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I could care less about themes and whatnot. What i care about is how efficiently my phone runs.
Ive been running Fresh Rom 2.1.2 by flipz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
and it works fine.
But DamageControl v2.09.01 - Final Hero ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6062187
is now around.
Can you guys describe damage control.
(im not in a area where i can flash froms freely)
but overall
How can you determine what rom is faster and more efficient in turns of battery life and speed?
Which one..if you use one or the other or both, do you think is best in these areas.
What do you like and dislike about them?
thanks in advance
Everyone has their own like and dislike. Both ROM is good.. I tried both rom for a week one after another. Both gave same amount of battery life and performance. This is with OC. But hey this is my opinion and it does not count out of 1 million other opinions.
Fresh 2.1.2 with OC (min 245, max 710), I get 2.9-3.0 in Linpack. I've wanted to try DamageControl out, but I'm currently waiting for Darch to release his 2.2 ROM.
I've used both also, and have gone through many different ROM's. I've ended up sticking with DC 2.0.9. The main reason is that DC has a config option that allows me to prevent HTC Sense, Sprint Apps (except VoiceMail), and others from booting at start up. this requires that i use the Helix Launcher, but hey, i think i like it better then the Sense launcher. It doesn't have the same glean to it, and he widgets aren't as fancy, but much longer battery, a touch faster, and a bit more stable. i haven't been able to get overclock to work on DC though.
Opinions are like A$$holes, everyone's got one...
well i wanna know opinions also
Should've added a poll for people to vote on
But I say Fresh 2.1.2 and agree with the guy up there that said to OC it
I personally use Fresh 2.1.2 due to battery life, but I think Darch is probably faster. My personal reason for using Fresh is to be able to change some settings that Darch has hidden that enable me to double my battery life(I have really bad signal at work). Also, remember Fresh ROM comes with the HTC kernel, which is not overclockable; so if you want to OC it, you will have to switch to Toast's kernel. Unfortunately flipz hasn't released a version of Fresh Toast that includes many of his performance tweaks in 2.1.2, so I actually found 2.1.2 to be faster than Fresh Toast 2.1 even with it OCed.
I bought my gf a Sprint Hero to see if she likes using Android. Might buy an Evo or whatever comes next if she likes the platform (this is her first smartphone, I've been using them for a loooong time - since the iPaq days!)
Anyway, the used one I bought her has stock 1.5 ROM on it, and I know that the Sprint 2.1 ROM is also available. I've searched all over and see mixed opinions on if its worth upgrading or not. A lot of bugs seem to crop up in the 2.1 version, but also some new features and better app compatibility in the market.
I'm a long-time HTC device user, but always WinMo, so I'm no stranger to flashing/modding etc. But I don't want to get into that at all with her phone, she'll get angry if I try to do something and then something else breaks, so I just want whatever stock ROM "just works" best. I don't want to have to "maintain" this device.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.
Hi there. As far as what "just works"...I have used both 1.5 and 2.1 stock...some people have experienced multiple problems. I used 2.1 stock for awhile before rooting...and quite honestly, the only problems I had was occasional lag...not drastic like some have reported....and rapid battery drain. I've since rooted 2.1 and use an overclocked kernel. Now, with GPS location off (still use cell service loc.), and no task killer whatsoever...i get almost 24 hours of battery with moderate to high usage. I experience no lag whatsoever. And, quite honestly, the rooting process and installing the OC'd kernel are VERY easy. I don't know about your girlfriend, but the skeptics I know...given a few days running straight stock unrooted...came back in a couple days begging me to root and make their Hero "run like mine".
Thanks for the info. I might go that route. Are you running a ROM with Sense? Did you just root the stock Sprint Sense ROM and OC it?
Any more help would be appreciated, like I said I've done a lot of ROM flashing and modding in the past but always on WinMo, I'm new to Android but have been reading up on these forums so I think I have a good sense of what needs to be done now. I'm not afraid of rooting / flashing processes, but I really don't want to put on ROMs where little weird glitches are going to piss her off. I don't mind dealing with that on my own phone, but this really does need to be a one-time job where I can just had it off to her and never have to deal with it again
I am running a ROM with Sense. It's the actually the HTC ROM that has been rooted. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 It runs sweet. I also formatted the stock 2gb SD card to ext for use with Apps2SD and it worked flawlessly after flashing the ROM. There are plenty of straightforward instructions here in this forum. Like I said, I think your g/f will be very pleased with the speed and battery life using this message. I flash a couple roms now and then to try something new, but always come back to this 'cuz it "just works".
