Hello guys, i just received my SGS this moment and came from a Legend. I'm a bit disapointed about the display - not that its very bright and clear, etc. But i can see dark pixels in the edge of white vs. black,gray, etc. Is it because of the big screeen versus the resolution, or? On my legend, i didn't see this. :-(
sackynuts said:
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did you set it on max brightnes? At first I thought it wasn't bright, but then I changed it to max and I'm very happy with it.
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did you set it on max brightnes? At first I thought it wasn't bright, but then I changed it to max and I'm very happy with it.
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Yes i did. Try with something ex. orange on black and you will see a lot of black pixels in the orange color, making it "dirty"... :-(
The screen has higher pixel density, and is brighter than the Legened one. They're both made by Samsung, but the SGS one uses newer screen tech. Are you sure the screen is worse than the legend one?
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Hello guys, i just received my SGS this moment and came from a Legend. I'm a bit disapointed about the display - not that its very bright and clear, etc. But i can see dark pixels in the edge of white vs. black,gray, etc. Is it because of the big screeen versus the resolution, or? On my legend, i didn't see this. :-(
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Picture would really help
from what i've gathered, it seems that you'll have to use your phone for a bit before the screen "adapts" to heat and the color should come out nicely.
idk how true is that though.
I made a similar post a few months back. I had trouble reading black text on white as it looked fuzzy. Now it is nice and sharp but I am not sure if that is because I installed a better font and set it to auto brightness (full was way to much) or if the display has "bedded in" so to speak. Either way it's fine now.
It is the Pentile pattern used on the Samoled display.
I feel it too.
If you come from an LCD display, and if you have good eyes, you will perceive the effect.
The Pentile pattern uses double sized Red and Blue subpixels, and normal sized Green. So, you have just half the pixels with a Red subpixel, and half with Blue.
Thats why you see a checkerboard-like pattern on the screen.
The contrast and black level is way better, but you have this annoying effect on the colors.
Paulo
Funny enough my sgs doesn't seem to have the checkerboard effect whereas my old omnia hd did... Either that or my eye sight is crap.
It's a brilliant display. But its not quite as crisp as an LCD.
The black levels are insane though. I struggle to find the edge of the screen if its black!
The "checkerboard"-effect is still there after one day of use, but i've gotten used to it and don't see it anymore. I wish it wasn't there, but what the hell...
I'm not sure that the checkerboard effect that you guys talking about is the same as what appearing on my screen. I doubt that why when I view 5 color images (atteched below) in full screen. I cannot see smooth colors like showing in LCD, they look more like some texture on the images. Is that called checkerboard effect? If that because of pentile matrix, why this checkerboard isn't show in a smooth pattern? Or this is poor quality of screen production? Because of not only checkerboard I notice, I also notice big vertical gray tint band color on my screen as shown in below picture.
Do you guys see some in yours?
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PS. Sorry for my poor english. It's hard to describe because I'm not english native.
instead of using pictures display to test the screen
use the app called "color flash light"
then you can choose any colour to display on the full screen
and you will easily be able to test your screen
there is also a test screen mode using secret codes
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instead of using pictures display to test the screen
use the app called "color flash light"
then you can choose any colour to display on the full screen
and you will easily be able to test your screen
there is also a test screen mode using secret codes
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Thanks for your suggestion. I have tested my screen through *#0*#. Bright color like RGB display great on my screen. I just doubt that why gray-like color such as my attachments displayed not quite smooth on SAMOLED screen. I also notice unsmoothness gray when pull down notification bar as well as gray bg that some website used and even gray bg that some apps use. I just doubt that.
Anyone else please give me some feedback? When you try to view the above images on your phone I suggest you to set brightness to the lowest for easy noticible. You will see what am I talking about? I want you guys to share your experince with this screen or at least answer me that this is called checkerboard effect or not?
Thanks and cheers
I too have noticed that flat colors around the 50% brightness mark look like they have a pattern.
I'm not talking about screen brightness, but image brightness. So if I look at 50% gray, or one of the images provided above, my screen looks like it has vertical lines breaking up uneven hues.
I have tested my screen and these are not any sort of problems that dead pixels would cause, but rather some sort of artifact. It almost loos like an interference pattern, but it's fixed on screen. It almost looks like burn-in, except it's in unusual areas and shapes.
Any idea what's doing this? Full brightness colors, like red, green, yellow, and white have no such problems.
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I too have noticed that flat colors around the 50% brightness mark look like they have a pattern.
I'm not talking about screen brightness, but image brightness. So if I look at 50% gray, or one of the images provided above, my screen looks like it has vertical lines breaking up uneven hues.
I have tested my screen and these are not any sort of problems that dead pixels would cause, but rather some sort of artifact. It almost loos like an interference pattern, but it's fixed on screen. It almost looks like burn-in, except it's in unusual areas and shapes.
Any idea what's doing this? Full brightness colors, like red, green, yellow, and white have no such problems.
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Thank you for your feedback. At least someone understand what I'm talking about. I think we're in the same situation and have the same suspicion about the strange pattern showing on dark color especially dark gray color and the vertical uneven hue color line or band as appear on my screen.
By the way, if you could provide a picture of your screen, it would be very nice.
It's called banding. Look into voodoo, it has better color calibration. I used voodoo for 2 weeks and the color definitely looks better. Currently not using it because I"m waiting for Froyo.
Yes, I have this too, but I think it's normal for the screens. In actual use you're not looking at straight 50% gray a lot so it doesn't really bother me that much
See forum.xda-developers.com / showthread.php ? p=8750917
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thedauntlessone said:
It's called banding. Look into voodoo, it has better color calibration. I used voodoo for 2 weeks and the color definitely looks better. Currently not using it because I"m waiting for Froyo.
