Ok this might sound real noobish. but i have Advanced Task Killer and i make it close every app. It shows that is have only about a 130 M of memory available. i know that the captivate has 512 Mb of Ram, so my question is... is this normal? is the rest of the ram used for the OS, my friends N1 shows 510 when i use his advanced task killer, so just a question hope someone can answer
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2.1 only can use like 300 of the 512
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rsx19 said:
2.1 only can use like 300 of the 512
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I don't think this is true. 2.2 builds show even less RAM.
There are several theories related to the lack of free ram. I don't think anything has really been confirmed in stone though.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/6040-free-memoryram/
also right here though on the android page it says that 2.2 upgrade which includes the 2.6.32 kernel supports more ram
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What is the Compcache RAM Usage that you find best on your Magic 32b? I am trying to figure out what is best for me.
I am currently using the default 8mb. I do know anything over 20mb causes problems for the browser. I'm still looking for what works the best.
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Some one had recommended 16mb and is working really good.
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Dont use compcache that ***** slows your phone down.
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Dont use compcache that ***** slows your phone down.
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From one side you are right, from the other side there are no alternatives if you want to run actual ROMs on the G1 with a decent set of background services. The alternative, i.e. running without compcache implies continuusly killing and restarting of apps by Android, which for sure will give you a worse user experience.
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I prefer running very low swap (e.g. 10 swap) instead of compcache and that helps a lot..
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From one side you are right, from the other side there are no alternatives if you want to run actual ROMs on the G1 with a decent set of background services. The alternative, i.e. running without compcache implies continuusly killing and restarting of apps by Android, which for sure will give you a worse user experience.
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I ran swap at 64mb And 15mb of compacted lol with a 256mb partition
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Hi
My SGN 7000 task Manager shows 799MB of Ram of which abt 650MB is always in use.
I use One touch optimizer but wout any significant reduction in used RAM.
If I kill process in Task Manager, it shows 13 -15 process killed & Used Ram improves to 600MB.
Note runs very slowly due to this.
Sometimes Task Mgr shows only abt 450MB of RAM in use & then SGN is quite fast.
1. How can I increase RAM allocation? Is that a good idea?
2. If not then how do I stop process running in SGN. It is rooted & am using FrankoKernel 2.6.35.7 #8 , BB LB1, Build GB.DDLB2.
Thanks
If. U have franco kernal u don't have to increase it because when u install the kernal tha ram will increase to the highest
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sharjackmission said:
If. U have franco kernal u don't have to increase it because when u install the kernal tha ram will increase to the highest
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Open the dialer and type *#9900# and see for your self
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Asfaik, the note although states 1GB ram, 200 or so Mb is utilised purely for system.
800 is the correct use for apps, and Android will use as much of it at all times based on what apps you regularly use to keep them cached for quicker access.
There are ram tweakers on the app store. Personally I use the one provided with Norton utilities, part of Norton AV, which works very well.
Hope it helps.
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Flash MIUI rom. You'll have 1gb of ram
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Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do
I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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googgiggs said:
No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...
Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.
What are you planning to do with the free ram?
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?
Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Task manager
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Hell no!
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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My nexus 7 (stock rom)starts to lag when it has like less than 100mb free. Lag goes away when I close out programs manually. This is the same case on my galaxy nexus (cm10.1). But my nexus 4 is great and worlds another might I add. But back to the 7, does any one else agree or have similar problems?
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I'm affraid you think right. Apps need memory to run, when this RAM is low or there is not enough available to start a new task the system lags, especially it's UI. Then it attemps to force kill one, more or ALL of your previous used apps depending of your memory usage level.
We can nothing to do with that, just can adjust our number of "same time running" applications to something appropriate to our device memory.
Sadly I have to say that for real MULTITASKING 2GB RAM are THE MINIMUM these days, but for really fast and smooth reactions 3GB will be the optimum. Where are these devices you can ask, hah they are NOT BORN YET...
AW: Beggining to think android requires ram.
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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Me neither. I had a Viewsonic GTablet that only had 512MB of RAM, and it wasn't an issue.
It's probably not so much android but the apps. Just like all computing, programs get better and more complex and start requiring more ram and processor power. I think with the Nexus 7,it has plenty of processor, so ram is probably the bottleneck.
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You reminded me of my lg p350, 175mb ram and was so slow, and thats with the os fitting in it, Froyo.
1.5 horrible and torturing years later, here i am, with 1gb ram and enjoying it.
Be thankful you even have a gig of ram.
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My mobile is getting slow and when I checked the RAM, it is showing that it has 342MB RAM and usually it is 50MB free and by using RAM Booster, I was able to increase the free RAM. But, is there any way I can increase RAM of the mobile, as my mobile is getting very slow and sometime, I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...
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My mobile is getting slow and when I checked the RAM, it is showing that it has 342MB RAM and usually it is 50MB free and by using RAM Booster, I was able to increase the free RAM. But, is there any way I can increase RAM of the mobile, as my mobile is getting very slow and sometime, I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...
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In android free ram is wasted ram theory....so if things work normal...it's ok
But if the problem is getting slower and no response...then best is use greenify app and make the apps to hibernate....
It works to some extent....But then it is better to use min free manager too
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it also depends on what rom are you using, it has effect on ram usage. for example I'm using tonyp's cm10.1 and everything works well. I never check free ram as I don't have to, every app starts quickly and work smooth, even though a reboot a day is needed, but it worth it as I'm using this for more than a month now, without any flashings.
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In android free ram is wasted ram theory....so if things work normal...it's ok
But if the problem is getting slower and no response...then best is use greenify app and make the apps to hibernate....
It works to some extent....But then it is better to use min free manager too
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Thank You Sir, big help i will try greenify. Im having trouble with my ram too. This would be a very great help. Thank you!:highfive:
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Thank You Sir, big help i will try greenify. Im having trouble with my ram too. This would be a very great help. Thank you!:highfive:
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i am use greenify app and no have ram problem between 117-80 ram free..
sorry for my english
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I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...
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A little tip that works for me on v20l is to go to Settings, Display, Display Font & choose any Font as it will ask you to restart your fone. This way, you don't have to keep doing a battery pull lol. Not to sure what rom your using but on stock 2.3.4 - you don't get the option of a reset.
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A little tip that works for me on v20l is to go to Settings, Display, Display Font & choose any Font as it will ask you to restart your fone. This way, you don't have to keep doing a battery pull lol. Not to sure what rom your using but on stock 2.3.4 - you don't get the option of a reset.
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On the ICS/JB selection of the fonts from the settings does not requires the restart...it takes 2seconds after selection.
So, this is not true for ICS. Applicable for GB only(maybe Froyo too)
There is a way "to increase ram". It's called swap. A program could create a swap file on your android system. Not needed files which are "on" the ram will be copied to the swap file and deleted from the ram.
Maybe this app works for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
You should notice that a higher "swappiness" means, that the chance is higher for the data to be copied to the swap file. As you can see, it is something like a virtual ram expansion.