sorry for such a noob question, but right now I had a odin3 stock flashed jh6 captivate and used rom manager to update to jh7. I want to reflash to stock again, but want to flash directly to jh7.
Is it possible to flash directly to jh7 and bypass jh6 altogether?
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790080
Should basically be that... except that it comes rooted already.
You also have the option of using the new "Kies Mini" to perform the update "officially":
http://www.all-samsungphones.com/samsung-captivate-i897-kies-ver-10082-8-1-software-download.html/
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Could anyone told me what's the relationship between Odin and Rom Manager
I wanna upgrade captivate from 2.1 to 2.2, so i read some guides
It seems that some guides told me use odin and need the adb shell or combine keys to enter downloading mode.And then flash the pit,and csc,phone,pda.
But meanwhile, some guides said just put the rom in sd card and reboot the phone by Rom Manager.
So i get confused,could anyone told me which should i listen?
By the way,if the phone is locked 3 keys, does rom manager still work?
Odin is the a flashing tool that is run from the PC. Rom Manager is a tool that is run from the phone itself. It depends on what rom you want to flash, some of them are built to be flashed from Odin, and as such won't flash with Rom Manager and vice versa. Other than they are both flashing tools they don't really have a connection.
As to the question regarding if rom manager will work with no-button-combo phones, I'm pretty sure it will, but don't quote me on it.
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Odin is the a flashing tool that is run from the PC. Rom Manager is a tool that is run from the phone itself. It depends on what rom you want to flash, some of them are built to be flashed from Odin, and as such won't flash with Rom Manager and vice versa. Other than they are both flashing tools they don't really have a connection.
As to the question regarding if rom manager will work with no-button-combo phones, I'm pretty sure it will, but don't quote me on it.
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Thanks,you means these two tools can do exactly the same thing,but the rom source is different?
The rom manager can use a .zip rom contains data/META-INF/system etc. folders?
And the Odin should flash the rom which contains *.pit,*.tar,*.tar.md5 ?
By the way, i saw the 2.1 don't support the recovery etc. from apps, does that means rom manager doesn't work in 2.1? (I already read the 2.2 guide, and it said just use the rom manager)
Yeah, both are tools used to flash roms to your phone. However a rom made to be flashed by odin can't be flashed with Rom Manager, and a rom made to be flashed by Rom Manager can't be flashed with Odin. Some developers make two versions of the same rom so that you can flash it with your preferred method.
The last thing you mentioned is backwards... 2.1 uses recovery 2e which allows for the use of self-signed update.zips (this is what RomManager uses to get into clockwork recovery which is a modified recovery that does the actual flashing). However 2.2 uses recovery 3e which doesn't allow for this.
This means that if your on 2.1 presently you can flash with RomManager (you can even use RomManager to flash from 2.1 to 2.2), but if your using 2.2 your only flashing option is to use Odin.
Once on 2.2 you can use Odin to flash a modified 2e recovery that works with froyo and you will once again be able to use self-signed zips. (some of the unofficial roms like cognition do this automatically so you don't have to)
Trump211 said:
Yeah, both are tools used to flash roms to your phone. However a rom made to be flashed by odin can't be flashed with Rom Manager, and a rom made to be flashed by Rom Manager can't be flashed with Odin. Some developers make two versions of the same rom so that you can flash it with your preferred method.
The last thing you mentioned is backwards... 2.1 uses recovery 2e which allows for the use of self-signed update.zips (this is what RomManager uses to get into clockwork recovery which is a modified recovery that does the actual flashing). However 2.2 uses recovery 3e which doesn't allow for this.
This means that if your on 2.1 presently you can flash with RomManager (you can even use RomManager to flash from 2.1 to 2.2), but if your using 2.2 your only flashing option is to use Odin.
Once on 2.2 you can use Odin to flash a modified 2e recovery that works with froyo and you will once again be able to use self-signed zips. (some of the unofficial roms like cognition do this automatically so you don't have to)
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Hmmm, can this be the problem i got? Flashed from JH to Cognition 2.2B6 via rom manager, and made a backup before. Now when i'm trying to flash back the backed up JH (2.1) rom my phone is stuck on AT&T screen....
edit: with cognition 2.2 i still got 2e recovery and not 3e....
Thanks,I think i got it. It seems that developer in China always package the rom into Odin struct, so i didn't tried Rom Manager.
