Hi...I've been reading through everything regarding Google vs. Cyanogen dispute. IMHO I feel very sad about it but....what can we do?? I like CM ROMS they are probably the best (I'm not saying JF, HAYKURO, etc, are bad, just that I prefer CM) but since all the C&D issue Gmail, Gtalk, Market, don't work..Well
Well the thing is, I've read some comments that on CM Versions up to 4.0.4 everything still works fine...it just gets messy from 4.1.x and up, is this true??
cause I still have 4.0.4 in my computer and I really want to flash it to this version...so please let me know..
Thanks!
We are all done talking about the C&D. There are plenty of threads about it. Download CyanogenMod Petition off the market to show support.
As for his ROMs 4.04 is stable. Nice ROM with lots of themes for it. 4.1.11.1 was days away from being stable. It is pretty stable. The only problems I have noted is some apps arnt supported with 1.6 firmware base. And sometimes my icons just disapear from my home screen but, after reboot its fine for another 24 hrs.
2 things really
1. you have a valuable pm
2. ummm 4.1.11.1 hasn't given me any problems except once out of a week or so i have been using it, i got the coma issue and had to reboot. also anything you have on your computer is well.... on your computer, is google going to stop every one they see with a g1 and go to settings- about phone and see if there a cyanogen mod version number there.
I think I didn't make my self very clear, when I ask if it is giving any problems I refer to the Market, Gmail, Gtalk still workin with CM version 4.0.4...that is the real question
i use gtalk all the time in 4.1.11.1. the market works just fine for me. gmail registers my emails on my phone faster then it does on my computer. i don't use maps to often (unless i go out of state, i know where i am going), so i haven't had a need to use it in 4.1.11.1, but it still should work.
I literally mean the only i have had with 4.1.11.1 is that one instance of the coma occurring. i have had no problems with anything else that is rom specifically related, the only thing that isn't the roms fault is that some of the apps are not 1.6 compatible, but again, not the fault of the rom.
I Understand
I get what you are saying. Google has no way of detecting that you are using an "unauthorized" ROM. Flash away. Except for the "coma" issue (was wondering what that was called), 4.1.11.1 is pretty nice. I prefer 4.0.2 over 4.0.4 for the stable but that's just me. Anyway, why not wait. Cyan has a surprise for everyone this weekend.
In the recent cyanogen roms since 4.19 which required flashing with the htc radio my gps has stopped getting fixes. I am limited to only cell tower location. Maybe this is a radio issue? If so what is the best radio alternative which will work with cyanogen roms? I need my gps back. Thanks.
I just tested gps on my dream with cyan 4.2.1 on top of the htc flash. Working with no problems, even indoors. If you don't get any better tips, I would suggest installing again, and this time wipe ext3 partition in addition to wiping, and don't restore anything from backup for root users etc. before you check the GPS.
Hi
This may not be a tip, but i had the same problems when i upgraded rom, I had copilot and Ndive that worked prior, But stopped after urgrading rom to CYAN 4.1.999
Only solution i found was to try other alternatives, the only one i got to work flawlessly was Sygic mobile maps 9 V7.71, gets a fix almost immediatley and works Perfecto.
Hope this helps
I have the exact same problem!
I flashed cyan 4.21 and stopped getting GPS fix. I wiped, wiped ext3 and installed enomther AOSP 1.6 without the expansion pack. I can't get a gps fix anyway...
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I flashed cyan 4.21 and stopped getting GPS fix. I wiped, wiped ext3 and installed enomther AOSP 1.6 without the expansion pack. I can't get a gps fix anyway... What the hell did cyan do this time. He really messes up basic functionality on android, I think that's why google are trying to stop him.
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Christ, thats an ignorant post
Cyanogen does not "mess up basic functionality", 99.9% of people running his roms have no such problems, myself included. It was probably something you missed or did wrong in the process. Did you follow the steps in his first post carefully, it is a more convoluted process coming from 4.1.11 because of the changes required by Google. In any case, rooting and installing custom roms has its risks and you chose to accept those risks, stop trying to blame someone else when it goes wrong. Take some responsibility, be constructive and try to find a solution instead of crying about it.
