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WIFI and GPRS

Can anyone tell me how this works on the wings.
When using Fring you can actually tell it to conect via wifi etc. but what i want to know is does mesenger do it as well or does it go straight to the gprs. Also when you go online via IE. does it default to the GPRS. I dont see anything that says to use the WIFI conection first and it looks like messenger and IE use the GPRS instead even though i have wifi enabled or am i wrong here.
Thanks ahead

By default, all aplications (IE Mobile, Messaging...) use GPRS, 3G (or other cellular network). If WiFi is on and available, all aplications are using WiFi instead of GPRS. (Only Fring has a bit different connection handling)

What Moneytoo said, only sometimes when I enable WiFi on the phone it wont turn off the data connection so I usually do that manually in the connection manager.

When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.

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OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.

phailo said:
When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.
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Very true, but I notice (and speculate) that you only cannot select enable or disable the Data connection unless you change or add another connection, or the phone is using it. If I wake up in the morning my phone is using data since I have the HTC home screen with its weather application, hit comm mngr and data is grayed out, but once the phone wakes up or I select Wifi and it starts working again the option to disable data comes up.
For me I just load or refresh the weather page and my data is connected, its set to always be on and since my plan is unlimited I dont worry about it.
NoNco said:
OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.
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Depends on what you are loading honestly, a page that your mobile browser has to read, compress resize and modefy to display properly will take time to load while it does all of this regardless of how fast your connection is. Could also depend on what others are using your connection for and if your on the B or G standard. Overall I notice a fairly good increase from using Wifi but I am only on Edge here which caps at about 20kb/s where 3g can get into several Mbits/s

How to stop internet connection

A silly question by a new user: how is it possible to stop an internet or data connection (no matter if hsdpa, edge, gprs) once started?
Thanks

use 'long key press' in settings, can be set to disconnect a data connection (sdpa, edge, gprs)

Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity

jack1985 said:
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
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faulty url!
take this one:
GB-SOFT GPRS-UMTS_Tweak_WM6.1_Diamond
there you can choose the idle-time for disconnect

Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.

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Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Cool, also in stead of holding the end call button, wich locks the phone in my case,
Dubbelclicking the end call button alse ends my edge connection.

In order for your end key to stop the connection, you have to go to Settings>System>Long Press End Key>Select Terminate data connection
Then when you press and hold your end key, it will end the connection

if you prefer to stop internetconnection by shortcut, try VJKeyPress.exe 126
this one toggles internet connection

i've searched and i've searched and i cant find the resolve!
after retrieving hotmail, the connection stays active, meaning bars are lit up. for HOURS after unless i long-press-end key or something like that. even when i am surfing the web, after a page is fully loaded, the bars stay lit. on my old diamond, the bars used to go gray or "dormant" etc. therefore no tweaks i have found help (i.e. most operate with this rule "if the connection is dormant/inactive for xx minutes, turn off data" etc. well my connection remains ACTIVE unless i manually intervene)
what is causing this??? i only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite installed. stock ROM.

hello? anyone? NO one is having the same issue or can help with this??? at this point i'd even be happy with a rude comment about how i should learn how to search coupled with a few links to threads which contain the answers! :\

I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection

number16 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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number16, my savior! i'll try to explain as best i can: when the data connection is started/being used, those left-right arrows appear above the signal strength, correct? what i call "active" is when those arrows are lit (presumably when data is actually being transferred). what i call "dormant" is when the arrows are still there but are gray/not lit (i.e. connection is still open, but not currently transferring data). well, up until a 2 wks ago, all seemed fine - the arrows would briefly stay lit when downloading a page, connecting to hotmail, etc, but then would go gray once the transfer was complete. now however, the arrows stay lit. sometimes for hours at a time even tho nothing is running, no data (that i know of) is being transferred, etc.
so what i was saying is that, yes, i know i can long-press-end key to shut it down, but that only works if i notice it otherwise it's just draining my battery. (most times it is in my pocket, and since it checks hotmail periodically, the data connection may open and stay on without me noticing). and yes, i know about advanced config setting (and actually, i DO have it set to turn off after a minute) BUT that only applies if "connection is not active for more than a minute". i.e. since my whole problem is that my data connection technically stays active, that advanced config setting doesnt work.
so my question is, what is keeping the connection active? why is it doing this? i am running stock ROM and only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite loaded. and a few other minor tweaks via advanced config/regedit. i even tried spb wireless monitor to see what was active after a data transfer was complete (as far as i could tell) but it didnt really tell me anything.
does all that make sense?
thanks for any help you can provide...

[Q] Internet settings - always connected or only when needed?

Hi,
sometimes it seems as some settings would just simply disapear... or at least I cannot find them anymore also after an intens search.
What I am looking for right now is the option whether the phone should be connected to the internet all the time or just when an application requests it. Where can this be set?? And where can the option to vibrate as soon as the connection is established be activated?
Thanks

wi-fi on/off automatically?

is there a way if any program needs connection the wifi to turn on and after exit of the program the wifi to turn off (not waiting 2-3-4min if there is no usage to turn off then)?
I have turned off the wifi for the battery life reasons, so when I need it any time I have to go into comm.manager and so on....

I'm actually using phoneweaver (not free), you can set profiles to switch on/off wifi at specific times. I can turn wifi on, but for some reason can't turn it off automatically, guess I'm a bit dumb to set it correctly, but it works for me.
there's another software called wifilocations (free), it seems to turn on/off wifi based on cell id's, haven't tried it but might work for you

I personally have set a hardware button to act as Wifi on/off (with AEBPlus) and just toggle it with a double press when I need it and when I'm done.

There is a wifi button on the keyboard (right arrow button)

True, I usually forget about that one. But then, I don't want to open the phone to turn Wifi on/off.

Prepare for something magical...
Ok so this isn't magical, in fact, it's just another .cab that you can remapp a button to, that's what I have done and I just toggle wifi on and off using it. Here is the .cab.

Somewhat related but does anyone know if it's possible to turn the phone off but leave wi-fi on ? If I'm at home, I want to have Skype running and receive calls like general mobile calls. Would also like to be available with Messenger too
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Download KaiserTweak, it has an option to keep wifi on during standby.

Perfect thanks however .......
Anyone know how I can run Skype and/or WLM in background ? They seem to shut when I click X on them
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Check you don't have a 3rd party program or HTC task manager set to "close" instead of "minimize" when tapping X.

Enable or disable data

Hi
I have wifi at home and want to use that as the connection of choice... however, when I am not around home I'd like to enable EDGE/3G.
The device seems to do something similar by itself but not reliably... sometimes around home I still find it connecting to edge/3g when the wifi is available....
Any way to switch it on / off so that it doesnt automagically connect to edge/3g?
Thanks

google "modaco nodata"