And dimab, I think what you need is search "Captivate JI6 kernel with "2e recovery" enabled" (I can't post link since i was new user)
rogerhe said:
Thanks,I think i got it. It seems that developer in China always package the rom into Odin struct, so i didn't tried Rom Manager.
And dimab, I think what you need is search "Captivate JI6 kernel with "2e recovery" enabled" (I can't post link since i was new user)
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thanks
I've seen this topic, but i do actually got the 2e recovery running, so what's the point?
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Hmmm, can this be the problem i got? Flashed from JH to Cognition 2.2B6 via rom manager, and made a backup before. Now when i'm trying to flash back the backed up JH (2.1) rom my phone is stuck on AT&T screen....
edit: with cognition 2.2 i still got 2e recovery and not 3e....
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well first off you still have 2e because Cog 2.2 Beta 6 uses a modified 2e recovery (its modified to work with froyo)
I think that when you create a backup of your rom with RomManager it doesn't include a backup of the kernel. If so when you tried to flash your 2.1 backup it never switched your kernal back to a 2.1 compatible version. hence the not booting past the att screen.
You might want to try flashing just the kernal (not the whole rom) with ODIN... Or even easier if you have your backup on your computer you can odin 1click back to stock, put your backup back on your phone, and flash the backup again with RomManager.
Trump211 said:
well first off you still have 2e because Cog 2.2 Beta 6 uses a modified 2e recovery (its modified to work with froyo)
I think that when you create a backup of your rom with RomManager it doesn't include a backup of the kernel. If so when you tried to flash your 2.1 backup it never switched your kernal back to a 2.1 compatible version. hence the not booting past the att screen.
You might want to try flashing just the kernal (not the whole rom) with ODIN... Or even easier if you have your backup on your computer you can odin 1click back to stock, put your backup back on your phone, and flash the backup again with RomManager.
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Woah, this did helped! HUGE thanks! First time used Odin 1Click and it was smooth, and then restored my 2.1 backup.
Didn't needed to backup on computer the rom backups, since everything was left the same...
Dima
Installed Froyo 2.2 (updated through Samsung Kies), then installed OCLF Oneclicklagfix and rooted succesfully.
If I understood it correctly, when a new android firmware is available through Kies, I will not be able to get the new firmware, because I unofficialy rooted the phone. Therefor, I would like to know; how can I get the phone back to the original state (before I installed lagfixes and rooted the phone)?
Is a factory reset with the three key combination sufficient enough?
DISABLE THE LAGFIX FIRST.
Download the Firmware from samfirmware.com and use a flash with Repartition. I recommend you to flash your stock version and then use Kies to update.
If you want to restore to factory settings, you may do so after flashing the new firmware by going to the Recovery Menu and Wiping Data/Factory Reset.
How did I permabrick my cappy?
Flashing with Odin, I restored to the Rogers stock 2.1 firmware, however the phone refused to boot past the rogers loading screen. I re flashed the phone a few more times playing with the flashing options of Odin, using alternate stock .tar files with no luck. My final flash caused the phone to get into such a state that going into download mode no longer worked, as well as it failing to boot. Luckily Rogers warranty has replaced the phone for me
Any ideas on what caused the phone from booting into the OS, so I don't do it again?
Additional Questions
1. The new cappy given to me through the Roger's warranty has stock 2.2 loaded on it. Is there anyway to back up this firmware to a tar file for later use? If so, how can I use it in conjunction with Odin to restore to stock 2.2?
2. Do I HAVE to restore the phone to 2.1 eclaire firmware before loading a custom ROM on it? Or is it possible to root / reboot into clockwork recovery and successfully flash from stock 2.2 froyo?
3. In my past experiences, after restoring to Rogers 2.1 stock firmware through Odin, kies no longer recognizes the firmware currently loaded on my device... Is this normal? Any fixes? Is there anyway to get kies to recognize the firmware such that it would be able to upgrade or even wipe the phone with the standard stock firmware? I ask this because on the new kies I see the function "emergency firmware recovery".
did you brick flashing the NEW stock 2.1 thats in my sig? or the old one that messed alot of people up in a few ways?
#1 yes but unsure how to make, it would be used like any other tar and odin.
#2 from what ive seen sofar, 2.1 wont boot on phones that came with 2.2, but it was a noob i was talking to that had the issue. the only thing you run into is having 3e recovery and needing the fix before you can load clockwork on 2.2. all is good from there.
