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Mugen powerbattery 1800mah for legend full review

Hei,
Ever since i saw this thread, I was considering a better battery for my legend.
To begin with the stock battery (Standard HTC battery) that came with the phone.
1. It used to last me for 2 hrs 10mins of voice call
2. If GPS was on it takes about 25mins to fully drain from about 95%
3. between 80to40% whenever screen was switched on, phone used to heat up.
4. At times (lately) even when the phone was in stand by in my pocket, it used to heat up so badly, i had to refrain from keeping the phone in my pocket. It actually felt like a "hotpack" in my pocket.
Phone is just perfect except for the retarded battery that comes with it. Whats the use an awesome phone if it you cant go through a day of light to moderate usage without requiring a charge?
So i decided to try out the mugen power batter. I love my legend, so even though battery was a bit pricey about INR.2,153.00 (USD46.95) (after shipping). I ordered a mugen battery 1800mah from their official website on 8th Nov. They took about 14 days to ship it to India from Hongkong (3 days waiting as batteries were out of stock).
Received it a week back. and currently i am running the 4th recharge cycle.
Immediately installed the battery on receiving it. (Couldn't wait!!)
The battery came with instructions to fully charge the battery (even after its fully charged as indicated by the green LED on phone) for 10-12 hrs for each cycle and nearly drain the battery before charging it again. (I took it to 5% each time, charged for a minimum of 11 hrs)
The fit
I was dead scared seeing the comments in this thread. But the battery was a perfect fit, infact the same fit as the stock battery. It would directly slide out without any poking / fingering
Tip - There is a small red plastic stick in the battery compartment to assist in battery removal. I dont have to use it though
The following are the actual statistics i have written down after each cycle. (Help me post a screen shot pls)
Recharge cycle 1
1st charge for 12hrs continuoesly
Voice calls 29% - 45min 44 sec
wifi 30% - 7 hrs 22min
Display 27% - 2hrs 12min (full brightness for 1hr)
Mpas 8% - GPS -23min, data 10mb
cell standby 4% - 7hrs 22min
phone idle - 2% - 5hrs 12mins
Total 7hrs 22mins from 100% to 6%.
Dint record the 2nd cycle, but was difficult to drain the battery in the next 13 hrs, had to switch on GPS + music on for 30mins on speakers + torch app with about 80% brightness for 1 hr to drain it before 11pm the next day.
I wanted to charge battery for atleast 10 hrs before leaving for office
Recharge cycle 3 Unbelievable!!!
3rd charge for 11hrs
Voice calls 12% - 1 hr 15min 12 sec
wifi + bluetooth 44% - 37 hrs 12min (dint turnoff bluetooth/wifi) transferred about 153mb in this cycle
Display 17% - 3hrs 12min (played angry birds for 1hr!!)
Mpas 13% - GPS -14 hrs 12min, data 43mb
cell standby 9% - 7hrs 22min
phone idle - 5% - 5hrs 12mins
Total 37hrs 31mins from 100% to 4%.
As you could see there was a drastic increase in battery performance after the 3rd recharge.
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Note - I am using juice defender (free version) + the phone is on strictly GSM only mode. (Exhausted my monthly data quota on 3g )
Currently I am charging it for the 4th time. Will post the final results again.
Also as froyo users are posting better battery performance, expect even more longevity of the battery once i receive my OTA (damn ever eluding update)
Conclusion - Definitely its a drastic improvement from the stock battery and the best part is it resolves the only problem i had with my legend, heating of the phone for no reason!
Makes me wonder why legend doesn't come with such a battery on default purchase.
Thanks Mugen for such a great battery
Do drop your comments and suggestions below or any standard benchmarking tools that i can use ...

