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Hi all ,
Just had a cracking day after doing a deal on my htc crapfire & 50 quid for a lovely sammy , i am use to mucking about with the crapfire for the last few months with i had no probs with it and so here is my problem with my sammy after rooting my sammy and installing clockwork i am trying to back up its original rom with rom manager before installing a new rom but it puts me into recovery screen without backing up and gives me manual boot .So i would be grateful if some one could point me in the right direction to sort this out .
please be gentle if this has been asked before as my brain had 44 years of pickling & stewing and to many reboots i care to think about
clockwork recovery > backup / restore > nandroid backup > backup all
hey presto, job done.
move the file to your PC, guard it with some virtual doberman dogs, and leave it there till you need it
i tried to PM you back but it wouldnt let me. anyway heres what u need to do:
hey, you are on stock recovery system. thats why it doesnt have the option.
what you need to do is flash CF-ROOT for your firmware, or flash a kernel, such as:
SpeedMod
Voodoo
DamianGTO....... ect ect.
flash that either through odin, or 'apply:sdcard.zip' in your recovery system now, and that should give you clockwork recovery, with a ton of extra feautures, including making a nandroid backup.
You don't need to flash a kernel since you have ClockWorkMod already. I believe you have the stock Recovery3e under Froyo. That doesn't let you to reboot to CWM from system.
Just turn the mean machine off, then go recovery mode and do the backup as suggested in post #2.
Hello,
I have recently purchased a Galaxy S Advance phone, and I am quite new to the android os.
I have read already many guides and forums about the whole process of rooting / flashing etc, so I have some knowledge of the terminology.
I already have a rooted phone with GB on it (yes, I know JB is about to come out officially ) and I wanted to change some of the UI elements.
I installed the rom manager app by koush, but yet to use it because I saw that in the past that the phone wasn't supported.
My question is: Does ROM Manager support this phone? Can I go ahead and flash CWM on it from the rom manager app, and then use it to flash other roms?
If not, which is the best solution to backup and replace roms? ODIN?
Thanks,
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YMatrix said:
Hello,
I have recently purchased a Galaxy S Advance phone, and I am quite new to the android os.
I have read already many guides and forums about the whole process of rooting / flashing etc, so I have some knowledge of the terminology.
I already have a rooted phone with GB on it (yes, I know JB is about to come out officially ) and I wanted to change some of the UI elements.
I installed the rom manager app by koush, but yet to use it because I saw that in the past that the phone wasn't supported.
My question is: Does ROM Manager support this phone? Can I go ahead and flash CWM on it from the rom manager app, and then use it to flash other roms?
If not, which is the best solution to backup and replace roms? ODIN?
Thanks,
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Other way to change roms is custom recovery. On GB TWRP, on JB CWM.
Sent from Galaxy S Advance
Thanks fro your quick reply!
And what about ROM Manager? Does it work in this device?
YMatrix said:
Thanks fro your quick reply!
And what about ROM Manager? Does it work in this device?
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I think it is not working. It is not supported. Way we install custom ROMs: download ROM zip, transfer to SD, then go to recovery and install it from there.
I checked TWRP supported devices list (tried to link it but forum wont allow new users to link ) and I don't see the galaxy advance S on their list either.
Is there a special mod version for this device?
And another question, if installed, will this wipe the current phone data or just the recovery loader? Since I want to backup my current ROM (+ contacts, settings etc.) before doing anything sketchy...
YMatrix said:
I checked TWRP supported devices list (tried to link it but forum wont allow new users to link ) and I don't see the galaxy advance S on their list either.
Is there a special mod version for this device?
And another question, if installed, will this wipe the current phone data or just the recovery loader? Since I want to backup my current ROM (+ contacts, settings etc.) before doing anything sketchy...
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You have GB? Look here.
On I9070 recovery is on the same partition as kernel. So it can't be installed separatly. It is ported. You need to install this kernel, or CoCore. If you install with Odin - you will increase binary counter. For installation with ADB shell, or Terminal emulator (app from market) you need root - and it will not increase bc.
So I am guessing I will use the dd command line way since it doesn't increase the binary counter (why would we want to do that ).
Is it possible to backup the current ROM before flashing it with the TWRP modified ROM?
