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Does anyone keep their phone "naked"?

I've had my phone for a few weeks now with a case on it (body glove mirage). The case is really good, but every time I have to take it off for something I'm reminded how much better the phone feels with no case on it.
I'm curious, has anyone kept it naked? How well has it held up? I'm wondering if anyone who's done this now has scratches or anything on the metal back of the phone.
Thanks!

Mine has been naked since i got it on launch day - still looks new without a single mark on it. I have put my keys in my pocket with it a couple times, but i move them when I realize it.
No scratches on glass, metal or plastic.

I've got butterfingers so for me the case keeps me from tossing he phone across the room when I take it out of my pocket. Plust without it the phone almost feels too light

alphadog00 said:
Mine has been naked since i got it on launch day - still looks new without a single mark on it. I have put my keys in my pocket with it a couple times, but i move them when I realize it.
No scratches on glass, metal or plastic.
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Hmm. This is promising lol. I do keep it in a pocket with nothing else. I used to keep my iPhone 3g in with my keys. The back did not enjoy that, though the front stayed relatively scratch free.
gunnyman said:
I've got butterfingers so for me the case keeps me from tossing he phone across the room when I take it out of my pocket. Plust without it the phone almost feels too light
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I've dropped phones before too, thankfully not my Captivate yet. I just played with it without the case some more and it just makes life so much easier. A lot less reaching.
It's so tough. I've never used cases before because I hate the way all of them feel and the width they add. But I also don't want to destroy my phone like my 3G lol.

If you keep it naked don't drop it! The glass is supposed to be tough and scratch resistant but the paint on the metal back plate scratches easily and the plastics get dings when it hits the ground. I droped my phone twice in one day and now have a ding in each corner. That's 2 dings each time I lost hold of it. Now it has one of those film protectors front back and sides. And I have the body gloves case that I go back and forth between.
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I have also had mine without a case/screen protector since launch day. the only noticeable scratches are light ones at the top and bottom where it curves on the plastic body. other than that, the screen and back are perfect. I have dropped mine a few times, but its usually about from 2-3' up, nothing like a 6' drop.

Interesting stuff. I think ultimately I'll decide to keep the case on. Because I know that one time I drop it or get a decent scratch I'm going to be cursing myself out for not having it on there lol.
Side question: How well do we think these phones will hold their value?
I ask because I was able to sell my 3g on ebay for $130 even though the screen was dead, the camera was dead, and it was really scratched up. Not bad since I paid 200 for it a year and a half before!

InsaneJester17 said:
Interesting stuff. I think ultimately I'll decide to keep the case on. Because I know that one time I drop it or get a decent scratch I'm going to be cursing myself out for not having it on there lol.
Side question: How well do we think these phones will hold their value?
I ask because I was able to sell my 3g on ebay for $130 even though the screen was dead, the camera was dead, and it was really scratched up. Not bad since I paid 200 for it a year and a half before!
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That's the one good thing about buying Apple ANYTHING. It holds its value like crazy. I can tell you from experience that the 1 year old HTC Hero can still fetch 200 bucks. A Samsung Moment can get about $150.
The Captivates are selling on Ebay right now for about $400.

My 3G got scuffed on the back from pulling it in and out of a belt holster that was lined. I finally decided no more holsters.
As for value - I got $190 for my 8GB 3G. It is hard to say about these. Lots of people want contract free phones. Since the captivate has top notch hardware with 16GB internal and expandable storage, I think it is a good value.
If we can unlock them after Froyo (AT&T said they would after 90 days to me anyway) then I think I can get my $150 back I paid for the phone maybe more.
It is all about supply and demand. I am amazed someone paid what they did for my 3G - it is old hardware, but Apple has people fooled. iPhone 4 is going for $900 on eBay - crazy stuff. As long as Apple doesn't sell an unlocked US version contract free, the prices will stay sky high on iPhone. Captivate, not so much. The non-contract price is about $500 so in 2 years what will people pay for a used one?