Review part 2
< Reserving for 4th, 5th and final cycle >

Heating up is unusual with legend under normal usage, are you sure it has to do with the stock battery?
Some people did report problems with juice defender, your case may be different though.
Gotta say mugen battery was very lasting initially if you follow their instructions properly, but after using it for couple of months I don't think iam getting that same performance, its much less.. though still better than the stock one.
My mugen fits lil tighter than the stock one, its hard to get it out without that red lever. Iam kinda surprised about yours being the same fit as stock one. Dunno if they changed anything.

lessirey said:
Heating up is unusual with legend under normal usage, are you sure it has to do with the stock battery?
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No heating issues at all after replacing the stock battery with the Mugen one. Havent changed / installed any new apps / software for the past 2 weeks. 1 week with the new battery.
So i can confidently say the stock battery is the culprit.
lessirey said:
Gotta say mugen battery was very lasting initially if you follow their instructions properly, but after using it for couple of months I don't think iam getting that same performance, its much less.. though still better than the stock one.
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Hope mine gives the same performance at a later stage as well. Can it be that you got used to the longer battery life and dont realize it now?
lessirey said:
My mugen fits lil tighter than the stock one, its hard to get it out without that red lever. Iam kinda surprised about yours being the same fit as stock one. Dunno if they changed anything.
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I dont know if they have made any changes to the battery. My Mugen slides right out of the slot on tilting the phone after opening the case just like the stock battery!

pavan_bitsgoa said:
Hope mine gives the same performance at a later stage as well. Can it be that you got used to the longer battery life and dont realize it now?
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Good luck to you
It could be that, but iam sure it doesnt last as long as it was initially.. but still better than the stock one for sure.
pavan_bitsgoa said:
I dont know if they have made any changes to the battery. My Mugen slides right out of the slot on tilting the phone after opening the case just like the stock battery!
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Mine doesnt slide right out like the stock battery, it does need lil effort. (ie. the red lever) May be they made some changes after selling many pieces ?

lessirey said:
Gotta say mugen battery was very lasting initially if you follow their instructions properly, but after using it for couple of months I don't think iam getting that same performance, its much less.. though still better than the stock one.
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I've experienced the same short life when charging through USB, but when I use the wall charger, it lasts much longer.

Going to bite the bullet & try out one of these, just awaiting the money to be put in my PayPal account.

great review..pavan
I would like the link to official page exactly where u did shop and also the detailed battery product number which we have to select...I am from Mumbai..

zabaknilesh said:
great review..pavan
I would like the link to official page exactly where u did shop and also the detailed battery product number which we have to select...I am from Mumbai..
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xxx.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-legend/mugen-power-extended-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
Change the xxx to www

LG Revolution 2900 mAh Battery is amazing!

If you have a Revolution you must get the 2900 mAh Lithium Battery.
I am a moderate low user running GingerVolt V1.2. I unplug my phone at 6AM and go to work. I talk for about an 1hr/day, surf the net, email, game for 1hr/day. I pass a 4G area on the way to work but for the most part I am strictly 3G with LTE on. I used to get 9-10 HRs before my phone would die.
I bought my 2900 mAh battery from the verizon store. My phone has been unplugged for 1 Day 15 Hrs with 25% battery left!!! I could go 2 Days but that would be pushing it.
The extended battery is bulky and does make the phone a bit heavier but I think I have a better grip of it now. The protrusion seems to be a good finger wedge. Furthermore, I really didn't feel a difference while my phone was in my pocket.
Overall I fell in love with my phone again. I can be free of the power cord longer than you.

DelFrogo said:
If you have a Revolution you must get the 2900 mAh Lithium Battery.
I am a moderate low user running GingerVolt V1.2. I unplug my phone at 6AM and go to work. I talk for about an 1hr/day, surf the net, email, game for 1hr/day. I pass a 4G area on the way to work but for the most part I am strictly 3G with LTE on. I used to get 9-10 HRs before my phone would die.
I bought my 2900 mAh battery from the verizon store. My phone has been unplugged for 1 Day 15 Hrs with 25% battery left!!! I could go 2 Days but that would be pushing it.
The extended battery is bulky and does make the phone a bit heavier but I think I have a better grip of it now. The protrusion seems to be a good finger wedge. Furthermore, I really didn't feel a difference while my phone was in my pocket.
Overall I fell in love with my phone again. I can be free of the power cord longer than you.
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I got that once with stock battery but that was me sending like 3 texts and other than that not touching my phone

is it worth $50 though

Downside is that my case doesn't fit anymore. But, the battery makes the phone fit the holster without the case. Sure do miss the protection the case would give though... One drop that breaks the phone would make me regret having the battery instead of the case...

