Hi folks,
It seems that many of us are notcing a huge lag on our GPS while navigating...
Others seem that they don't have any lag...
What do I mean by lag? Well, for example, if I'm passing under a bridge, my GPS software shows me still behind the bridge. Sometimes, the lag is more than 5 seconds...
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In order to sort out what could be the cause of this lag, I took the iniciative of opening this thread.
What I expect from you guys, is that you tell if you have a lag or not, by voting on the poll (to have a statistic overview) and also by telling in your post, if you have the lag or not, and specify:
1-What ROM you're using
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
3-Which Radio you're using
4-Where do you live, or use the device
5-Which GPS software you use
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
9-The GPS software (the executables, not the maps!) are installed in the phone memory, or in the storage?
10-Other info you may feel useful
Let's see if we can find out what makes our GPS lazzy ...it could happen that it's something solvable by our wise cookers
I'm counting with your participation!!!!
HastaSSSS
1-What ROM you're using
Currently TLR V3 but have used original stock UK, TLR V1 and V2
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
UK Diamond - DIAM100.
3-Which Radio you're using
Currently 1.00.25.06 but have used my stock radio 1.00.25.03 and 1.00.25.05, all have been excellent but have noticed 1.00.25.06 gives me a little better GPS accuracy when pinpointing my position.
4-Where do you live, or use the device
I live in South Wales UK.
5-Which GPS software you use
Always use TomTom 7 for car navigation and use Google Maps now and again.
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
Mine varies a lot as I sometimes have many apps open, but usually I have 25-35mb free ram when using TomTom 7.
7-Other info you may feel useful
Nothing I can think of, but I never had any lag whatsoever on my phone using multiple radios and roms. GPS accuracy is extremely accurate, when viewing my my location in Google Maps using GPS it puts the dot directly on top of my house and in the right room to. about 2ft out
Radeon123 said:
7-Other info you may feel useful
[/B]Nothing I can think of, but I never had any lag whatsoever on my phone using multiple radios and roms. GPS accuracy is extremely accurate, when viewing my my location in Google Maps using GPS it puts the dot directly on top of my house and in the right room to. about 2ft out [/SIZE]
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Which HardSPL you have installed?
And when driving, don't you have any lag? I mean, like passing under the bridge with your car, but the GPS still indicates that you haven't reached the bridge yet...
???
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Which HardSPL you have installed?
And when driving, don't you have any lag? I mean, like passing under the bridge with your car, but the GPS still indicates that you haven't reached the bridge yet...
???
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It's in my sig, am using HardSPL OliNex 1.40 Developer Edition.
When driving I have never experienced that problem, as soon as I am about to go under a bridge TomTom 7 is spot on, same with round about, if I am halfway way around a round about TomTom 7 also says it's halfway around it.
Never had any lag with my old Tytn 2 or my Diamond.
And which software do you have installed on your device?....
HastaSSSS
1-What ROM you're using
Stock NLD 1.37.403.3
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
NLD Diamond - DIAM100.
3-Which Radio you're using
1.00.25.03
4-Where do you live, or use the device
East Netherlands. I use my Diamond mostly in west and in between and West Germany.
5-Which GPS software you use
Sygic and iGo (iGo has a better navigation in cities and Sygic outside of cities). TomTom also works fine, but i prefer Sygic/iGo.
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
About 52 MB available before and 49/50 MB after.
7-Other info you may feel useful
I have no lag with my Diamond GPS
TF3D is off!!
I constantly update GPS locations using QuickGPS
It's 9 questions now...not 7
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
And which software do you have installed on your device?....
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Lots
Here is a current list of my installed apps and games.
Programs
Adobe Flash Lite
Adobe Reader LE
Schaps Advanced Config
AppToDate
Audio Booster
Batti
BT Audio
Call Firewall
Coreplayer
Cradle Alarm
FM Radio
Google Maps
GPS Speed Sentry
GPS Test
Gsens
Messenger
Opera
PHM Registry Editor
Quickmark
Remote Desktop
Task Manager
TomTom 7
Youtube
Zip
Games
Advanced Brain Trainer v1
Advanced Brain Trainer v2
Astraware Casino
Bejewelled 2
Chess Genius
Firehawk
Pacman
Pocket Mini Golf 2 and all map addons
Pocketsand
Spb Arkaball 2
Tank Ace
Teeter
Word Challenge
Hummmm...you don't have Schaps Advanced Tool installed...
Could it be that this application, since it detects if we are using A-GPS or not, may interfere in some way with the system?...
It's just an assumption, not an afirmation...
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Hummmm...you don't have Schaps Advanced Tool installed...
Could it be that this application, since it detects if we are using A-GPS or not, may interfere in some way with the system?...
It's just an assumption, not an afirmation...
HastaSSSS
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Well:
1-What ROM you're using
SwiftBL WWE Diamond Rom V3.2
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
DIAM100
3-Which Radio you're using
.05
4-Where do you live, or use the device
Denmark, Soenderborg (Sønderborg), Odense.
5-Which GPS software you use
TomTom7
Google Maps
HTC Gps Tool
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
Right after Soft Reset - TF3D Enabled: 64.25mb
With TomTom7 running and having a Lock: 55mb
After TomTom7 is closed: 60mb
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
1.40.Olinex - Devel Edition
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
All basic from the SwiftBL 3.2 + HTC GPS TOOLS
Which means that Advanced Config is installed and A-GPS is disabled.
9-Other info you may feel useful
No lag whatsoever, did have a problem after the flash where i could not get a lock, fixed that with the HTC GPS TOOLS and its "Nav. Init" buttion fuction whatever that does, and now it works great.
From i push the TomTom icon in program till i have a lock takes 22 seconds, when iam inside - actually on the toilet.