1.5 is faster & more stable imo...but outdated. 2.1 provides a few new features but it's really up to her which one she wants to use. try them both out.
for 2.1 id use the stock rooted sprint rom
for 1.5 id suggest the pancake rom.
If you flash one of the OC kernels, just know that not all phones can handle the OC speeds, especially on bootup. If you decide to flash an OC kernel, MAKE SURE you nandroid backup first in case that phone goes into bootloops or freezes after the new kernel. Start with the 691mhz one just to test, then if all is good you can move up to 710mhz or 768mhz if you want more.
Also, to answer your initial question, I personally think stock 2.1 is much better overall than 1.5. Without even considering OC kernels, extra apps, widgets, etc....Android 1.5 didn't even have native CDMA support, so it had to contain a lot more code/tweaking for our Sprint build, which is why it runs so slowly and laggy. 2.1 includes CDMA support which automatically makes the code smaller and it means the OS automatically runs more quickly and smoothly on almost all HTC Heroes.
The only big consistent issue I've heard of on stock 2.1 is terrible Bluetooth functionality. Most other issues are hit or miss cases that aren't very common.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, this has all been helpful.
To update, I dove in and just updated to the latest 2.1 Sprint official ROM (.6). I don't really think she has a current need to be rooted, as she doesn't use many apps, and doesn't need tethering.
If the need arises in the future for these things, I'll just flash the ROM linked above, or flash back to .5, root, and re-flash. Maybe by then there will be a root for .6 anyway and it will be even easier yet.
I'd also like to post my experience with 1.5 vs 2.1 I am not sure why everyone feels 2.1 is so much slower. I'm guessing it's because they haven't applied the .6 patch, which in addition to fixing the root exploit, also adds a bunch of speed enhancements in the UI.
2.1 is much faster on her phone than 1.5, especially scrolling in long lists, using the dialer, and even swiping between homescreens. She's quite happy with it, and I don't have to hack any fixes due to broken stuff in ROMs, so I'm happy too
I'm liking Android enough that I think I'm willing to buy another phone to play with, I got sick of dealing with flashing and hacking on my WinMo devices, so I went to iPhone. But I want a new Android HTC phone to play with, I think I'll buy a Nexus One or something.
So is kingxklick's froyodesire2 nexus the best froyo sense? Im currently on modoca sense r21 an i want froyo an want to keep sense... so as i see in kings changelog everything works for his rom even bluetooth, just wanted to ask if this is the best one or anothers devs froyo sense is better?
Wrong forum.
I've been switching between kings rom and Evil's rom for a while now, and so far im sticking with evils...
I've used kings and evils and evils is better. The camera actually takes pictures at the correct resolution and it benches higher. The theme is uglier but you can change it to regular sense
how do you change it to regular sense, thats why i switched from evils. its ugly
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I don't think you can go wrong with either Evil's or King's roms. I have run them both off and on and they are both great. I am currently using King's v1.2 and I am staying with it for now. I like that he kept the stock look of Sense and I like that he doesn't include the HTC_IME_MOD so I can skin my own keyboards. Evil seems to have dialed in some of the apps a little better such as the flashlight having all three brightness levels and the camera not distorting the preview (just the preview in King's, the picture is fine) but in the end they both work equally well for me. I would probably switch back to Evil's rom if he offered a stock looking alternative. I know my gripes with Evil's rom are cosmetic and can be undone with a little effort, but I dont have to do anything to achieve the same look with King's rom...just my opinion.
I have never tried Evil's Sense Rom, but from what I gather in the thread, there are still graphical errors. I Can't get past that, as Sense is supposed to be elegant and beautiful, and little lines of color whenever you press a button just doesn't cut it. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
For the same reason, I didn't use king's for the longest time. He fixed it back in the beta.
The only downside to king's is he sacrificed FM support for bluetooth, which was more "in-demand".
I have since switched back to stock froyo...The lack of a customizable launcher and uncertain kernel really outweighed the main reason I went to sense in the first place: weather animation (as shallow as that must sound lol).
