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My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
kenny89 said:
My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
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Definatly sounds like a faulty cell in your battery
At least its not the phone thats broken, a battery is easily replaced.
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
Its unlikely its the hardspl. I would guess hardware issue, but if it charges while off then thats unlikely too.
I assume you've tried a hard reset already to rule out any application interferring with it?
Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
3) Hardware issue with the phone - that would just suck!
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
kenny89 said:
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
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A fully charged cell has about 4.3v across it. As its drained of current the voltage drops to about 3.3v, when its fully depleted.
The phone uses this voltage level to display the current capacity of the battery
If a cell fails in the battery, as its capacity reduces its not able to provide enough current. Power = current x voltage
If the phone tries to draw normal current, the voltage drops excessivly to conserve the above formula. This shows in the phone as a decrease in battery capacity. The voltage across the battery drops to below 3.3v before the remaining cells are depleted, and although there is still enough current to suply the phone, there isnt enough voltage. Overall there isnt enough power (P=IV)
A rested battery may show enough voltage for a short while (when you first put it in) but the voltage will drop drasticly as soon as any significant current is drawn.
This is a really common failure in a bettery, and you can spot it very quickly when you see sharp drops in the battery meter.
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Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
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Yes, same thing...
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
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Don of course and even reflashed without installing any application, just synced with PC... same issue. In the mean time I even reflashed the stock SPL to try... and the Diamond is now charging in Off modus, so I'll turn it on tomorrow to give it a trial
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
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I guess the Battery has an issue, but none is available quickly in my country, I'll have to try to order one abroad... let's check...
Thanks anyway for your advices...
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
Check the current on the 3rd party charger.
kenny89 said:
(adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter)
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output 5V/1A , same specs. input is a little different (110-220hz, 0,2A) against (110-220hz, 0,15A).. but that isn't a problem right? The output is the same.
Thats really strange. Yeah its the output that matters,
There should be no difference at all!
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
XzaniX said:
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
kenny89 said:
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
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That noise is caused by a harmonic of the GSM signal. It sounds like the grounding is not correct, either for the speaker or possibly a whole section of the circuit.
Not good!
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
bakman said:
Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
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-hi Bakman, of course this was my first check Anyway, is getting worse, now it even won't charge when switched off So I'll send it for repair I guess... I hate to wait for a new device, pay a huge amount of money for it and when you finally get it, it's defective
robinbb said:
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
Ildefonse said:
Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
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Sounds definately like a s/w problem to me, they will have to provide a fix in a ROM update I guess. Mine is OK at the minute though. Is yours UK or grey import?
Err, I bought the WWE version in Holland. Actually someone bought it for me, but that's not the point.
I did find out that using the advanced config tool to disable the setting "GPRS auto attach" really saves a lot of battery power! Yesterday my phone was idling the whole day and night, and battery only dropped 10-20%.
Has anyone else experienced a problem where battery meter sticks at around 65% despite being fully charged. When soft reset it goes to 100%.
It's not a battery cell issue - battery life is fine. It's simply a meter misread.
Not that i have noticed although ill say that the battery meter on the Diamond isnt all that great...its not really a good indicator as to how long the battery has before it goes dead.
Yup, mine tends to stick at 80%. At least it did in ROM 1.35. Burned yesterday the official 1.37 and we'll see how it goes...
sometimes, mine is also doing it...still cant figure out why thou...
OK, with the new ROM, the phone connected to the PC charged smoothly from about 46% to 100%. I'll see probably tomorrow if the charger makes any difference.
How long do you find the battery takes to charge from around 15% to 100% using the power pack, not computer connection???
Hi Guys,
Does anyone has more info about this ?
When i charge my device (from charger or by PC Usb), it won't go pass 89% battery charge, therefore never warns me when it's complete.
I know it charges to 100%, so it seems to be a problem with the software.
This is quite annoying, has i never get the "Battery Charged Warning" while plugged in.
My ROM Version (Original) 1.37.410.3 PTG
Cheers and thanks.
Anyone still experiencing a flakey battery meter? Sometimes mine will read 90%. Then, within two minutes it will be down to 45%. But if I soft reset, it will go back up again. Some days it's all over the place and I actually have no idea what the battery level is.
I'm using QuickMenu. Anyone have any suggestions or similar experience?
Happened to my unit as well. It doesn't happen all the time though. Sometimes it will charge up to 100% just fine and other times it hangs somewhere between 70-90%.
I've this problem, the battery meter indicates for a lot of time the same value (eg. 98%) but if i'll reset the phone i can see the real value (eg. 45%)
it's very strange
rom Aztor
NightWolf88 said:
How long do you find the battery takes to charge from around 15% to 100% using the power pack, not computer connection???