I don't think it has to do with the gps, I have the lag too on Igo8 and Tomtom 7, but if you do a preview of the trip both on tomtom and Igo its like its running on 3-4 fps, ndrive works perfectly! So the problema I think is just about optimization of the programs. On my Trinity both worked fine and with much more frames, not like this.
Hi,
Could you please post the specs that were asked in the first post?
It would be useful
If I understand what you meant, is that you telling it could have to do with video aceleration...However, I tested with an external Bluetooth GPS receiver, and it worked perfectly...No lag whatsoever...
So, this means that VGA is out of the equation...unless, when using the external receiver, the load on the cpu is less (because the aceleration could be unexistant) and then the rendering is smoother...
But it wouldn't make sense, because not all of us has the lag...
At this point, I believe is has something to do with a certain aplication that some of us has installed...or some configuration external to GPS that may be interfering...
HastaSSSS
1-What ROM you're using
Stock- RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
DIAM100
3-Which Radio you're using
1.00.25.05
4-Where do you live, or use the device
Portugal
5-Which GPS software you use
TOMTOM 7.43, IG8, Ndrive
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
don't know
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
1.37 olinex dev
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
advanced config
resco explorer
coreplayer
Thats all, but as I said, seems weird that without gps signal, tomtom demonstrating trip is still slow, nothing smooth.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Hummmm...you don't have Schaps Advanced Tool installed...
Could it be that this application, since it detects if we are using A-GPS or not, may interfere in some way with the system?...
It's just an assumption, not an afirmation...
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It's already in my list, 3rd one down, forgot to put Schaps in front of it, will fix that now
I also leave A-GPS off as after a while it causes my GPS not not work properly, example, running TomTom 7 or any other GPS app with A-GPS on, the app will detect the sats, connect to 8 or 9 of them for a split second, disconnect and then attempt to connect to them again, does this over and over. Turning A-GPS off fixes this problem.
Have had that problem on all ROMS and radios I have tried, A-GPS used to work perfectly on the Tytn 2 though
Radeon123 said:
Have had that problem on all ROMS and radios I have tried, A-GPS used to work perfectly on the Tytn 2 though
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No need to use A-GPS as 'Quick GPS' does it for you. Leave it off.
1-What ROM you're using
Elite 3.0
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
DIAM100
3-Which Radio you're using
1.00.25.11
4-Where do you live, or use the device
Australia
5-Which GPS software you use
TOMTOM 7.43
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
before: 53%
after: 53%
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
1.40 olinex dev
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
advanced config
resco explorer
coreplayer
SPB GPRS Monitor
resco backup
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D config
not ROM related I think
I can just give you my input found on testing a lot of ROM's and different GPS maps, incl. passive GoogleMaps (which is a good benchmarkingtool)
1. I had lag on TYTNII and have lag on Diamond ONLY when using the on-board - CPU combined SirfIII.
2. In all ROM's Assisted GPS is disabled.
3. tested 5 own manufactured + 4 competition Bluetooth receivers and found NO lag in Garmin XT, Mapking 2007, mapkingV7 and papago.
Lag was still identified , though less than with internal GPS, in Google Maps at oversized zoom. (3G used in same environment and same daily routing, so no impact here)
Should we not point the finger to the CPU?
When internal GPS used, I got a constant 95% CPU usage to 100%
With external GPS, CPU consumes 75% on average which migh secure correcte Map rendering maybe?
Hope I am correct (and that it is not ROM related) as I need to promote our external GPS solutions ;-)
No lag for me whatsoever.. Details are:
1-What ROM you're using
Dutty's Hybrid v2 - I have also used Bepe's 0.95, Walshieau's Elite 3.0 and none of them have had any GPS lag
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
DIAM100
3-Which Radio you're using
1.00.25.03 and now 1.00.25.05 - neither lag
4-Where do you live, or use the device
Australia - used in Melbourne and Brisbane (City and Suburban areas)
5-Which GPS software you use
Nav N Go iGo 8, TomTom 7
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
Varies.. ~54MB before starting iGo8... ~28MB with iGo8 running... ~52MB after closing iGo8
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
1.40.Olinex Developer Edition Unsigned
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
Everything that came with Dutty's Hybrid, PocketCM, PCM Keyboard
9-Other info you may feel useful
No lag whatsoever - now and then it might be about 1meter off but rarely.. Even in the city, it takes barely 20 seconds for me to get satelit locks.
No lag
1-What ROM you're using
Stock RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe.
2-Which Diamond you have: DIAM100, DIAM 140, etc... (visible in bootload mode)
Diam100
3-Which Radio you're using
see 1
4-Where do you live, or use the device
NLD
5-Which GPS software you use
Latest Igo 8
6-How much free memory before and after using the GPS navigation software
Before loading Igo: 70 MB free Ram 46 (and less) when using Igo.
7-Which HardSPL do you have installed
None @ this moment.
8- Which software do you have installed on your device
INstalled: TotalCmd and taskmgr
UNinstalled (or stopped services): TF3D, EnargeStartMenu, LargeTitleBar, HTCvolume, SqmUpload..
9-Other info you may feel useful
There is a huge difference with all services on.
With HTC EnlargeStartMenu and LargeTitleBar both off icon's are showing OK again (sometimes they where a bit strange).
With TF3D off my sync-software (for iMac) Eltima Syncmate also works perfect.
With TF3D on, it doesn't work.
Everything stock 1.93 WWE installed.
About 1 second lag, I find that very acceptable.
What software have used to determine CPU usage on handset? Thank you!
ceevee369 said:
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Should we not point the finger to the CPU?
When internal GPS used, I got a constant 95% CPU usage to 100%
With external GPS, CPU consumes 75% on average which migh secure correcte Map rendering maybe?
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