then i dropped the phone between one and two feet onto concrete floor, yes i admit this is my fault, but i feel this is something the phone should have managed. Especially since i had a gel cover thingy around it. This time i changed the screen myself, no problem. Then i got on my bike home from work about one month ago, put my phone in my pocket, and altso my keys. Got home and the inner AMOLED was broken again.
Might be that im not carefull enough with the device, but i feel its just a bit too fragile :/
But thanks for the answer and i will probably buy one of these, they go real cheap around here now
Only around 500USD wich i think is pretty darn good for this device.

olle0047 said:
Great! Wellmy problem has been that the screen inside the glass broke, both times the glass was intact. On other devices like a itouch 1g the glass broke but not the screen on the inside and it was still useable.
Well, firstly the screen died altogether while i was holding the phone trying to surf the web. No problem samsung took the phone in and replaced the screen. Next abouth one month later my touch buttons died, a little more of a hassle getting samsung to take the phone back this time. A couple of phonecalls and contact with samsung themselfes and they took it in for repair, kept it for 3 weeks and it got back fine.
Then i dropped the phone between one and two feet onto concrete floor, yes i admit this is my fault, but i feel this is something the phone should have managed. Especially since i had a gel cover thingy around it. This time i changed the screen myself, no problem. Then i got on my bike home from work about one month ago, put my phone in my pocket, and altso my keys. Got home and the inner AMOLED was broken again.
Might be that im not carefull enough with the device, but i feel its just a bit too fragile :/
But thanks for the answer and i will probably buy one of these, they go real cheap around here now
Only around 500USD wich i think is pretty darn good for this device.
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you are one unlucky ole' chap must i say

The metallic band that surrounds the phone scratched far to easy. I have a few marks in there and I keep it well protected. I hate to see what happens if this was dropped onto concrete.

I think it's pretty well built. Feels solid, doesn't creak, weighty but not too heavy etc

pmcguire said:
The metallic band that surrounds the phone scratched far to easy. I have a few marks in there and I keep it well protected. I hate to see what happens if this was dropped onto concrete.
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I thought it was plastic. Why do you think it's metal?
Build quality seems good though, no noise and everything seems tight and in place. Only thing concerning me is the battery cover. What happens to the clips when removing it 100 times? I'm afraid it might get a bit loose.
I haven't dropped it yet, so not sure how it handles such things. Corners on the glass seems ok protected..

Stikkontakt said:
I thought it was plastic. Why do you think it's metal?
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I didn't say it was metal, I said it was metallic (ie looks like metal)
Either way it's very weak and marks easily leaving black marks in it. Really unhappy with my phone and hope to get rid ASAP.

aah..
Well, painted plastic does scratch easily in general. Not easy to avoid..
I don't really care though..

They should build the whole thing with Gorilla glass, it wouls be smudgetastic but indestructible and unscratchable.

not a single scratch on mine.... have it fot 2,5 months now....

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I didn't say it was metal, I said it was metallic (ie looks like metal)
Either way it's very weak and marks easily leaving black marks in it. Really unhappy with my phone and hope to get rid ASAP.
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Build quality is good, but this metalic plastic is really bad.

Jossermuntjewerf said:
not a single scratch on mine.... have it fot 2,5 months now....
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Same here. Looks as nice as the day it was unboxed. I am usually careful when attaching the USB cable, though.

I ended up buying the phone
So far i am very satisfyed, very good build quality. Fast and snappy with CM7 #49.
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[Q] Captivate rather fragile

Dropped my cappy yesterday and killed it.
It only dropped from about shoulder height to the garage floor. Picked it up and found one corner of the display still lit and 3 internal cracks going across the display.
Pulled the battery and powered back up to a dead screen.
I've dropped every cell phone I've owned, this is the first time a drop has damaged one. Seems rather fragile to me. I have the insurance so I'll be getting a new one.
Anyone else kill theirs by dropping?

Shoulder height to floor could be 5 feet or higher. That's a pretty good drop for a phone with as minimal a case as this one.