Incidentally, the reason Google had an issue with cyanogen was, completely legitimately, because his roms included some of their closed source apps (mail, youtube, market etc) hence why his new roms do not include those and Google are fine with him now. Try reading about it before you shoot your mouth off
I'm trying to work out the problem right now. I wiped again and installed another rom - not cyanogen. The problem is still here. It seems to be a problem that not only I have. It's quite possible that I, and others having the same issue, haven't followed the instructions correctly or did something else wrong.
Try flashing the radio
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
Well, seeing as my GPS just got a fix indoors with Cyanogen's 4.2.2, I think the problem is with you.
Now, without posting what you have done to get your phone to the state it is in now, how in the world can we help figure out what went wrong? This really seems like an isolated incident, and obviously not one that is suggestive of Cyanogen's rom being faulty (pretty damn insulting of you to blame him) since you have the problem even after flashing a rom that you give so much praise to for being 'stable'.
So..... how about you reconsider what you might have done to your phone, and try some troubleshooting...
1. When I am having issues with my GPS, sometimes I find it helps to disable GPS (both wireless and sat), reboot my phone, re-enable them, and try again to get a fix.
2. Use GPS Status2 to see if it is connecting to any sats at all.
See what happens... Who knows, maybe there is something wrong with your phone (ever imagine that?).
Not trying to be rude, or bash you, but you were pretty rude and bashing towards Cyanogen, and then you said you had the problem with someone else's rom too...
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Well, seeing as my GPS just got a fix indoors with Cyanogen's 4.2.2, I think the problem is with you.
Now, without posting what you have done to get your phone to the state it is in now, how in the world can we help figure out what went wrong? This really seems like an isolated incident, and obviously not one that is suggestive of Cyanogen's rom being faulty (pretty damn insulting of you to blame him) since you have the problem even after flashing a rom that you give so much praise to for being 'stable'.
So..... how about you reconsider what you might have done to your phone, and try some troubleshooting...
1. When I am having issues with my GPS, sometimes I find it helps to disable GPS (both wireless and sat), reboot my phone, re-enable them, and try again to get a fix.
2. Use GPS Status2 to see if it is connecting to any sats at all.
See what happens... Who knows, maybe there is something wrong with your phone (ever imagine that?).
Not trying to be rude, or bash you, but you were pretty rude and bashing towards Cyanogen, and then you said you had the problem with someone else's rom too...
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First off. I have tried both steps you suggested.
With gps status I can see 4-5 satelites and the lower right of the display says 0 sats. So I can't get fix, the gps itself works. Could be a problem with gps.cfg, I'm going to look at it now.
The issue occured right after I flashed cyanogen 4.2.1 stable. Even afer wiping entirely and flashing another rom I have the same issue, So I suppose that that the problem might be radio related. I actually consider there might be a problem with the phone, but a user who started this thread also had similar problem after going to cyanogen build. Maybe he did the same mistake as I did. Many times I have installed roms and had no issues while others had them - sometimes they occur sometimes they dont - depending on what spl/radio you are on, even what network you are on and what ROM you are coming from. Sorry for being that rude, I realize that now...
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First off. I have tried both steps you suggested.
With gps status I can see 4-5 satelites and the lower right of the display says 0 sats. So I can't get fix, the gps itself works. Could be a problem with gps.cfg, I'm going to look at it now.
The issue occured right after I flashed cyanogen 4.2.1 stable. Even afer wiping entirely and flashing another rom I have the same issue, So I suppose that that the problem might be radio related. I actually consider there might be a problem with the phone, but a user who started this thread also had similar problem after going to cyanogen build. Maybe he did the same mistake as I did. Many times I have installed roms and had no issues while others had them - sometimes they occur sometimes they dont - depending on what spl/radio you are on, even what network you are on and what ROM you are coming from. Serry for being that rude, I realize that now...
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We all get upset when things don't work that we expect to, my suggestion about that is to go back and clean up your posts before Cyanogen reads them (hopefully) so as to avoid pissing him off.. He has given us so much, and we don't want to alienate him on XDA...
Anyway, about seeing satellites but not getting a fix, have you tried re-flashing the radio?
You said you have wiped, and flashed two different ROMS. The possibility of it still being a software issue are slim (but still there), if the radio doesn't help... it just may be a hardware thing.
I have never had mine get locks on satellites and not lock-in my position.