And another thing, since I will be using other ROMs, how can i add the TWRP recovery loader to them (you said that the recovery is on the same partition as the kernel, making me believe that each ROM I load will need to have TWRP on it)?
YMatrix said:
So I am guessing I will use the dd command line way since it doesn't increase the binary counter (why would we want to do that ).
Is it possible to backup the current ROM before flashing it with the TWRP modified ROM?
And another thing, since I will be using other ROMs, how can i add the TWRP recovery loader to them (you said that the recovery is on the same partition as the kernel, making me believe that each ROM I load will need to have TWRP on it)?
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No, only JetMOD have embendend kernel too. And it have TWRP.
Hm, another thing. You better use non binary counter increaing root method. But it need you to flash whole firmware with Odin. And maybe you loose data. But if you do not do factory reset - it will be ok.
Sorry, I didn't understand your last post.
YMatrix said:
Sorry, I didn't understand your last post.
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If you want to get TWRP with dd command you need to root your phone first.
There are 2 root methods. One that increase binary counter, and one that do not..
With one that do not increase - you need to flash whole firmware with Odin. And by doing that you might need to do factory reset. That will cause your data and app delete. You can try to boot, maybe it will be ok.
Oh, I already said I have a rooted device, so this wont be an issue.
What I asked was:
1) If I can backup my current ROM before installing the TWRP ROM you linked (in case something goes wrong).
2) When I install other modified ROMs, will they override the TWRP I installed, or just change the kernel system leaving TWRP in the recovery?
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YMatrix said:
Oh, I already said I have a rooted device, so this wont be an issue.
What I asked was:
1) If I can backup my current ROM before installing the TWRP ROM you linked (in case something goes wrong).
2) When I install other modified ROMs, will they override the TWRP I installed, or just change the kernel system leaving TWRP in the recovery?
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Didn't pay attention.
You have backup option in TWRP, and you can restore it.
Custom roms do not have connection with kernel, just JetMod who do have kernel with TWRP too.
P.S. lol you confuse me. TWRP is kernel related, nothing to do with ROM.
When you want stock kernel back, just flash your firmware from sammobile.com.
So you need to change kernel to get TWRP. And with TWRP you do backup of system.
Sent from Galaxy S Advance
Bos manForu
Hmmmm, now I am a little confused.
Since I don't want to touch the kernel (yet), all I want to do is change the ROM (as in UI changes etc...).
I wanted to backup my current ROM and then load other ROMS.
I started off with ROM Manager because it seemed to answer what I wanted to do, but as you said ROM Manager doesn't support this phone and we went from there to TWRP.
Since I now get that TWRP is kernel related only and not ROM management, what would you advise right now for:
1) Backing up the current ROM
2) Loading other ROMs to the device?
YMatrix said:
Hmmmm, now I am a little confused.
Since I don't want to touch the kernel (yet), all I want to do is change the ROM (as in UI changes etc...).
I wanted to backup my current ROM and then load other ROMS.
I started off with ROM Manager because it seemed to answer what I wanted to do, but as you said ROM Manager doesn't support this phone and we went from there to TWRP.
Since I now get that TWRP is kernel related only and not ROM management, what would you advise right now for:
1) Backing up the current ROM
2) Loading other ROMs to the device?
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You can do that only with TWRP.
And did you read ROM manager description?
* Flash your recovery to the latest and greatest ClockworkMod recovery.
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For ROM manager you need custom recovery. And for I9070 that is embended in kernel. Full stop.
And it is connected to CWM, not to TWRP. We do not have CWM for Android 2.3.6. ported.
P.S. So to close this:
- You can't do any backup, installation of ROMs without custom recovery (in our case TWRP) on our phone.
- Custom recovery couldn't be installed separatly - it is embended inside kernel file - and has nothing to do with ROM.
It is clear now?
I think I got you now
1) CWM doesn't work on my phone because the recovery is attached to the kernel.
2) In order for me to backup my ROM I need to install the kernel with TWRP embedded (the one you linked me).
3) I also can't backup my current kernel without TWRP so in order for me to have TWRP I will be doing #2 without any backup? I am guessing this is the part where bricking has a chance of occurrence?