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depends on what current the powerpack is supplying, it will probably be either 500mA (0.5A) or 1A. Obviously the higher the current the quicker it will charge.
A PC USB connection can provide 500mA maximum, where as a mains carger will supply 1A or 2A (think its 2A if you have a proper Diamond charger).
A car charger will vary, when the engine is off you will get 1A if you are lucky. With the engine running you will get 2A, but during the engine starting you can get a peak of up to 5A (phone killingly good).
All of these measurement can vary!
i have the same issue, too
yes. my battery meter is incorrect, too. exact same behaviour as you mentioned. 65% -> after reset 100%. nearly all the time. that's very bad, because my battery lives about 1 day without charging and in the evening i don't know how full or how empty my battery is. sometimes the remaining 8 % are real 8 % and sometimes (after a restart again) the shown 8 % are more then 30 %.
I've tried about 6 roms and get the same thing with all of them. It happens infrequently but is still annoying. Basically, if I'm suspicious of the battery level, I soft reset to verify.
it's "normal" that behaviour, because also battery check is made by OS (WinMobile) at prestabilite polling times, search in the registry for "batterypoll" and you'll see a value expressed in seconds (I suppose they are secs), try to lower those values and see what happens, of course shorter polling times drain battery faster
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Any solve for this now?
I also have this problem, sometimes only but still very anoying.
A soft reset seem to be the only solution at the moment.
It happen to me always too!
It was 40%, after I played Monopoly games for 1 hour, it still showed about 39%. When I soft-reset, now it show only 25%. What a huge drop!
im also getting this problem.. anyone has gotten a solution to this yet??
Maybe worth a try.
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6369
I think that why TF3D doing reset during night while charging...
I disable TF3D every night, so no reset at night but as side effect sometimes battery does'nt arrive to 100%
My diamond has sometimes the same behavior. The battery gauge sometimes showes only 50 percent or so and after a soft reset it showes full. I had this issue a few months ago, too. The the battery gauge showed correct values and now I have the same issue again.
I am pretty sure it is some kind of a software problem, but I have no idea which software disturbs the battery gauge. I had this issue never with my touch, but only with the diamond. I anyone has suggestions ülease let me know! Thank's a lot.
Hi,
Just purchase 2 HTC HD2 replacement batteries from ebay (Non original)
and facing a problem in charging both of them.
When I power up the phone it shows 80%, but when charger is connected,
it does not show the charging icon and the notification LED keeps blinking between amber and green.
Any one got any idea? Both the batteries defective?
I use a meter to measure the batteries, one got 4v the other 4.02v.
Seems ok but just cannot charge inside the phone.
Help and advise needed. Thank you.
Got the same issue here. They will charge up to 68% then stop.
Have to turn off phone and plug in again to charge the final bit - OR - take them out and put in caddy charger.
Battery replacement charging problem
I also have the same problem but this issue happen only if you use the device while charging the battery. If the issue occur try turn off the screen (not power off) and wait around 3-5 mintues then it continue charging the battery without any problem. The problem is occur only if we use the power too much such as Telephone call, Wifi, GPS then it back to blink green and amber again and again. Howerver I found out that sometime after soft reset the battery report it have been charge during green and amber blinking (in my case I upload youtube of 120MB and take quite a long time around 2-3 hours the battery indicate 6% and not increased until I softreset them then become 72%)
Howerver, this is almost not acceptable since it should be charged normally in any condition.
touchu said:
I also have the same problem but this issue happen only if you use the device while charging the battery. If the issue occur try turn off the screen (not power off) and wait around 3-5 mintues then it continue charging the battery without any problem. The problem is occur only if we use the power too much such as Telephone call, Wifi, GPS then it back to blink green and amber again and again. Howerver I found out that sometime after soft reset the battery report it have been charge during green and amber blinking (in my case I upload youtube of 120MB and take quite a long time around 2-3 hours the battery indicate 6% and not increased until I softreset them then become 72%)
Howerver, this is almost not acceptable since it should be charged normally in any condition.
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Do you guys think this is due to "low quality" batteries that could not be charge properly in the phone. Can only be charged using cradle....??????
same issue here, except mine will go amber/green regardless of power % left.
I have seen mine doing amber/geen even when it'[email protected] 10% with screen off.
That would all seem to point at the phone drawing more power than can be put in the battery at the same time.
I reported it to the ebay seller in anycase, who says he will contact the factory.
cheap ebay batteries causing problems?