ozymandiaz said:
Downside is that my case doesn't fit anymore. But, the battery makes the phone fit the holster without the case. Sure do miss the protection the case would give though... One drop that breaks the phone would make me regret having the battery instead of the case...
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Agreed.. It fits in the holster but does not fit well and has a tendency to fall out. I saw at a VZW store that they had the same holster/case I use (with the kickstand) for the Bionic, and it says it fit with extended battery. Dang it. I want that for our Revo!!

jackpot08 said:
is it worth $50 though
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I paid $27.18 total. I got a 25 dollar discount somehow at checkout and I got free 2 day shipping. I didn't do anything special or login or do coupons.

I got the same discount in a VZW corporate store when it rang up. Despite the size and weight, it's nice not worrying about power all day.
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I've had the extended battery 3 days longer than I've had the phone. I used to keep it and a standard battery fully charged but the extended worked so well I put the standard away. When I have strong a strong signal I can use the internet for hours and see only a minimal decrease. Its well worth the money.
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I have the extended life battery from Verizon. Says 3000mAh and I can proudly say that with moderate/heavy use, I get about 12-14 hours. Less that moderate/light use and I get about 25-27 hours.

for those still wanting this battery, I got one from Verizon at Half off due to a promotion. Apparently all batteries for 4G devices are 50% of until the end of march.

I got the extended battery and I'm getting about 7-8 hr of use.. but I'm using very heavy use. Like wifi tether. Texting all day. YouTube. Internet. Extended battery is awesome
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Thanks for the info! I can confirm, just placed an order for mine, $25 plus tax. Doesn't appear to be a discount on all batteries for all phones, but ours is good.

cowrecked said:
Thanks for the info! I can confirm, just placed an order for mine, $25 plus tax. Doesn't appear to be a discount on all batteries for all phones, but ours is good.
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You won't be disappointed!

I got this about a week ago and I absolutely love it, but has anyone noticed it takes like 6-7 hours to recharge from dead. It seems extraordinarily long.
Also it charges really slow, before you could see it charge 20% in like 45-60 minutes, now it does like 7% in an hour.
Still totally worth it as long as you have a plug in each night, you'll never go dead.

I also have the extended battery. Despite popular opinion I like the shape of it better! It actually fits in my hand now lol.
Anyway so far my battery lifetime hasn't seen a significant improvement, (went to sleep last night with it at 62% and this morning it was dead and didn't wake me up)!
It's only been a few days though maybe it will improve with time...
Edit: Mine also takes FOREVER to charge up... Once it got stuck at 75% and would charge no further, but unplugging and re-plugging it made it charge the rest of the way.

nasaiya said:
I also have the extended battery. Despite popular opinion I like the shape of it better! It actually fits in my hand now lol.
Anyway so far my battery lifetime hasn't seen a significant improvement, (went to sleep last night with it at 62% and this morning it was dead and didn't wake me up)!
It's only been a few days though maybe it will improve with time...
Edit: Mine also takes FOREVER to charge up... Once it got stuck at 75% and would charge no further, but unplugging and re-plugging it made it charge the rest of the way.
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I turn off data and wifi and that seems to take care of it.

nasaiya said:
I also have the extended battery. Despite popular opinion I like the shape of it better! It actually fits in my hand now lol.
Anyway so far my battery lifetime hasn't seen a significant improvement, (went to sleep last night with it at 62% and this morning it was dead and didn't wake me up)!
It's only been a few days though maybe it will improve with time...
Edit: Mine also takes FOREVER to charge up... Once it got stuck at 75% and would charge no further, but unplugging and re-plugging it made it charge the rest of the way.
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Mine takes a while to charge too, if I charge it from about 5-10%, 5 hours still won't charge it to 100%

DaemonAshra said:
I turn off data and wifi and that seems to take care of it.
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I agree, airplane mode and make sure the screen is off(I have mine on at all times when plugged in, mainly for work), and it'll charge much faster, plus your alarm will still work.