I know this stuff has been mentioned, but here is your basic troubleshooting process. Complicated, I know. Shouldn't take all day.
Download GPSStatus2 from the market and check to see if it is connecting to any satellites at all.
a) Go outside, away from buildings and trees, and open GPSStatus2. If it connects to 1 satellite, your receiver is working and it's probably some fluke of atmospheric interference (rain, dust, clouds, temperature, vapor, fog all affect microwave transmission; even air quality) that it can't connect to more. Try some different areas with different weather.
b) If it connects to zero, reinstall radio image from the link a few posts up.
c) Still no luck, go all the way back to stock firmware (flash OriginalSPL if you have DangerSPL installed, then RC29) and let it update to Donut, try again.
d) If it's still not working, your GPS happened to randomly die or something. Call T-Mobile cause you need a warranty replacement. They will send you a new phone, you send the old one back.
You know... if you are only trying google maps, try downloading some alternatives. One off the top of my head is RMaps.
I'm flashing the radio now. I have tried the other steps. I tried to get a fix from different locations, now I'm in the mountains and the device has a clear view to the north, where most sattelites are supposed to be... Yes it could be a hardware issue. As you can see another userr ATINsa, who started the topic has the same issue.
still problems
I don't know why you are attacking that guy. There is a problem. I had it on my old dream which was just stolen and replaced. And now I have it with the replacement. Prior to 4.19 and the radio you had to flash to keep cyan cool with google I had no problems. Google tracks, my maps editor, and google maps have a problem. When using wifi can sometimes connect more. The old cyan roms worked fined. Please don't try to explain to me how to use a gps. I have reflashed and redormatted. This has reccured with all roms since I had to replacwe the radio with the one required for him to be cool with google.
So the quesstion is, what other radios are the newest and will work with gps and cyanogens newest rom?
There are 2 people in this thread with the same prob. A third says google maps didn't work but anothewr gps program did. I have experianced this with2 googlde dev dreams. There is a problem and its not a user problem.
Something like this really sounds like a hardware issue. I don't mess around with the GPS code in my ROMs.
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I don't know why you are attacking that guy. There is a problem. I had it on my old dream which was just stolen and replaced. And now I have it with the replacement. Prior to 4.19 and the radio you had to flash to keep cyan cool with google I had no problems. Google tracks, my maps editor, and google maps have a problem. When using wifi can sometimes connect more. The old cyan roms worked fined. Please don't try to explain to me how to use a gps. I have reflashed and redormatted. This has reccured with all roms since I had to replacwe the radio with the one required for him to be cool with google.
So the quesstion is, what other radios are the newest and will work with gps and cyanogens newest rom?
There are 2 people in this thread with the same prob. A third says google maps didn't work but anothewr gps program did. I have experianced this with2 googlde dev dreams. There is a problem and its not a user problem.
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The thing is, the radio that is flashed with the HTC system image, should be the same radio that you were already running on your phone. I don't think that has been changed since 1.5 came out.
And the problem with your theory of this being more than just an isolated incident is this: most people aren't experiencing this problem, only a handful (two or three people here or there does not a system problem make).
I'm 26 years old and have had windows mobile devices and now I've been on android for about half an year. I have used linux back in school when most of the kids here, blindly defending cyanogen were toddlers. I didn't mean to attack cyanogen or whoever else. It's just that the problem is with at least 2 or 3 people and maybe more. The right thing to do is to calm down and try to go back to a state which works. I have reflashed radio and gone to AOSP donut build. Still no luck. When you wipe you wipe /data and /cache right? What about /system ? I bet it's some of the libraries that have something to do with controlling GPS hardware, which remains after a wipe. It would be a nice idea to flash the SPL again. It will probaby clean things up. This is the next thing I'm going to try. It's a good time for someone with better knowledge of how android works step up and give any other ideas.