My cheap battery does the same if I use cheap craddle that came with it. However if I use original charger and stock cable it is all fine.
Oh yes and original battery used in cradle does the same orange/green.
However in any case living it for 3-4 minutes starts charging process.
When it's charged up fully it's def a massive improvement on the original though. I can get almost 50 hours out of it now, the original one I had only got 24 at a push
blanco360 said:
When it's charged up fully it's def a massive improvement on the original though. I can get almost 50 hours out of it now, the original one I had only got 24 at a push
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what actual battery do you have Blanco, any chanve of a link to where you bought it, i have ordered a momax but are still waiting, this standard battery is killing me
this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-2x-Batter...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item2a035b4473
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this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-2x-Batter...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item2a035b4473
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thanks for that, and you definatly think it lasts longer than the original htc ? are you a heavy user?
Yes - BUT - mine came with a 750mA, and I think you guys will have a 1230 right?
Hey Guys,
in the last few days I noticed following strange battery issues:
When I go to bed in the evening I plug my phone to the charger,
in the Morning I have a green LED and battery is at 100%.
A few minutes later the Battery has a massive Drop from 100%
(From 100% to 58% or 100% to 38% or 100% to 61%)
After I noticed this, I installed Current Widget to log the battery
consumption.
Here is what the Log says:
2011/06/22 02:16:15,64mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:18:20,56mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:19:39,54mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:22:00,50mA,100%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:23:00,48mA,100%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:26:04,-104mA,100%,4.175V
2011/06/22 02:28:12,-104mA,100%,4.175V
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2011/06/22 08:24:33,-48mA,100%,3.874V
2011/06/22 08:25:34,-78mA,100%,3.874V
2011/06/22 08:26:34,-46mA,61%,3.869V
2011/06/22 08:27:34,-154mA,61%,3.869V
Two whole Logs can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/yfzBcJk3
So my question is:
Why is the battery depleting between 02:26:12 an 08:24:33
while still plugged in?
Is this a Bug?
How can i fix it?
At the moment im running my IncS on Android Revolution HD 1.0.2 ROM
(I have noticed this also with 1.0.1 and Unitiy Kernel...)
It's not a good idea to leave the phone pluged to the charger. When its fully charged i always take the charger out.
There is several threads about that, e.g. this one.
same here m8
but i found, that cause is Current Widget. Uninstall it and everything gonna be ok. if not - install Power Tutor and find the way your power disappearing.
i have around 1% battery drop every 2 hours and 30-40% with Current Widget installed. (on stock and Android Revolution HD ROMs)
jkolner said:
It's not a good idea to leave the phone pluged to the charger. When its fully charged i always take the charger out.
There is several threads about that, e.g. this one.
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Erm ... when I am asleep I wont plug out my Phone, because, well I am sleeping
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
letmedanz said:
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
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Nice explanation! Always wondered what was going on here. So key is not to charge it over night?
letmedanz said:
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
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Thank you for the explanation.
VaderXI said:
Nice explanation! Always wondered what was going on here. So key is not to charge it over night?
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well, key is to charge it as long as required.
Once it reaches 100%, any additional charging is a waste of electricity
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well, key is to charge it as long as required.
Once it reaches 100%, any additional charging is a waste of electricity
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Good point! Do you know if the phone's alarm still works when the phone is off? This was the case for my old i8910 hd and was quite handy for saving battery at night
UPDATE: No it doesn't!
Hello everyone ....
I have a problem with charging the battery on my HD7...
When I leave the phone on the charger overnight ... the morning shines green light 100% battery, but after a few minutes show a lower value ... eg 90%. During the day, the battery drain is normal.
When the phone on the charger during the day and when the battery is charged (quickly turns off the charger) ... there is no effect of the rapid discharge of the battery. The battery is drained properly.
I concluded that the charger charges the battery to 100%, and then turns off. The phone starts to use battery the rest of the night. The phone is still on the charger. I think that is not normal behavior of the phone. My Trophy has not worked in this way
I use Nextgen 2.0 rom. and battery status v4.1.0
I wonder, the battery is bad or the software or something else.
thank you
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I solved the problem by buying a new charger
Anybody can help him
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No need, look at the bottom of his post - he fixed the problem with a new charger.
I had similar problem, changed to new one.
when u leave the phone on the charger overnight, what happens is that th ephone fully charges. to 100 % and then the charger shuts off. but the phone runs on fthe battery especially if u have the radios or wifi on but the indicator thinks that its still on the charger ...but the wifi radios ect is using the power
when u unplug the phone, the battery drains down to actual level aka rapid draining
I think battery or charger should be the problem but probably battery. pretty cheap on ebay