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Thank you mate. I have to try voodoo myself if it'd fix the problem.
furybury said:
Yes, I have this too, but I think it's normal for the screens. In actual use you're not looking at straight 50% gray a lot so it doesn't really bother me that much
See forum.xda-developers.com / showthread.php ? p=8750917
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Thank you for your answer and your link. Actually I think the weird pattern is common in every SGS but the banding one is not. For my case, I have claimed for a screen replacement and waiting to changing it on Monday. Actually I have Samsung replaced my screen for 5 times but with different reasons. Of cause, I think that Samsung has poor QC. Most of the screens that passed my eyes, I also saw banding, some big some small. So I just want to share my experience here for others as a reference.
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There is only one thing I hate about the d3.
Its pentile screen.
Its awful.
If some manufacturer had a screen with identical properties but it was quality....this would be gold! It would satisfy many many d3 owners. it would probably be difficult to install but it'd be worth it to me.
Ik this sounds unpractical...but a solutuon for those who love this phone..but hate the awful screen.
The screen isn't that bad to me I don't even see the pentile.
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gingerbread theme
Using the gingerbread metamoph theme its very obvious. The green 3g icon especially. It just looks awful. My incs screen was so crisp. This is not. Its just disappointing to me because its so high-res...but it doesn't matter because it looks awful. Just an opinion
I LOVE the pentile screen, never seen so good outside and in direct sunlight! Love the matrix too.
It's really not that bad. Only noticeable on small icons. Use Jewremy's modkit for the battery, looks great.
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I like the screen. Yea it isn't perfect but it is very readable outside and works well enough for a phone's screen.
The only color that look right on this screen is the white (and grey gradations down to black). Try some monochrome backgrounds, they look very crisp.
Worst colors for the RGBW pentile matrix are the green and yellow.
Just see how the icon of Google street view looks. It is just so distorted! Overall resolution feels lower than D1 and D2's. Battery life and readability in sunlight are great though. Nothing is perfect, I guess.
Hopefully Droid 4 will use either IPS display or better - RGB stripe matrix AMOLED
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I love it! I don't notice all these many pixels like most everyone else is complaining about.. and I'm a guy who tries to be a "perfectionist" almost, and very little things like that would bother me. For instance, I hate watching SD TV and Movies after going from HD. And I used to own the iPhone 4 for a while, too.
To me, it's my favorite.
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It's shocking! It's disgusting! How could anyone possibly live with a screen like this!
I mean, it's made of pixels and stuff! Little bunches of rectangles making up little bunches of squares making up little words icons and letters! Absolutely disgusting! They should be emitting focused waves of light directly into our eyes at the bare minimum!
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When i put your face right up next to the screen I can see the inside components. But who does that. Best screen out there and way better then my old phone the dx and my vibrant.
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Really don't mind pentile, if I did I wouldn't have bought the phone
Who cares, its not big enough to make a difference, if the phone is used like its ment to be used u cant see the pentile....honestly in all conditions this is the best screen in the business, i HATE the Amoled because it ALWAYS has a blue tint everything is darker, i will admit the Amoled looks Sharper but is sharper better when your colors arent true? I only say the QHD pentile is the best screen because its completely see-able in just about any conditions, BRIGHT LIGHT, EXTREME DARK, UP CLOSE, FAR AWAY,ETC. PLUS Pixels make up everything graphical, and to think you never had a problem with it until u got a high-end smartphone. lol
The only time I ever see the pixelation on my d3 is when I put my face upto it and look closely. From a comfortable view distance, which is less than a foot, its not noticable. I love the screen, and would get one like this again.
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Honestly, I'd rather have a pentile screen on a solid, metal, quality built phone then a SuperAMOLED wrapped in cheap chinese plastic.
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Honestly, I'd rather have a pentile screen on a solid, metal, quality built phone then a SuperAMOLED wrapped in cheap chinese plastic.
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CO-SIGN!!!! The D3's Build Quality is almost unmatched!, Hell Motorola's Build Quality is UNMATCHED. NOT INCLUDING THE CITRUS AND OTHER CHEAP MOTO PHONES.
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Honestly, I'd rather have a pentile screen on a solid, metal, quality built phone then a SuperAMOLED wrapped in cheap chinese plastic.
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OOHHH SICK BURN!
agreed
infact i like pentile. i LIKE the look feel and view of it. amoled is nice but theres something about pentile that i actually like
and as o thers have stated, unless you jam your face in to the phone, its not really noticeable.
I'd like to point out that when the first few smartphones started using amoled screens everyone was complaining then. ''oh its too hard to see in the sun. text doesnt look sharp. colors are blue. blahblah blah''
people complain to just complain.
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Who cares, its not big enough to make a difference, if the phone is used like its ment to be used u cant see the pentile....honestly in all conditions this is the best screen in the business, i HATE the Amoled because it ALWAYS has a blue tint everything is darker, i will admit the Amoled looks Sharper but is sharper better when your colors arent true? I only say the QHD pentile is the best screen because its completely see-able in just about any conditions, BRIGHT LIGHT, EXTREME DARK, UP CLOSE, FAR AWAY,ETC. PLUS Pixels make up everything graphical, and to think you never had a problem with it until u got a high-end smartphone. lol
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I agree that the colors aren't true, it isn't just that they are "bluish" but they also generally appear over saturated, where as pentile is more full saturation leaning towards low saturation.
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Yeah, the build quality of the phone feels great, the back cover could be a tiny bit better though, but it is at worst, on par with another certain device - doesn't feel flimsy either
Pentile is good in displaying non-solid colors. All its disadvantages show up when it has to display solid non-grey scale (B/W) colors.