Just got the extended battery an it lasted 23hrs.
I've been Supercharged and Gingervolted!

Day 1 With extended battery!!!
Hey just got my battery yesterday and am going to see how well it holds up I am a heavy user. Stock I only got about 3hrs out of original battery! Lets see how it goes!!

Testing the 3960 Extended Battery

I ordered this Acesoft 3960 mah battery from here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390499613512&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
It may only be 3100 mah (or less) but I thought I would give it a try just in case I could gain some mah's and not change my case. I'm skeptical like most of us tend to be about battery claims.
The charger is cheap, states 800mah. I'm not convinced it's putting that much out. The little plastic parts broke off that hold the battery in place. The battery itself had two small dents. We are not off to a great start.
I charged it up last night on AC and in the phone, and with the phone off, and have it running today.
I'll post some more stats later today and you guys can comment if it looks like 3960mah to you, or just another exaggerated claim.
Here's what it's showing at 4 hours.

Looks pretty decent. Please keep us updated. Especially after a several charge cycles, to let the battery break in.
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Been streaming for 8 hours now.

Can you keep updating this for the next couple days? and does this batt charge completely while in the phone? and does it fit with the oem back door? Thanks.
So far this looks promising.

teshxx said:
Can you keep updating this for the next couple days? and does this batt charge completely while in the phone? and does it fit with the oem back door? Thanks.
So far this looks promising.
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Yes, fits OEM stock battery cover. That's why I was interested in the first place.
It charges fine on AC using the Samsung charger. USB? I don't know, might take a long time.
It ran for 1.5 hours and was still at 90% at 3.5 hours it was at 85%.

looks interesting. thanks for keeping us posted.

Do you find this battery better than the stock battery?
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At 12 hours it's done. It's on the charger now and will charge it up and drain it down again tomorrow.

Justice99 said:
Do you find this battery better than the stock battery?
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I don't know yet. That's what these tests will hopefully show and yes or no.

JosephL said:
I ordered this Acesoft 3960 mah battery from here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390499613512&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
It may only be 3100 mah (or less) but I thought I would give it a try just in case I could gain some mah's and not change my case. I'm skeptical like most of us tend to be about battery claims.
The charger is cheap, states 800mah. I'm not convinced it's putting that much out. The little plastic parts broke off that hold the battery in place. The battery itself had two small dents. We are not off to a great start.
I charged it up last night on AC and in the phone, and with the phone off, and have it running today.
I'll post some more stats later today and you guys can comment if it looks like 3960mah to you, or just another exaggerated claim.
Here's what it's showing at 4 hours.
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So i'm not sure what to think of your battery life. I have 78% left with 7.5 hours on and 1.75 hours on screen. My screen usage is only 33% of 22% which means roughly 7% total of my battery used there was consumed by my screen. Notice that the main program using the battery was Verbs, not sure why it's called that but it's ePSXe (PSX emulator). Your battery on the other hand was on for 4 hours and used 18% battery with your main usage being your screen at 48% running only for 56 minutes. About 9% of your total battery was consumed by your screen within 56 minutes as your screen was the primary source of draining power. My phone with the Onite battery (stock door) lasted 1 hour and 48 minutes only consuming 7% of the total battery usage.
Hopefully your battery improves with a few more charges.