YMatrix said:
I think I got you now
1) CWM doesn't work on my phone because the recovery is attached to the kernel.
2) In order for me to backup my ROM I need to install the kernel with TWRP embedded (the one you linked me).
3) I also can't backup my current kernel without TWRP so in order for me to have TWRP I will be doing #2 without any backup? I am guessing this is the part where bricking has a chance of occurrence?
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CWM = TWRP
Both are custom recoveryes. Not the same, but same purpose.
1) Our phone have same partition for kernel and recovery. So we can't install it separatly
2) You can backup kernel, but you will need Terminal emulator, and similiar command like instalation of other kernel
Code:
$ su
# dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 of=/sdcard/boot.bin
# reboot
This will backup your stock kernel on your sdcard. You can install it later this way (ofcourse if boot.bin file is on your sd)
Code:
$ su
# dd if=/sdcard/boot.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15
# reboot
You always can flash your stock kernel, Download mode do not have anything to do with kernel and recovery partition.
If this is little hard for you, just install custom kernel with TWRP. Or do not do anything. :laugh:
P.S. Trust me, you can't hard brick device with installing kernel. I am tester, and I flashed at least 10 non booting kernels, and 50+ booting ones.
I do trust you, just trying to get an understanding of how the things work on these devices.
So I now understand the backing up and flashing commands (I would like to know how you knew the mmcblk0p15 was the kernel partition for this phone), so where does the "Download mode" come in handy if u can flash directly from a terminal window?
If for some reason the flash wasn't successful, can you enter download mode and restore the backup you created?
YMatrix said:
I do trust you, just trying to get an understanding of how the things work on these devices.
So I now understand the backing up and flashing commands (I would like to know how you knew the mmcblk0p15 was the kernel partition for this phone), so where does the "Download mode" come in handy if u can flash directly from a terminal window?
If for some reason the flash wasn't successful, can you enter download mode and restore the backup you created?
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Most likely you will have to flash whole firmware if something goes wrong. I told you what I know.
And if you can go in TWRP recovery, it can restore krenel with other things you backed up. And you can flash new kernel in TWRP too.
Somewhere is written what partition is for what. I do not know that. And developers told us what partition is for kernel and recovery.
I do not think that that thing with restoring downlaod mode will work. Newer tried or heard of it.
I tried to explain you, but maybe I was little confusing. :angel: My english is not great, and I didn't provide 1, 2, 3... steps explanation. Like I throw everything to you. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
:laugh: More or less I understand you :laugh:
So to sum up:
1) Create a backup of the current kernel
2) Flash Stock Kernel + TWRP
if all goes well....
3) Create full phone phone backup from TWRP
4) flash custom ROMs (or kernels) with TWRP
Hows that?
YMatrix said:
:laugh: More or less I understand you :laugh:
So to sum up:
1) Create a backup of the current kernel
2) Flash Stock Kernel + TWRP
if all goes well....
3) Create full phone phone backup from TWRP
4) flash custom ROMs (or kernels) with TWRP
Hows that?
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That is ok.
And you backup old kernel that you can easy go back to stock one. Without flashing whole firmware, when you want stock. Like you want to go to service for warranty or something like that...
Spent quite some time searching through the forum but I'd still like a few pointers on where to start particularly (in which order).
Like;
1) Root
2) CWM
3) ROM Manager
4) SuperUser
5) Odin
6) Data wipe
7) Binary count reset
8) Recovery Manager
9) Custom ROMS
(EVEN THOUGH I'VE NUMBERED THEM, IT'S NOT LIKE I KNOW THE ORDER, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING)
So here are my main questions:
1) In which order do I install them ?
2) Is there any relationship between them? (i.e. I thought ROM Manager let you install CWM and with CWM you can get to Recovery manager or something...)
3) Do I need the Recovery manager for recovery or for installation of custom ROMS?
4) What is the point of getting custom ROMS when I get root ?
Phone: GT-I8190
Android: 4.1.1
Baseband/Build: I8190XXALJL
Thanks in advance, and apologies for asking same question if there is a thread around here about it.
I'd prefer ppl to explain rather than referring to other threads as that got me a little confused before. (you may still refer if that thread is clear enough)
Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
Sent from my HTC One X
mhoss48 said:
Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
Sent from my HTC One X
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Could u explain 3 a bit more ?