Well it really depends which network and which phone I think the captivate being the only decent android on at&t will last a bit longer than maybe the vibrant and other variants like the fascinate or epic whose carriers embrace high end android phones
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i go no case.....had my iphone 3g with no case for probably a year and a half, and now i am running a naked captivate also. I actually like the feel of a case better, but have yet to find one i feel like investing in....and it looks so awesome without a case!!

I absolutely love my Body Glove case. It's the best mobile device case I've ever used, and I've had a cell phone for thirteen years.
I kept my first captivate naked for the first three days and noticed that my "Scratch Resistant Gorilla Glass" couldn't hold up to three days in the pocket of my slacks by itself. I was just beside myself as I've had an iphone without a screen protector since the phone launched, and never saw a scratch otherwise.
Seems to me that between the iPhone 4 and Captivate both having threads and threads of scratched devices, Corning needs to rethink the Gorilla Glass formula. Whatever the 3GS screen cover was made of should be the standard. I beat the hell out of that phone and not one scratch to be seen.

I really liked the phone design and lines so I went with zagg max protection. It's just like the screen protector but covers the whole body of the phone, it has no shock protection but its virtually scratch proof.
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Naked since day 1. With the exception of 2x 3"x1/4" eGrips strips I put on the back cover sides to prevent me from fumbling the phone like a wet bar of soap. Love the thin-ness and the egrips don't hinder "pocketability".

Had the Sony X10 then switched to the Captivate. I go naked just keep loose change and keys in other pocket. Love the thinness of the phone. Still searching for that perfect skin. Tried a few but just make the phone bulky. A lot of the wear and tear of a phone has to do with your job and lifestyle. Learning to adapt to how you work or play and also how soon you want another phone(gadget lust) plays a part. I tend to sell/trade a newly released phone within 6 months so I try to keep them like new. But to each his own.

Divinedark said:
I absolutely love my Body Glove case. It's the best mobile device case I've ever used, and I've had a cell phone for thirteen years.
I kept my first captivate naked for the first three days and noticed that my "Scratch Resistant Gorilla Glass" couldn't hold up to three days in the pocket of my slacks by itself. I was just beside myself as I've had an iphone without a screen protector since the phone launched, and never saw a scratch otherwise.
Seems to me that between the iPhone 4 and Captivate both having threads and threads of scratched devices, Corning needs to rethink the Gorilla Glass formula. Whatever the 3GS screen cover was made of should be the standard. I beat the hell out of that phone and not one scratch to be seen.
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been naked for about a week now and havnt got a scratch on my screen yet so i dont know u did to get your scratch. but i do still want a case just havnt got around to getting one yet and my phone is holding up just fine.

How durable is our HD2?

Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?

not very. i've cracked my screen twice.

Osca said:
not very. i've cracked my screen twice.
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oops!!! sorry about that!!!
did you drop it screen facing down? or on some corner of the phone?

I've used mine without any sort of protection since the day it was released in US (end of March). It does not have a single scuff, mark, or scratch anywhere. I just dropped it for the first time a week ago from a counter roughly 2.5 feet onto a hard tile floor and still no scuff, mark, or scratch (I don't know how it fell as it was dark when it happened and I was looking in a different direction; turned my head while headphones were plugged in so it pulled it off the counter).
I'm extremely happy with the durability of the HD2.

Since Nov
Ive had my HD2 since Nov last year...
No cover no protection.. and it looks like new.. I dont know how you managed to break the screen twice.. you probably throw that phone in some weird angles.. but really does last well!

dropped mine from my lap getting out of my low car onto the bitumen and fell back down perfectly flat. absolutely smashed the screen but 2 months later its still working fine and waiting for it to die before replacing the screen. i work installing solar panels (PV) on roofs, crawling though ceilings, etc. sees alot of abuse so while the screen smashed the components inside are well placed. had it before america could get it (in australia)

i got it since 10 months now, without any cover. screen is absolutely clean, but the rest looks a bit used, but not that bad
a friend is using it without respect. throwing it over the table and such things, he never broked something on the phone.. the screen stopped working one time and he needed it to replace cause that, but it didnt break xD
another friend broke his screen when his hd2 fellt on a freakin spoon on the floor (WTF did that spoon on the floor?)

