Alright,
After having root taken from the 2.2.1 update (and refusal to do rageagainstthecage), I am taking the plunge and flashing a custom ROM. I have downloaded and stored a stock, unrooted rom on my SD card (FRG83) from Modaco. My question is a very sad one, but after much searching, I don't feel I have gotten an answer that is adequate. What's CM6 nightlies all about? I will be flashing the most recent CM6 ROM soon, but if there is a way to pull for updates via CM6 and have it update every night at 3:00AM or so, that would be optimal. Any advice, flaming, links, support, or additional questions is welcomed.
Thank you
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Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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Sent from my Nexus One
hackm0d said:
Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc
I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
Becksman said:
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
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Apps2SD will be there in 6.1......That's been communicated.....
Right now Firerat has build an script which does the JOB, I have a dream and using apps2sd with CM6....
Search the thread or XDA and you will get all the info....
FroYo, that CM6 is based on, has it's own implementation, often referred to as Apps2FAT. Cyanogen, and others, have stated that something resembling the CM4/5 Apps2Ext will be in the next release of CM.
Thanks for the replys so far. I was aware that an implementation of Apps2SD in CM6.1 is planned. I know as well that there is a workaround with firerat's patch.
I just tried to understand what's different with CM6 in comparison to CM5. I thought: hey, maybe with CM6 there's a good reason why apps2SD is not supported anymore. Maybe there's an alternative to apps2SD which works more reliable (not that it didn't with apps2SD on CM5). If so, I would have been willing to reinstall my apps and use the new system.
If there's no reason not to use apps2SD in CM6 then I'll consider updating. Either now, applying firerat's patch, or in some time when CM6.1 is out...
Best regards,
Becksman
it is Apps2SD, but it is saving the data to the FAT32 partition, rather than the EXT partition we are used to. one limitation I've discovered was by installing desktop widgets on the external. when the OS booted up, none of the widgets loaded.
I suspect the reason CM6.0 doesn't have Apps2Ext is threefold.
FroYo has something similar built-in. Therefore, users have a solution to the underlying problem w/out a custom CM solution. (problems w/ that implementation notwithstanding)
A polished solution would have to integrate with the FroYo solution in some way. This takes extra work.
Getting FroYo running solidly was a huge effort of it's own. TeamDouche expanded the number of supported devices by a huge number. They integrated the completely new build system Google released with FroYo. Adding another feature, especially in light of #1 and #2 above, would have delayed the release without real merit.
Thanks for the clarifications.
So I guess I'll stick with Apps2Ext. Though I guess I'll have to wait until CM6.1 is out, as I really don't have the time right now to keep myself busy playing with my phone and try to make everything work.
Thanks again for your effort - what a wonderful forum.
Regards,
Becksman
Hi everyone!
I hope I came to the right forum with this...
I (once upon a time) was a proud owner of a Milestone (A853). Then I was the content owner of a Milestone running Android 2.1. This turned into a disillusioned and never-to-buy-Motorola-again-ever Milestone owner when it took them ages to release an update to 2.2. Now that they did, I'm just plain angry. Their release is so ridiculously bad, it's a beta version at best. Therefore I have finally decided to finally get a custom ROM.
Now I did a bit of googling and found this forum and another site hosting ROMs (theunlockr.com/category/roms-2/android-roms-2/motorola-milestone-roms/ - can't post real links yet, sorry)
Seems like there are quite a few ROMs to choose from. Unfortunately I have no idea which one would be the best for my needs, nor do I know how I'd get them onto my stone...
Things that are important for my are (in that order):
- long battery life
- stable operation
- email via IMAP and Exchange
- camera, gps for My Tracks & Navigation
- sync with google calendar & contacts
- pdf & doc-viewer
- bluetooth and wifi-tethering (the later with WPA2)
- good performance
So I need help with two things: choosing the ROM best meeting these demands, and getting said ROM onto my phone. The tutorials I found so far were not very helpfull to me unfortunately, since they seemed to asume I already knew quite a few things and had a bunch of tools already installed. Is there something like a "dummies guide to flash your Milestone"?
And can someone recommend a certain ROM to me? Preferably one that isn't to hard to find and is easy to flash?
Also, do I loose the stuff stored on my SD-Card when I flash the phone? There are quite a lot of pictures and My Tracks, well, tracks, that I'd hate to loose.
tl,dr: Motorola sucks, I need help in choosing a ROM and getting it on my Milestone.