It is not "pixelation" what you see, it is more appropriate to say "pattern visibility". This problem will be 100% cured once screens get over 320 dpi. At that point pattern will not be visible without magnifying glass, even if you look close up. If the display of D3 was 3.5 inch instead 4 inch at this resolution it would have looked perfect.
Let's hope the next iteration of our beloved phone will keep the 4 inch size, but bump the resolution up to 1280x720 - this will give us enough pixel density to make pentile display look great and still consume less energy and be better visible compared to other display technologies.
Most AMOLED displays are also using pentile matrix. Except for the latest SGSII where it is RGB stripe instead RGBG (found on older Samsung and HTC models).
Personally, the best display I have used is my Nokia E7's "clear black" display. It uses AMOLED technology (regular RGB stripe matrix like with SGS-II), but colors are very natural looking (not over saturated) and visibility in direct sunlight is almost on par with the LCD RGBW Pentile display my XT860 (D3) uses.
Coming from Droid 2 Global (and Milestone 1 before that which has the same display), initially I was disappointed with the new RGBW Pentile matrix display Motorola decided to use. But seeing the advantages -energy savings and direct sunlight visibility, I think it is fair compromise. With the time human eyes adapt and start 'accepting' the patterns in a way you don't notice it any more. I guess I will "survive" until Droid 4 gets released
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Pentile is good in displaying non-solid colors. All its disadvantages show up when it has to display solid non-grey scale (B/W) colors.
It is not "pixelation" what you see, it is more appropriate to say "pattern visibility". This problem will be 100% cured once screens get over 320 dpi. At that point pattern will not be visible without magnifying glass, even if you look close up. If the display of D3 was 3.5 inch instead 4 inch at this resolution it would have looked perfect.
Let's hope the next iteration of our beloved phone will keep the 4 inch size, but bump the resolution up to 1280x720 - this will give us enough pixel density to make pentile display look great and still consume less energy and be better visible compared to other display technologies.
Most AMOLED displays are also using pentile matrix. Except for the latest SGSII where it is RGB stripe instead RGBG (found on older Samsung and HTC models).
Personally, the best display I have used is my Nokia E7's "clear black" display. It uses AMOLED technology (regular RGB stripe matrix like with SGS-II), but colors are very natural looking (not over saturated) and visibility in direct sunlight is almost on par with the LCD RGBW Pentile display my XT860 (D3) uses.
Coming from Droid 2 Global (and Milestone 1 before that which has the same display), initially I was disappointed with the new RGBW Pentile matrix display Motorola decided to use. But seeing the advantages -energy savings and direct sunlight visibility, I think it is fair compromise. With the time human eyes adapt and start 'accepting' the patterns in a way you don't notice it any more. I guess I will "survive" until Droid 4 gets released
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With this in mind, has anyone tried to use LCD Density since root?
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With this in mind, has anyone tried to use LCD Density since root?
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What would that do?! You can't change the physical resolution of the display since it depends on display size and pixel count. I don't think there's software method to increase any of these two physical characteristics of the display.
I just noticed today that the colors on my new Nexus 7 are faded to a blueish tint. One thing is sure, compared to previous Nexus the colors are duller. This is definitely an intensity scale issue, IMO is a little off. I read also a report from ZDNet where they did a deeper screen analysis and blame it on "Asus incompetence" (their words not mines). I took a screenshot directly from tablet and a picture with the actual screen, so you see the difference.
SCREENSHOT white vs. ACTUAL blueish white
(picture taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
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Playing with the brightening settings did not do anything fancy. The whites have a blue tint and the blues are washed. I know that my previous tablet had the beautiful colors you see on the left screen. Not the new one.
I think for now I'm going to refund the tablet and wait for a better batch that will solve all current issues. I'm definitely sold on pure Google experience, for now I will use my Nexus phone which is an amazing device. I'm a little disapointed Google did not contracted Samsung for their tablet as they did for the phone. We would've had perfect tablets, even if the price could've been higher.
September 19th, 2012 Update:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
Although my n7 doesn't have your screen issue. I do want the colors to be more vibrant. It would be nice if a developer made an app to adjust saturation (like PicArts saturation photo effect) and allow it to be applied throughout the system to make screen more vibrant.
There's a rumour that they are getting new screens which should hopefully fix this issue. I don't know when they're supposed to be in production.
I got my replacement tablet today. Is a C8O and has the usual minor lift as well some bezel spacing:
I was able to fix everything easy, using the warping technique. The screen is impeccable, no more flushed colors.
Didn't you get a refund on your old tablet?
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Yes, I purchased the new one today from Futureshop.
This is interesting as we have two Nexus 7's and one of them (it's a C8O) has the same blueish tint that can bee seen in your picture.
The other one is an older C7O and it has a much better screen with a warmer yellow tint.
I've wondered to myself if when the device became a hit that they might have just run out of the better screens.
How can I see is my screen washed?
There is no one with Nexus 7 around me to compare it.
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How can I see is my screen washed?
There is no one with Nexus 7 around me to compare it.
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This screen is very dull and looks almost like it has a subtle gray fog over it when comparing to my Galaxy S III. My unit is great aside from the slightly disappointing screen. Holding out hope for some software fix!
Unfortunately the SGS3 also looks blue. Hard to win! Haha. Best colors and brightness I have seen were on the HTC One X. I'd pay double the price of the Nexus 7 if it had that screen. Wouldn't even think twice about it either.
Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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I don't think the cost of the tablet is the reason or should be an excuse in this case. This is after all not a normal $200 tablet. My $200 Nook Color tablet produces better colors and the $200 Kindle Fire HD has much better colors.