Had it 2 1/2 weeks, no scratches, no scuffs. Just annoying dust under the screen

I have mine almost a year now.
A few weeks ago he started acting weird. Screen flipped sideways and putted speaker on.
I've send it to repair and they replaced the motherboard. Everything is ok now again.
No scratches after such a long time with no screen protector.

ive dropped mine once from about 3 fet and it only made a slight scuff on the corner
ive always had a screen protector but never any other protection and it looks great for the past 4 months
very happy with it

rr5678 said:
Had it 2 1/2 weeks, no scratches, no scuffs. Just annoying dust under the screen
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If you get dust under the screen, then it is a factory defect. Since the screen is glued to the LCD, somewhere around the edge it's not completely sealed. I have had mine for 7 months now and I do not have even ONE spec of dust under the screen, and I carry it in my pocket without any protection at all, all the time.

Halle said:
If you get dust under the screen, then it is a factory defect. Since the screen is glued to the LCD, somewhere around the edge it's not completely sealed. I have had mine for 7 months now and I do not have even ONE spec of dust under the screen, and I carry it in my pocket without any protection at all, all the time.
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When I say dust, I mean there were a couple of hairs in the screen when I got it. They don't affect any viewing pleasure so I didn't return it

Raider digitizer glass shattered, anyone know the proper way to install a new one?

Yes, I already broke my phone. Go ahead, grin and chuckle..now that you've gotten it out of your system, anyone want to offer a little guidance? Never disassembled a newer cellphone before. New glass is ordered and has been shipped, just waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping the process is fairly simple. I do have a specialized set of screwdrivers with all the hard-to-find bits, so that's not a problem ..it even has the tiny blackberry bit.. but from what I can see HTC uses standard micro Philips screws. Yay for standard formats!
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If this phone is anything like hd2 you're gunna want the flat pry tools they sell (search hd2 screen replacement tools). Their not needed but a nice handy thingy to have, other wise you might crack your LCD from flexing it too much.
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I wont grin and chuckle too much, I broke my Atrix after 4 days.

The Vivid screen seems very fragile. 2 of my coworkers have broken theirs within a few weeks of having them. Small drops from waist distance. Its too bad because I have seen the current Samsung models dropped from 6 feet face first and survive
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Yeah, I've cracked mine as well. If you google HTC raider teardown on YouTube.. There's a vid.... Butttt, it's not in English and it's a teardown not a screen replacement tutorial.
It seems as thought HTC has been using reeeeally thin glass in their devices.
Whered you get the glass? It'd be very thoughtful of you to do a tutorial as you do it. I really want to replacement mine but if you remove one on the screws by the battery it voids your warranty

Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.

travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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How much is it for them to fix it?

I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.

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I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I'll do that right now. Thanks alot
(sorry to hijack the thread lol)

They use a double sided tape that hopefully comes with your replacement screen , I tried to replace a water damaged screen and it really wasn't a fun process
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It didn't fall very far..
Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..