Also is there any relationship between CWM, ROM manager, custom ROMS and Recovery Manager ?
Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2
...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!
Should note that after custom rom you can't get access software update through kies air. At least I can't :-\
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2
Sv: Where to start ?
Who needs Kies when there is XDA?
Sent through time and space from my s3mini.
vonuzu said:
Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
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So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
tys0n said:
...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!
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Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?
Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw ?
Another question: There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
Mystique03 said:
So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?
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With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.
tys0n said:
With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.
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Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?
Mystique03 said:
Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?
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No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
2. They both do the same thing, but in touch-version you make your choices on touch screen while the other one is managed with phones physical buttons. I prefer the latest.
Roms for cwm are packed as .zip & are downloaded separately. As I said before there isn't much to chose from for our device yet.
3. Everything done after root is a risk. Even root can be dangerous if it's not done right.
Usually if something goes wrong it will just lead to a softbrick wich can be fixed in download mode or recovery.
Once rooted, make sure you do that cwm-backup to keep on your external sd. It's also a good idea to keep an odin flashable firmware on your computer, just to be sure.
4. Go for fat32. It can be changed later if you want to explore link2sd, sd-swap etc..
5. Factory reset will wipe all internal, but not your external sd.
6. cwm makes it possible to flash custom roms while odin can't. You need odin to flash official samsung firmware, but cwm to flash custom roms, mods, and so on. Can't really compare those two with each other, as they are used for different things.
:good:
Dated, but still very relevant.
tys0n said:
No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
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What should I do for wired transfers only, I mean.
Do I need to search for the phone specific driver for pc at Official Samsung site or is there no driver ?
Any other things I need to turn on except USB debugging mode when wired ?
Edit: Nvm, just got on the right track again
I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
ggnoobteam said:
I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
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Yep,BL unlocking does erase all your data!
1)when you restore the TA backup,your bootloader status goes back to locked,it will be like you never even touched the bootloader.But,the device wont boot up if you still have a custom kernel installed,so you have to flash back the stock kernel
2)I dont know about titanium backup
A better alternative is: Install XZDualRecovery(on locked bootloader) and make make a backup using your recovery of choice of /data(which contains all the apps/configurations/saved passwords blah...blah)onto the /sdcard.
Then unlock the bootloader and then restore the /data backup after.so everything including your apps and settings will be restored
5) as far as i know ,the sd card WON'T be wiped but you might as well take it out just to be safe
6)No,unlocking using flashtool will not install a recovery,the recovery is stored on the kernel(or not , if you flash a recovery image to the FOTAKernel Partition).
ggnoobteam said:
I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
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1) the TA backup returns the DRM keys to your default ( what you backed up) which means makes your phone untouched like its first day ( only about bootloader status,kernel,some DRMs like xreality and ... )
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2)the titanium backup , saves the backups in the folder TitaniumBackup placed in sdcard(internal storage). you can copy the entire folder in your pc or external storage to save it from deleting and put it back whenever you need it
sdcard/TitaniumBackup
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3) as i said in 2 yes. you can save the folder everywhere you want and replace it whenever you need your backups( u can also save just one or some of your backups if you want by saving the files in the folder)
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4)it depends on the app you are about to restore.. most of third party apps will not have any problem.even from device to device.. but the story is totally different for system apps
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5)yes you can do that..
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6)as i know,no.. it depends on your custom kernel...just flash a custom kernel and you will have the recovery:laugh:
and my friend! unlocking the bootloader it self, will not erase any of your data !! none of those! its a procedure that makes your phone able to accept and operate from a custem kernel instead of pre-installed kernel.. but if you change your ROM or flash a new ftf file(official roms from sony) , your internal and your personal data such as appdata,contact & ... will be erased . and you can select whether wipe the internal or not!(thats depends on your choice) and your ex-sdcard will be safe unless you select to format it!
and be very careful and good luck
Haha well I decided to go ahead and do it anyway
I got the apps and data back so nothing bad happened. I want to know how I can get clockworkmod on my device.
Android ROM manager says no official version of clockworkmod is supported for xperia z1. But then in a menu it also lists TWRP and clockworkmod as already installed on the system and asks if ROM manager can use those for its purposes. So that's why I asked if flashtool installs custom recovery as well.
