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so im really confused im not sure what the difference between all of these are. i get froyo is the new os and speeds up your phone. im on rogers and i hear the new update is coming soon so im thinking i will just wait. is 2.2 gonna fix the problems that people are solving with oclf and cognition? what does the oclf exactly do? once it is done i have to update my os manually after that dont i? same question for cognition, is one better then the other?
im sorry i have searched alot and im still confused so any help would be great. if i do update to 2.2 is there any reason i should further update it by adding oclf or cognition or would it be pointless, can u even add them if you are using 2.2 or can it only be done in 2.1
messxxxedge said:
so im really confused im not sure what the difference between all of these are. i get froyo is the new os and speeds up your phone. im on rogers and i hear the new update is coming soon so im thinking i will just wait. is 2.2 gonna fix the problems that people are solving with oclf and cognition? what does the oclf exactly do? once it is done i have to update my os manually after that dont i? same question for cognition, is one better then the other?
im sorry i have searched alot and im still confused so any help would be great. if i do update to 2.2 is there any reason i should further update it by adding oclf or cognition or would it be pointless, can u even add them if you are using 2.2 or can it only be done in 2.1
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Not sure what you mean.. OCLF is an acronym for one click lag fix.. which the name should be self explanatory. Cognition is a captivate rom created by designgears.
There are many lag fix tools - OCLF is one, Voodoo, etc. No one knows what an official Froyo (2.2) release will bring - or what it will fix.
If you do go to a 2.2 release (which could be a beta, Cognition, or something else) you will have to decide if you also want to install a lag fix. Some ROMs include them, but install is a second step.
i understand
what oclf is but like does the cognition rom do more then what oclf does. people talk about there benchmark score after they install ryans oclf. does cognition do the same thing and add more features. is cognition better then a oclf
OCLF is obsolete and never did much more than artificially boost benchmark scores.
Hey All,
I was just wondering if data2ext would be possible for our beloved milestone. Could some devs please take a look at this - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/ ?
I hope this will be possible.
mohitrocks said:
Hey All,
I was just wondering if data2ext would be possible for our beloved milestone. Could some devs please take a look at this - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/ ?
I hope this will be possible.
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I'm going to say no (on Froyo) currently - data2ext seems to requires the same thing that apps2sd (CM) does, and the G.O.T. 2.2.1 leaked SBF doesn't support it.
If you still have 2.1u1/2 from MOTO - then maybe.
So you are saying that the former one is may be compatible but no for the new one ? may be we have to wait for the officiall froyo for this ?
Craven68 said:
So you are saying that the former one is may be compatible but no for the new one ? may be we have to wait for the officiall froyo for this ?
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Yes, the 2.1 moto kernel supports it, but the leaked 2.2 moto kernel doesnt. Hopefully the official kernel 2.2 will. So if your phone is still on eclair it could be potted, but I don't think any devs are focused on eclair roms much anymore
The way it's implemented requires ext access from Android. This requires a kernel module which for now does not work in our leaked 2.2.1 based builds. It will probably work when Moto releases the source code for the kernel. As of now, ext access is only on 2.1 based builds.
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The way it's implemented requires ext access from Android. This requires a kernel module which for now does not work in our leaked 2.2.1 based builds. It will probably work when Moto releases the source code for the kernel. As of now, ext access is only on 2.1 based builds.
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So will this work with eclair then? (2.1) And if yes, how?
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So will this work with eclair then? (2.1) And if yes, how?
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yes, it should work on eclair - if a dev is willing to try to port it.
Can't wait, hope this will get ported so I can mess with it my Milestone.
Tried this on my Droid tonight and had no luck. On my old phone(CDMA HTC Hero200) I was going from 190MB of internal space to around 473MB of internal space. I just tried it tonight on my Droid with all the coding on Better Terminal Emulator Pro and had no luck whatsoever. I am running CM7.1 Stable on my Droid. It's Android 2.3.7 Gingerbread and thats what I had on my Hero as well. I'll keep looking at the coding and everything and see what I can do for us. I'll talk with some guys over in the Hero Forums about it too. There are different types of data2ext versions as well that may be of some use to us.