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Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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So, how was the installation process? And did it come with the adhesive? I'm going to buy it from that site as well

And then it was fixed..! FTW!
Ok sorry for the delay getting back to you guys.. been frantically waiting for the screen to clear US customs (ugh) and arrive, which it finally did today. I was able to get my hands on it at about 3 this afternoon, but I wasn't able to actually look at it until about an hour ago..
So.. I open the package, big grin on my face..and the first thing I notice is that the glass is AT&T branded. Funny, considering I'm in Canada and using Rogers..but hey a digitizer by any other name...and all that. So! I open the bag that my "tools" came in.. There are 2 blue plastic tools, one a prying tool and one looked a lot like a guitar pick. Cool. There are also 2 screwdrivers included, and I'm momentarily excited, until I realize they're just tiny torqx bits. The Raider uses TINY philips head screws, so those were useless. I put them into my tiny tool set..for later consideration.
Back to the screen. Looks like it the real deal, so I watch half of the teardown vid on youtube.. As mentioned in an earlier post it isn't an english-language vid so aside from seeing the locations of the screws and the methods of levering off the internal components, there's no exchange of information going on. I would like to mention however that the video kind of glazes over the locations and removal processes for some sensitive connections, so having only experienced laptop repairs personally.. I was in fairly uncomfortable and unfamiliar territory - but I was determined.
I tried several ways at getting the phone down to its base components, and finally succeeded in locating the panel's ribbon connector interface on one of the phone's circuit boards. I had to remove the back of the phone, pull the batt, sim and sd, and pull the 4 main screws that lock the housing down onto the phone.. From there its a matter of levering off the black plastic shell and whats underneath is a whole lot of tech in a very tight space. There were 3 or 4 wires I had to disconnect, about 15 tiny screws in 3 different lengths, and then when all was said and done I had to pry the busted panel off using the supplied blue lever tool (pretty handy, actually.) and then lift the lcd away from the metal housing enough to slide the old connector out and the new one through.. This was a very tricky process - I drink way too much coffee to hold completely steady for long..lol.. Finally got it all through, but by this time I had smudged the inside of both glass surfaces pretty badly and it took some serious mechanical dexterity to hold the surfaces and wipe them down without wrecking any of the flapping, loose circuit boards, screens, etc.. it was a frightening experience.. I won't lie.. I definitely feared the worst possible outcome given my limited experience.
So.. the panel's ribbon cable is inserted, the white clip back down securing it.. I manage after several attempts to remember how to put the puzzle all back together, and after about 45 minutes of messing with it I had a visually complete phone again. I hit power, and miracle of miracles the HTC logo flashes on the screen.. I'm hopeful..
The phone boots up, looks great (aside from a few smudges I missed on the inside..grr) so I start touching the screen and here's where we have the first problem..lol.. its recognizing that I'm touching the screen..but not really accurately.. it seems to be that there are dead areas.. So now I'm thinking I broke something..lol..
Smoke break.
Took it all apart again, forgot to clean the smudges, removed and re-seated all the connections, and about 15 minutes later I had it back together again. I booted it up and waited.
Success!! It sees where I'm touching accurately now - I think the ribbon must have moved while I was putting it back together, I was shifting things a lot as I was trying to figure it all out, so I must have stressed the cable enough to move it slightly in the slot.. that, or I didn't have it all the way in / straight the first time I did it. Either way, it works fine now. I was successful on the 2nd attempt, and now the only difference is that this glass feels..rougher? less smooth? not sure how to describe it.. it feels different, anyway.. and the at&t logo of course. Aside from that, you'd never know it was in pieces an hour ago..lol.
Would I do this again? ..I hope I don't have to. Its not impossible, but man, if you're going to try this BE SUPER CAREFUL!! lol..
edit: and no - it didn't come with the double sided tape, but it seems to be staying without having to replace it.. it wasn't too hard to remove it from the panel, but getting it back on straight took some finesse.. lol.. it comes apart easier now when you're tryingn to disassemble it..but seems to be holding together fine on its own.

travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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Corning makes the glass on the Raider/Vivid?
I would suspect it to be more sturdy if its corning, my SGS has been without a screen protector and still does not have any scratches. Yes i know SGS is Gorilla Glass and this is not but i would think it would be stronger.
@ bproulx
You should take it apart again and make a tutorial . I hope i never have to go though what you did. Knock on wood.

lol..might take it apart again..
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.