I say try em both! Hell, if you have the time and bandwidth, DL Rodiguezstyle's iteration, try all three, then base an opinion off of first hand experience. That's how I always do it
So basically the only diffrences are cosmetic An bluetooth, are they smooth an reliable?
*i want to keep the wireless tether from r21 that im currently on how do i go about doing that
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Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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not gonna happen, we are waiting for another phone comparable with the hero to get it then it can be ported. on another note rumor has it sprint will be releasing another hero update in october. keep your fingers crossed that it could be froyo.
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
bray424 said:
Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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2 months ago I was saying the same thing. Been running CM6 since day 1 and got sense deprived for 2 days. Flashed CM6 back and found some alternatives to the sense look. Now I could care less about sense and any official update. IMHO, my phone runs better, faster and actually looks better without sense. The only good thing that would come of it would be to fix the very few issues that are left in the froyo ROM.
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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I'm just so new that I wasn't even thinking about having the best of both worlds...I would def try that out if it becomes reality
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I would only start using a 2.2 Sense ROM if it had the speed and options like CyanogenMOD has... which will never happen. So I guess I'll never use a 2.2 Sense ROM.
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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awe gee thanks, love you too.
and you got proof that it would run better?
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Well...alrighty then. It sounds like you had a set up issue on your phone because out of my 4 Hero's..the way mine is set up now it flat out runs the stock sense rom's that I have here and has more gas at the end of the day, and everything turned on that I have to have turned off on the stock roms if I expect more than 8 hours of battery life. I haven't tried either of the other 2 roms you are talking about yet,but I might just to see if your just blowing smoke which I believe you are..since you still haven't validated any of you facts opinions yet..
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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I agree that zenrom and nfx-hero are light-years faster than the stock 2.1 sense rom. I'd even venture to say that its as fast as 2.1 sense can get, its pretty damn snappy. But I hope when you say its faster than CM6, you aren't talking something quantitatively ... because frankly, the statistics don't back up that claim.
And you're right, regular AOSP is plain and boring. The reason it's like that is to start with as clean a slate as possible, and let you theme and mod to the nth degree. You can do the same thing with Sense, but not as easily, and it will never be as lightweight because of the extra HTC apps. Some phones can handle the extra weight, some can't. I guess it comes down to if you want to work to make your Hero uniquely beautiful, or commonly pallatable.
I respect your own opinion (my wife is a Sense lover, so I have this debate constantly, and respect the other side), however recognize the difference between facts and opinions, please. If you want to provide subjective "facts", please call them what FOX News calls them: truth.
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
Even though Sense looks great compared to vanilla AOSP, visual appeal is not what I look for when comparing the two ROMS. I love how lightweight AOSP is, but wish it came with some of the awesome HTC widgets that are exlusive to Sense. To this day, the HTC keyboard, weather and calendar widgets, and a few other items have no equal in the FREE apps section of the Market.
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I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
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I agree. I tried CM6 and barely noticed a speed difference. I noticed several features and customizations, but nothing special that I can't do on my 2.1 sense rom. Actually, froyo isn't even all that to me. The only thing I want from Froyo is the marking/vending, but other than that there's nothing special like everyone says. BTW, I'm also using Aloysius 2.1 with my own theme I created.
This is also my 2 cents. And I am in no way saying that Aloysius is better than CM6, just that 2.1 sense roms have more of what I prefer.
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Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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Obviously you've never used Zen-ROM before. It is MUCH much faster than CM6 ever was for me. I've had zero lag and fantastic battery life.
Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Yeah, because no one else in your house is using a rooted Hero with something like Zen-ROM on it..
I charged my phone today around 6 in the evening to 100%. It's now 5am and I STILL have over 70% battery life left, after using it pretty heavily with GMaps. CM6 never made it that far for me.
I've only owned 2 andoirds, mytouch3g and nexus1. Neither had SENSE and i always ran CM w/e version they had.
Now i get a INCS and well CM7 is pretty dated stuff. CM9 isn't 100% where i wanted it to be. A lot of roms had SENSE tied into it and i tried it out. Things are diffrent but i could say good or bad. Oddly enough, they all had better battery life then CM7 and the quatrro ICS rom. Well during my unoffical testing anyways.
Obviously i'm not used SENSE so naturally i dont like it because its just different. Just wanted to know everyone's personal reason for using or not using SENSE.