EDIT: OK,I had an old android app sitting around on my external called swapper.apk. I gave it a try on my droid today as well and had no luck. I used to use that app on my old T-Mobile G1 way back in the day. Thought it MAY work but got nothing,I'm at a loss right now but will keep working on this for everyone!
I haven't been able to mess with my phone a lot, as I have been very busy with TF2.
Recently my phone broke (AGAIN!) so I had to revert it to Stock.
But I was running some hacked-up version of the 2.2 beta. When my new phone comes, I want to be running the 2.2 stock firmware.
Where is the offical 2.2 stock ROM?
No such animal for AT$T, yet.
If I remember correctly, 2.2 was supposed to be out in September. What happened?
gir489 said:
If I remember correctly, 2.2 was supposed to be out in September. What happened?
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Samsung happened...
There was a post around here about carrier/samsung drama, royalties, etc.; no official Samsung 2.2 rom out (though there are a lot of roms which i'd reckon to be way, way better than anything samsung could put out).
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF oh well.
Any good unoffical 2.2 builds?
gir489 said:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF oh well.
Any good unoffical 2.2 builds?
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Plenty of them. Just check in the Dev section and browse all the ROM's. Pretty much all of them are running either 2.2 or 2.2.1. Just find one with the features you want and flash.
My preference is Perception. Runs smooth for me and does everything I need.
gir489 said:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF oh well.
Any good unoffical 2.2 builds?
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There is an official rogers build. Also Cognition 3 and firefly both of which are based on the official rogers build (2.2). Check in android dev section.
I read that it is not a royalty issue it is a carrier issue. The 2.2 for Vibrant is starting to roll out today through Kies, and I read that it was released to T-Mobile in November. But T-mobile had to add their icons and bloatware before release. So ATT is most likely the reason we don't officially have Samsung ATT release. Either all the bloatware like Elcair 2.1 or they just don't care.
Wow, an official 2.2 release from a US carrier! Just found the official statement at http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsung-Vibrant/Samsung-Vibrant-software-upgrade-to-Android-2-2-Froyo-now/td-p/678871.
ajreynolds said:
Wow, an official 2.2 release from a US carrier! Just found the official statement at http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsung-Vibrant/Samsung-Vibrant-software-upgrade-to-Android-2-2-Froyo-now/td-p/678871.
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So you haven't seen the 3-1000 other threads talking about the Vibrant getting Froyo?
Hi bought my milestone this week and wanted to know about 2.2 update wen it is coming out i checked the phone spec on gsm arena and it said upgradable to 2.2 ? Thanks
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
alijs said:
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
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thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
byaco said:
thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
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Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
chambo622 said:
Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
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It doesnt matter anyways. I'm running gingerbread for several days now and it runs flawless. The speed is amazing and the improvement compared to 2.2 is noticeable. You wont be needing a 2.3 kernel. I think the milestone can stay with this. Installing an AOSP Gingerbread + some memory tweaks in open recovery juices the most from this phone. Flash works perfectly! Can it get better than this?
I believe when the minor bugs(mostly unnoticeable) in Gingerbread will be fixed everything is going to be great.
So who cares about motorola anyways?!
may someone kindly explain how is this possible to "run" gingerbread on froyo kernel (as same as it was with froyo running on eclair kernel)?
What exactly do we get by running new OS without new kernel?
What will be better if we would have gingerbread kernel for the gingebread roms?
It would be nice to know why is this, not just how it manifests.
With the froyo leak, a new kernel was released, so there are a lot of ROMs that can replicate froyo performance for real now... and please correct me if i'm wrong but gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right? so thats why we've already got froyo as well as GB roms for milestone...
if we are lucky end of February, early March official release is to be expected
Yeah froyo will be one your er.. our phone in two weeks.
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gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right?