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So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible

Getting better at taking it apart..lol..
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
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No, the little void sticker on mine was less like a sticker and more like... glue, with paint on it.. lol.. it just flaked apart when I tried to lift it.. but I wasn't concerned with preserving it. Maybe if u use an x-acto or something like that you can lift it intact..? Let me know how you do.
I started getting some random touch input glitches yesterday, and today they got worse.. then my son spilled hot coffee on me and I dropped my phone on the carpet where it of course popped apart..lol..and then when I booted it back up I had some *major* touch glitches.. it was seeing input higher up than the actual contact point, and just acting real buggy..the phone was lagging.. so I took it apart again, completely.. took my sweet time reassembling it this time - I even got out the micro-fibre cloth and cleaned all the glass, and voila.. this time - its like new. I can already tell its put together right this time, which tells me something wasn't quite right before - I'm guessing I didn't get the ribbon cable seated properly before.. there are a lot of tiny, offset contacts on the end of that little cable. Anyway, I guess the moral of the story is screw warranties, and the more times you disassemble your phone the better you get at it.. lol.. it wasn't anywhere near as intimidating this time around. Felt kinda easy, actually. I think I just psyched myself into thinking it would be hard to do the first time around.
I do miss my original glass tho.. I'm thinking about contacting HTC and ordering an oem panel lol.. this one feels.. grippy. The HTC one felt smooth as silk.. I dunno this one kinda feels more like window glass. Meh.. better than a broken ghetto phone. At least now I can whip it out in public without hanging my head in shame and peeking around to see who's looking at my ugly screen. I never even tried HTC directly..I just googled the part and went with the one with good reviews..

OMFG...FML..
Sooo.. I got angry at my Raider today.. started doing the weird touch input glitches again after a battery pull, got frustrated and slammed my phone down on the table in anger...and.... smash. Brand new panel is now ten times as shattered as the old one was. AND...now the phone won't even light up. AND..it looks like I may have cracked the actual LCD this time.. just a small crack at the very bottom - wouldn't even be visible with the shell on the phone.. but.. I'm not very optimistic. I get absolutely nothing on my screen when I boot the phone, all I get is one haptic "bump" and thats it. Nada.
Sooo... looks like I need a new phone. Again.
Lame.
There goes $600.00
....sigh.
Anyone wanna donate an old android device to a guy who's now really really sad and has no phone? LOL.. why did I give away my legend????

Not giving up my phone!! LOL!
Ok so I decided to try my luck at replacing the LCD as well as the busted digitizer that I just re-broke..lol.. back to tmart, and ordered both. I really wish I could have found the whole assembly pre-built, but the only company I found selling both as a single unit had a minimum order of 5 pcs. Out of my price range for repairs, although with my track record maybe it wouldn't have been a bad idea? lol.. anyway, I just bought both parts from tmart and am still waiting for one of them to show up. The good news is I was able to replace the LCD already. It really is just held in there with tape. Like.. there's nothing really holding it all together..you'd think with all those screws and tabs they could have come up with a better way?? Ah well. I have a display again, but until I can get the digitizer and install it I'm without input.. so I can just watch the phone boot and then sit on my lock screen. Or boot into recovery mode and use the vol and power buttons to mess about.. But why..lol. I'll just wait.
I'm just happy that nothing else seems to be affected. I had my alarm going off still with no screen, so that tipped me off that everything else should still be ok. I won't know for 100% certain til I complete the repair, but it looks promising. I picked up a used HTC Magic (ugh) from kijiji for $80 and it came with 3 batteries, 3 chargers, 3 usb cables, 3 leather cases, and a bunch of other crap in threes. Just so I'm not completely without a phone in the meantime. Overall not bad for $80 but man is this phone slow. I installed a custom rom **THANKS XDA!!** on it and it improved the performance and look of the OS a little, but it lags a lot even overclocked when just typing a text.. I can't wait to get my phone back!!
Aside from the screens, this phone is pretty tough. I slammed that sucker down pretty hard that day.. Cmon HTC - why didn't you give us gorilla glass on a $600 LTE phone!?!?!?!? I wish I could find an aftermarket panel that was made from gorilla glass. That would totally rock!