For now try :
Flash SPL again (whatever SPL you are using)
Flash Radio (latest one from htc developer site)
Flash some basic rom, like TMO cupcake or donut and let's see of it works. That's what I'm trying to do now. If this doesn't help, we might try the proposed reverting to stock spl and RC29.
axlastro said:
I'm 26 years old and have had windows mobile devices and now I've been on android for about half an year. I have used linux back in school when most of the kids here, blindly defending cyanogen were toddlers. I didn't mean to attack cyanogen or whoever else. It's just that the problem is with at least 2 or 3 people and maybe more. The right thing to do is to calm down and try to go back to a state which works. I have reflashed radio and gone to AOSP donut build. Still no luck. When you wipe you wipe /data and /cache right? What about /system ? I bet it's some of the libraries that have something to do with controlling GPS hardware, which remains after a wipe. It would be a nice idea to flash the SPL again. It will probaby clean things up. This is the next thing I'm going to try. It's a good time for someone with better knowledge of how android works step up and give any other ideas.
For now try :
Flash SPL again (whatever SPL you are using)
Flash Radio (latest one from htc developer site)
Flash some basic rom, like TMO cupcake or donut and let's see of it works. That's what I'm trying to do now. If this doesn't help, we might try the proposed reverting to stock spl and RC29.
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If you wipe it wipes /data, if you flash a new rom it "wipes" (it really formats) /system and /cache. Nothing is left behind on /system...
Ok. I fixed the issue. I'm on danger SPL , newest radio etc...
I reflashed radio (as adviced above). Prior reflashing the radio wiped and installed enomther AOSP+ADP 1.6, with exp pack 2.11.
After that installed an app from market called GPS TEST (Don't know if it had something to do with GPS being fixed)
It detected 5 satelites right by the window indoors. Then Google maps found my location.
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I'm trying to work out the problem right now. I wiped again and installed another rom - not cyanogen. The problem is still here. It seems to be a problem that not only I have. It's quite possible that I, and others having the same issue, haven't followed the instructions correctly or did something else wrong.
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well if you tried another rom and its still there .. then the problem might lie with your phone and not the roms you installing .... is anyone else around you with a G1 not getting gps location also ?
The new Firefox is out for Android, and it requires 2.1 to work. I have Froyo, but it seems to crash as soon as I start the app. Anyone else get it to work?
I checked and it requires an ARMv7 compatible CPU, which means it won't work regardless of the version of Android you have. There was something about nightly builds if you want to give that a swing...
(https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#System_Requirements -- click on the "experimental nightly builds link")
If you do try out the nightly builds, let me know how it goes.
I installed it, and it's starting up. It's been loading for nearly 5 minutes now, and it finally started up. It's really slow, which probably because it's far too early in beta. I wouldn't recommend any G1 user to try this. Waste of time. I couldn't even visit a webpage.
Not to mention that this beta is HUGE. It requires a ton of space on your device. Something like 40mb. I was unsuccessful in getting it to work on my g1.
the alpha worked without problems on my g1. just was a lil bit slow.
If it's anything like the desktop version it's gonna use a metric ****-ton of memory. I tried it and deleted it when it didn't work. I'm also on froyo.
I currently have 5.12.00.08 radio. According to this page: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version it says the radio should be the LATEST VERSION. But doesn't say what version that is. I have CM 7.0.3 and 2.6.38.7-CFS-redstar+ kernel.
My understanding is 5.12 is the latest for anyone, but I don't know if it was ever officially released in USA or just Korea. I couldn't find anything definitive.
I've been seeing performance issues for quite some time with regard to 3G data. Doesn't quite seem usable, very slow and sometimes the little arrows show nothing happening for several seconds before anything starts to move. When standing next to someone with a Verizon phone, it's pretty embarrassing when their data is already loaded and I don't even see my little arrows doing anything yet.
Speedtest has almost always been .25MBs-.45MBs when on 3G. I'm not expecting 100Mb, but it really makes the phone hard to use when 3G is this slow.
I've called Tmobile on a few occasions and they either tell me it's an unsupported device and, basically, go pound sand or that they are always working on upgrading service and I should see better speeds with time.
What else can I do to get better speeds?
If everything is working you shouldn't worry too much.
The Radio that got update with OTA GB is 5.08.00.
I've run 5.12.00 before without a problems. I went ahead and put 5.08.00 on cause that's what is official with GB.
baseballfanz said:
If everything is working you shouldn't worry too much.
The Radio that got update with OTA GB is 5.08.00.
I've run 5.12.00 before without a problems. I went ahead and put 5.08.00 on cause that's what is official with GB.
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lol did the same thing
i think 5.12 is a specialized radio for certain regions