The Nexus 7 has an IPS display. I think it should look better than this. I'm hoping it's something with the Tegra drivers or something and can be fixed with an update.
Looking at the pics from my N7 I can definetly tell a difference the kids face is full of color and the blue is perfect and whites are white with no hues. Then looking at yours its terrible. Have you disabled the Nvidia smart dimmer? Because I have.
Picture of my nexus 7 screen.
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Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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Didn't you forget that it is suposed to be good?
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Looking at the pics from my N7 I can definetly tell a difference the kids face is full of color and the blue is perfect and whites are white with no hues. Then looking at yours its terrible. Have you disabled the Nvidia smart dimmer? Because I have.
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The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
TECK said:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
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Yup just like mine now I have a c7
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I have also received a nexus with the exact same issue! C80
Contrast/colors is very weak, and white seems overexposed in pics.
I hoped that I could live with it, since I got a tablet whith non of the other problems users are having.
Because of this thread, I have now requested a new one. So, I cross my fingers!
That dull screen did annoy me every time I used it...
(and I have lost respect to Asus, wtf! SOOO many having different hardware problems. Quite disturbing actually. A sad story for both Google and Asus.)
menkromsen said:
I have also received a nexus with the exact same issue! C80
Contrast/colors is very weak, and white seems overexposed in pics.
I hoped that I could live with it, since I got a tablet whith non of the other problems users are having.
Because of this thread, I have now requested a new one. So, I cross my fingers!
That dull screen did annoy me every time I used it...
(and I have lost respect to Asus, wtf! SOOO many having different hardware problems. Quite disturbing actually. A sad story for both Google and Asus.)
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Just got mine this morning from Carphone Warehouse in the UK, screen appears as others have noted grey and lacks saturation.C80 looks like I need to take mine back as well.
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You get what you pay for. Yeah its made my Asus and pure Google but its not a $500+ tablet so you can't expect it to be on par with those
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TECK said:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
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Damn it, TECK! Mine looks nothing close to that good. Don't think I can do much about it either as I have had it since launch.
I'm def disappointed in the colors of my screen. Looks very washed out to me. The clarity is there when I compare it to my gnex...even though it has the same resolution pictures look better on the 7.....I don't have any other issues so I guess I'll just deal with it
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Hello everybody!
I am now a proud owner of an HTC One and I absolutely love it.
Its an SH35BW903846 and, build quality wise, its almost perfect - 99% perfect. No gaps, no dents, not dead pixels, no light bleed and not even the pop/crackle. It's running the 1.29.401.16 software.
The only problem I have (I don't know yet if it is a problem), is with the camera in night time and very low light scenes.
My problem is that in night shots and very low light scenes, the camera turns the black into blue (or red in very very dark scenes). For example, I included some photos, on a dark street with only a few light posts it turns black areas into blurry blue. Yes, it lets in more light (and more natural looking light) than my old One X, but the black areas are blue.
Not to mention, some times it has trouble focusing so a few of the shots I attached were taken after 2-3 tries.
Even more, in very very dark scenarios - see the last picture - it turns the blackness into red.
Now, my questions:
Is this normal?
Has anyone else had this problem (is it a problem)?
Can someone post a night time picture taken with their one in similar scenario and without the "blue"?
I am a bit worried because if it is a flaw than i would have to return my almost perfect One... :crying:
If the information below or this thread have helped you in any way, hit the thanks button
UPDATED 13th of November: I took my phone into service again. This time they didn't replace my whole phone, but they did replace the camera module. They put in a camera from SHARP, sensor date 14 october 2013. The first tests I've done indicate that they've finally found a way/a sensor/a manufacturer to make the damned camera perform in low light like it supposed to... See a photo comparison of the new camera here.
UPDATED 14th of October: A comparison test after getting the 4.3 and Sense 5.5 Update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46781359&postcount=3099
UPDATED (2nd of October) - If you have the same problem, please fill in this Google form made by @gogogaga7 so we can have a centralized data base with information about the units that are flawed. The form is here: http://goo.gl/HmRJqC
UPDATED (5th of July) - I just got a replacement for my faulty unit and I just posted comparison photos in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43265994&postcount=89
Advice: If your camera gives you similar results with blue/red/purple noise in low-light photos -> take it back to HTC or an operator or repair service for a replacement!
UPDATED with Poll (13th of August) - Seeing how many replies and page views this thread has gathered during these couple of months, how many of you said they experience this problem and how HTC has not publicly recognized it (either as software or hardware fault), I added a Poll to see indeed how many of us are having this problem. Please vote!
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@VictorCozmei
Heya buddy! Yes this is the same as mine! I have been trying to create a discussion of this eversince and also found some users here with the same or worst than ours issue.
Apparently reducing the ISO solves the issue.
Anyways do you have access to other HTC One devices? Like demo on stores or relatives owning one? You could try by covering the camera lense with your hand. If it turns bright red then we must assume it's a normal behaviour of the camera. I can't really tell but I think this is happening because of the very aggressive sensitivity of light on our phones. I compared it with my previous phone and an ISO 100 on HTC One is equally similar to the ISO 400 of my previous phone.
Anyways if we can gather much feedback from users maybe we would know if this is a defect indeed(software/hardware) or just normal.
Also this should not be Chromatic aberration or at least similar to thos of the iphone 5 purple haze as it's like the opposite. CA and iphone purple haze is due to high contrast whilst ours is happening on low contrast areas.
^^^ @Riyal
Thanks for the reply. I thought for surely my post would go unnoticed and I'll be left alone with this potential problem even if there are loads of HTC One owners on the forum who can give a helping hand but just don't bother...
