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Hey guys,
I have been using App2Sd with ALL my roms.
But...today I was wondering....would I really need it?
I have about 50 apps installed (I can cut that #)...and I'm using the SuperD Rom.
So...do ya'll think I could use the Rom without App2SD?
Or is 40-50 Apps way too much?
I don't have any games installed.
I don't use A2SD (s*itty class 2) and my phone runs fine, but i usually don't have more then 20 apps installed and I remove a lot of the system apps I don't use. Right now, going into settings->SD card, I have 47.31MB of space available on internal phone storage. If you can fit all your apps inside of that, then you should be golden=p.
Hey bud, thanks for answering.
Here's some more information.
I have a 372MB EXT4 partition.
I'm currently using 97MB of it.
I currently have 78.07MB of available space in the internal phone storage.
I know I can uninstall some crappy programs and get to like 40 apps.
Just copy the apk's to /system/app/. It' won't move them back to /system/sd/app, and will stay on the internal memory.
evilkorn said:
Just copy the apk's to /system/app/. It' won't move them back to /system/sd/app, and will stay on the internal memory.
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Afraid that that is the wrong partition.
I filled my stock memory up quick I love apps to sd.
And if you use some apps like certain gps systems it wont even fit on the stock phone memory. I think its a must.
40 apps is pushing it on internal memory. I would suggest keeping a2sd. What's the harm?
I just installed the latest version of the fresh Rom. The page for the rom says it will automagically use apps2sd If The card is formatted properly. I use the recovery rom (1.52) to format the card, with a 32mb swap and 512mb ext. But, iapps2sd doesn't seem to be working. I have rbooted, and I have also used the recovery Rom to " move apps and dalv to SD", but the apps are still taking up the phones internal memory.
Is there something I'm missing to activate apps2sd, or move the apps over?
Thanks
http://geekfor.me/faq/apps2sd/
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
fx17 said:
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
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Everytime you install or run things, internall memeory is still used for data and other items that are not the APK file. What is the memory amount you show as free? A2SD only moves APK's to the SD. Additionally you can move the dalvik-cache there as well, but internal memory still gets used by app data, widget data, etc.. You might have a bunch of widgets storing lots of data.
Ceger
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
caguy83 said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
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It works fine for me. Just follow the instructions on link provided above by flipz
Don't forget to upgrade ext2 to ext3
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Hey guys, I tried searching to see if this was possible a repeated question but didn't find anything so I am sorry if it has already been covered and I missed it.
Anyways, a few days ago I put cyanogen froyo on my hero but didn't like it so I reverted back to my nandroid backup. Then I tried 2 different 2.1 roms that allowed LWPs, ZenHero and Regaw 2.1. I ended up reverting back to my original nandroid backup but now my internal memory only shows 34MB free, which was previously 16 until I ran cachecleaner. I'm somewhat of a noob to android and have been doing a lot of reading on here before I make any change to my phone. But the 34mb seems abnormally low. Is there any possibility that some of the previous ROMs have left data on my phone which is causing this? If so how can I go about completely wiping all of them from my system?
Again, sorry if this has been covered. I tried my best to see if it has been asked before, and thanks for any advice you may have.
I've said it before but I am really impressed with the developers here and the friendliness and helpfulness of the community here.
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
pbp776 said:
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
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1. Currently I am back on the nandroid backup of the original 2.1. I have put on cyanogen 2.2, ZenHero, and RegawMod on it previously. I used cyanogen twice so I was worried that maybe when I installed the second time that it installed again in a separate location taking up twice the space. If that makes sense.
2. I don't know the exact number but I wouldn't say it is anything large. Maybe in the 10-15 range. I went through the application manager and sorted by size, most of them were under 1mb with a few noteable exceptions (google maps, facebook, and soem other games around the 3mb range). I did notice that my contacts storage was 20+mb, probably because it synced with my facebook and downloaded everyones picture...not just my contacts. After clearing the cache for contacts storage it went down to 340kb. I lost the facebook sync, but it was beginning to annoy me anyway.
3. Not atm, however I should probably get on this since I just got a 4 gb class 6 sdhc. I haven't messed with the partitions yet though, baby steps.
Yes, I am talking about the internal storage. I have 3+gb free on my card.
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
pbp776 said:
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
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Thanks so much, I was concerned that I was somehow dwindling my memory down and fearful that another rom would brick my phone because of a lack of space. This question wasn't based on a complaint with the phone or rom, more of a request to hear something along the lines of "it's normal" to ease my mind.
Damn...I have CM6 Nightly 8-25 and I have 125 MB free of internal storage..Only have 10 apps installed. CM6 is the ****
Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.
Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
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When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken
Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?
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that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space
those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there
I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.
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So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
bproulx said:
So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
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+1 using holiraider
your internal sd is only 9.48gb(ish). on that, you can delete anything you want. whether any apps use any of the data in there is dependent on the apps you have installed. there is nothing there that is */required/* for your rom to function correctly
after backing up all your pictures/music/titanium backup files/clockworkmod backups/etc to your computer or all on an external card, you can safely format the internal sd. the system will recreate any files/folders it needs.
personally, i would just back EVERYTHING on the internal sd up to my computer, format the internal sd from the system menu, and if anything doesnt work properly after that, you always have the files handy.
I have a 32gb sd card so i backup the internal to sdcard2 into a ".No Media" folder. I hate duplicating images.. But this way i always have a back up with me since i like to flash roms while im at work (to impatient to wait till im home).