OwensJC said:
Dropped my cappy yesterday and killed it.
It only dropped from about shoulder height to the garage floor. Picked it up and found one corner of the display still lit and 3 internal cracks going across the display.
Pulled the battery and powered back up to a dead screen.
I've dropped every cell phone I've owned, this is the first time a drop has damaged one. Seems rather fragile to me. I have the insurance so I'll be getting a new one.
Anyone else kill theirs by dropping?
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I dropped mine off my lap getting out of my car.... after the third day of owning it. It cracked the glass but everything still worked. At&t replaced it via insurance claim.
Otterbox case on it now.
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Red_81 said:
I dropped mine off my lap getting out of my car.... after the third day of owning it. It cracked the glass but everything still worked. At&t replaced it via insurance claim.
Otterbox case on it now.
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How is your otterbox? Is it the sticky rubber kind that sticks to your pocket? I still have the body glove one. Tried a hard case but found it to be too bulky and hard to get to the dropdown menu.

OwensJC said:
Dropped my cappy yesterday and killed it.
It only dropped from about shoulder height to the garage floor.
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So, other phones dropped on a concrete surface survived?

Dropped my D1 while holding it to my ear to the hardwood floor before. Battery poped out as well as got a ding on the side of the phone, but screen is fine. Tough little phones

This just in: glass cracks when dropped on concrete. News at 11.
Ok, to be serious, without a case, I would *expect* a fall from that height to break the glass on the screen. Yes it's hardened & scratch resistant Gorilla glass, but it's still glass after all. I mean, look at Pyrex. That stuff is amazing, but drop a Pyrex beaker on a lab floor, and you're still likely to smash it.
I'd suggest a case that includes lots of rubber, and maybe a screen protector. Both will help in case of drops/falls. Personally, I use an otterbox w/o anything over the screen, but it's all up to you...
Also "[Q] This is My Opinion" is not really a question. Just sayin'.

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So, other phones dropped on a concrete surface survived?
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Ya, I've probably had 12-15 cell phones over the years, starting with the Motorola "Brick".
I've dropped every single on of them, even threw one across the room (but thats another story) I've ended up with broken covers and dents and dings, but everyone of them kept on working. None of them ever had any kind of case.

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Ok, to be serious, without a case, I would *expect* a fall from that height to break the glass on the screen. Yes it's hardened & scratch resistant Gorilla glass, but it's still glass after all. I mean, look at Pyrex. That stuff is amazing, but drop a Pyrex beaker on a lab floor, and you're still likely to smash it.
Also "[Q] This is My Opinion" is not really a question. Just sayin'.
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Didn't break the outside glass. The internal glass has 3 cracks running across it but the outside glass is fine.

after that many different phones all hitting the floor at some point dont you think its about time for one to finally break on you? i mean, you can drop a single phone a hundred times from the same distance and it work just fine with just a scratch, but if it hits a sweet spot like a corner, then it could completely shatter,
and that said, my cappy has survived several falls, but it was always in the otterbox, so its survived so far.

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Ya, I've probably had 12-15 cell phones over the years, starting with the Motorola "Brick".
I've dropped every single on of them, even threw one across the room (but thats another story) I've ended up with broken covers and dents and dings, but everyone of them kept on working. None of them ever had any kind of case.
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Have you ever owned a phone with a "glass" screen before?
Either use a case or don't drop it.

I have a cheap $5 rubber case on mine and have dropped several times without issue. As has been said, if it falls just right, it will crack but the gorrilla glass in these is pretty damn durable.

I have no case on mine and have dropped it many times, still looking good here.
Sent from my Captivate

Dropped mine at waist high on concrete. Thankfully I got the Otterbox Commuter on it.
Sent from my Captivate. Andromeda3, Onix 2.0.5, Matted Blues.

ive dropped mine a lot with no issues, i have teh body glove case

pbclst said:
How is your otterbox? Is it the sticky rubber kind that sticks to your pocket? I still have the body glove one. Tried a hard case but found it to be too bulky and hard to get to the dropdown menu.
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It the otter box commuter. Silicon sleeve all around it with a plastic cover that snaps on. Very nice. It slides in and out of my pocket very easily.
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Threw my fuze into a wall. Dug it out and it worked just fine.

my captivate survived 2 drops on...1 on concrete 1 asphalt. Bad habit it setting my phone on my lap in the car. Both times i stood up out of SUV and phone fell probably 4.5-5 feet onto ground....1 fall = 1 small scratch on the plastic at bottom of the phone....2nd drop = no damage....phone is in case now wasn't going to test my luck with a 3rd.

Shattered screen, literally 30 days in...