#3 normal. no fix. keis sucks
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did you brick flashing the NEW stock 2.1 thats in my sig? or the old one that messed alot of people up in a few ways?
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Yeah it was from the one in your sig (linked in the stickies I believe).
#2 from what ive seen sofar, 2.1 wont boot on phones that came with 2.2, but it was a noob i was talking to that had the issue. the only thing you run into is having 3e recovery and needing the fix before you can load clockwork on 2.2. all is good from there.
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Thanks for the link! and the prompt response
Are there any .tar files floating around for the Rogers froyo 2.2 that address the warranty / logo issues? (search function seems to be broken).
Any stock 2.2 rogers .tar files for use with Odin floating around the board?
What is your recommendation with regards to proceeding with flashing? Should I try to flash 2.1 on the phone with 2.2 preloaded, or just go the 3e clockwork recovery fix route?
Any other pieces of reading you might be able to point me towards in this regard?
I would suggest adding your locale to your profile for future reference, as restoring an I896 is different than an I897.
There is also another way to get clockwork on your phone.
Use Odin and just flash the speedmod kernel .tar from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
I have done it this way since I got my phone and have yet to run into a problem. This works with 2.2 only.
2.2 odin flashable (NO ATT boot fix) and cwm upgrade from 2.1 zip. are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
the person i mentioned before that couldnt get my 2.1 stock to boot on his 2.2 ... he did fix the att boot by un-successfully flashing my 2.1 then the 2.2 overtop, then it booted correctly WITH the i896 bootscreen, basically double flash.
i will contact the creator of the updated 2.1 and see if he can do it to 2.2 as well.
feel free to attempt to flash 2.1 to confirm weather or not it does work on a phone that comes with 2.2. as this isnt confirmed. also note any new notes on the 2.1 stock rom page.
oh and speaking of the updates on that page...
theres the fix for the getting stuck at rogers bootscreen on first boot after flash... (the problem you had)
reboot into recovery and clear data and cache, reboot. done.
sorry its late...
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oh and speaking of the updates on that page...
theres the fix for the getting stuck at rogers bootscreen on first boot after flash... (the problem you had)
reboot into recovery and clear data and cache, reboot. done.
sorry its late...
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That's common. Everytime I flash the gf's Galaxy Spica, that's the first thing you have to do with it is clear the data and cache. I just do it instinctively now.
My i9000 is on i9000xxjvb stock rom. I flashed modified kernal to make it rooted and cwm enabled. I am unable to move appear from phone memory to internal SD. An error message appears " failed to move application, not enough memory."
To get rid of this, i tried Hamsterbread 1.1 custom rom, but problem not solved. I used every method from hard reset to wipe cache, data and more. But nothing happened.
Now I want to downgrade to froyo. I don't know how to do this? Please, tell the procedure in detail and step by step. I belong to India. There is no 2.2.1 version available for India. Can I go for other regions versions? or I should stick with i9000ddjp6 which is latest verison for India. Thanks
i havnt tried downgrading. but i think you could try flashin back using odin with bootlooder froyo.
i live in india but use european firmware an see no problem
^^ Im not sure about this. I think you can just flash a Froyo ROM via CWM. I am not sure about this. It always makes sense to search around before you do either. Good Luck!
If you flash speedmod (or whatever froyo kernel you choose) through odin, then simply install whatever rom through cwm via zip file. The downgraded froyo rom doesn't need bootloaders, the gingerbread ones are backwards compatible. Tried it myself and it worked without a hitch.
Just flash any stock firmware through ODIN with pit and repartitioned tick and you are good to go.
Makes sense to open eyes and read the post that tells you how .Or even use the search button .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033781
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just download a stock froyo firmware and flash with odin. there are tutorials all over the place
just flash froyo kernel using odin and then enter clockwordmod install zip
Hey everyone. I have a captivate running Spenditity 6.4 and i need to restore it back to the stock firmware to have it sent in. I CANNOT use odin because my USB port is messed up and doesn't work. I need the stock firmware in .ZIP format so I can flash in CWM, I also need it to not be rooted.
Thanks in advance
If it's Gingerbread and using ext4, which it most likely is.. and you want to go back to stock.. you need to flash using Odin in order to reformat the partitions to the correct filesystem.
Well I just installed the JH7 update with clockwork, it's rooted for some reason and I need to unroot it now. Any ideas how? I only install apps that are in the marketplace now.