Whenever I try to boot into recovery to make a backup, it boots normally instead. I hold down the volume up/down buttons and press them quickly on boot, the phone vibrates multiple times but no recovery mode, which leads me to believe there is no custom recovery installed, but ROM manager refuses to download clockworkmod and says there are two installed already! Neither of which can be accessed(if they even are on the system).
Sorry for this convoluted message
Any more help is greatly appreciated
ggnoobteam said:
Haha well I decided to go ahead and do it anyway
I got the apps and data back so nothing bad happened. I want to know how I can get clockworkmod on my device.
Android ROM manager says no official version of clockworkmod is supported for xperia z1. But then in a menu it also lists TWRP and clockworkmod as already installed on the system and asks if ROM manager can use those for its purposes. So that's why I asked if flashtool installs custom recovery as well.
Whenever I try to boot into recovery to make a backup, it boots normally instead. I hold down the volume up/down buttons and press them quickly on boot, the phone vibrates multiple times but no recovery mode, which leads me to believe there is no custom recovery installed, but ROM manager refuses to download clockworkmod and says there are two installed already! Neither of which can be accessed(if they even are on the system).
Sorry for this convoluted message
Any more help is greatly appreciated
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To get a recovery on your phone,You have to A) Flash A Kernel using fastboot commands or B) Install XZDualRecovery
Since you have already unlocked your BL,flashing a new kernel would be the best option as it give you tons of new features like DoubleTap2Wake and Overclocking(or underclocking!!).Check out the android developement section for kernels and roms!
masterofnocrack said:
To get a recovery on your phone,You have to A) Flash A Kernel using fastboot commands or B) Install XZDualRecovery
Since you have already unlocked your BL,flashing a new kernel would be the best option as it give you tons of new features like DoubleTap2Wake and Overclocking(or underclocking!!).Check out the android developement section for kernels and roms!
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Could you please point out a thread to me that shows how to flash a custom kernel without a custom recovery in place?
Does this mean all xperia users have to install a custom recovery through commands?
ggnoobteam said:
Could you please point out a thread to me that shows how to flash a custom kernel without a custom recovery in place?
Does this mean all xperia users have to install a custom recovery through commands?
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All the kernels for the Stock Sony Roms for the z1 come with a recovery bundled in it(just basic cwm,not fun at all).I think some CM/AOSP based kernels lack recoveries(but i dont know for sure)!!
See,other phones have separate stock recoveries on dedicated partitions(only for software updates,no custom ****) and you can flash a custom recovery into that recovery partition and load it up.But sony....oh no...sony doesnt load a usable true-ish-recovery into its phones nor do xperias have a real partition for the recovery...so we have to get by with these tricks.....
Well the best you can do is you can install a custom kernel and then flash a recovery to the FOTAKernel partition.then the kernel will the load the recovery from the fotakernel instead.
Philz Touch CWM FOTAKERNEL for Z1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...touch-fotakernel-images-t2826333/post54361630
Hi,
i want to root my phone using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/recovery-root-mm-575-lb-t3418714
but i want to be able to return to the current state so i want to double check that i don't forget to backup things, so my noob questions:
1. Is there anything i need to backup before rooting (besides my user data (aka images, musik, sms, etc.) obviously)
2. When rooted i can use TWRP to backup partitions but then there is also this Backup-TA tool: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598. Does it do something that TWRP does not?
3. When i flashed a custom rom, can i use a TWRP backup to return to stock rom? (or do i need a seperate tool to backup my exact stock rom or is there another way to restore the original stock rom via the offical sony update server or so)
4. Can i unroot my phone and remove all traces from SuperSu, TWRP, custom roms, busybox, etc.? Which tools can i use for that? (This loops back to my first question, since the rooting script already installs SuperSu, TWRP and busybox i wonder if i need to backup a partition with these things not installed)
5. When i have backuped all the stuff can i install custom roms and restore the drm things to work with the custom rom (mainly the camera algorithms)?
Thanks for the help, i once installed custom roms on my old galaxy ace and i didn't backup anything and regretted it XD, so that's why this time i ask beforhand to be on the safe side.