Please keep us updated sounds very interesting.
Thanks
John

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So i'm not sure what to think of your battery life..
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I'm not sure what to make of it either other than to say 12 hours of streaming music on a single charge sounds good to me. ( pardon the pun) My S2 wasn't even good for 4 hours doing the exact same thing and that much I am sure about.
If nothing else, I figure I have a spare 3100, maybe more.

JosephL said:
I'm not sure what to make of it either other than to say 12 hours of streaming music on a single charge sounds good to me. ( pardon the pun) My S2 wasn't even good for 4 hours doing the exact same thing and that much I am sure about.
If nothing else, I figure I have a spare 3100, maybe more.
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Yeah no question that the battery is legit, just a matter of capacity. Download Battery stats and let that crunch some battery stats for you.

Duplicate post.

Doesn't look like I gained anything over yesterday. Doing about the same thing this morning as yesterday and my percent of use is about the same at the same time period. At 4 hours, it's down to 80% both days.
Here is battery Stats plus at 4 hours.

Nothing was gained yesterday at all. 12 hours almost to the minute both days so apparently cycling had no effect.

I can wrap this up now after testing stock against this battery.
It's no better than stock but no worse than stock either.
For the extra price you don't gain anything at all and cycling didn't change anything either. The wall charger is cheap and is not a full 2amp.
Now we know.

How's my charging routine?

Is my charging routine bad? Here is my daily recharging
I let it charge over night. By the time I get home its normally in the 60% or so. So its left on all night until about 7am.
Then about half way through my day I charge it again while I'm at on my office. By then the phone is around 70%. So I let it charge to 100% then move on with my day.
So about 2 times a day I charge my phone. Is this healthy for the battery or does it not matter? I'm trying to get the most out of my battery. I seem to burn about 3-4% per hour with it just sitting on desk. Thanks for any advice!

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Is my charging routine bad? Here is my daily recharging
I let it charge over night. By the time I get home its normally in the 60% or so. So its left on all night until about 7am.
Then about half way through my day I charge it again while I'm at on my office. By then the phone is around 70%. So I let it charge to 100% then move on with my day.
So about 2 times a day I charge my phone. Is this healthy for the battery or does it not matter? I'm trying to get the most out of my battery. I seem to burn about 3-4% per hour with it just sitting on desk. Thanks for any advice!
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Nothing wrong with that
You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though

MacHackz said:
Nothing wrong with that
You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though
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I do not understand. Am I better off charging one time a day?

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I do not understand. Am I better off charging one time a day?
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Well yeah, but don't worry about it. You'll get another phone by the time you notice a battery drop on this phone.

Ideally you should be charging the phone when the battery gets down to around 40% and charge it to almost full, 97%-99%
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I've always felt that the less you charge s phone, the better in the end. And once its done charging, unplug it. So don't leave it charging over night. I have a timer set up so my phone charges only for a few hours a night then shuts off. When I wake up, my phone is usually in the 90%+ range
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You are charging twice a day though so you will half as many days until your battery dies. Still a couple of years until it reaches 80% capacity though
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That's simply not true.

Lithium-Ion batteries are designed to be used - not to be used as permanent storage (thats why batteries in always-coorded laptops die faster)
(storing li-ion batteries should be done at 50% charge, never 100% nor 0%... )
Li-ion batteries should never get below 30% and likewise never hit 100% - The reason why, is because you are stressing the battery the most in the extreme ends... an almost empty cell is stressed when it has to deliver .. and an almost full cell has to charge at higher voltage to reach 100%.
So the best thing you could ever do is to charge from 30% to 95% if possible.
Regarding the amount of charges... with Li-ion you shouldn't think about the AMOUNT of charges, but the SUM OF HOURS that your charge..
so lets say you charge 500 times a year and you in total charge for 500x4 hours = 2000 hours of charging..
the battery usually last for 5.000-10.000 hours of charging ..
The reason why it is so, is because charging li-ion burns the Kathode (or Anode, can never remember) -- and when its all burned off, the battery wont charge anymore ...
Discharging too fast, also burns the Kathode (Anode) !!