I don't have immediate access to another HTC One, but I will be following your advice and I will surely test them that way... Again, I sure hope this isn't a flaw in my phone. I would hate to take it back because it is so perfect in every other way :crying:
Just hope somebody else could join in the discussion and share their experience...
I notice a couple of interesting things when trying stuff out after reading your post:
If it's very dark (probably darker than what it was when you took the example pictures) the screen could be blue, red, or purple (a mix of blue and red noise upon closer inspection) depending on how much light I allowed back in.
If it's completely dark (put it down on a table), the screen is always red. This is actually pretty common among many sensors though.
Taking pictures with it at night in my living room with the tv on, the pictures are usually orange.
So it seems to me to be a property of the camera even when the camera is otherwise fine as I have noticed no other issues with mine. Thinking back to my old iPhone, I remember the pictures being blue just like your examples when it was dark. Maybe further evidence of it being normal?
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@Xerro-Five
Do you also experience the same issue as ours? I believe it's a miscalibration. Or probably an issue with image sense chipset of HTC. Did any of you guys already tried directly ask HTC about this issue?
Anyways could I ask you guys the build number of your phones?
@VictorCozmei
Considering that this phone should boast low light capabilities I think this is not a normal behavior. What we should do is ask directly HTC if this is solved through software or hardware. As far as I know not all people here experience this issue else we could seen alot more posts about this.
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I notice a couple of interesting things when trying stuff out after reading your post:
If it's very dark (probably darker than what it was when you took the example pictures) the screen could be blue, red, or purple (a mix of blue and red noise upon closer inspection) depending on how much light I allowed back in.
If it's completely dark (put it down on a table), the screen is always red. This is actually pretty common among many sensors though.
Taking pictures with it at night in my living room with the tv on, the pictures are usually orange.
So it seems to me to be a property of the camera even when the camera is otherwise fine as I have noticed no other issues with mine. Thinking back to my old iPhone, I remember the pictures being blue just like your examples when it was dark. Maybe further evidence of it being normal?
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@Xerro-Five
Do you also experience the same issue as ours? I believe it's a miscalibration. Or probably an issue with image sense chipset of HTC. Did any of you guys already tried directly ask HTC about this issue?
Anyways could I ask you guys the build number of your phones?
@VictorCozmei
Considering that this phone should boast low light capabilities I think this is not a normal behavior. What we should do is ask directly HTC if this is solved through software or hardware. As far as I know not all people here experience this issue else we could seen alot more posts about this.
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Well yeah, that's what I was getting at lol. Even right now for example it's dark and the blacks can turn blue and/or red. Again I don't think this is a problem but rather a normal behavior of image sensors (at least in my experience) so I haven't made any complaints or inquiries.
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Well yeah, that's what I was getting at lol. Even right now for example it's dark and the blacks can turn blue and/or red. Again I don't think this is a problem but rather a normal behavior of image sensors (at least in my experience) so I haven't made any complaints or inquiries.
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Check this post I made yesterday...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42413954&postcount=6926
Some users doesn't have that annoying red/blue tint on their devices even when covered.
Here's mine
And here's from another user
@Riyal
Mine doesn't get red when i cover the camera with my hand and take a picture (or if i put it on the table with the camera down). Its black, but at night time and in extremely very low light it goes to red... If it finds a little more light than the black areas get blue, blueish or purple... And it gets very hard to focus for a proper shot, even if i point it towards a light source like a lamp post.
I took a photo with my hand fully covering the camera and it turned out black. I compared it to the one posted on the other thread by the other user, the one who uploaded his black photo for you so you could see the exif data.
Compared, mine was taken with ISO 400, the other user's photo was ISO 2000 ... Mine had thew birghtness -2.163531, his was -4.48546
What does yours say?
Mine is also saying 2000 ISO and brightness(based on properties detail on windows 7) 4.28472
This only mean 1 thing... Our phone's sensor is either uncalibrated or is just way too aggressive in collecting light.
I can only recreate a pitch black result by covering the camera if my I manually set my ISO to 400 or 200. Setting it to 800, 1600 or Auto shows up the reddish tint.
I already contacted HTC about this and sent a sample screenshot. Now let's see what they can tell.
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What do you think this is? color temperature issue? Gain issue? I can modify these values in the kernel if someone can confirm me what might be the real issue is.
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@Riyal
Mine doesn't get red when i cover the camera with my hand and take a picture (or if i put it on the table with the camera down). Its black, but at night time and in extremely very low light it goes to red... If it finds a little more light than the black areas get blue, blueish or purple... And it gets very hard to focus for a proper shot, even if i point it towards a light source like a lamp post.
I took a photo with my hand fully covering the camera and it turned out black. I compared it to the one posted on the other thread by the other user, the one who uploaded his black photo for you so you could see the exif data.
Compared, mine was taken with ISO 400, the other user's photo was ISO 2000 ... Mine had thew birghtness -2.163531, his was -4.48546
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@Riyal
I tried again to take some shots with my hand closely covering the camera.... One picture was purple, the other one was red... In both ISO was 2000...
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@Riyal
I tried again to take some shots with my hand closely covering the camera.... One picture was purple, the other one was red... In both ISO was 2000...
-4.4 in brightness
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Well I guess all I could say is.... Welcome to the club! lol! Now with so many users having this issue I don't know if it's indeed an issue or not. Is this the downside of having 300% more light in a low pixel resolution camera?
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By the way I'm gonna go to our local telecom provider later since they have display units of HTC One here. I'll take a look and see if it also has the issue. Last time I checked it was a May build so it's a new batch.