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no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
MuF123 said:
no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
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Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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Caz666 said:
Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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You are probably right to a certain extent...the kernel and motor drivers are not release/final. But for all we know, the latest leak is final.
What problems remain for you?
The latest android leak has excellent battery life and performance in CM7 is through the roof...
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I have a sony ericsson x8 and I can not download certain applications from the market. I was told it is because of the old version of android 2.1 I have.
Should I upgrade it to version 2.2? If yes, how can I do that?
Are there any disadvantages on doing that?
Thanks.
Some apps need armv7 to run, we can't change that but if you want to upgrade, read the stickies.
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There are no disadvantages (well, if you like the X8´s Timescape, you´ll think that the fact, that it doesn´t work on Froyo is a disadvantage, but you can run Arc Timescape on it.), everthing is working with Froyo.
It´s smooth, you can take 3MP photos and VGA videos with it, you can play games with it, zoom with two fingers in the browser.....some people also say that the battery life is better with Froyo than with SE´s Eclair....just read nthe guides to install it, and then read the descriptions of the ROMs, and you´ll know everthinjhg you have to know before you can flash it.
Since I've been on custom software, I've never looked back, go for it Dude!
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ow boy...
codfreak said:
There are no disadvantages (well, if you like the X8´s Timescape, you´ll think that the fact, that it doesn´t work on Froyo is a disadvantage, but you can run Arc Timescape on it.), everthing is working with Froyo.
It´s smooth, you can take 3MP photos and VGA videos with it, you can play games with it, zoom with two fingers in the browser.....some people also say that the battery life is better with Froyo than with SE´s Eclair....just read nthe guides to install it, and then read the descriptions of the ROMs, and you´ll know everthinjhg you have to know before you can flash it.
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ow boi, smells good....
First of all thank you guys for the replies.
codfreak, I don't understand the meaning of your reply because I'm a new in this issue.
What is Froyo? Is my 2.1 version (or 2.2) also called like this?
If not, should I upgrade my X8 to Froyo and not to 2.2? and if I want to upgrade to 2.2 (or higher) anyway, can I do that?
gtilx said:
First of all thank you guys for the replies.
codfreak, I don't understand the meaning of your reply because I'm a new in this issue.
What is Froyo? Is my 2.1 version (or 2.2) also called like this?
If not, should I upgrade my X8 to Froyo and not to 2.2? and if I want to upgrade to 2.2 (or higher) anyway, can I do that?
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That's a code name...here we go!
Android 1.5 - Cupcake
Android 1.6 - Donut
Android 2.1 - Eclair
Android 2.2 - Froyo
Android 2.3 - GingerBread
Android 3.0 - HoneyComb
Android 2.4/ 4.0 - Ice Cream Sandwich
gtilx said:
First of all thank you guys for the replies.
codfreak, I don't understand the meaning of your reply because I'm a new in this issue.
What is Froyo? Is my 2.1 version (or 2.2) also called like this?
If not, should I upgrade my X8 to Froyo and not to 2.2? and if I want to upgrade to 2.2 (or higher) anyway, can I do that?
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Android versions get names by candys alphabettically:
Android 1.5 - Cupcake
Android 1.6 - Donut
Android 2.1 - Eclair
Android 2.2 - Froyo
Android 2.3 - Gingerbread
and so on...
Which means that Froyo is codename of Android 2.2. Also I would recomend you to try GingerDX by Doixanh which is really fast and fully workable Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM.
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Godra said:
Android versions get names by candys alphabettically:
Android 1.5 - Cupcake
Android 1.6 - Donut
Android 2.1 - Eclair
Android 2.2 - Froyo
Android 2.3 - Gingerbread
and so on...
Which means that Froyo is codename of Android 2.2. Also I would recomend you to try GingerDX by Doixanh which is really fast and fully workable Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM.
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For Gingerbread, do I need to install Gingerbread + GingerDX or only one of them?
not to cast any disrespect to the authors of those customed ROM but honestly has anyone seriously gone in and check through their codes? Right there could very well be the sneakest trojan you will ever find behind your next banking transaction.