So, long story short, I've had my Moto z3 play for exactly 30 days now, last night I dropped it from MAYBE, 3 feet off the ground and it landed face down, front screen is cracked / spider-webbed all over, just wondering what experiences anyone has between Motorola doing a repair, local repair shops, and doing it yourself... I don't have the accidental damage insurance Moto offers, but I love this phone and have to figure something out..
Any input would be GREATLY appreciated...

Wish I could help, but I got no info to share except that when/if you get a new one . . . TEMPERED GLASS SCREEN PROTECTOR! Saved me a few times.

bdizzle1686 said:
So, long story short, I've had my Moto z3 play for exactly 30 days now, last night I dropped it from MAYBE, 3 feet off the ground and it landed face down, front screen is cracked / spider-webbed all over, just wondering what experiences anyone has between Motorola doing a repair, local repair shops, and doing it yourself... I don't have the accidental damage insurance Moto offers, but I love this phone and have to figure something out..
Any input would be GREATLY appreciated...
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The screen is very simple to replace I had to replace it when I shattered my screen. Bought one off eBay I think for 50$. Just use a heat gun to loosen the adhesive on the sides. Took me about 15 minutes to do.

Just an update, got it replaced at a local phone repair shop, pretty happy with it other than 1 issue, when I power off the phone, then power it back on, the screen is completely black, even though I can hear the hello Moto boot animation, and can feel the vibrations when I touch the screen. However, if I boot to recovery/bootloader mode and THEN power it on, the screen works just fine. Anyone have any ideas?

Cleanser2012 said:
The screen is very simple to replace I had to replace it when I shattered my screen. Bought one off eBay I think for 50$. Just use a heat gun to loosen the adhesive on the sides. Took me about 15 minutes to do.
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I broke my screen after a week (phone is nice but isn't durable at all).
I'm worried about screen quality. If I get a replacement, are they all the same? Or are some better? It wasn't as bright as I'd hoped to begin with so I don't want it to get worse.

stovo06 said:
I broke my screen after a week (phone is nice but isn't durable at all).
I'm worried about screen quality. If I get a replacement, are they all the same? Or are some better? It wasn't as bright as I'd hoped to begin with so I don't want it to get worse.
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The only difference I've noticed is that on my new replacement screen, it doesn't have the Motorola/Moto lettering logo on the front bottom chin of the screen, as it originally did, other than that I haven't noticed any difference in quality, brightness, etc..

Sorry about your phone. Same thing happened here - phone fell like 2 feet (with a screen protector) and bam, done. A new screen didn't help in my case. I replaced the fpc connector as well and nope, no go. These phones are extremely fragile. I say abandon ship, bite the bullet and get a new phone.

burnxtc said:
Sorry about your phone. Same thing happened here - phone fell like 2 feet (with a screen protector) and bam, done. A new screen didn't help in my case. I replaced the fpc connector as well and nope, no go. These phones are extremely fragile. I say abandon ship, bite the bullet and get a new phone.
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Think I may do the same. Have my moto x4 for a backup. Other than freezing up (which I could probably fix) it's not bad. I really wanted the amoled screen, but very disappointed with the brightness in daylight. Plus I don't want to pay $50+ only for it to not work as yours did. Isn't worth it imo. Which is to bad since I really like the moto interface.
Anyone know of a good replacement?

Any phone is apt to have the screen shatter without a case when dropped, while that doesn't help I want to link a video showing the Z3 Play screen is not that easy to break. The Poetic Karbon can be had for less than $10 which gives adequate drop protection it seems.

fivefour said:
Any phone is apt to have the screen shatter without a case when dropped, while that doesn't help I want to link a video showing the Z3 Play screen is not that easy to break. The Poetic Karbon can be had for less than $10 which gives adequate drop protection it seems.
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This is true. When I dropped and shattered mine, (64gb Moto Z3 Play Unlocked) I had just purchased the device 5 days prior from Target (they had it on clearance for $150, and they screwed up big-time, they had it listed as the 32gb variant, even though the box specifically said 64gb lol), anyways, I dropped it with NO case, and NO screen protector, onto concrete from about 3 feet off the ground..
However, now I have the Lenovo official aluminum bumper case that's compatible with mods, as well as a tempered glass screen protector, and have dropped it at least 4 or 5 times on a hard wood floor, from about 5-6 feet up, and has not even affected it...