*Hope it gets the same result to ease my mind*
I'm really gonna fret out if it's a hardware issue as I have to ship the device back to europe from asia just to get it fixed/replaced >.<
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Well I guess all I could say is.... Welcome to the club! lol! Now with so many users having this issue I don't know if it's indeed an issue or not. Is this the downside of having 300% more light in a low pixel resolution camera?
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I'm looking at the anandtech review and I don't see this problem in their night shots... For example, this picture ( http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/HTC/HTCOne/cameracomp/bench-HTC One.jpg ) was taken on full auto and it returned an ISO of 531 1/15s and all that was supposed to be black was black...
If I try something like that... I'll most certainly get an 1/7s and an ISO-2000...
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I'm looking at the anandtech review and I don't see this problem in their night shots... For example, this picture ( http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/HTC/HTCOne/cameracomp/bench-HTC One.jpg ) was taken on full auto and it returned an ISO of 531 1/15s and all that was supposed to be black was black...
If I try something like that... I'll most certainly get an 1/7s and an ISO-2000...
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I don't think so... Look at the light in the area it's way to evenly spread out for yours to become reddish believe me I have tried it. For the photo to become reddish you basically need to have a very limited light source(candle in a completely dark room) for the sides to become reddish.
+1 on the above stated issues. When I cover the lens, the image turns red because iso shoots up. However when I manually set the iso lower (say 100), then the image is just plain black.
I honestly do not think this is a defect of some kind but rather normal behaviour with high iso settings. But when someone can take a pitch black picture with the lens covered on iso 2000 than we will have a problem
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I don't think so... Look at the light in the area it's way to evenly spread out for yours to become reddish believe me I have tried it. For the photo to become reddish you basically need to have a very limited light source(candle in a completely dark room) for the sides to become reddish.
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I've tried taking photos in similar scenarios like the one on the anadtech site and my result was a photo with blue and purple-ish noise instead of the black that appears in their photos. All on auto on my device -> ISO 2000, 1/7s, blue instead of black areas
I was thinking the same as you before someone gave me this pitch black result.
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+1 on the above stated issues. When I cover the lens, the image turns red because iso shoots up. However when I manually set the iso lower (say 100), then the image is just plain black.
I honestly do not think this is a defect of some kind but rather normal behaviour with high iso settings. But when someone can take a pitch black picture with the lens covered on iso 2000 than we will have a problem
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I've tried taking photos in similar scenarios like the one on the anadtech site and my result was a photo with blue and purple-ish noise instead of the black that appears in their photos. All on auto on my device -> ISO 2000, 1/7s, blue instead of black areas
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I'm pretty sure I could get exactly the same results with my phone. Even just a single street light is enough to remove the reddish tint on the camera. However what I find odd is flourescent lights can't remove it.
@VictorCozmei @Floris2310 @Xerro-Five
Confirmed! We have a weird sensor on our devices. I manage to play with another HTC One in a store here in our place and it's indeed having perfect pitch black images
damn, bad news then. Probably a stupid question but did you check the ISO settings on the device?
There are two possible scenarios here:
1) We have a sensor which is acting weird/broken
2) There is something wrong with the ISO selection and it typically takes an ISO to high which causes the red image
I think (read: hope) the second option is more likely and the good news is that this would probably be a software rather than hardware issue.
Anyway, thanks @Riyal for checking this!
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This is horrible :crying: @#$%!
If this is truly confirmed and there are a number of One's out there with broken sensors, than I think this thread should be renamed so that all users know about this problem. Maybe some of them, looking to buy the One, can do the camera test before purchasing a faulty unit!
I just got my One and I'm falling in love with it and now I have to take it back and be without it... More over, the great HTC-partner service we have here doesn't not know the meaning of the word "replacement" and they will most surely try to open and fix it (oh the horror!!) ...
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@Riyal
This is horrible :crying: @#$%!
If this is truly confirmed and there are a number of One's out there with broken sensors, than I think this thread should be renamed so that all users know about this problem. Maybe some of them, looking to buy the One, can do the camera test before purchasing a faulty unit!
I just got my One and I'm falling in love with it and now I have to take it back and be without it... More over, the great HTC-partner service we have here doesn't not know the meaning of the word "replacement" and they will most surely try to open and fix it (oh the horror!!) ...
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I would wait a little longer before returning the device. The 4.2.2 update is just around the corner and I have read somewhere that there are some camera improvements. Perhaps the issue is fixed with the update. If it's a software problem that is.
Got my N6 today and as soon as I powered on, noticed that I can see what looks like a faint grid like pattern on the display, vertical lines. Most noticeable with brighter colors, like white, etc. It's very faint, but noticeable. Is this normal, everyone else have this?
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Got my N6 today and as soon as I powered on, noticed that I can see what looks like a faint grid like pattern on the display, vertical lines. Most noticeable with brighter colors, like white, etc. It's very faint, but noticeable. Is this normal, everyone else have this?
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Is it dots in a grid or lines?
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It's not dots, more like linear streaks. Most noticeable with brightness set below 30%/
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It's not dots, more like linear streaks. Most noticeable with brightness set below 30%/
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Hmm not too sure to be honest.. Id gve it a couple weeks and wait till more info on the n6 is available.
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It's not dots, more like linear streaks. Most noticeable with brightness set below 30%/
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I've noticed this on almost all phones I've had with Gorilla Glass.......something in the manufacture I think......normal as far as I know.
EDIT: NVM........duh......I forgot, that was the glass screen protectors. Maybe sensors??
It's not the glass, but the display itself... Used to be common with amoled displays, but that was a few years ago. From what I've been reading, the amoled panel used on Nexus 6 isn't exactly one of the best. I need to compare to a display model or something...