Everyone is all over the place in this thread. The two things I will tell the OP to do is not leave the phone plugged in over night, and stay away from 100 and 0% and you will be fine.
But even if the OP keeps treating his battery the way he says, it will be okay. Not ideal, but still okay.
I personally try to keep the phone between 30-80%.
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BenPope said:
That's simply not true.
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Nice input there, just letting you know you're on my ignore list for being rude on every post I've seen you make

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Nice input there, just letting you know you're on my ignore list for being rude on every post I've seen you make
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I think I'll still be able to sleep at night, but thanks for letting me know.

Well I did find this. What do you guys think?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

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Well I did find this. What do you guys think?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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you found the right source... its were i get my facts from...

Does the HTC One battery stop charging after it hits 100%? There for no longer having the issue of over charging?

Battery suddenly drops

Hey all.. Picked up a Verizon Moto X yesterday and am absolutely loving it. I did have a quick question concerning the battery and am trying to figure out if I need to take this one in and exchange it. Yesterday when I was using the phone out of the box it drained fairly quickly. When the battery hit about 18 percent I got a warning that the battery was getting low... less than 30 seconds later I was getting another warning that the battery was at 13 percent and another 30 second I was at 3 percent battery.. I plugged the phone in, charged it to 100 percent and chalked this up to just a weak charge out of the box.
After the phone was off the charger I played a game of dots, watched about 40 minutes of man of steel and went to bed at 86 percent battery. When I woke up 7 hours later battery had drained to 67 percent. I went about my day and wanted to see how the battery served me at work.
Same thing happened this evening where the battery hit about 18 percent and within a minute I was getting a 3 percent warning. I used the phone for about another four minutes and it died completely.
I'm not really complaining about battery life... All in all I had around 21 hours with 2 and a half hours screen on time. I did notice that Google services had the phone "awake" for almost 20 hours. I'm mostly concerned about the sudden drop in battery and was curious as to if anyone else has experienced it. I'm currently letting the phone charge powered off in hopes that it helps. Thanks in advance guys.
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My phone does the same thing. The last 20% sucks. Just dies. Lol
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Try doing a battery calibration. Check if there's any app sucking the battery that much.
My Moto X today kept 2h and 30 minutes on 1% battery (i've put it on charge before dying), and took like forever to get from 20% to that.
Maybe you got a defective unit.

No cuz it drops quickly to 1% but just like u that last 1% easily goes for half hour to hour. Idk my actual problem is it'll say 14% left then in 10 minutes 4% left!
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Same here except I have the at&t version

I have the Rogers version and I've had it drop from ~25% to 15% pretty quickly. From 15% to 0 it lasts ok, but it has never stayed on 1 or 2 for very long. I've only gone through 3-4 charge cycles so far. Overall the battery life seems pretty good.

dsuctf which
While mine doesn't drop that quickly, I did go my first day with the phone for 18 hours, and then the next day in pretty much the same conditions it only lasted 11. Going to try again today and see if it does it again.

dicarli said:
My Moto X today kept 2h and 30 minutes on 1% battery (i've put it on charge before dying), and took like forever to get from 20% to that.
Maybe you got a defective unit.
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interesting. mine got to 3% last night and i got "nervous" and plugged it in. has anyone actually killed off the battery yet (shut the phone down)? seems like previous DROID phones would shutdown long before it got to 1%.

had the same issue for weeks. the fix: let phone die completely. then charge phone back up to 100%. I left the phone off while charging (not sure if it is necessary but I did it anyway to ensure that the phones software wasn't causing the phone to charge weird). Once i did this, the phone never dropped from 15 to 1% again and it also doesn't charge from 80% to 100% instantly like it used to.

I ended up taking the phone and exchanging it.. New phone did the same thing.. I let it die completely and charged it overnight while powered off.. Today it was prefect.. Actually have had to try to kill it. Also got my kit kat ota... Absolutely loving this phone. Thanks all!
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