I see no benefits to Sense. Some people say the widgets are really nice but I hardly use any widgets, so it doesn't really apply to me. When I used to use Sense ROMs, I had customized everything anyway (no Rosie launcher, no Sense lockscreen, all 3rd party apps, etc).
I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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That seems very strange. Sense ROMs have never been so good on my IncS. I found that CM7 was very good. I am running MIUI now, and the battery life is amazing on it. With some heavy usage (3G, voice calls, bluetooth transfers and some light gaming), I had 65% left at the end of the day. I tried Virtuous Quattro (RC3 and 4), but it wasn't good though the ROM is pretty decent like you said. With a Sense ROM, I always found the battery to be at 30-40% at the end of the day with just voice calls and some wifi.. 3G drained the battery like a sinkhole.
Only thing I miss from sense was the contact sync with facebook working sooo nicely. Not much more tbh.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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I use set CPU and incredicontrol for UV but it doesn't really matter as long as your oc app has profile settings.
Yeah when I was running ARHD with the No-Sense script the battery seemed to be the best out of all the ROMs I've tried, better than CM7.1.
Personally, I use Sense ROMs because the video recording just isn't worth using without it, and the reverse tethering feature is handy for me (being stuck on a crappy plan for the time being). If HTC ever release the camera drivers I'd probably stop using Sense and wouldn't look back.
i'm just not a huge fan of the dialer and whole contact views.
Well I had LG P500 (using LG Launcher or Launcher Pro), Nexus S (MIUI) and now the Incredible S (using sense 3.5).
I hat the asop look of Gb android, and I must install lot's of stuff to get things done quick.that changed with MIUI, good looks, lot's of integration out of the box (toggles for everything), but sense is another world, almost every common app seems integrated, they have widgets with a common look,it's fine.
I have a fast phone (maybe not as fast as MIUI or CM,but fast enough), with all of the things that I need/like almost out of the box,and better with good battery life and stability!
Well, after trying a few non-sense ( sounds kinda funny ) ROMs, I am using a sense based one now, and I don't like it one bit. The only reason I am back on this is for the camera. The pics were too grainy for my liking. But this ROM is slow, and since I don't use many widgets, sense offers me very little. And battery life was best on MIUI and CM7.
Almost every other ROM I have used is faster than this.
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I've got to agree with soothsayer. ARHD has very good battery life, and if you've UVed your Rom for stable and dependable performance it sometimes beats CM7, esp if you have some rogue app like Google maps etc, which refuses to be killed and keeps running in the background, eating your battery.
IMO, its not just the bloat in Sense UI, but the other bloat / crapware apps that you have, that ruin your battery. Google apps are the main culprits (maps, gtalk, search, contact sync, calendar sync, g+, FB, Twitter, stocks, auto sync settings & always on data connection) that drain battery. I rip out all these apps / apks and use droidwall to selectively allow only known & trusted apps to connect on data. Sometimes, my ARHD outperforms CM7, esp if I've flashed gapps on CM7.
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I gave sense a fair chance coming from a cm7 device, I used niks rom and arhd and affinity, affinity was the best of em.
But since i am running ICS (icecold sandwich) i would consider it a nightmare to go back to sense.
Sense uses too much memory, runs too much odd services, has a lousy dialer, loads of crap apps one does not use and the most horrible launcher ever (rosie)
Plusses of sense are a great camera app, good lockscreen and a nice clock widget, but thats about it.
I think i can live with the little shortcomings of CM9 for now, (tip: if u use youtube in hq mode it works flawless)
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i'm a sense lover. i tried "senseless" roms many times and always went back quickly.
reasons for going back to sense were:
- i need many different apps to have a powerful homescreen
- visual things (i love the optic)
- dialer, contacts are best imho
- better camera with powerful tools
- little phone things like: vibration when a person accept the call, louder ringtone if the phone is in a bag, ringtone volume decrease if u already grab the phone
- timer, alarms are included
- lockscreen is beauti- and powerful
- best weather app
- htc music is wonderful
for me its a wonderful "all inclusive" package and i hate to install tons of apps to have good functions. sense is a big reason why i bought a htc phone
For me, SENSE has the best Mail for Exchange support.
Also the contacts were nicely merged from many different accounts
Do miss that on ICS
I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
Maxesz said:
I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
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Ice cold sandwich is the bomb though
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