Sounds exactly like the digitizer too me, but I could be wrong. Haven't heard anyone else mention it. So either that or maybe u got a lemon? That's my best guess unfortunately
Nah, it's not the digitizer... Maybe I should explain better. It's not a straight grid, but rather a "plaid" design of very faint vertical and horizontal "streaks". It only shows up on certain colored backgrounds. You kind of have to look for it... More noticeable when brightness set to below 50% in a darker room. I dunno, maybe it's just the lesser quality amoled display panel they used on this. I think I really need to compare it with a display model maybe.
Is it that mura effect? If you go to an all black screen in a dark room do you see it?
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Lol, no... It's visible on light colored backgrounds.
it definitely sounds like amoled background texture.
it's just the nature of the beast. the pixels on amoled are not worn exactly at the same level and produce very minimal differences of light output from pixel to pixel. most people won't notice but it's there. as time gets by and pixels are worn more unevenly the effect because more pronounced. best way to check it out is putting a white background and play with brightness. at some levels, what should be totally white it has an inherent unchangeable pattern.
nexus 6 is not too bad but I guess it will get worse with time. watch out for burn in, it will happen. the note 4 is a next gen display and it's hard to see this effect at all.
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it definitely sounds like amoled background texture.
it's just the nature of the beast. the pixels on amoled are not worn exactly at the same level and produce very minimal differences of light output from pixel to pixel. most people won't notice but it's there. as time gets by and pixels are worn more unevenly the effect because more pronounced. best way to check it out is putting a white background and play with brightness. at some levels, what should be totally white it has an inherent unchangeable pattern.
nexus 6 is not too bad but I guess it will get worse with time. watch out for burn in, it will happen. the note 4 is a next gen display and it's hard to see this effect at all.
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Thanks, you nailed it. Do you see it on yours as well? The visibility definitely changes depending on the screen brightness and background color. With normal usage so far, I don't really notice it much, bit it's still there. Another way to describe it I guess is that it sort of looks like faint grayish "stains" on the back of the glass.
OK, set your brightness to around 50% and open up the Clock app... see anything? On mine, looks almost like someone took a wide paintbrush and dragged it down the screen, lots of dark vertical streaks. Anyone see that?
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OK, set your brightness to around 50% and open up the Clock app... see anything? On mine, looks almost like someone took a wide paintbrush and dragged it down the screen, lots of dark vertical streaks. Anyone see that?
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Do you think if you took a picture of the screen it would show up?
I'll try... Will have to do it with my tablet
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Thanks, you nailed it. Do you see it on yours as well? The visibility definitely changes depending on the screen brightness and background color. With normal usage so far, I don't really notice it much, bit it's still there. Another way to describe it I guess is that it sort of looks like faint grayish "stains" on the back of the glass.
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Yes, it's pretty obvious to me. I just noticed after two days of heavy use that burn-in has started right where the notification bar ends. Not very apparent but noticeable already after 48 hours of use. I can't imagine what this display would look like a year from now.... It's obvious Samsung if keeping their best AMOLEDs for themselves and this is 1-2 year old tech albeit with super high PPI. Between this super average display, average battery life but with premium price starting to think to sit this one out.
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Yes, it's pretty obvious to me. I just noticed after two days of heavy use that burn-in has started right where the notification bar ends. Not very apparent but noticeable already after 48 hours of use. I can't imagine what this display would look like a year from now.... It's obvious Samsung if keeping their best AMOLEDs for themselves and this is 1-2 year old tech albeit with super high PPI. Between this super average display, average battery life but with premium price starting to think to sit this one out.
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So you do have the N6? Are you thinking of sending it back? I might... after I compare to a display model at T-Mobile just to see. Here are some shots I took...The photos make it look worse than it actually is in person, but this is pretty much what I'm dealing with.
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So you do have the N6? Are you thinking of sending it back? I might... after I compare to a display model at T-Mobile just to see. Here are some shots I took...The photos make it look worse than it actually is in person, but this is pretty much what I'm dealing with.View attachment 3024612
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Yeah, the Nexus 6 is a bag of compromises. If it's your first Nexus device it will feel quite nice. I have a Nexus 5 and frankly, after Lollipop the Nexus 5 feels like new. Sure battery life sucks, but N6 is not that much better. I really like the screen of the Nexus 5, accurate colors and no burn-in problems.
The display of the Nexus 6 is a pain point for me. I'm trying of giving it a chance, but it's starting to feel like a let down.. Have you seen the display of the iPhone 6+ or the LG3? they are amazing LCD displays. Just more accurate colors and none of the AMOLED issues. I wish the N6 had one like that. I'd be sold if it did.
I really didn't like the display on the G3, lol. I do have a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and screen is amazing, blows away N6. The only thing holding me back on Note 4 right now is Touchwiz... such a shame they went with this display on the N6, it's otherwise super fast and Lollipop is great... but these lines already driving me nuts and hard to justify spending 650 on a phone with this screen. Ugh... compromise is right. Need to think on this one.
I'm getting concerned now. The description of a "faint grid like pattern on the display" sounds like what the galaxy nexus suffered from and it looks horrible at low brightness levels.
For me a screen with "issues" is a major turn off as for me the screen is the most important thing, and unfortunately it seems like the one used in the nexus 6 has too many compromises.
I just don't want another samsung device
I was so happy with the thought of a 6" amoled display with stero front facing speakers and stock android as the icing on the cake and now all this.