Thx,
Alex
You should try APAC.. long battery time
mikicishte said:
You should try APAC.. long battery time
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I think you need to use TheFroYoMod, it's a very stable and battery friendly ROM. I don't want to brag, but I think my guide is very n00b friendly: CLICK
There is also a list of all ROM's available for the Milestone.
I'm using CM7 at the moment and i really love it, you also need to try this one out.
Installing a ROM doesn't touch your SD card outside of reading the install package.
Your choice of ROM is really a personal thing but a pretty safe bet to start with CyanogenMOD 6; it's one of the most common ROM's and it's very stable. While the Milestone is not "Officially" supported by CM, there are a ton of folks around here that have run it, and are quite familiar with it. Check out the link in the Milestone Dev section of this forum. As a first time flasher I'd stay away from CM7 at this time, it's still in development.
A couple of reminders:
-Your Milestone is not a DROID and is not compatible with DROID ROMS or guides.
-Always insure your battery is fully charged before flashing anything. Having a dead battery with a FUBAR ROM is bad.
-Back-up your stuff! Once you have the custom recovery loaded you can create a "Nandroid" back-up of your stock ROM (basically a disk image) through the custom recovery. This will give you something to fall back on if the ROM softbricks your device.
The guide posted above is a great guide. Way clearer then the one I followed originally. I highly recommend it.
thx 4 all your posts!
Actually I already flashed cm7rc3 at about 1:30am on sunday, after I worked my way through a lot of tutorials.
It works quite fine, only the galery-app is giving me trouble, but I guess that could be connected to me havin 1.4k photos on my sd-card. Guess it's time for some cleanup!
Thank you drae52 for pointing out the link (and thank you eXtink for putting it in your sig)! Especially the OR part is really helpfull, as I didn't know until now what all the options do and was afraid to touch any. Now I'm definitly looking forward to installing that adblocker!
Now that OR is set up good and propper and I figured out the procedure I think I'll try some other ROMs too in time. Thank you again for your help!
Alex
I searched but as usual I suck at searching this site so if there's already a thread please point me there and a mod can close this question down.
I've been running gingerbread ROMs for about the last month or so. It's been fun and I like the work the devs have done so far but I'm just not satisfied with the performance yet (mostly battery drainage stuff, some lockups and other minor issues).
I want to go back to a froyo ROM. Anything I need to do special for this? do I need to flash the old bootloaders? I'm not sure what is required but I'm sure it's simple.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123566
On this page, just a few threads down.
Your answer is yes, GB bootloaders are backwards-compatible; just don't flash a Froyo ROM that includes secondary Froyo/Eclair bootloader or your phone is not going to be very happy.
Another eagle-eyed member.
Thread closed, please search before you post. Thanks.
I'm a complete noob, so sorry if this is a dumb question. I have spent countless hours reading up on how to do all this stuff the last week but I haven't seen this addressed. I searched before posting, but couldn't find the answer. Will I lose root if flashing to ICS, and if so is there a method to get root again?
I've read that you are able to get root using CWM with 2.3.5. Will that be an option in ICS? Again sorry for the noob question, thanks.
As far as I know, almost all of the ICS Roms out there for Captivate are already rooted so you don't need to do it. Like the one from the CyanogenMod Team, which I'm using right now, is rooted. I'm guessing all the other ICS Roms too.
Sent from my Captivate
That's good to hear! My head is swimming in it right now, so that is one less thing. Thanks a ton for the reply!
All custom roms are rooted. Why would a dev go through the trouble of building a Rom and not have it rooted?
I didn't realize that but it makes sense. Like I said I am completely new to this. I knew that root was lost going from froyo to even the unofficial gingerbread, so is the difference there that the 2.3 was a leak and exactly the same as the official?
yes... leaks are stock firmwares untouched by devs. we take that firmware, add several tweaks (root, zipalign, deodex, extended power menu, locks..ect) and theme it up and that is a rom.
I am enjoying learning all this so thanks for the response, it helps me put it all together in my head.
This, for me, is one of the main reason of using custom roms... pre-rooted and customized with all the bloat removed...
Devs on these boards have spent a good deal of their time making the process painless so people like you and I can enjoy these Android Devices like they truly were meant to be. Free of restrictions from telcos and OEMs...
Don't forget to thank the devs if you decide to use their roms... ^_^
Good luck.