Yeah, i really wish they would've put gorilla glass on it. I used to have the atrix and ive dropped it on tile floor at least 3 times... Nothing. Keys in the same pocket as phone.. No scratches at all.
I didn't want to try my luck, so I just got a replacement vivid

Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words

I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...

I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...

I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.

The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.

A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen

Hobbesfed said:
The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.

bblzd said:
Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?

Hobbesfed said:
Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.

Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5

bblzd said:
I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.

Hobbesfed said:
There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?

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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.

LeoRex said:
There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

Glass breaks easily in back pocket!

I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...

marcfonteijn said:
I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.

The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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degraaff said:
You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.
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^This...
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The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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...and this^^^

I get the impression that the black version seems to be more sensitive.... Fingers crossed 'cause I got the white one
I suppose you didn't use a case or protection of any kind?

I hope Sony say 'Tough titties don't sit on your phone moron!'
Seriously what do people expect...

Looks like some scratches on the right side as well as a chip. Your leaving a lot out it wasn't just a "stuck it in my back pocket and it broke".

Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.

i'm sure they broke too. but no one took the time to post about it until now because they knew that it was their fault for breaking it. now all of a sudden, they are like, hey i should tell everyone about this because it makes me cool.

I carry my Z3C naked, not a single scratch yet.

qbert456 said:
Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.
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Phones are steadily getting larger & thinner, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that sitting on your phone isn't going to do it a world of good.
In other news: camera in phones aren't as good as dedicated cameras.. (thought I'd better mention that too, as that's something else many people have difficulty grasping)

you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.

qbert456 said:
you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.
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People too seem to have got larger and more thin skinned...
I'm not sure how to spell this out.
The laws of physics dictate, larger thinner objects are more likely to break/bend when pressure/weight is applied than smaller fatter ones.
Nothing to do with technology, people need to stop being sheep and apply a little common sense, before doing stupid things then 'blaming the technology' - take some responsibility for yourself ffs.

My Z3C was in front pocket (not very tight pants) and front screen was cracked with no reason.
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marcfonteijn said:
I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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that is basically identical the crack that i had except mine was on the back. Mine is back with Sony at the moment! mine was in my front pocket though.
Just because manufactures make the phone thinner and lighter does not mean the way people use them are any different. people still put them in pockets etc. I have kept my nexus 5 in my back pocket for ages, sat down on it etc and its not cracked. (im 6ft4 and about 17st) i get my sony and breaks in 5 days...when its in the front pocket. There are making things lighter and thinner sure but not to the point where i have to make sure i carry a phone in bubble wrap because they cant make it strong enough for everyday use. Something is wrong with the phones not with the way are they being carried!

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Quoted for truth

You really should get a phone with more durable material if you plan to pocket it. It's just common sense it is fragile..... Belt clip for me!

Glass on Back Of Xperia Z3 C may be inferior.
Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
And I think the specs on the back glass are more vague.
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .

robertkoa said:
Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .
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The front glass seems good, no micro scratches so far. I'm just going to get me a Spigen Ultra Hybrid clear bumper case as soon as it comes out for the Z3C, then it'll be fine.
Right now I have this as a temporary case: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/flexishield-sony-xperia-z3-compact-gel-case-frost-white-p49135.htm

Some people seem to think scratch resistant = shatterproof. Actually the most scratch resistant materials like diamond etc are not hard to shatter/break at all. It has nothing to do with one another.
I was going to buy the Z3c and apply a shatter resistant film on the front and back, but that only protects from knocks to the panel from resonating and breaking the glass, not from pressure from lifting your leg with the phone in your front pocket.
If anyone has a go-to brand of protective film they use to prevent breaking (not so much scratching, as I can replace the film every now and again), I want to know!