Initially I thought the nexus 6 display was just less bright than the note 4 which I could have lived with but as I do a lot of viewing in the dark at low brightness levels the graininess and grid like patterns with streaking etc will be too much for me
Hi all. Got my Google Play Nexus 6 today, overall awesome phone, but I was really dismayed to see that the phone has some faint horizontal and vertical banding. It is somewhat faint, and is really only noticeable against a grey or darker blue background (like the color of the quick settings pull down). There is also a degree of "graininess", also only visible against darker colored backgrounds. I'm just annoyed because this was originally a big problem with the first-gen OLED HD on my Galaxy Nexus, and here we are, at least 2 generations later and it's still a problem. Heck, my 2013 Moto X didn't have this issue, so why does my Nexus 6? Does anyone else have any graininess or banding against a grey/darker background? Should I bother RMA'ing this thing, or like the GNexus, is this issue widespread?
Thanks for your perspective, fellow Nexus 6 owners.
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I will try to take a few when I get home. It might be tough, since it's a subtle effect, but I'll definitely try. If you happened to own a Galaxy Nexus though, it's identical to the problem that plagued those displays.
I also just got my first phone call, and the earpiece volume at maximum is barely audible. Maybe I just have bad luck with Nexuses (Nexii?).
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Hi all. Got my Google Play Nexus 6 today, overall awesome phone, but I was really dismayed to see that the phone has some faint horizontal and vertical banding. It is somewhat faint, and is really only noticeable against a grey or darker blue background (like the color of the quick settings pull down). There is also a degree of "graininess", also only visible against darker colored backgrounds. I'm just annoyed because this was originally a big problem with the first-gen OLED HD on my Galaxy Nexus, and here we are, at least 2 generations later and it's still a problem. Heck, my 2013 Moto X didn't have this issue, so why does my Nexus 6? Does anyone else have any graininess or banding against a grey/darker background? Should I bother RMA'ing this thing, or like the GNexus, is this issue widespread?
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gnex guy here, so I know what you're talking about. I see very slight banding on dark gray backgrounds. I would have missed it if I didn't know what to look for.
I definitely see graininess on lighter backgrounds, and it's exacerbated at low brightness settings.
neither is enough to make me even consider an RMA though.
Gotcha. Hmm, maybe you're right... if it's common, maybe I should just deal. Do you also have a really quiet earpiece? That's my only other issue right now: even on max volume, i can barely hear the person on the other end of a call.
I'm also a former gnex user, still have it somewhere too lol. I remember making Verizon send me 2-3 replacements until I finally gave up and accepted the screen. I'm not noticing it on my N6. Only complaint I have about the screen is the yellow tint when looking directly at it.
I definitely see the same issue. The problem really is a pentile arrangement of the pixels. It has always been the case with AMOLED panels.
Mine has this as well its just how amoled pentile is...this is the one thing that disappointed me about the 6..wish they used super amoled or LCD instead.
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Mine has this as well its just how amoled pentile is...this is the one thing that disappointed me about the 6..wish they used super amoled or LCD instead.
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Samsung Super AMOLED panels are pentile as well.
I'm sorry to see that you guys are seeing this. Mine doesn't display these issues. My panel doesn't exhibit this behavior which is nice because I was worried about it.
The easiest test that I do for my panels is to kick Tapatalk into dark mode or open chrome and close all tabs so you're looking at a black screen with the white plus in the corner.
Must be an issue with the midnight blue models as my cloud white is damn near flawless.
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So lcd like n5 has backlight leak and n6 has banding. There is no perfect display.
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So lcd like n5 has backlight leak and n6 has banding. There is no perfect display.
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Yes, SAMOLED like the tab s line [emoji16]. That display is deadly. Drop dead gorgeous.
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Samsung Super AMOLED panels are pentile as well.....
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AFAIK Sammy hasn't used pentile on their flagships for a while. Their newer phones are all RGB.
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AFAIK Sammy hasn't used pentile on their flagships for a while. Their newer phones are all RGB.
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That's what I've been told as well.
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AFAIK Sammy hasn't used pentile on their flagships for a while. Their newer phones are all RGB.
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That's what I've been told as well.
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I believe the Note 4 uses a " Diamond Pentile Matrix"
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I believe the Note 4 uses a " Diamond Pentile Matrix"
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I believe thats a higher density arrangement, something the n6 could have used.
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That's what I've been told as well.
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AFAIK Sammy hasn't used pentile on their flagships for a while. Their newer phones are all RGB.
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They're all pentile... Note 3/4, GS4/5 all utilize pentile displays. As far as banding on those goes, I had to trade in 3 Note 3s to get one where I didn't notice it.
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It's because AMOLED screens are garbage and just plain suck. The Nexus 6 screen is much more better than the GNex though. I can tolerate it.
I definitely agree that it's tolerable. On my GNexus, any dark screen had noticeable banding on it. In this case, it is much more difficult to notice. I can deal if need be.
What about the earpiece volume? Does everyone's Nexus have very low earpiece volume? Speaker phone is very loud, but the actual earpiece is almost inaudible.
There seems to be an tracker open for this Issue: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=80817
I'd recommend that anyone affected star it.
This is mine at 1/3 Brightness (auto=off) using the Chrome no tabs page as a control background. I just opened a RMA with the play store. The dark areas are distinctly pink on a while background.
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So lcd like n5 has backlight leak and n6 has banding. There is no perfect display.
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Did you seriously comment this while discussing a $700 phone?!?!?!
For the author of the post: I as well see the vertical banding and does not matter what wallpaper is on, I can see it when scrolling my screens left and right. Best to see is dark gray - I placed the wallpaper that's of that solid color and boy am I now pissed... Paid $744 for what - another OPO $hi!?!? Called Google - they will respond within 24-48hrs... they better do something... plan to have the device replaced if they don't magically tell me how to get rid of the lines... if replacement is the same, so long Nexus - will get my money back!
I knew Motorola would screw something up, I just waited to see what exactly...